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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:10:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Ares 514 wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Ares 514 wrote:[quote=1st Lieutenant Tiberius]
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I actually put a post saying exactly this about OB's at the start of the PC battle a few days after release. No one cared. I must say you have received some really stupid guys on your thread though. I fully support this change since it is messed up being able to drop an OB at the start of the battle. I apologize, I actually remember reading about your post now I should've searched better. But regardless I figured the issue needs to be put to light continuously. I have no idea why other people don't see this as a problem The more posting on the issue the better. Just passing along info on my failed attempt to raise the issue. Link me your post and I will edit it into the OP, I'll bump it as well
Took some searching to find it, I put it in the bugs section :)
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1618990#post1618990
Please fix the mic bubble bug...
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.02.13 03:55:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote: It's really hard to believe how much PC is ignored with the amount of ISK it generates. I wonder what's the time spent by CCP on BPOs and their impact on the economy vs the time spent on PC.
According to CPM Hans, the isk generation of BPOs makes PC isk generation look like abject poverty. Then why aren't there a bunch of BPO billionaires out there? I know one guy. I know quite a few PC billionaires. there's hundreds of BPO millionares though, hell I've got corp members who have hundreds of thousands Billionares I know 15-20 some scammers, some BPO billionares others like NF, AE and FA and Nyain guys who are from PC... The other thing to keep in mind is that BPOs have been around from the start, while PC most certainly has not. The players who are flush with ISK from PC have gathered that wealth in a much shorter time frame than the ISK saved up by players using BPOs. The PC ISK is also more passive (yes you have to fight for PC sometimes, but other times you don't while you always have to fight to gain any ISK advantage from a BPO) and didn't require a micro transaction expenditure of real life money (which all debate about whether or not CCP "can" change a purchase after it's been made completely aside it will have negative ramifications for current and potential player impressions if they set such a precedent).
/more on topic
EVE participation in PC is currently bottle-necked. Last I checked it requires the pilot to be within the alliance they want to support (no merc contracts for players from EVE), it requires the pilot to be in place to provide the support at go time (location effects a lot in EVE, the player will have to travel through potentially hostile space spending time and risking ISK just to arrive on time for the fight) and the benefits cannot be shared (no EVE bonuses for Corps or players outside of an alliance, so unlike 0.0 Sec where deals can be made PC requires a direct membership only focus, which limits the EVE players who would consider participation).
The list goes on, and admittedly there are some workarounds, but the short story here is that the current weakness of the EVE-Dust link makes this mechanic something of an imbalance. EVE and Dust should absolutely share New Eden, but with the match defining effect of an immediate OB and the huge ISK income of PC the current mechanic isn't sharing, it is to an extent making Dust dependent on EVE and that's not helpful for the continued expansion of Dust 514 into a real asset within the New Eden universe/IP.
0.02 ISK Cross
SupportSP Rollover & an improved Recruting System
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3
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Posted - 2014.02.14 01:06:00 -
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Just to clarify, I was in no way implying that PC is just fine or anything like that. Obviously district locking is ****ed and needs to be fixed, obviously PC is generating too much isk and dumping it into the economy, and obviously we have an orbital problem as well (not just the OB-on-match-start, but the fact that you can still use WB strikes in PC as well for twice the spam.) The CPM is continually pressing for fixes in this department, and will continue to do so.
My comment wasn't even about PC really....it was answering another players question about BPO's and why we aren't seeing more of them these days (and the answer is because they're bad for the economy in the long run. And no, I don't have stats I can share, so I don't really care if people don't take me seriously in the meantime, that's fine. Skepticism is healthy.) |
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