What I want for vehicles?

Lower Ammo Count

What's the point of having ammo if you have no need for re-supplying? Along with this, there should be an actual incentive to run an Ammunition module, and to skill into the Turret Ammunition skill.

As it stands, I rarely ever have to resupply; and on the rare occasion that I do; I simply recall my tank and call it back in for 100% ammo

However, Supply Depots need to be more prevalent on maps, and they need to be easily accessible by vehicles. And while we are at it, why not create a way to tell how much ammo your small turrets have?

Lowered Blaster Turret Range

When I'm in my Blaster tank, I can easily and reliably kill infantry from about 120m (I'm not too familiar with the metric system, so please forgive me if this is off). If AVers aren't allowed to fire at vehicles with near impunity, then neither should vehicle pilots.

No Hardener Stacking

I don't see how this was allowed in the first place. CCP's current Philosophy is "Waves of Opportunity." You shouldn't be allowed to have a never ending wave of opportunity, simply because your counter [AV] cannot extend their wave, nor make their wave indefinite.

Relevant AV Weapons

Swarm Launchers

Increase direct damage to 270HP per Swarm.

Increase lock range to 215m. However, since this is beyond rendering range I believe it would be fair if the vehicle pilot had an alarm system that alerts them if they are being locked onto beyond 175m. Countermeasures and Flares seems like a good idea as well.

Plasma Cannons

Increase Max Ammo count to 12.

Increase direct damage to: 1320/1650/1980. (STD/ADV/PRO)

It seems like a bit much, but it is a weapon that has a slow moving projectile, an arc, and only 1 round in the clip. It won't become overpowered against infantry like CCP fears simply because the only dropsuit that can survive a direct hit with an Allotek Plasma Cannon is a completely tanked out PRO heavy.

Proximity Explosives

Remove the alarm system. you can already look down to see the explosives, and the trap is completely static. Unlike Jihad Jeeps that can follow you, a Proximity Explosive trap requires someone to predict where you are. If you aren't piloting in a predictable pattern, then Proximity Explosives won't affect you.

Remote Explosives

Increase Max. Carried amount. The total amount you can have active should be the total amount you can carry, just like other pieces of equipment. Otherwise, the only dropsuit that can create a reliable RE trap is the logistics. (This also applies to Proximity Explosives)

Nerf Bolas

This AV weapon is ridiculously overpowered against Dropships as it can OHK them regardless of their fitting.. I say reduce it's direct damage to 200HP.

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No.

Can agree on some points but their solutions do not benefit both side mutually, only AVers.

I'm for limiting hardeners to one per vehicle, and I've suggested that myself. But in return, hardeners need to resist more. 80% and 60% for shields and armor respectively.

I should be nigh unkillable while my hardener is up. It should take multiple AV users focusing all the DPs they can muster to break through my hardener.

But when that hardener turns off, I better have killed all the AV, or have infantry support, because I should be relatively easy pickings for one AV person.

Agreed, but their lower HP values will cause them to suffer if AV receive direct buffs to damage models.

This is what most QQing AVers don't consider.

As it see it

LAV- Light Scout, Anti Infantry Small Turrets. Low ISK, Low SP

MAV- Infantry Support, the link between infantry and vehicles. Medium Turrets, or Utility Vehicles. Medium ISK, Medium SP

HAV- Vehicle busting, durable, but slow, requires multiple gunner to have anti infantry capacity. High ISK, HIgh SP

I haven't read most of the posts in this thread, but I'll comment in the familiar areas.

PLC ammo capacity is fine. Proposed direct damage increase seems a bit high considering splash, too. Would rather see 1000/1250/1500, or 1000,1375,1750 max. It won't be OP, but I don't think it's right just to buff direct damage and have splash be completely not proportional.

Wasn't aware of the alarm system; still manage to kill tanks with them. I'm seeing a large number of maps where it's hard/not possible to see the PEs, especially the night maps. PEs hurt the most when a person doesn't expect them. Even in predictible patterns, PEs can be placed unpredictably.

REs are fine. They're not just AV; there's also AI to consider. You sorta made me giggle when you said Logis were the only ones who can create a reliable RE trap.

Then CCP needs to set AV damage models permanently. And balance vehicles properly around them.

What I fear from direct AV buffs is not anything regarding my HAV, but regarding how the current, and new, smaller frame vehicles will be able to operate, and be balanced.

That and logically speaking for every AV buff you must scale up the large blaster damage models, as it makes no sense for smaller weapon to do more damage than large vehicle mounter counter parts....

Oh and down with the Large Blaster!

lol, why you idiots keep on asking for more tiers? That would further break the system. It's bad to go deeper in a hole; it's better to dig yourself out.

another clich+¬, low quality like farm thread, courtesy of atiim

ccp will do what they will, reposting ideas with your signature on them is a waste of time

id rather see plc get 2rnds per clip. The damage buff to swarm is a bit much, instead I'd like to see a return of the dumb fire. I,m ok with REs the way they are but PEs do need some love.

I disagree that Proximity Explosives should have no early detection. Beeping should stay. It creates a duality between the Proximity and Remotes. One is leave and forget while the other has to be paid attention to. The beeping only happens at a fairly close range and when going at near full speed you cannot stop in time.

I disagree with Remotes being able to have more active. Equipment doesn't work that way. I can carry a Nanohive that has 2 uses but only 1 can be active. Ditto for Uplinks.

I liked that other short and sweet thread: choose 2 of 3: 1) speed 2) armor 3) damage but you can't have all 3. this woulda fixed tanks pretty good.

I also had this old idea that different turrets should be good at different things e.g. missiles are good against infantry and not much else, blasters are good against tanks and installations and have a high turret turning rate but have a very short range, and rails are good at hitting DS and can deal weak damage to armor and installations but have a very slow turret turning rate.