DUST Search - when will DUST be launching?

Avallo Kantor wrote:

Cmdr Wolfe wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

I played BF4, admittedly the ****** version on the PS3 last night for the first time, having rented it out to see what all the fuss is about, and I have to admit its a pretty cool game......

But it lacks depth.

Its mechanics are great.....I was shocked to find that guns have recoil in BF4.....admittedly 12 months of Dust after BF3 really thew me for a loop.....

But it lacks meaning and depth. My deaths mean nothing but a 3 second delay and another LMG rampage begins.

Dust 514 has "something" other FPS don't and that's meaning and context......even if it lacks LMG.....

So to CCP I say "PLEASE I BEG YOU.......GIMME AND LMG AND I LUFF YOU 4 LYFE".... that or my Amarr HAV.

i sh it you not i thought this aswell^^

but then i played the single player campaign and all my thoughts were squashed through pure awsomeness!

This is likely where I have a strong opinion to the contrary here.

Single player campaigns in CoD / BF games are some of the worst things to happen in gaming as far as I am concerned.

It is nothing but narrow-linear paths with fancy window-dressings and set pieces (generally ones that get blown up) it has no depth, a shallow story that becomes stupider and stupider the more one examines it, and is full of nothing but mini-games and dull shooting sections.

I feel that the single-player campaign is often the worst part of most modern FPS games, and the lack of one is, in my opinion, nothing but a positive for games like DUST 514, Titanfall, and other FPS games that discard the 4-12 hour long eyecandy tour.

For me the "awesome" moments in a game come by skill not by narrative contrivance. I feel far more like a bad ass when I do something awesome in a multiplayer match (such as head shotting a driver on a LAV as it tries to run me over) than when the narrative dictates. (such as single-hadedly using a mini-gun to mow down a charging army)

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Cmdr Wolfe Carbon 7 CRONOS. 18	Posted - 2014.02.16 23:03:00 - [1] - Quote a simple question for a simple player because after spending some time playing this game it is clear that it is still in BETA and isnt ready for release.. so when is offical release? also from what iv heard through other players, is that it has been this way for quite some time.. with very slow progress and CCP failing to meet targets. if this is true why are you guys still playing? like come on i know its addictive right but their are fully lauched better FPS's you could be playing right now lol.. i apologize if i come across as another butthurt newbie but i just dont see the potential of this game on a DATED engine and a last generation console :/ forgive my logical conclusion someone please correct me or enlighten me?
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 337	Posted - 2014.02.16 23:04:00 - [2] - Quote around 2016 Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you.
Tau Lai Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 46	Posted - 2014.02.16 23:05:00 - [3] - Quote Closed in 3, 2, 1...
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4722	Posted - 2014.02.16 23:05:00 - [4] - Quote Officially? That already happened. Theoretically? 1.8 When all of the missing drop-suits and sidearms are added. Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 9623	Posted - 2014.02.16 23:07:00 - [5] - Quote D'aww. Just a few days, and you're already a bittervet. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
Cmdr Wolfe Carbon 7 CRONOS. 18	Posted - 2014.02.16 23:12:00 - [6] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: D'aww. Just a few days, and you're already a bittervet. im just going off my experience so far bud.. fair play to you for staying with dust this long, i dont know how you did it? iv come from battlefield so its the only thing i can relate to and well... im shocked lol was fun first couple games but there is nothing else to do on this game apart from get "protostomped" or help other corps "protostomp" i like the orbital asspects of the game however
Kovinis Sparagas Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 141	Posted - 2014.02.16 23:22:00 - [7] - Quote Atiim wrote: Officially? That already happened. Theoretically? 1.8 When all of the missing drop-suits and sidearms are added. We still don't have all vehicles I support BPO removal; RDV to take your vehicles back; and racial weapons on starter fits
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 9625	Posted - 2014.02.16 23:29:00 - [8] - Quote Cmdr Wolfe wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: D'aww. Just a few days, and you're already a bittervet. im just going off my experience so far bud.. fair play to you for staying with dust this long, i dont know how you did it? It's the people, really. And having been here so long, I'm a little reluctant to go. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
Adelia Lafayette Science For Death 682	Posted - 2014.02.16 23:33:00 - [9] - Quote there is a lot of speculation at big reveals happening at fanfest. I know if I'm disappointed or even 1% think an announcement they make at fanfest is another false promise I'll likely be out. I'm also looking forward and not looking forward to 1.8. a bunch of new stuff that might be fun but then I won't know the new fotm and how to counter it. As to the original post. Yup still beta quality game. I have heard rumors that they released it early to get loose from any contracts that hinged on their release date but who knows. Assault dropship gets blown up.... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "Kitten this I'm out"... ..."I'm back"
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7135	Posted - 2014.02.16 23:42:00 - [10] - Quote I played BF4, admittedly the ****** version on the PS3 last night for the first time, having rented it out to see what all the fuss is about, and I have to admit its a pretty cool game...... But it lacks depth. Its mechanics are great.....I was shocked to find that guns have recoil in BF4.....admittedly 12 months of Dust after BF3 really thew me for a loop..... But it lacks meaning and depth. My deaths mean nothing but a 3 second delay and another LMG rampage begins. Dust 514 has "something" other FPS don't and that's meaning and context......even if it lacks LMG..... So to CCP I say "PLEASE I BEG YOU.......GIMME AND LMG AND I LUFF YOU 4 LYFE".... that or my Amarr HAV. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha

Cmdr Wolfe Carbon 7 CRONOS. 18	Posted - 2014.02.16 23:45:00 - [11] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I played BF4, admittedly the ****** version on the PS3 last night for the first time, having rented it out to see what all the fuss is about, and I have to admit its a pretty cool game...... But it lacks depth. Its mechanics are great.....I was shocked to find that guns have recoil in BF4.....admittedly 12 months of Dust after BF3 really thew me for a loop..... But it lacks meaning and depth. My deaths mean nothing but a 3 second delay and another LMG rampage begins. Dust 514 has "something" other FPS don't and that's meaning and context......even if it lacks LMG..... So to CCP I say "PLEASE I BEG YOU.......GIMME AND LMG AND I LUFF YOU 4 LYFE".... that or my Amarr HAV. i sh it you not i thought this aswell^^ but then i played the single player campaign and all my thoughts were squashed through pure awsomeness!
Squagga The State Protectorate 235	Posted - 2014.02.16 23:50:00 - [12] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I played BF4, admittedly the ****** version on the PS3 last night for the first time, having rented it out to see what all the fuss is about, and I have to admit its a pretty cool game...... But it lacks depth. Its mechanics are great.....I was shocked to find that guns have recoil in BF4.....admittedly 12 months of Dust after BF3 really thew me for a loop..... But it lacks meaning and depth. My deaths mean nothing but a 3 second delay and another LMG rampage begins. Dust 514 has "something" other FPS don't and that's meaning and context......even if it lacks LMG..... So to CCP I say "PLEASE I BEG YOU.......GIMME AND LMG AND I LUFF YOU 4 LYFE".... that or my Amarr HAV. I more or less agree with this. I think the reason I stay beside my frustrations is because of time invested. Also nothing else I want to play right now. I am pretty excited over the new vehicles. Maybe that's the big surprise their gonna bring out at fan fest? Min Am HAV and dropships? Reloading, the silent killer.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1273	Posted - 2014.02.17 01:02:00 - [13] - Quote Cmdr Wolfe wrote: a simple question for a simple player because after spending some time playing this game it is clear that it is still in BETA and isnt ready for release.. so when is offical release? also from what iv heard through other players, is that it has been this way for quite some time.. with very slow progress and CCP failing to meet targets. if this is true why are you guys still playing? like come on i know its addictive right but their are fully lauched better FPS's you could be playing right now lol.. i apologize if i come across as another butthurt newbie but i just dont see the potential of this game on a DATED engine and a last generation console :/ forgive my logical conclusion someone please correct me or enlighten me? why am I still here? waiting for June . INCOMEING!!! PS4 games warframe, The Division, Deep Down, Metal Gear, The Witcher 3, Borderlands 3, blacklight, Planetside 2, Destiny, and Fallout 4, and close to 100 PS4 games . Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2566	Posted - 2014.02.17 01:31:00 - [14] - Quote Because first gen consoles are the worst ones they'll build, only to have seriously ****** launch titles to accompany them. I GÖú Kittens.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1249	Posted - 2014.02.17 01:48:00 - [15] - Quote Cmdr Wolfe wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: D'aww. Just a few days, and you're already a bittervet. im just going off my experience so far bud.. fair play to you for staying with dust this long, i dont know how you did it? iv come from battlefield so its the only thing i can relate to and well... im shocked lol was fun first couple games but there is nothing else to do on this game apart from get "protostomped" or help other corps "protostomp" i like the orbital asspects of the game however the difference is battlefield will release a sequel, and dust will just continue to add content. it's only those that stick out the hard times that control the future.
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 507	Posted - 2014.02.17 01:58:00 - [16] - Quote it's not beta technically,and more like they released a game half baked game and are slowing filling it in,it's more like early access. A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Avallo Kantor Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 321	Posted - 2014.02.17 01:58:00 - [17] - Quote Cmdr Wolfe wrote: True Adamance wrote: I played BF4, admittedly the ****** version on the PS3 last night for the first time, having rented it out to see what all the fuss is about, and I have to admit its a pretty cool game...... But it lacks depth. Its mechanics are great.....I was shocked to find that guns have recoil in BF4.....admittedly 12 months of Dust after BF3 really thew me for a loop..... But it lacks meaning and depth. My deaths mean nothing but a 3 second delay and another LMG rampage begins. Dust 514 has "something" other FPS don't and that's meaning and context......even if it lacks LMG..... So to CCP I say "PLEASE I BEG YOU.......GIMME AND LMG AND I LUFF YOU 4 LYFE".... that or my Amarr HAV. i sh it you not i thought this aswell^^ but then i played the single player campaign and all my thoughts were squashed through pure awsomeness! This is likely where I have a strong opinion to the contrary here. Single player campaigns in CoD / BF games are some of the worst things to happen in gaming as far as I am concerned. It is nothing but narrow-linear paths with fancy window-dressings and set pieces (generally ones that get blown up) it has no depth, a shallow story that becomes stupider and stupider the more one examines it, and is full of nothing but mini-games and dull shooting sections. I feel that the single-player campaign is often the worst part of most modern FPS games, and the lack of one is, in my opinion, nothing but a positive for games like DUST 514, Titanfall, and other FPS games that discard the 4-12 hour long eyecandy tour. For me the "awesome" moments in a game come by skill not by narrative contrivance. I feel far more like a bad ass when I do something awesome in a multiplayer match (such as head shotting a driver on a LAV as it tries to run me over) than when the narrative dictates. (such as single-hadedly using a mini-gun to mow down a charging army)
Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 718	Posted - 2014.02.17 02:50:00 - [18] - Quote Avallo Kantor wrote: Cmdr Wolfe wrote: True Adamance wrote: I played BF4, admittedly the ****** version on the PS3 last night for the first time, having rented it out to see what all the fuss is about, and I have to admit its a pretty cool game...... But it lacks depth. Its mechanics are great.....I was shocked to find that guns have recoil in BF4.....admittedly 12 months of Dust after BF3 really thew me for a loop..... But it lacks meaning and depth. My deaths mean nothing but a 3 second delay and another LMG rampage begins. Dust 514 has "something" other FPS don't and that's meaning and context......even if it lacks LMG..... So to CCP I say "PLEASE I BEG YOU.......GIMME AND LMG AND I LUFF YOU 4 LYFE".... that or my Amarr HAV. i sh it you not i thought this aswell^^ but then i played the single player campaign and all my thoughts were squashed through pure awsomeness! This is likely where I have a strong opinion to the contrary here. Single player campaigns in CoD / BF games are some of the worst things to happen in gaming as far as I am concerned. It is nothing but narrow-linear paths with fancy window-dressings and set pieces (generally ones that get blown up) it has no depth, a shallow story that becomes stupider and stupider the more one examines it, and is full of nothing but mini-games and dull shooting sections. I feel that the single-player campaign is often the worst part of most modern FPS games, and the lack of one is, in my opinion, nothing but a positive for games like DUST 514, Titanfall, and other FPS games that discard the 4-12 hour long eyecandy tour. For me the "awesome" moments in a game come by skill not by narrative contrivance. I feel far more like a bad ass when I do something awesome in a multiplayer match (such as head shotting a driver on a LAV as it tries to run me over) than when the narrative dictates. (such as single-hadedly using a mini-gun to mow down a charging army) I agree entirely. My one exception is Borderlands and Borderlands 2- those singleplayer/co-op campaigns are the bee's knees, in no small part due to their hilarious nature.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1587	Posted - 2014.02.17 02:58:00 - [19] - Quote Atiim wrote: Officially? That already happened. Theoretically? 1.8 When all of the missing drop-suits and sidearms are added. I would say we are ready for launch when: We have the full racial line ups of suits, weapons and vehicles. Tank514 has been addressed(i vote for web grenades and stacking penalties on hardener duty cycles). We've had our second balancing pass on everything. We've rationalized the skill tree with racial & role bonuses. We've addressed the issue of dead skill paths like the standard suit frames. We've addressed the sp sink 'gate' skills. We have core FPS mechanics that won't generate another wave of awful reviews. Perhaps we should raise the bar and demand good reviews for DUST's FPS mechanics ^^ Voicecomms work as intended and have at least MAG functionality and incorporate EVE-side support. We have EVE-level corp tools for DUST corps. We have team deploy and team leader tools. We have a training mode/firing range. Matchmaking works well enough to provide a positive player experience. There are no acceptable excuses here. Faction Warfare match generation and rewards are working and providing a good player experience. Lag is addressed such that all modes are playable. Lookin' at you, PC. The PC ISK faucet is addressed. The Genolution game-destroying clone pack is replaced by a mechanic that respects jump gate topology. We have PVE.(Ideally driven by Planetary Conquest PVP such that the PVP corps need the PVE corps). We have a full internal DUST market, with forward-looking design made for flawless mechanical integration with the EVE market. Balancing the economies is another story. We have a full internal DUST contract system for goods and services, again designed for perfect integration with EVE's contract system. Gonna need significant EVE-side devtime investment for this one to support DUST PVE/PVP contracts. NewEdenMail that works flawlessly across both games(and Valkyrie when it comes), feature-rich enough to handle co-ordinated fleet/terrestrial mega-OPS. That's the bare-bones list - kept it as short as possible so as not to push back launch day too far but included enough that it should get DUST good reviews, say 75 on Metacritic. There's a lot more i'd like to see(like strategic resource warfare, the entire raison d'+¬tre for DUST), but this is prolly enough to provide a positive player experience and allow DUST mercs to keep themselves entertained while higher-level integration happens. I support SP rollover.
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 942	Posted - 2014.02.17 03:07:00 - [20] - Quote It's the depth that keeps me engaged. This game has improved immensely since 1.0, and will continue to do so. I've been taking a break for the past couple weeks, but 1.8 should be here in March and will bring a lot of new and interesting content. I'm really looking forward to what the next 6 months bring. Deaths have meaning, choices have consequences and combat is more fun and interesting as a result. When you do have a good match (which admittedly too rare) DUST is more fun than any other FPS out there. The skill system is excellent, rewards long term growth, and the suit customizability is really awesome too. DUST gives you freedom to play how you want, and that's pretty damn cool. Best PvE idea ever!

Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 301	Posted - 2014.02.17 03:08:00 - [21] - Quote You should have seen what Eve looked like in 2004 (when I started). Dust will grow through the years. I haven't done much in Eve since I've been spending so much time capping out in Dust, but some time I'll figure out how to make time for both games. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1239	Posted - 2014.02.17 03:09:00 - [22] - Quote As soon as it gets balanced, everything in the game aaaaaanndddGÇª is ported to the PC. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 733	Posted - 2014.02.17 03:09:00 - [23] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: D'aww. Just a few days, and you're already a bittervet. they get that course after reaching 1200wp. Who wants some?
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 305	Posted - 2014.02.17 03:12:00 - [24] - Quote Atiim wrote: Officially? That already happened. Theoretically? 1.8 When all of the missing drop-suits and sidearms are added. The missing heavies and vehicles aren't required? And [i[some[/i] of the racial sidearms are being added. Not all. Gallente and Amarr will still need another. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 305	Posted - 2014.02.17 03:14:00 - [25] - Quote Luk Manag wrote: You should have seen what Eve looked like in 2004 (when I started). Dust will grow through the years. I haven't done much in Eve since I've been spending so much time capping out in Dust, but some time I'll figure out how to make time for both games. EVE was developed by a new company with no experience. DUST was developed by a company with 10 years of experience with one of the most successful MMOs ever. "You should have seen what Eve looked like" is an excuse, and an excuse that doesn't fly. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1158	Posted - 2014.02.17 03:20:00 - [26] - Quote Atiim wrote: Officially? That already happened. Theoretically? 1.8 When all of the missing drop-suits and sidearms are added. You mean when there is still no PvE, lack of militia items, terrible starter fits, loads of glitches, missing racial vehicles, horrible balancing, and loads of other things I can't recall at the moment? I'd say, it'll be ready for release after the build that's coming after Uprising. I might even go as far to say the one directly after Uprising if it's good.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 469	Posted - 2014.02.17 03:22:00 - [27] - Quote Wow, that was quick! From noob to bitter vet, in, what, a week? :)
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 896	Posted - 2014.02.17 03:22:00 - [28] - Quote da GAND wrote: around 2016 Get ready for the OLYMPICS!!! *Assassination is my thing.*
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 2171	Posted - 2014.02.17 03:23:00 - [29] - Quote Adelia Lafayette wrote: there is a lot of speculation at big reveals happening at fanfest. . fanfest is where they said PVE by 2012 and all dropsuits by 2013, including giant robot mechs 100% confirmed. everything they said at fanfest is BS.
crazy space 2100046106 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 2172	Posted - 2014.02.17 03:23:00 - [30] - Quote Adelia Lafayette wrote: there is a lot of speculation at big reveals happening at fanfest. . fanfest is where they said PVE by 2012 and all dropsuits by 2013, including giant robot mechs 100% confirmed. everything they said at fanfest is BS.



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