What I want for vehicles?

Lower Ammo Count

What's the point of having ammo if you have no need for re-supplying? Along with this, there should be an actual incentive to run an Ammunition module, and to skill into the Turret Ammunition skill.

As it stands, I rarely ever have to resupply; and on the rare occasion that I do; I simply recall my tank and call it back in for 100% ammo

However, Supply Depots need to be more prevalent on maps, and they need to be easily accessible by vehicles. And while we are at it, why not create a way to tell how much ammo your small turrets have?

Lowered Blaster Turret Range

When I'm in my Blaster tank, I can easily and reliably kill infantry from about 120m (I'm not too familiar with the metric system, so please forgive me if this is off). If AVers aren't allowed to fire at vehicles with near impunity, then neither should vehicle pilots.

No Hardener Stacking

I don't see how this was allowed in the first place. CCP's current Philosophy is "Waves of Opportunity." You shouldn't be allowed to have a never ending wave of opportunity, simply because your counter [AV] cannot extend their wave, nor make their wave indefinite.

Relevant AV Weapons

Swarm Launchers

Increase direct damage to 270HP per Swarm.

Increase lock range to 215m. However, since this is beyond rendering range I believe it would be fair if the vehicle pilot had an alarm system that alerts them if they are being locked onto beyond 175m. Countermeasures and Flares seems like a good idea as well.

Plasma Cannons

Increase Max Ammo count to 12.

Increase direct damage to: 1320/1650/1980. (STD/ADV/PRO)

It seems like a bit much, but it is a weapon that has a slow moving projectile, an arc, and only 1 round in the clip. It won't become overpowered against infantry like CCP fears simply because the only dropsuit that can survive a direct hit with an Allotek Plasma Cannon is a completely tanked out PRO heavy.

Proximity Explosives

Remove the alarm system. you can already look down to see the explosives, and the trap is completely static. Unlike Jihad Jeeps that can follow you, a Proximity Explosive trap requires someone to predict where you are. If you aren't piloting in a predictable pattern, then Proximity Explosives won't affect you.

Remote Explosives

Increase Max. Carried amount. The total amount you can have active should be the total amount you can carry, just like other pieces of equipment. Otherwise, the only dropsuit that can create a reliable RE trap is the logistics. (This also applies to Proximity Explosives)

Nerf Bolas

This AV weapon is ridiculously overpowered against Dropships as it can OHK them regardless of their fitting.. I say reduce it's direct damage to 200HP.

-HAND

No.

Can agree on some points but their solutions do not benefit both side mutually, only AVers.

Yes, I know that this topic has been discussed to death, revived, and then discussed to death many times over.

But

Yes, I know that this topic has been discussed to death, revived, and then discussed to death many times over. But since everyone has deposited their .02 ISK into the V/AV bank, I figured I might as well too.

Free from any parody or trolling:



PS: Yes I know that buffing SL damage can make Dropships underpowered. However, I high;y believe that flares & countermeasures will prevent that from happening.

Really?

I thought an alarm system, flares, and countermeasures benifited pilots as well.

Anything I should add in?

Perhaps, I missed the countermeasures.

Still I feel that's not consider future medium vehicles and their own lesser shield and armour values.

I would hope that MAV's would have a higher acceleration and top speed as well as better handling to compensate. I am not suggesting that they be faster/as fast as LAVs, but I do think that they should be closer in those regards to LAVs than HAVs.

Yes, I know that this topic has been discussed to death, revived, and then discussed to death many times over. But since everyone has deposited their .02 ISK into the V/AV bank, I figured I might as well too.

Free from any parody or trolling:



PS: Yes I know that buffing SL damage can make Dropships underpowered. However, I high;y believe that flares & countermeasures will prevent that from happening.

All of that seems reasonable to me.

I do however, still think that the Driver and Main Gunner should be separate seats in the HAV. Minimum two needed to be able to move and shoot simultaneously. The option for the two secondaries should remain. This would mean that you could run the HAV solo if you liked though you wouldn't be moving and shooting at the same time, if you brought a single friend, you can move and shoot and if you brought more than one friend, you'd have a better chance of killing any infantry resistance.

Yes.

Broken

I'm for limiting hardeners to one per vehicle, and I've suggested that myself. But in return, hardeners need to resist more. 80% and 60% for shields and armor respectively.

I should be nigh unkillable while my hardener is up. It should take multiple AV users focusing all the DPs they can muster to break through my hardener.

But when that hardener turns off, I better have killed all the AV, or have infantry support, because I should be relatively easy pickings for one AV person.

Thoughts? Concerns?

Anyone?

Agreed, but their lower HP values will cause them to suffer if AV receive direct buffs to damage models.

This is what most QQing AVers don't consider.

As it see it

LAV- Light Scout, Anti Infantry Small Turrets. Low ISK, Low SP

MAV- Infantry Support, the link between infantry and vehicles. Meduim Turrets, or Utility Vehicles. Medium ISK, Medium SP

HAV- Vehicle busting, durable, but slow, requires multiple gunner to have anti infantry capacity. High ISK, HIgh SP

NO

Yes, I know that this topic has been discussed to death, revived, and then discussed to death many times over. But since everyone has deposited their .02 ISK into the V/AV bank, I figured I might as well too.

Free from any parody or trolling:



PS: Yes I know that buffing SL damage can make Dropships underpowered. However, I high;y believe that flares & countermeasures will prevent that from happening.

I'm for limiting hardeners to one per vehicle, and I've suggested that myself. But in return, hardeners need to resist more. 80% and 60% for shields and armor respectively.

I should be nigh unkillable while my hardener is up. It should take multiple AV users focusing all the DPs they can muster to break through my hardener.

But when that hardener turns off, I better have killed all the AV, or have infantry support, because I should be relatively easy pickings for one AV person.

I did not fix.