After all the posts and threads this is generally what infantry wants for vehicles

Does infantry want to limit the number of mods we can use on our vehicles? Yes - Great idea now LAV and DS suffer greatly from it, if its just on 1 particular vehicle like a HAV then why so biased? do you see vehicle pilots say 'that you cant have more than 1 dmg mod on your suit'? no you dont, back in the day i knew players who used 5 complex damage mods with there swarms, sure it pissed me off but i didnt say limit the mods. On my proto basic heavy i use 2 complex dmg mods with my FG - Even with hardeners its the pilots choice, we dont tell infantry that you cant run 4 plates on your suit or 3 extenders or 4 hacking modules etc, im sure infantry wouldnt be too fussed if we ran 3 extenders or plates on our vehicles but anything useful is a no-no

this will do nothing but make them obsolete again move along, there was a time they tried similar approach
but comprehension of the past seems to be failing you....

i will say it again one man HAV will never be balanced towards infantry and will always be just a better drop suit
what would be the point playing infantry game then?
just get the best drop suit in game aka HAV and nothing else as it is now...

After all the posts and threads this is generally what infantry wants for vehicles

Does infantry want to limit the number of vehicles in game? Yes - Great whoever spawns in 1st can bring in vehicles, problem is the 1 guy who has 20mil SP into it and uses vehicles in every game because its what they do but can no longer play and is FORCED to use mlt infantry crap even tho he doesnt want to while they wait for one of the vehicles to die but by the time that happens the pub game is a redline - Would you like it if we limit the number of suits so they can only be 2 assaults/2 logi/2 heavys and 5 scouts/commandos in each 16man team? tough **** if you main as an assault you may be FORCED to play as scout

Does infantry want vehicles to be slower? Yes - 'HAVs are too fast, they faster than my LAV' they say lying through there teeth - HAV is not faster than a LAV - Also AV likes to stay still and not move around, if more AV moved around chased a vehicle around they would kill it - Whats to say we wont get some kind of webifier tool added to the game?

Does infantry want blasters nerfed? Yes - Problem how does the pilot protect themself from AV players? 'Use small turrets' infantry says - Problem is that small turrets do not have the range to shoot 300m away let alone 150m and if they did have the range then infantry would still cry even tho that tank had small turrets

Does infantry want vehicles to be more expensive? Yes - 'Vehicles are too cheap' They say - 1.0-1.6 they were fine with killing 2mil+ vehicles with 20k worth of AV nades but now the shoe is on the other foot they dont like it - My proto AV fit costs me 150k or there abouts, a mlt tank 70k, my basic cheapo tank 200k and my proto 500-700k with std hull but a dead tank is priceless - Add in adv/proto hull and the price will rise anyway

After all the posts and threads this is generally what infantry wants for vehicles

Does infantry want to limit the modes that vehicles can be used in? Yes - So vehicles are no longer in x mode, would that stop infantry from trying to get them removed or limited in other modes? No - So then we end up where only 3 ppl can use what they skilled into so it begins fastest player to spawn in wins while the sand is being thrown out of the box and it becomes infantry514 again - Would you like it if we limit the modes you can use a dropsuit in?

Some do they are fools, Ambush is pointless game mode anyway, it would be better to remove ambush altogether.

Does infantry want a 1:1 ratio? Yes - By this i mean 'If its 1 to use the vehicle then its 1 AV to destroy it' - Problem is if i have 3 in my tank will it take 3 AV to destroy it? Currently i can put 3 in my tank now but i dont get an increase in HP/CPU/PG/Resistance only increase is damage that is if the target is in the range of the small turrets and right now 2 AV can kill my vehicle with 3 ppl in it - That isnt 1:1 ratio
If you have 3 people in a tank you have 3 times the firepower, which makes it easier to kill upto 3 times faster. 1 person can kill 3people in a row can't they?

Therein balance is restored, also if you wanted having 3 people in pilot suits would provide additonal beniftis to your tank?

Does infantry want vehicles to be slower? Yes - 'HAVs are too fast, they faster than my LAV' they say lying through there teeth - HAV is not faster than a LAV - Also AV likes to stay still and not move around, if more AV moved around chased a vehicle around they would kill it - Whats to say we wont get some kind of webifier tool added to the game?
It's a Tank, it's going to be relatively slow, when we say they are too fast, we are talking acceleration and turning, tanks are too mobile.

Does infantry want blasters nerfed? Yes - Problem how does the pilot protect themself from AV players? 'Use small turrets' infantry says - Problem is that small turrets do not have the range to shoot 300m away let alone 150m and if they did have the range then infantry would still cry even tho that tank had small turrets

We don't want them nerfed to oblivion but if swarms can only reach a 150m then shouldn't it make sense you should have to be within our rangeto attack us, also TTK is incredibly low for blasters.

Does infantry want pilots to use small turrets? Yes - 'Teamwork' they say while most bluedots refuse to get out to do anything while spamming ammo at the MCC and not getting out to hack a objective - Most dont use small turrets because we cannot lock the doors and kick out bluedots who enter and frankly after having to deal with terrible terrible bluedots most will not use them again until we get locks because you are useless and a liability
SOME, they are fools

Does infantry want vehicles to be more expensive? Yes - 'Vehicles are too cheap' They say - 1.0-1.6 they were fine with killing 2mil+ vehicles with 20k worth of AV nades but now the shoe is on the other foot they dont like it - My proto AV fit costs me 150k or there abouts, a mlt tank 70k, my basic cheapo tank 200k and my proto 500-700k with std hull but a dead tank is priceless - Add in adv/proto hull and the price will rise anyway
No SOME, they are fools

Did infantry ask for ammo counts? Yea - They still not happy tho
I wonder why we aren't happy when, blasters get nearly 250 per mag and reload in seconds. We wanted maybe 70-90 on a blaster and 5 on rail. Also it's not like you have to use supply depot's

Does infantry want vehicles to be removed? Id mostly say yea they do, maybe keep in a BPO LAV for everyone
SOME, they are fools

Turns out the majority havnt stepped in a tank until it starting killing there infantry suit and actually being effective
AND? prehaps the fact so many people are using it, as a FOTM is testemant to it being overpowerd.

artificial limits will do nothing in this game
the thing is people with SSDs will always be logged first into the map thus preventing others to play any vehicle at all...

How would not being able to snipe infantry at 200+ meters out with a blaster make them obsolete? How would making a tanker not be able to just run away at the last second make them obsolete? How would making it dangerous to just haul ass away at the last second make them obsolete? Forcing a tanker to hand over the controls of either their gun or movement would make them obsolete because nobody would be willing to do that.

i don't want a limit on vehicles i think it could be achieved more in a sandbox way...

Tanks are to much of a force multiplier it will always be the case if a singular mercenary can get into a mechanized unit that can regenerate to full strength infinitely.

We need a MAV to fullfill the role of singular Mercenary tanks.. They need to be limited and somewhat balanced to infantry AV where 1-2 good mercs can compete with the Singular Manned MAV tank....

Then turn the HAV's into Multi-manned Platforms... Meaning the Driver gets the Driving seat and the Small Turret in the front.. And you need an actual "Gunner" to operate the main turret.... This tank has all the glory and power of tanks we know today... but it needs two mercenaries to even utilize that potential.

This will create an amazing gameplay dynamic and true "tanking" teams...The team work and ability that could develop.. and fix a huge part of the force multiplier issue that is gonna exist with tanks until a singular mercenary can't call in a mecahanized unit that will regenerates infinitely and make them 300x stronger...

And peoples only answer to fixing that is only allow a couple people to use vehicles.. per match which is silly and very anti-CCP and anti-sandbox... But calling in that amount of vehicle force should yield some negative consequences on battlefield manpower running map objectives beyond a couple map options that have cover options for vehicles...

But with a perma hardened vehicle you do sacrafice other mods

i disagree man
this speed boost is the only thing that saves tanks from FGs w/o it would be death
w/o range from blasters those tanks would be just food for DS or FGs or even swarms in more organized environement
remove redline and blaster range is a non factor the red line is the culprit here

im not telling that one person should not be able to shoot and drive at the same time, i'm telling divide dmg/armor/modules efficiency per person with pilot suit for instance in tank and you got balance IMO

one pilot in tank equals 1/3 or 1/4 of current module or weapon efficiency armor number,speed, reloading times and things like that

there is a lot possibilities to approach the crews for HAV not only limiting one pilot to only driver etc

But also remove the window of vulnerability that CCP promised.

Afterburners are already limited, which makes sense.

From what I've heard, people just want hardeners limited. Myself included.

Yes we do want to limit the use of stacking modules, just like infantry modules have stacking penalties.
Damage Mod have stacking penalties, their is no point using 5, so I think that is a bare faced lie.

If Infantry had a mod as powerful as hardeners we would most defiantly have some severe stacking penalties. What about cloaks? They are being limited to 1 per suit, so why not vehicle hardeners?

It only really effects HAV's because dropships don't fit multiple hardners, and LAV's don't have the EHP to get much use out of them.

Just leaving this here. If you do this don't send this or this.

lol

But i survived in a DS, it took your team swarms and 3 FG to even try and bring me down

Why can i do it but you cant?

Whenever ive seen you in games you dont fly, you refuse to fly

Practise makes perfect

54 WP wow, way to pull one for the team, Im guessing the only reason they took shots was for target paractice.

so like I said early you want the vehicle cap removed?

The range on blasters is the reason one tank can steam roll a team, which is the primary reason so many people dislike tanks. They should have to worry about infantry AV if they plan to slaughter infantry, as it stands now you have the FG (which as a PLC user I feel is too easy to use) the PLC and RE's to counter tanks on foot. The FG is the only one that doesn't require you to get well within blaster range to be effective. As far as escape-ability that's why I said reduce speed OR remove the warning on prox mines. Either force them to retreat while their hardeners are still up or force them to do so carefully along secured routes, not just panic and haul ass out via the easiest path.

What a waste of time.

Here's what i want for vehicles: Web grenades.

Yea the team was pretty bad i was in a no turreted DS flying about not doing **** all since its not a friendly DS map and they had FG on the high points all game

It was a redline and i was an annoying fly which survived all game

That is a lie. A total lie, which seems to be your style. As you see it was an even match. Not a redline at all. Don't make Pyrex, Bamm Havoc and Me pull out the recordings. Wan't to see you failing at dropships from three angles? Don't try you usual tactic of just telling lies to make a point or get what you want against three well know you tubers. It will burn you.

Ask Cat Merc or Arkena about the match. They'll tell you the truth. Any one can go 1-1 and survive. Just hover up high the whole game.

Infantry wants vehicles gone so they can play CoD514.

That is a lie. A total lie, which seems to be your style. As you see it was an even match. Not a redline at all. Don't make Pyrex, Bamm Havoc and Me pull out the recordings. Wan't to see you failing at dropships from three angles? Don't try you usual tactic of just telling lies to make a point or get what you want against three well know you tubers. It will burn you.

Ask Cat Merc or Arkena about the match. They'll tell you the truth. Any one can go 1-1 and survive. Just hover up high the whole game.