There is a very simple solution to your problem, use decoys!

We had a PC where we anihilated the enemy Vehicles (DS + whole squad) at the start of the match.

Next match against the same opponent, they adapted, and called in an lav + 1 cheap suit at the start of the match... we wasted that OB on the lav and they spawned what they needed without further problems...

You need to adapt and stop whining...

Whining doesn't leed to improvements, adaptation does!

Ignoring the other idiot posters, agreed, it is an unbalanced mechanic that can drastically change the course of the game in just the first few seconds.

Some might call it fair play, since you would have had to get EVE support in the first place, and not to mention, hold the station. Is it not enough that they will get an OB every 3 minutes on top of earned OBs. I like that EVE actually plays a big part of PC, but that part shouldn't be that HUGE.

Those OBs can make or break a game on their own, seems a bit much to allow one right from the git go. It would be nice if we could start a match normally, get everything setup, get in our places, and then boom, OB. The damn things are devastating enough, that you don't NEED one right at the start. All that is is icing on the cake.

Agreed on starting the timer, AFTER battle has started.

There's an easy solution: Get your own Eve pilots.

Disagree.

Speaking as someone who has had orbital supremacy in the majority of the PC matches I've played, I think it's a terrible and cheap mechanic.

Being able to randomly destroy everything on spawning can cripple a team, and there is very little you can do about it.

He obviously either; has not played very many PCs or hasn't played PCs at the level in which we are used to Arkena. I'm not trying to sound elitist, but when you're fighting top tier corporations suddenly every little thing matters.

Every second lost during initial deployment can be detrimental and decisive to which team will win the game.

Getting beaten right out of the gate is very hard to overcome. In many cases you could just back out, it's over.

It's a cheesy mechanic that they have commented was unintended. As most know it's the warbarge time and being able to connect to the district during that time that allows this.

It's really hard to believe how much PC is ignored with the amount of ISK it generates. I wonder what's the time spent by CCP on BPOs and their impact on the economy vs the time spent on PC.

It's really hard to believe how much PC is ignored with the amount of ISK it generates. I wonder what's the time spent by CCP on BPOs and their impact on the economy vs the time spent on PC.

According to CPM Hans, the isk generation of BPOs makes PC isk generation look like abject poverty.

Then why aren't there a bunch of BPO billionaires out there? I know one guy.

I know quite a few PC billionaires.

Then why aren't there a bunch of BPO billionaires out there? I know one guy.

I know quite a few PC billionaires.

The problem is very, very apparent and yet unspoken of. Maybe its because, as you said, such a small population of players actually play PC, because PC is so abhorrently broken. And because PC is so abhorrently broken, no-one but a small population of players actually play PC and because of this; the very apparent problems with PC are unspoken of.

It is truly a vicious cycle.

I'm not disagreeing with you.
Simply in terms of the larger economy, apparently.

As it happens, I argued against Hans with the lack of forthcoming statistics. It's one of the Dust Scussion Skype channels, I'm not sure if you're still in those but if you are you can read the backlog.

No doubt. I've tried to get some threads going in general discussion, but the masses just think PC players are all glitchers who use modded controllers and mouse and keyboard at the same time.

Team deploy is needed in a big way. There should be a pub match mode that allows team deploy.

You could set up a team just as you do for a squad currently, but they could only deploy into FW, PC, and a new pub match gamemode (a seperate skirmish). They could make the payouts higher in the team deploy game mode to give incentive to players to play in the team mode.

They also need to redo the mechanics in PC to make the battles spin up sooner. Like 30 minutes to an hour instead of 24-48 hours. These steps right here would do a LOT for PC competition in six months.

There are plenty of players with the SP and the overall knowledge of Dust to get competitive in PC. The problem is the learning curve of PC. That step is like going from PeeWee football to the NFL. The beta corp battles really prepared people for PC in a way that I doubt CCP thought of. We've been doing PC for 7 months now, but most of the ML guys started doing corp battles in Nov/Dec and we were being the curve then.

The lack of team deploy is a glaring issue.

I made it a favorite, I'll keep it bumped.

Thank you kindly sir o7

It's a simple request really, hopefully CCP at least reads all these ideas and considers them.

I absolutely love this game and I don't know how many other people can say that without a heavy heart like I can, I just want this game to continuously improve

Signed, a less than bitter vet

Make the ISK generation come from the fights and not from locking or clone sales.

It's weird that you reporting such game breaking mechanic so late..

I agree and am ashamed that it took me so long to muster up the attention span and time to post this. Honestly I am also surprised that I'm the only person thus far to report on this issue (I might be wrong but I used the search tab before posting)

But, better late than never I say, wouldn't you agree?