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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:42:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:There's an easy solution: Get your own Eve pilots. Disagree. Speaking as someone who has had orbital supremacy in the majority of the PC matches I've played, I think it's a terrible and cheap mechanic. Being able to randomly destroy everything on spawning can cripple a team, and there is very little you can do about it. He obviously either; has not played very many PCs or hasn't played PCs at the level in which we are used to Arkena. I'm not trying to sound elitist, but when you're fighting top tier corporations suddenly every little thing matters. Every second lost during initial deployment can be detrimental and decisive to which team will win the game.
Getting beaten right out of the gate is very hard to overcome. In many cases you could just back out, it's over.
It's a cheesy mechanic that they have commented was unintended. As most know it's the warbarge time and being able to connect to the district during that time that allows this.
It's really hard to believe how much PC is ignored with the amount of ISK it generates. I wonder what's the time spent by CCP on BPOs and their impact on the economy vs the time spent on PC.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2773
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:53:00 -
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Because there is such a low percentage of players participating in PC I think they believe it can wait. But I'd wager that a vast majority of the ISK in Dust resides in the corp wallets (or spread amongst directors) of 5 or 6 corps and less than 200 players.
I guess it works for America, perhaps it will work with Dust.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2773
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:54:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:
It's really hard to believe how much PC is ignored with the amount of ISK it generates. I wonder what's the time spent by CCP on BPOs and their impact on the economy vs the time spent on PC.
According to CPM Hans, the isk generation of BPOs makes PC isk generation look like abject poverty.
Then why aren't there a bunch of BPO billionaires out there? I know one guy.
I know quite a few PC billionaires.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2774
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:02:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:
It's really hard to believe how much PC is ignored with the amount of ISK it generates. I wonder what's the time spent by CCP on BPOs and their impact on the economy vs the time spent on PC.
According to CPM Hans, the isk generation of BPOs makes PC isk generation look like abject poverty. Then why aren't there a bunch of BPO billionaires out there? I know one guy. I know quite a few PC billionaires. The problem is very, very apparent and yet unspoken of. Maybe its because, as you said, such a small population of players actually play PC, because PC is so abhorrently broken. And because PC is so abhorrently broken, no-one but a small population of players actually play PC and because of this; the very apparent problems with PC are unspoken of. It is truly a vicious cycle.
No doubt. I've tried to get some threads going in general discussion, but the masses just think PC players are all glitchers who use modded controllers and mouse and keyboard at the same time.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2774
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:03:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:
It's really hard to believe how much PC is ignored with the amount of ISK it generates. I wonder what's the time spent by CCP on BPOs and their impact on the economy vs the time spent on PC.
According to CPM Hans, the isk generation of BPOs makes PC isk generation look like abject poverty. Then why aren't there a bunch of BPO billionaires out there? I know one guy. I know quite a few PC billionaires. I'm not disagreeing with you. Simply in terms of the larger economy, apparently. As it happens, I argued against Hans with the lack of forthcoming statistics. It's one of the Dust Scussion Skype channels, I'm not sure if you're still in those but if you are you can read the backlog.
Yeah, I've been apart of those and spent some time discussing ISK payouts and such with Hans.
It's hard to keep up because Cat Merc spams the **** out of those channels, lol
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2778
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:22:00 -
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Team deploy is needed in a big way. There should be a pub match mode that allows team deploy.
You could set up a team just as you do for a squad currently, but they could only deploy into FW, PC, and a new pub match gamemode (a seperate skirmish). They could make the payouts higher in the team deploy game mode to give incentive to players to play in the team mode.
They also need to redo the mechanics in PC to make the battles spin up sooner. Like 30 minutes to an hour instead of 24-48 hours. These steps right here would do a LOT for PC competition in six months.
There are plenty of players with the SP and the overall knowledge of Dust to get competitive in PC. The problem is the learning curve of PC. That step is like going from PeeWee football to the NFL. The beta corp battles really prepared people for PC in a way that I doubt CCP thought of. We've been doing PC for 7 months now, but most of the ML guys started doing corp battles in Nov/Dec and we were being the curve then.
The lack of team deploy is a glaring issue.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2780
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:41:00 -
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I made it a favorite, I'll keep it bumped.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2780
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:47:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I made it a favorite, I'll keep it bumped. Thank you kindly sir o7 It's a simple request really, hopefully CCP at least reads all these ideas and considers them. I absolutely love this game and I don't know how many other people can say that without a heavy heart like I can, I just want this game to continuously improve Signed, a less than bitter vet
Same here, I'm a Dust crackhead.
I would like nothing better than to keep my corporation growing, but the way that PC is it's smarter to hire ringers or recruit players and pay them salaries to improve your chances to win.
Taking the passive ISK accrual from the districts away takes some of the drama away from the "land". Make the ISK generation come from the fights and not from locking or clone sales.
There is so much about PC that hurts this game more than helps it.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2790
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:48:00 -
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This is why we don't have nice things. This is an unintended, broken mechanic.
The three minute timer isn't supposed to start when you load into the war barge.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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