Ignoring the other idiot posters, agreed, it is an unbalanced mechanic that can drastically change the course of the game in just the first few seconds.

Some might call it fair play, since you would have had to get EVE support in the first place, and not to mention, hold the station. Is it not enough that they will get an OB every 3 minutes on top of earned OBs. I like that EVE actually plays a big part of PC, but that part shouldn't be that HUGE.

Those OBs can make or break a game on their own, seems a bit much to allow one right from the git go. It would be nice if we could start a match normally, get everything setup, get in our places, and then boom, OB. The damn things are devastating enough, that you don't NEED one right at the start. All that is is icing on the cake.

Agreed on starting the timer, AFTER battle has started.

Disagree.

Speaking as someone who has had orbital supremacy in the majority of the PC matches I've played, I think it's a terrible and cheap mechanic.

Being able to randomly destroy everything on spawning can cripple a team, and there is very little you can do about it.

Getting beaten right out of the gate is very hard to overcome. In many cases you could just back out, it's over.

It's a cheesy mechanic that they have commented was unintended. As most know it's the warbarge time and being able to connect to the district during that time that allows this.

It's really hard to believe how much PC is ignored with the amount of ISK it generates. I wonder what's the time spent by CCP on BPOs and their impact on the economy vs the time spent on PC.

Then why aren't there a bunch of BPO billionaires out there? I know one guy.

I know quite a few PC billionaires.

No doubt. I've tried to get some threads going in general discussion, but the masses just think PC players are all glitchers who use modded controllers and mouse and keyboard at the same time.

Team deploy is needed in a big way. There should be a pub match mode that allows team deploy.

You could set up a team just as you do for a squad currently, but they could only deploy into FW, PC, and a new pub match gamemode (a seperate skirmish). They could make the payouts higher in the team deploy game mode to give incentive to players to play in the team mode.

They also need to redo the mechanics in PC to make the battles spin up sooner. Like 30 minutes to an hour instead of 24-48 hours. These steps right here would do a LOT for PC competition in six months.

There are plenty of players with the SP and the overall knowledge of Dust to get competitive in PC. The problem is the learning curve of PC. That step is like going from PeeWee football to the NFL. The beta corp battles really prepared people for PC in a way that I doubt CCP thought of. We've been doing PC for 7 months now, but most of the ML guys started doing corp battles in Nov/Dec and we were being the curve then.

The lack of team deploy is a glaring issue.

I made it a favorite, I'll keep it bumped.

Make the ISK generation come from the fights and not from locking or clone sales.

It's weird that you reporting such game breaking mechanic so late..

Sure I do.

We missing in Dust God-like bug hunters, that can spawn things for purpose of testing some mechanic and can work with EVE bug hunters that test things on SISI server.

I mean group of people that can test things before they are released to public with same ones that do it with EVE for CCP.

PC broke, let it go

& the coms bug.

I generally trust Hans, but I really want to see those numbers and how they were derived before I'm willing to accept that particular statement. I'm not a math genius and I clearly don't have CCP or CPM level access, but based on what I do have access to I simply cannot see how that adds up within the current game state.

/more on topic
+1 OP, I'm all for "adapt or die" but some things are just lopsided and need to be refined, this case seems like one of them.

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This thread is hilarious. Its like saying there should be a cap for one corp's district ownership because otherwise the corp will get too strong. Its directly counter to the design philosophy because what you just suggested doesn't fit into the game. You should be punished for not coming to fight prepared, not coddled. The fact that they can sway a fight so much means they are an asset you can't ignore, something you should be clamoring to get for yourself. Complaining about it constantly will just keep getting you glassed.

I actually put a post saying exactly this about OB's at the start of the PC battle a few days after release. No one cared. I must say you have received some really stupid guys on your thread though. I fully support this change since it is messed up being able to drop an OB at the start of the battle.

The more posting on the issue the better. Just passing along info on my failed attempt to raise the issue.