Ridiculous. I think I was in that match. (Manus Peak?) I was on the stomping team but I had to quit because I had to get to work.
Previous match it was the same. Carbon 7 and Duna corp on the same side spamming tanks.

I have diagnosed what the problem is

The problem is ambush

Play another mode

its called TANKBUSH

and it doesn't matter, we stomp on foot too. we were like the 72 dolphins in that match


ps \o/ yaaaa my (our) first hate thread. (at least i dont run blasters)

"Tanks aren't OP"

"AV IS FINE"

it cant be fixed, its broken by its very design.

ambush aka team death match, where the only objective is to kill and not die will always be "broken"


in the begining tank spam was king.

then people figured out how to control the spawns and would set up a spawn trap.


you can limit tanks, but you can never fix the spawn trap, and therefore it has been and always will be broken.


the only solution to spawn trapping would be to create a system similar to the redline, except that it would either make spawn trapping easyer or end up making it a death match between snipers.


its not fixable, theres no point in discussing it.

So? The other team wasn't that great either, look at the scores. It's looks like the blind fought the deaf in that match. You only had three guys go double digit kills in the entire match.

If one highly skilled player would have entered that match...he would have had a very nice payout.

Crazy masochist that I am, Ambush is my primary game mode when I play solo. Quick, cheap isk where I can grind out the sp cap fairly rapidly. And when Ambush is good, it is Very Good. But I've been in sessions where I was q-synced with Duna for an entire night and Christ, it is not fun. It needs to be changed.

Here's the issue; tanks do everything. They scan you down, thy speed towards you,get amongst your spawn, and cause carnage. Team is wiped. Tank waits, drives around, mops up stragglers. Then it scans, finds the re spawned group, and hits them again. Rinse and repeat this with five other tanks until game over. Did the other team call in tanks too? No prob, you got yours first, and the bolas signposts where that tank is dropping and doesn't seem to be in too much of a hurry to set it down, so just mosey on up to it and trash it. Easy.

It's crazy to ask groups of randoms to come with damped AV fits by default, but then again....if we all did that, it would probably work. For about five minutes. Which is the time it takes for the opposing teams twelve remaining infantrymen to obliterate you with rr. Yay. Points for trying, I guess?

Maps, scanners, no natural counters to AV. They ruin the mode. Best map for Ambush? The bridge one. Why? Only one tank down that bridge at a time, baby. Remote explosives to to town on that map, and the infantry get to really tear the place up and have fun.

Ambush is nowhere near as bad as Skirmish or Domination, which 90% of the time leads to redline borefests. The most fun I've had in Dust is a good Ambush game, and with a modification or two it can be brought back to it's prime. All that needs to happen is either tanks being limited to two per team or an infantry only gamemode introduced and Ambush is suddenly back to its prime as the most enjoyable mode in Dust, at least until PVE is added.