Last night I was killed twice by a player who tossed/dropped a remote explosive and detonated it like an "instant" grenade. Does anybody else think that's bogus?

I'm fine with somebody mining someplace with an explosive or getting killed by a grenade, but by using a remote explosive as an improvised "insta-grenade"? Give me a break.

And the problem with this is ___________?

If you let the guy get i range to toss and wait for the delay to detonate, all while you couldn't react, YOU HAD IT COMING.

GG

Last night I was killed twice by a player who tossed/dropped a remote explosive and detonated it like an "instant" grenade. Does anybody else think that's bogus?

I'm fine with somebody mining someplace with an explosive or getting killed by a grenade, but by using a remote explosive as an improvised "insta-grenade"? Give me a break.

This thread again?

It's definitely an exploit, and I'm 99% sure CCP is aware of it. Two big problems with REs are the "frisbee tossing" and the ability to detonate remotes after death.

Heh, well it's the first time it's happened to me in over 10 months of playing. Sorry if I'm re-hashing old stuff.

But seems a bit unfair to just "drop and trigger" something that can instant kill. at least I can take a hit from a contact grenade in my heavy suit. Maybe if something that "large" of a damage thing had some sort of activation delay or something?

Last night I was killed twice by a player who tossed/dropped a remote explosive and detonated it like an "instant" grenade. Does anybody else think that's bogus?

I'm fine with somebody mining someplace with an explosive or getting killed by a grenade, but by using a remote explosive as an improvised "insta-grenade"? Give me a break.

Ppl have been doing this in every shooter that has remote mines, since goldeneye 007. Learn who has remotes, and shoot them.

2 second arming delay.

Maybe we can petition CCP to get that for Grenades. Sometime It feels like I'm going to die of old age cooking a Frag.

My scout + Shotgun vs Heavy = Dead scout.

Scout + RE vs Heavy = Dead Heavy.

Scout + LAV + RE vs tightly bunched redberries = "Hold my beer, this is gonna be awesome."

Honestly... If you see something get thrown and you're not using that time to GTFO, you had it coming. People suicide bomb with grenades all the time by overcooking them when they know they're going to die.

Here's a scenario for you:

I'm in the Research Lab, running my HMG Heavy (as I often do). I'm in the underground section near the Supply Depot. I turn a corner, someone is already running at me and simultaneously chucking a RE in my face. I take two steps back, the RE blows and thus one-shots me.

Question: What would you have liked me to do in this scenario to avoid death?


You guys remember when everyone complained about tower FG sniping? That was because there was no real effective counter against that tactic. Since the only way to get up to these towers was with a Dropship, and since FGs would wreck these Dropships, there wasn't really anything to do about 4 FGunners on top of a tower raining down hell on you. The present RE situation is similar, because there is no effective counter. There's no Counter Play involved, because there's nothing I can do to react effectively, no way to think around it. I'm just immediately dead.

Here's a scenario for you:

I'm in the Research Lab, running my HMG Heavy (as I often do). I'm in the underground section near the Supply Depot. I turn a corner, someone is already running at me and simultaneously chucking a RE in my face. I take two steps back, the RE blows and thus one-shots me.

Question: What would you have liked me to do in this scenario to avoid death?


You guys remember when everyone complained about tower FG sniping? That was because there was no real effective counter against that tactic. Since the only way to get up to these towers was with a Dropship, and since FGs would wreck these Dropships, there wasn't really anything to do about 4 FGunners on top of a tower raining down hell on you. The present RE situation is similar, because there is no effective counter. There's no Counter Play involved, because there's nothing I can do to react effectively, no way to think around it. I'm just immediately dead.

We had this problem in closed beta. Except there was no delay between you throwing and detonating it.

Here's a scenario for you:

I'm in the Research Lab, running my HMG Heavy (as I often do). I'm in the underground section near the Supply Depot. I turn a corner, someone is already running at me and simultaneously chucking a RE in my face. I take two steps back, the RE blows and thus one-shots me.

Question: What would you have liked me to do in this scenario to avoid death?


You guys remember when everyone complained about tower FG sniping? That was because there was no real effective counter against that tactic. Since the only way to get up to these towers was with a Dropship, and since FGs would wreck these Dropships, there wasn't really anything to do about 4 FGunners on top of a tower raining down hell on you. The present RE situation is similar, because there is no effective counter. There's no Counter Play involved, because there's nothing I can do to react effectively, no way to think around it. I'm just immediately dead.

You guys remember when everyone complained about tower FG sniping? That was because there was no real effective counter against that tactic. Since the only way to get up to these towers was with a Dropship, and since FGs would wreck these Dropships, there wasn't really anything to do about 4 FGunners on top of a tower raining down hell on you. The present RE situation is similar, because there is no effective counter. There's no Counter Play involved, because there's nothing I can do to react effectively, no way to think around it. I'm just immediately dead.

That's ridiculous, man. You're actually comparing 4 guys with forge guns on the top of a tower that no one can even get to without a dropship (that can be shot out of the air easily) to two people on ground level but one has insta-killed the other, and potentially suicided in the process?

Your options:

1.) Don't be walking around blind corners if you are a heavy alone. You can't pick up jack on your passive scans and you glow like a beacon. Scouts hunt heavies - be aware of this. You're not some walking invincible god that can throw caution and situational awareness to the wind.

2.) Stick with someone with a good active scanner and use it to keep your area secure. Work as a team - isn't that supposedly a heavy thing anyway?

3.) Back up and shoot when you see some madman running at you.

4.) Turn around, run and hope for the best.

Admittedly the last two may not work but then again sometimes may. And you have way more options than some grunt on the ground dealing with 4 tower forge gun pansies.

RE's have a delay, and they are working as they should, perhaps with the exception of the detonate on bleed-out thing, but even that I'm not too sure about. They can be seen, avoided and they are a high-risk way to get kills if used as "grenades" since they can't be thrown far.

Watch out for those nova knives too.... and those scrambler pistol headshots.

EDIT: you know what - kudos to that dude that got you. That took sac. Try facing down some dude in a heavy suit with some HMG or rifle as some puny grunt running with a remote and a hail mary.... a well deserved kill in my book. I'm gonna go kill some heavies now.