We made a vouch to never take out PFC or make people pay taxes, it's all stupid if you ask me. Sounds like NF needs funds. Whomever is on PFC and want to counter it, you should collaborate.

We made a vouch to never take out PFC or make people pay taxes, it's all stupid if you ask me. Sounds like NF needs funds. Whomever is on PFC and want to counter it, you should collaborate.

I'm sure that explains while the AE alt corp Gods Among Men is actively trying to flip a PFC district. Under AE rule of PFC district locking prevailed and corps that had no desire to participate in PFC set up shop on the planet. Now that NF has flipped districts owned by AE to fill contracts (please see: example A , example B, example C ) I understand that you would like to retaliate in any way you can.

I find it unfortunate that you would turn your gaze to disrupting PFC when the members of the planet will finally be the ones who set the rules and a financial model is in place that allows them to be confident in their unified defense and enforcement of the rules rather than hopes and well-wishes.

As it stands now the majority of the members on PFC are participating in the council and are in the process of tackling the many issues that PFC faces in regards with rules and regulations. It will take time for the system to be running at full steam but I'm confident that in time PFC will reach a level of operation that many would have only hoped for.

It is unfortunate that some of the current occupants are either too short-sighted or unable to comprehend the financial model at the crux of the PFC council and its enforcement. The system is designed to be mutually beneficial to all parties and allow PFC members to rule their own day-to-day affairs. As it stands right now the expenses that have included negotiating the peaceful egress of members off PFC that were not present for PFC and the removal of district lockers has far exceeded any income. At this time bringing order to PFC and establishing the PFC council is a net loss as was originally expected and projected.

Personally, I receive no payment or funds from my help with PFC as all income is used to cover expenses including hiring ringers, paying for Eve support, and helping cover clone pack costs to resettle a member who has lost their district illegally should the need arise. As the PFC Council progresses and PFC is brought to order any excess funds will be placed in escrow to insure funds are available when PFC needs them most.

BLAH BS BLAH MORE BS BLAH... with PFC as all income is used to cover expenses including hiring ringers, paying for Eve support, and helping cover clone pack costs to resettle a member who has lost their district illegally should the need arise. As the PFC Council progresses and PFC is brought to order any excess funds will be placed in escrow to insure funds are available when PFC needs them most.

Kane Spero's Escrow Removal and Acquisition Services is living up to it's name. Now it is launching attacks against PFC corps that won't pay them protection money. Proving that paying for Kane's "insurance" really only insures you won't get attacked by him and his alliance.

I'm sure that explains while the AE alt corp Gods Among Men is actively trying to flip a PFC district. Under AE rule of PFC district locking prevailed and corps that had no desire to participate in PFC set up shop on the planet. Now that NF has flipped districts owned by AE to fill contracts (please see: example A , example B, example C ) I understand that you would like to retaliate in any way you can.

I find it unfortunate that you would turn your gaze to disrupting PFC when the members of the planet will finally be the ones who set the rules and a financial model is in place that allows them to be confident in their unified defense and enforcement of the rules rather than hopes and well-wishes.

As it stands now the majority of the members on PFC are participating in the council and are in the process of tackling the many issues that PFC faces in regards with rules and regulations. It will take time for the system to be running at full steam but I'm confident that in time PFC will reach a level of operation that many would have only hoped for.

It is unfortunate that some of the current occupants are either too short-sighted or unable to comprehend the financial model at the crux of the PFC council and its enforcement. The system is designed to be mutually beneficial to all parties and allow PFC members to rule their own day-to-day affairs. As it stands right now the expenses that have included negotiating the peaceful egress of members off PFC that were not present for PFC and the removal of district lockers has far exceeded any income. At this time bringing order to PFC and establishing the PFC council is a net loss as was originally expected and projected.

Personally, I receive no payment or funds from my help with PFC as all income is used to cover expenses including hiring ringers, paying for Eve support, and helping cover clone pack costs to resettle a member who has lost their district illegally should the need arise. As the PFC Council progresses and PFC is brought to order any excess funds will be placed in escrow to insure funds are available when PFC needs them most.

Nice speech you running for office again? Seriously, you are so full of it. You attacked and took a district from Subsonic Synthesis, just because they wouldn't pay you. They have had that district since before Christmas, and were on the "PFC council". You have a fight against Granite Mercenary Division tonight, with plans on taking their district tonight just because they also wouldn't pay your ridiculous fees. You need ISK dust side and are using PFC to get it.

You have no idea how wrong your intel is.

m twiggz, one of our corps has already got far more than their money's worth in services from ERA this week alone.

I'm afraid I've got to back Kane on this one. Policing PFC is hell. And I've said this multiple times, I wouldn't touch that land without payment.

It doesn't need to be touched by an outer entity

No idea what Kane posted TL:DR - probably a bunch of bullshit of how it's rightfully so and how he sucks CCP's triumphant **** and encourage himself he has any worth in Dust.

No idea what Kane posted TL:DR - probably a bunch of bullshit of how it's rightfully so and how he sucks CCP's triumphant **** and encourage himself he has any worth in Dust.

Same thing happend when STB fielded TP to murder the imps...

We all know you're just out for the ISK. There's no need for PFC district owners to pay a weekly/monthly fee to you.

What happens if they don't need your support for the entire month? You pocked 35m from each corp and call it a day. If your real stance is to help the community via PFC then you should do so when the problem arises, not causing problems yourself. There's quite a few corps on PFC that use it as intended without paying any fees. Not to mention most of those corps don't have the ISK to pay your "maintenance" fee. If anything you're just making most of their wallets sink deeper so their hopes of expanding off of PFC is an even more distant goal.

From what I've heard you're charging 8.75m/week. 24 PFC districts = 840m a month in your pocket. You say those funds won't go to you, we all know they will. Just tell it like it is Kain. I'd rather you be honest than spread lies and false help to these corporations.

I'd also like to add my ringing services are free of charge to any corp on PFC that gets attacked outside of the old rule set.

Kane Spero's Escrow Removal and Acquisition Services is living up to it's name. Now it is launching attacks against PFC corps that won't pay them protection money. Proving that paying for Kane's "insurance" really only insures you won't get attacked by him and his alliance.

You mean when TP and STB were beaten by Imps and STB prime turned into reg's tolietbowl after which most of the old Imps left...

You mean when TP and STB were beaten by Imps and STB prime turned into reg's tolietbowl after which most of the old Imps left...

from the desk of Cubs:

" you miss the bigger picture. Yes the end result was SVER prime turning to ashes, but STB fielding TEAM, RND, ZION and other top talent NOT in IMPS at the time handed IMPS their first EVER loss in PC. and 2 other extremely narrow victories, the closest anyone had come to toppling the beasts that were IMPS.

this in turn led to the catapulting of TEAM, RND, and the rest of EoN to the forefront of PC, which allowed many more wars to unfold and lots of good times for all.

and no I wouldn't EVER say 'murder' imps. the match won was by 7 ticks, the 2 lost matches were by 2 ticks and the famed 0-0 match.

It showed everyone that ANYONE can win on any given day. even having the most talent doesn't necessarily translate into a win

and that KoNo is an absolute monster (akin to 'the Duke' from Boondock Saints) and that Jesse and Grimmiers, to this day are probably THE most underrated slayers of all time on this game'

-------------------------------------end transmission------------------------------------

reminiscing the good ole days when talent, skill and teamwork actually determined victories and not exploits.

Who are you again? becuase your always posting, but dont really know anything about what your talking about? I doubt you were even a merc in New Eden when the above occurred!. Makes you look a bit stupid TBH.

Thank you to Cubs Secretary for clearing a few things up, no we didn't 'murder' the imps, but it was enough. It was definitely a pin-ultimate point that turn the tide in TP/EONs favour.

The good ol' days indeed.

You... mean like... everyone else?

Let's give a few examples of someone who posts a bunch of bull **** and feels justified over it.

AE: We will never lock districts.

AE: We will police PFC.

AE: We're locking districts on CCP's holiday so that they can fix the game.

I wonder who from AE posted these things? Lol


Lol, meta. Meta is gone - I haven't seen meta in ages. It's all just **** talking to boost egos now.

PFC? Let's be real: We don't care - you don't care. You know who cares? The little guy. And that's where we all start caring - because we care about the little guy.

So let's shoot someone for doing something that both helps the little guy - and the parties involved in doing the actual 'helping' that'll show the community how progress should be made!

Who the fuck needs logic, anyways? MY ENEMIES ARE MAKING ISK - BURN EVERYTHING DOWN! lolol

from the desk of Cubs:

Second, you're absolutely right it is removing riffraff from PFC. You want to allow yourself to sleep at night saying we are targeting those that don't want to pay? Well you are absolutely right!! ...

Its just like training a dog. When your pet doesn't listen, do you sit there and just talk to it and expect it to understand what you're saying and thus alter its behavior to abide by the 'laws' you are imposing upon it? No, dogs are semi-intelligent dumb animals, with personality.

At least you are honorable enough to admit that Kane is running a protection racket, if you don't pay Kane's fees you get attacked or put down just like a dog.

I'm sure that explains while the AE alt corp Gods Among Men is actively trying to flip a PFC district. Under AE rule of PFC district locking prevailed and corps that had no desire to participate in PFC set up shop on the planet. Now that NF has flipped districts owned by AE to fill contracts (please see: example A , example B, example C ) I understand that you would like to retaliate in any way you can.

I find it unfortunate that you would turn your gaze to disrupting PFC when the members of the planet will finally be the ones who set the rules and a financial model is in place that allows them to be confident in their unified defense and enforcement of the rules rather than hopes and well-wishes.

As it stands now the majority of the members on PFC are participating in the council and are in the process of tackling the many issues that PFC faces in regards with rules and regulations. It will take time for the system to be running at full steam but I'm confident that in time PFC will reach a level of operation that many would have only hoped for.

It is unfortunate that some of the current occupants are either too short-sighted or unable to comprehend the financial model at the crux of the PFC council and its enforcement. The system is designed to be mutually beneficial to all parties and allow PFC members to rule their own day-to-day affairs. As it stands right now the expenses that have included negotiating the peaceful egress of members off PFC that were not present for PFC and the removal of district lockers has far exceeded any income. At this time bringing order to PFC and establishing the PFC council is a net loss as was originally expected and projected.

Personally, I receive no payment or funds from my help with PFC as all income is used to cover expenses including hiring ringers, paying for Eve support, and helping cover clone pack costs to resettle a member who has lost their district illegally should the need arise. As the PFC Council progresses and PFC is brought to order any excess funds will be placed in escrow to insure funds are available when PFC needs them most.

Sorry but your information is incorrect my brother and I started this corp with people from various alliances mostly friends of ours, but we do hire ringers OH, AE, FA and Capital Acquisition alike. You just need a reason, an excuse to attack someone. In all fairness your trying to justify attacking a young corp while alienating AE a good plan but its dishonest to the community and unbecoming of a CPM. Come to think of it my brother and I are the only ones in our corp who have any affiliation with AE whatsoever.