This happened yesterday. Well to be more clear this type of thing happened for a good hour or two that I played ambush until finally there was a city map with actual cover.

http://i.imgur.com/dUg1XGN.jpg

The enemy did not get even one single kill.
CCP this type of thing is certainly pushing new players away from the game. AV needs to be buffed. Spawns need to seriously be reworked. The only guy on the enemy team to receive any warpoints got 650 WP I assume from uplinks.

I just thought I would show this as it was the worst stomp I have ever seen in my year + of playing DUST 514.
(Every member on my side above me was in a tank fyi)

I have diagnosed what the problem is

The problem is ambush

Play another mode

I have diagnosed what the problem is

The problem is ambush

Play another mode

it cant be fixed, its broken by its very design.

ambush aka team death match, where the only objective is to kill and not die will always be "broken"


in the begining tank spam was king.

then people figured out how to control the spawns and would set up a spawn trap.


you can limit tanks, but you can never fix the spawn trap, and therefore it has been and always will be broken.


the only solution to spawn trapping would be to create a system similar to the redline, except that it would either make spawn trapping easyer or end up making it a death match between snipers.


its not fixable, theres no point in discussing it.

I have diagnosed what the problem is

The problem is ambush

Play another mode

This happened yesterday. Well to be more clear this type of thing happened for a good hour or two that I played ambush until finally there was a city map with actual cover.

http://i.imgur.com/dUg1XGN.jpg

The enemy did not get even one single kill.
CCP this type of thing is certainly pushing new players away from the game. AV needs to be buffed. Spawns need to seriously be reworked. The only guy on the enemy team to receive any warpoints got 650 WP I assume from uplinks.

I just thought I would show this as it was the worst stomp I have ever seen in my year + of playing DUST 514.
(Every member on my side above me was in a tank fyi)

i was never a fan of ambush to begin with. objective game modes are a little more fun. until u come across a completely one sided match.

if only a few of those blue berries would have smartened up and traveled a ways away from the enemy hotspots.
and spawned some railgun glass cannons down. with a missile tank or 2.


might have been possible to turn that match around.

as to the av thing.

dont just use the swarm launcher.
combine it with some av nades or fluxes if combating shield tanks.
and pick the moment to attack. primarily when hardeners are down. which some of those modules could use some changing to where we lose the perma hardened vehicles.

im actually fine with tanks as they are currently.

when using av the player has to be a little more tactical with where they r firing from what they r using and such.

its not that difficult to successfully use it though.

I'm just gonna laugh my ass off when CCP makes a mode where you cannot be in a squad. Then the stompers will all have to fight eachother, then they can come to the forums crying that they have no helpless newberries to slaughter to pad their worthless kdrs.
The time will come you wait and see.

So? The other team wasn't that great either, look at the scores. It's looks like the blind fought the deaf in that match. You only had three guys go double digit kills in the entire match.

If one highly skilled player would have entered that match...he would have had a very nice payout.

its called TANKBUSH

and it doesn't matter, we stomp on foot too. we were like the 72 dolphins in that match


ps \o/ yaaaa my (our) first hate thread. (at least i dont run blasters)

Ambush should literally be removed from the game it's just a worthless shitfest. It doesn't even fit with the lore either. I mean what the **** kind of gamemode creates instances like this.

Crazy masochist that I am, Ambush is my primary game mode when I play solo. Quick, cheap isk where I can grind out the sp cap fairly rapidly. And when Ambush is good, it is Very Good. But I've been in sessions where I was q-synced with Duna for an entire night and Christ, it is not fun. It needs to be changed.

Here's the issue; tanks do everything. They scan you down, thy speed towards you,get amongst your spawn, and cause carnage. Team is wiped. Tank waits, drives around, mops up stragglers. Then it scans, finds the re spawned group, and hits them again. Rinse and repeat this with five other tanks until game over. Did the other team call in tanks too? No prob, you got yours first, and the bolas signposts where that tank is dropping and doesn't seem to be in too much of a hurry to set it down, so just mosey on up to it and trash it. Easy.

It's crazy to ask groups of randoms to come with damped AV fits by default, but then again....if we all did that, it would probably work. For about five minutes. Which is the time it takes for the opposing teams twelve remaining infantrymen to obliterate you with rr. Yay. Points for trying, I guess?

Maps, scanners, no natural counters to AV. They ruin the mode. Best map for Ambush? The bridge one. Why? Only one tank down that bridge at a time, baby. Remote explosives to to town on that map, and the infantry get to really tear the place up and have fun.

Ambush is nowhere near as bad as Skirmish or Domination, which 90% of the time leads to redline borefests. The most fun I've had in Dust is a good Ambush game, and with a modification or two it can be brought back to it's prime. All that needs to happen is either tanks being limited to two per team or an infantry only gamemode introduced and Ambush is suddenly back to its prime as the most enjoyable mode in Dust, at least until PVE is added.

Well, I salute you for suffering through that to take that picture...

I think there's no need to hammer point home any more - there's a drastic issue here, but until CCP break out of their self-imposed silence (or come back from holiday again).. then I think we can only guess as to what their suggested solution will be.