Last night I was killed twice by a player who tossed/dropped a remote explosive and detonated it like an "instant" grenade. Does anybody else think that's bogus?

I'm fine with somebody mining someplace with an explosive or getting killed by a grenade, but by using a remote explosive as an improvised "insta-grenade"? Give me a break.

My scout + Shotgun vs Heavy = Dead scout.

Scout + RE vs Heavy = Dead Heavy.

Scout + LAV + RE vs tightly bunched redberries = "Hold my beer, this is gonna be awesome."

Honestly... If you see something get thrown and you're not using that time to GTFO, you had it coming. People suicide bomb with grenades all the time by overcooking them when they know they're going to die.

That's ridiculous, man. You're actually comparing 4 guys with forge guns on the top of a tower that no one can even get to without a dropship (that can be shot out of the air easily) to two people on ground level but one has insta-killed the other, and potentially suicided in the process?

Your options:

1.) Don't be walking around blind corners if you are a heavy alone. You can't pick up jack on your passive scans and you glow like a beacon. Scouts hunt heavies - be aware of this. You're not some walking invincible god that can throw caution and situational awareness to the wind.

2.) Stick with someone with a good active scanner and use it to keep your area secure. Work as a team - isn't that supposedly a heavy thing anyway?

3.) Back up and shoot when you see some madman running at you.

4.) Turn around, run and hope for the best.

Admittedly the last two may not work but then again sometimes may. And you have way more options than some grunt on the ground dealing with 4 tower forge gun pansies.

RE's have a delay, and they are working as they should, perhaps with the exception of the detonate on bleed-out thing, but even that I'm not too sure about. They can be seen, avoided and they are a high-risk way to get kills if used as "grenades" since they can't be thrown far.

Watch out for those nova knives too.... and those scrambler pistol headshots.

EDIT: you know what - kudos to that dude that got you. That took sac. Try facing down some dude in a heavy suit with some HMG or rifle as some puny grunt running with a remote and a hail mary.... a well deserved kill in my book. I'm gonna go kill some heavies now.

Honestly, I'm a terribad scout. I get looked at and fall over dead because I don't bob weave duck and jump. IN a situation like that though, if it happens once, it's not much. It's when people keep repeatedly walking into the same trap. That tunnel is a chokepoint and I'd wait for people to file into it before detonating.

We had a situation -just- like that with Nomex in squad. Same map and everything. We kept eyes going down the tunnels at a safe distance from anywhere people could jump down so they can't toss and det to clear the tunnels. We killed the RE'ers more often than we got killed because we coordinated and communicated. Intel is intel. Use what you get, but if we're not getting any, we can't use it.

In the situation you described, you weren't fully aware of the situation. Said scout may not had specifically targetted you, so you were either a target of opportunity, or the **** hit the fan for him and he had to cut his losses.

*facepalm* Ah the typical tactic of a defeated 'debater' with no valid retort.... ignore anything relevant in the post and throw up some ill-conceived 'opinion' with no logic behind it.

1.) Don't be walking around blind corners if you are a heavy alone. You can't pick up jack on your passive scans and you glow like a beacon. Scouts hunt heavies - be aware of this. You're not some walking invincible god that can throw caution and situational awareness to the wind.

2.) Stick with someone with a good active scanner and use it to keep your area secure. Work as a team - isn't that supposedly a heavy thing anyway?

3.) Back up and shoot when you see some madman running at you.

4.) Turn around, run and hope for the best.

A low risk high reward fitting is more like a Proto Sentinel with decked complex Amor and Damage mods running a rail rifle, combat rifle, or scrambler rifle. A scout with RE's is most likely going to die more often than he kills someone else.