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Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 953	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:49:00 - [1] - Quote I'm getting sent to late matches that last 5 seconds more often, now. I did, however, get a Cala's from that. But still, I rather play than get stuff I can't even use!
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 163	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:58:00 - [2] - Quote I seriously doubt we have the active player numbers to institute matchmaking the way a number of people on the forums seem to be suggesting. At this point I'd settle for a simple sorting algorithm that divides squads between sides before filling in the 'randomns'. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6788	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:00:00 - [3] - Quote We just don't have enough people online. The matchmaking works wonders when you have enough people online. Unfortunately, 4,000 concurrent users at one time is not enough. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 1014	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:01:00 - [4] - Quote At the moment of writing this, the timer for ambush is 3:20 still searching. :X Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 421	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:02:00 - [5] - Quote I've had opposite experience so far, matches have just started, teams are both full or close enough and matches are tight though I might just have been lucky I will show you fear in a handful of dust. 1.7 best match (HMG): 40/9/9 (K/A/D)
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 94	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:08:00 - [6] - Quote Denn Maell wrote: I seriously doubt we have the active player numbers to institute matchmaking the way a number of people on the forums seem to be suggesting. At this point I'd settle for a simple sorting algorithm that divides squads between sides before filling in the 'randomns'. Maken Tosch wrote: We just don't have enough people online. The matchmaking works wonders when you have enough people online. Unfortunately, 4,000 concurrent users at one time is not enough. Correctamundo And with all this supposed logic we still get more unbalanced games than not. Just very simple matchmaking and let whatever happens happen. The last minute deployments are detestable though. "Shine bright like a diamond"
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1175	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:25:00 - [7] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I'm getting sent to late matches that last 5 seconds more often, now. I did, however, get a Cala's from that. But still, I rather play than get stuff I can't even use! There is a very simple way to not be sent in to these type of matches. When launching a match in the battle finder, once you get the "waiting for deployment" message, the battle finder will display how many mercs are currently qued for this battle. If you see 31/32 immediately cancel deployment, wait a few seconds, then redeploy. I do this for anything 28-31. These numbered mean that more than likely you are taking the spot of someone that has just left a battle that is already in progress. Follow this rule and you will never be put into another match that is already in progress. {:)}{3GÇó>
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 802	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:31:00 - [8] - Quote If someone rage-quits near the end of the match, why does CCP's algorithm think it's a good idea to queue me into that same match? Is it so hard to implement something that a) prevents people from quitting a game near the end of a match or b) prevents people from joining a game that's nearly over?
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 954	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:44:00 - [9] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Joel II X wrote: I'm getting sent to late matches that last 5 seconds more often, now. I did, however, get a Cala's from that. But still, I rather play than get stuff I can't even use! There is a very simple way to not be sent in to these type of matches. When launching a match in the battle finder, once you get the "waiting for deployment" message, the battle finder will display how many mercs are currently qued for this battle. If you see 31/32 immediately cancel deployment, wait a few seconds, then redeploy. I do this for anything 28-31. These numbers mean that more than likely you are taking the spot of someone that has just left a battle that is already in progress. Follow this rule and you will never be put into another match that is already in progress. I did this yesterday. Had to cancel a match 15 times in a row. 10 of those times was the same exact match.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1175	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:48:00 - [10] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Joel II X wrote: I'm getting sent to late matches that last 5 seconds more often, now. I did, however, get a Cala's from that. But still, I rather play than get stuff I can't even use! There is a very simple way to not be sent in to these type of matches. When launching a match in the battle finder, once you get the "waiting for deployment" message, the battle finder will display how many mercs are currently qued for this battle. If you see 31/32 immediately cancel deployment, wait a few seconds, then redeploy. I do this for anything 28-31. These numbers mean that more than likely you are taking the spot of someone that has just left a battle that is already in progress. Follow this rule and you will never be put into another match that is already in progress. I did this yesterday. Had to cancel a match 15 times in a row. 10 of those times was the same exact match. You, can't reque immediately. You have to give it time to put some other poor shlub in that match, or it's just going to keep putting you right back in there. I usually wait about a minute or so befor requeing. I don't seem to have any problems. {:)}{3GÇó>

Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 544	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:50:00 - [11] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: We just don't have enough people online. The matchmaking works wonders when you have enough people online. Unfortunately, 4,000 concurrent users at one time is not enough. this is bullshit. I fought molon labe and nyan chan as a random. CCPcould have had them face each other but instead paired them up against randoms. Who wants some?
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 9285	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:55:00 - [12] - Quote To those people saying 'We don't have enough people'... That is not an excuse for matchmaking this poor. It truly is terrible. It puts multiple squads on one side. This is not an issue of there not being the people present - they are present, they're being put in the wrong places. Putting people in matches 5 seconds away from ending is likewise unacceptable. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood 464	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:55:00 - [13] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I'm getting sent to late matches that last 5 seconds more often, now. I did, however, get a Cala's from that. But still, I rather play than get stuff I can't even use! teams of 6 vs 16 now WTF ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
HAICD Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 93	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:59:00 - [14] - Quote When's the best time to bring out your proto gear?? When you have 5 proto players that have your back! If you make the squads smaller like 4 players it will be harder for one squad to run the whole match and if team try to q sync they should be against each other in a pub match. DOWG
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 320	Posted - 2014.02.11 20:06:00 - [15] - Quote it was a bug fix, NOT a tweak to matchmaking. most likely fixing a bug that had you fighting an empty team and nerver adding anybody
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1178	Posted - 2014.02.11 20:20:00 - [16] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: , I never thought about it like that. Deep man, deep. {:)}{3GÇó>
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 959	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:02:00 - [17] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: pyramidhead 420 wrote: , I never thought about it like that. Deep man, deep. I agree. He obviously knows what he's talking about! In all seriousness though, now half of my matches are started late (ranging from 3/4 of MCC health to 2%). I had one match where it was me and my squad buddy against 3 dudes out of the academy and a guy on his Python with proto missile turret. Yup.
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 205	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:32:00 - [18] - Quote I didn't see much of any matchmaking fix at all today. All I saw was still heavily unbalanced matches in which some friends told me they were still going up against major q-synced squads in Ambush. Another match I was in consisted of all Sver and OSG all on one side while my half was all random scrubs. So what I saw was no fix at all, except now a huge wait time tacked on for pub matches of well over 2-3 mins in some cases. Looks like another disaster to me. It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 561	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:53:00 - [19] - Quote Maybe on the 514th try. Who wants some?
Jimbo Boilstaff THE MASSIVE DYNAMIC 95	Posted - 2014.02.12 03:42:00 - [20] - Quote No its not ideal at all joining matches that are so close to the end.... But i assume you're all queueing as individuals rather than a squad.... The mechanic is clearly broken for individuals now,,,, but you hardly ever get this problem when joining as a squad (presumably because not enough 'open' spaces become free near the end of games for a squad to be added) seems to me everyone having this problem should squad together,,, and at least then theres a temporary fix,,, and you can go back to being a loner once they finally sort it It's an 'MMO' anyway,,, everything in Dust prefers teamplay,,, even match queues!

Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 963	Posted - 2014.02.12 05:09:00 - [21] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: Maybe on the 514th try. In the 514th try, I'll get a permanent fetal error. That's what I think.
Dreniella Expert Intervention Caldari State 21	Posted - 2014.02.12 05:24:00 - [22] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I'm getting sent to late matches that last 5 seconds more often, now. They did not hotfix that. They hotfixed matches where you'd play 1v16 for entire match.

CCP Draco C C P C C P Alliance 101	Posted - 2014.02.12 05:53:00 - [23] - Quote Hi, I'd like to offer a short explanation of what yesterday's matchmaking fix was all about. In essence, there was a problem with squads getting added on the wrong team in public and academy battles. So if you had a 4:8 battle and joined with a 4 player squad, it would sometimes put that squad on the team with 8 players, causing it to be 4:12. That should no longer happen with the fix. However, you may still end up with temporary imbalances if someone joins with a 6 people squad on an already balanced match, say 10:10, as it won't break up the squad. Thus you'd get a 10:16 (or 16:10) match until more players join the queue. Similar imbalances might happen if you have an 11:16 battle and all players in the queue are 6 player squads, as they would not fit into that battle. Thanks, CCP Draco

Aeon Amadi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4871	Posted - 2014.02.12 06:20:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Draco wrote: Hi, I'd like to offer a short explanation of what yesterday's matchmaking fix was all about. In essence, there was a problem with squads getting added on the wrong team in public and academy battles. So if you had a 4:8 battle and joined with a 4 player squad, it would sometimes put that squad on the team with 8 players, causing it to be 4:12. That should no longer happen with the fix. However, you may still end up with temporary imbalances if someone joins with a 6 people squad on an already balanced match, say 10:10, as it won't break up the squad. Thus you'd get a 10:16 (or 16:10) match until more players join the queue. Similar imbalances might happen if you have an 11:16 battle and all players in the queue are 6 player squads, as they would not fit into that battle. Thanks, CCP Draco It's still doing that. http://i.imgur.com/WleLjMZ.jpg Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 1014	Posted - 2014.02.12 06:58:00 - [25] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: It's still having some imbalances. http://i.imgur.com/WleLjMZ.jpg That... doesn't seem TOO imbalanced. There seems to be 2 squads on the enemy side and maybe 3 squads on your side. What looks to be the problem in this pic, is the squad sizes. Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
Aeon Amadi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4871	Posted - 2014.02.12 07:19:00 - [26] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: It's still having some imbalances. http://i.imgur.com/WleLjMZ.jpg That... doesn't seem TOO imbalanced. There seems to be 2 squads on the enemy side and maybe 3 squads on your side. What looks to be the problem in this pic, is the squad sizes. Was our squad of Anonymous (and myself) mixed with two other small squads against AE, ANONYMOUS (who we tried to q-synch with) and a squad of Molon Labe. We got annihilated. Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
nicholas73 Glitched Connection 52	Posted - 2014.02.12 13:24:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Draco wrote: Hi, I'd like to offer a short explanation of what yesterday's matchmaking fix was all about. In essence, there was a problem with squads getting added on the wrong team in public and academy battles. So if you had a 4:8 battle and joined with a 4 player squad, it would sometimes put that squad on the team with 8 players, causing it to be 4:12. That should no longer happen with the fix. However, you may still end up with temporary imbalances if someone joins with a 6 people squad on an already balanced match, say 10:10, as it won't break up the squad. Thus you'd get a 10:16 (or 16:10) match until more players join the queue. Similar imbalances might happen if you have an 11:16 battle and all players in the queue are 6 player squads, as they would not fit into that battle. Thanks, CCP Draco I thought matchmaking was a complex process. So is it that scotty just queue guys up and throw them into a match? Dust to Dust Ashes to Ashes
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 2185	Posted - 2014.02.12 13:29:00 - [28] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Repe Susi wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: It's still having some imbalances. http://i.imgur.com/WleLjMZ.jpg That... doesn't seem TOO imbalanced. There seems to be 2 squads on the enemy side and maybe 3 squads on your side. What looks to be the problem in this pic, is the squad sizes. Was our squad of Anonymous (and myself) mixed with two other small squads against AE, ANONYMOUS (who we tried to q-synch with) and a squad of Molon Labe. We got annihilated. Draco said the fix was to team numbers, not the balance of the players on either side. You had 16 vs 16. Though the may have been more in squads on one side than the other and those players may have been significantly better, you still had even numbers, which is what the fix was about. Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot Scout community is the nuts
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1558	Posted - 2014.02.12 15:12:00 - [29] - Quote The response from CCP Draco is appreciated, and the fact that the matchmaker is getting attention is appreciated. But this must be said: given the nature of the error described and the fundamental role it plays in determining player experience, it is absolutely stunning how long it has taken CCP to address this. Furthermore, it was a problem solvable by a hotfix. The mind boggles and reels with despair simultaneously - if there's an upside it's that this did finally receive attention. Perhaps that's the hand of our new EP at work and hopefully a sign of things to come. I support SP rollover.
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 575	Posted - 2014.02.12 15:48:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Draco wrote: Hi, I'd like to offer a short explanation of what yesterday's matchmaking fix was all about. In essence, there was a problem with squads getting added on the wrong team in public and academy battles. So if you had a 4:8 battle and joined with a 4 player squad, it would sometimes put that squad on the team with 8 players, causing it to be 4:12. That should no longer happen with the fix. However, you may still end up with temporary imbalances if someone joins with a 6 people squad on an already balanced match, say 10:10, as it won't break up the squad. Thus you'd get a 10:16 (or 16:10) match until more players join the queue. Similar imbalances might happen if you have an 11:16 battle and all players in the queue are 6 player squads, as they would not fit into that battle. Thanks, CCP Draco So there's no fix coming for the all-too-common situation of "2 full proto squads on one side vs all lone wolves on the other"? Surely, a better fix would be to make sure that each team has a premade squad before adding an additional premade to a team with one already. I mean, listen, I'm all for Dust being difficult, and I get that there will always be gearing imbalances. But stacking squads on one side of the match doesn't really make the game more fun or even challenging. Those well-coordinated squads just end up stomping the other team, driving them to the redline, then harassing the redline once they have total domination. It's not fun, and well, this is a game after all. It should be fun. And before all the fanboys come in with "oh Vespa you should join a squad!," I normally do play in squads. My corp is very active, and there's always guys to run with. But sometimes you queue up solo. Sometimes it's faster than waiting for the squad queue or sometimes you want to play a different game mode (FW) than the squads blitzing ambush matches. It happens, and when it does, it should at least be fun and competitive. >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<

Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 965	Posted - 2014.02.12 16:05:00 - [31] - Quote CCP Draco wrote: Hi, I'd like to offer a short explanation of what yesterday's matchmaking fix was all about. In essence, there was a problem with squads getting added on the wrong team in public and academy battles. So if you had a 4:8 battle and joined with a 4 player squad, it would sometimes put that squad on the team with 8 players, causing it to be 4:12. That should no longer happen with the fix. However, you may still end up with temporary imbalances if someone joins with a 6 people squad on an already balanced match, say 10:10, as it won't break up the squad. Thus you'd get a 10:16 (or 16:10) match until more players join the queue. Similar imbalances might happen if you have an 11:16 battle and all players in the queue are 6 player squads, as they would not fit into that battle. Thanks, CCP Draco Oh. Well, that explains things. I just hope another fix comes to stop the late matches. Lock the matches after 2 minutes passed!
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1559	Posted - 2014.02.12 16:47:00 - [32] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: CCP Draco wrote: Hi, I'd like to offer a short explanation of what yesterday's matchmaking fix was all about. In essence, there was a problem with squads getting added on the wrong team in public and academy battles. So if you had a 4:8 battle and joined with a 4 player squad, it would sometimes put that squad on the team with 8 players, causing it to be 4:12. That should no longer happen with the fix. However, you may still end up with temporary imbalances if someone joins with a 6 people squad on an already balanced match, say 10:10, as it won't break up the squad. Thus you'd get a 10:16 (or 16:10) match until more players join the queue. Similar imbalances might happen if you have an 11:16 battle and all players in the queue are 6 player squads, as they would not fit into that battle. Thanks, CCP Draco So there's no fix coming for the all-too-common situation of "2 full proto squads on one side vs all lone wolves on the other"? Surely, a better fix would be to make sure that each team has a premade squad before adding an additional premade to a team with one already. I mean, listen, I'm all for Dust being difficult, and I get that there will always be gearing imbalances. But stacking squads on one side of the match doesn't really make the game more fun or even challenging. Those well-coordinated squads just end up stomping the other team, driving them to the redline, then harassing the redline once they have total domination. It's not fun, and well, this is a game after all. It should be fun. And before all the fanboys come in with "oh Vespa you should join a squad!," I normally do play in squads. My corp is very active, and there's always guys to run with. But sometimes you queue up solo. Sometimes it's faster than waiting for the squad queue or sometimes you want to play a different game mode (FW) than the squads blitzing ambush matches. It happens, and when it does, it should at least be fun and competitive. I think this fix was a (relatively) quick and easy mechanical fix. Fixing the balancing calculations of the matchmaker is a much stickier problem, genuinely tough given the number of variables we have in DUST. On that topic, the dev mention of sp/fit variables being used by the matchmaker is deeply troubling to me. There are far more predictive variables that the matchmaker could use. My choices would be the win/loss records of the mercs and their historical final match scoreboard rank, weighted by allies and enemies historical rankings. If i actually had the job of writing a matchmaker for DUST i would use a far more rigorous approach based on calculating the mutual information between candidate variables and the distribution of match outcomes. Once st up that approch is easy to work with and yields good results. If the problem proved more difficult, one could step up the analysis to elicit synthetic variables that demonstrated more predictive power. It's very unlikely this problem is that hard, however. What i would avoid at all costs is relying on my intuition to try and kludge together a matchmaker. That's a common error born of hubris and inexperience. In this matter the developer of the matchmaker should think of themselves as a slave to the empirical data and the mathematics. I support SP rollover.
Bragoltur Valaruina Immortal Guides 0	Posted - 2014.02.12 18:39:00 - [33] - Quote What about some kind of penalty for the people who quit in the middle of matches? For example you could set it so that if someone quits a match that is still going (or is removed for idling) they are not permitted to try again until the match is over. This would go for people who quit while waiting to deploy. Not a perfect solution granted, but it would help stop game hoppers from taking up spaces in new matches and quitting to find another one if they don't like what they see.
Bragoltur Valaruina Immortal Guides 0	Posted - 2014.02.12 18:45:00 - [34] - Quote The advantage would be that the person quitting would get nothing from quitting. They don't get their isk payout and they can't join another match until the current one is over anyway.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 2186	Posted - 2014.02.12 20:32:00 - [35] - Quote Bragoltur Valaruina wrote: The advantage would be that the person quitting would get nothing from quitting. They don't get their isk payout and they can't join another match until the current one is over anyway. Thus trapping poor souls who find themselves on the wrong side of a horrendous redlining against a full team of protostomping squads with 9 tanks. GG Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot Scout community is the nuts
Bragoltur Valaruina Immortal Guides 0	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:43:00 - [36] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Bragoltur Valaruina wrote: The advantage would be that the person quitting would get nothing from quitting. They don't get their isk payout and they can't join another match until the current one is over anyway. Thus trapping poor souls who find themselves on the wrong side of a horrendous redlining against a full team of protostomping squads with 9 tanks. GG Good point, but that isn't the normal situation, (In my experience) and when I am in that situation, I have always stuck it out until the end out of respect for the people who I know will be deployed into the match after I leave. I do think that rage quitting (even though I have come very close to it myself) is one of the main things that causes the matchfinder to fail.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 967	Posted - 2014.02.13 02:11:00 - [37] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Bragoltur Valaruina wrote: The advantage would be that the person quitting would get nothing from quitting. They don't get their isk payout and they can't join another match until the current one is over anyway. Thus trapping poor souls who find themselves on the wrong side of a horrendous redlining against a full team of protostomping squads with 9 tanks. GG Sometimes, we don't even get payed lol I went 20-6 earlier today and got 0 SP and 0 isk.
Bragoltur Valaruina Immortal Guides 1	Posted - 2014.02.13 02:21:00 - [38] - Quote Ouch. I've never failed to get paid in a match when I had done anything... Something I just thought of, once cloaking devices come out, it will be much harder to redline the other team, though you'd probably have to train up to them first.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 967	Posted - 2014.02.13 02:26:00 - [39] - Quote Bragoltur Valaruina wrote: Ouch. I've never failed to get paid in a match when I had done anything... Something I just thought of, once cloaking devices come out, it will be much harder to redline the other team, though you'd probably have to train up to them first. That'd only work for scouts and logistics because no other class will have enough CPU to equip them. Assuming the logistics nerf won't harm their CPU and PG much. Here: your first like, by the way.
Bragoltur Valaruina Immortal Guides 1	Posted - 2014.02.13 03:45:00 - [40] - Quote Why thank you, I'm fairly new here, but I'm already a huge fan of the game and looking forward to seeing where they go with it.

Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 287	Posted - 2014.02.13 04:16:00 - [41] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Draco wrote: Hi, I'd like to offer a short explanation of what yesterday's matchmaking fix was all about. In essence, there was a problem with squads getting added on the wrong team in public and academy battles. So if you had a 4:8 battle and joined with a 4 player squad, it would sometimes put that squad on the team with 8 players, causing it to be 4:12. That should no longer happen with the fix. However, you may still end up with temporary imbalances if someone joins with a 6 people squad on an already balanced match, say 10:10, as it won't break up the squad. Thus you'd get a 10:16 (or 16:10) match until more players join the queue. Similar imbalances might happen if you have an 11:16 battle and all players in the queue are 6 player squads, as they would not fit into that battle. Thanks, CCP Draco It's still having some imbalances. http://i.imgur.com/WleLjMZ.jpg It looks like 16v16 to me, which is what CCP Draco's explained the fix would address. I'll be keeping my eyes out for any 2v8 matches for a while (I used to get 1 a day like that.) DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 386	Posted - 2014.02.13 19:13:00 - [42] - Quote It seems like this is a ground up problem. Scotty is taking players 1 or squad at a time and putting them on a side in a match instead of getting a full pool of 32 players THEN putting them on sides. Maybe this was originally envisioned as the better method because you would be placed in the WB on a particular side as players joined? I know in other FPS games I've played, they would fill the game first, then divide based on balancing. Edit: I guess a problem with filling is the potential for five 6 man squads which couldn't divide evenly. Scotty would have to be smart enough to stop at four 6 man squads. I wonder how much of the match making problems are due to the increase in squad size from 4 to 6? 4 divided into 16 nicely. Lets get matches up to 18v18 to help match making! YouTube 30D Recruiting
Bragoltur Valaruina Immortal Guides 2	Posted - 2014.02.14 01:10:00 - [43] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: It seems like this is a ground up problem. Scotty is taking players 1 or squad at a time and putting them on a side in a match instead of getting a full pool of 32 players THEN putting them on sides. Maybe this was originally envisioned as the better method because you would be placed in the WB on a particular side as players joined? I know in other FPS games I've played, they would fill the game first, then divide based on balancing. Edit: I guess a problem with filling is the potential for five 6 man squads which couldn't divide evenly. Scotty would have to be smart enough to stop at four 6 man squads. I wonder how much of the match making problems are due to the increase in squad size from 4 to 6? 4 divided into 16 nicely. Lets get matches up to 18v18 to help match making! Current battles +4 = more awesome. >:)
DJINN Axeman Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 21	Posted - 2014.02.14 03:51:00 - [44] - Quote Well, I see the whole matching system is down the toilet! The past couple of days, I have noticed, it takes four to five times as long to get to the "waiting for deployment" stage to see that I am 31/32 or 32/32. This happens over and over. Even if I wait and try again, I see that it is the same thing, but a different planet. Um, that means I could have gotten into that game from the start instead of trying to put me in a late game! Every game has been a mismatch. One team redlines the other within the first minute and just destroys the other which leads to the crybabies that leave the game instead of throwing on a free or cheap suit and sticking it out because they want to pad their stats. So some poor bastard get pulled into their spot instead of going into a fresh game. After a quarter of the game is not played you should be locked into that game until its done. This way, when a game is a quarter over Scotty can't put you in that game anymore. Make Scotty start new game. Even if there is freezes and dc's. That happens far less than people leaving battle halfway through. Go back to 5 second waiting times and put us back on the warbarge! Let the damn matching go randomly just to see what happens. Anything has got to be better than the current system! C'mon!


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