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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:28:00 -
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Will ring for Free good results not guarnteed. Will fight NF if reimbursed 1 mill before the match... will not fight ERA, My ****** ringer service will be able though to summon a coalition of NF, AE, OH and FA, so no matter who you fight you'll get a crutch.
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Killar-12
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Posted - 2014.02.11 05:35:00 -
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Spartan MK420 wrote:PFC deserves to burn as a whole. Especially the ones foolish enough to have agreed to pay the "extortion rates". Like every DL district... ever...
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.11 17:14:00 -
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DJINN Kujo wrote:We made a vouch to never take out PFC or make people pay taxes, it's all stupid if you ask me. Sounds like NF needs funds. Whomever is on PFC and want to counter it, you should collaborate. Because managing PFC costs 0 ISK... smh
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.12 05:09:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Athena Dare wrote:Kain Spero wrote: BLAH BS BLAH MORE BS BLAH... with PFC as all income is used to cover expenses including hiring ringers, paying for Eve support, and helping cover clone pack costs to resettle a member who has lost their district illegally should the need arise. As the PFC Council progresses and PFC is brought to order any excess funds will be placed in escrow to insure funds are available when PFC needs them most. Nice speech you running for office again? Seriously, you are so full of it. You attacked and took a district from Subsonic Synthesis, just because they wouldn't pay you. They have had that district since before Christmas, and were on the "PFC council". You have a fight against Granite Mercenary Division tonight, with plans on taking their district tonight just because they also wouldn't pay your ridiculous fees. You need ISK dust side and are using PFC to get it. You have no idea how wrong your intel is. Granite's district is under ERA's control... OH WAIT, IT ISN'T!
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.12 05:39:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:I'm afraid I've got to back Kane on this one. Policing PFC is hell. And I've said this multiple times, I wouldn't touch that land without payment. It doesn't need to be touched by an outer entity That's impossible and you know it too, there will always be **** going on, anyways what is an outside entity other than a vague term?
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.12 13:56:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote: Same thing happend when STB fielded TP to murder the imps...
You mean when TP and STB were beaten by Imps and STB prime turned into reg's tolietbowl after which most of the old Imps left...
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.12 20:21:00 -
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Cubs Secretary wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Guinevere Bravo wrote: Same thing happend when STB fielded TP to murder the imps...
You mean when TP and STB were beaten by Imps and STB prime turned into reg's tolietbowl after which most of the old Imps left... from the desk of Cubs: " you miss the bigger picture. Yes the end result was SVER prime turning to ashes, but STB fielding TEAM, RND, ZION and other top talent NOT in IMPS at the time handed IMPS their first EVER loss in PC. and 2 other extremely narrow victories, the closest anyone had come to toppling the beasts that were IMPS. this in turn led to the catapulting of TEAM, RND, and the rest of EoN to the forefront of PC, which allowed many more wars to unfold and lots of good times for all. and no I wouldn't EVER say 'murder' imps. the match won was by 7 ticks, the 2 lost matches were by 2 ticks and the famed 0-0 match. It showed everyone that ANYONE can win on any given day. even having the most talent doesn't necessarily translate into a win and that KoNo is an absolute monster (akin to 'the Duke' from Boondock Saints) and that Jesse and Grimmiers, to this day are probably THE most underrated slayers of all time on this game' -------------------------------------end transmission------------------------------------ reminiscing the good ole days when talent, skill and teamwork actually determined victories and not exploits. Agreed was trying to farm likes for bashing STB...
I see your point though
PS ZION and Talent in the same sentence. what? there's talent in Zion? Aside from Adapt and Kill I've never seen any ZTCD that impresses me when fighting a serious threat, damn gal logi with a MD...
I mean RND and TP
Grimmers I wouldn't say is underrated, it's the wrong word I think he isn't very well known, those who know him know that he is very good.
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Killar-12
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Posted - 2014.02.12 20:32:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Guinevere Bravo wrote: Same thing happened when STB fielded TP to murder the imps...
You mean when TP and STB were beaten by Imps and STB prime turned into reg's tolietbowl after which most of the old Imps left... Who are you again? becuase your always posting, but dont really know anything about what your talking about? I doubt you were even a merc in New Eden when the above occurred!. Makes you look a bit stupid TBH. Thank you to Cubs Secretary for clearing a few things up, no we didn't 'murder' the imps, but it was enough. It was definitely a pin-ultimate point that turn the tide in TP/EONs favour. The good ol' days indeed. I'm nobody... but I know my corp's leadership isn't corrupt, I know that drama hasn't faced me, I know that STB always bandwagons and then loses STB prime, I know that when serious matches come you hire ringers. I am not important what I know is. I know one thing for sure STB DIDN'T win those battles EoN. did.
I was a merc at the time I've been around since Open Beta, was doing a little ringing for Zion vs Pro Hic around then if I remember correctly
You say we a lot but every video I see I see +50% ringers in those matches
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.17 14:10:00 -
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Stiddlefaxq wrote:Not in charge. But I have an answer and my own question.
Either zero or maybe one or two.
Why is that?
PFC has had many problems since it was first conceived. Originally it was made with the purpose of being a "leave the politics at the door" brawl zone for the larger corps. You can see how our notion of "graduating" does not apply to this timeframe
After, when it became clear that it wasn't going to be used in this manner, it was repurposed towards what it is supposed to be today. In TP we tried to get it to work right, but it never quite got there. A few problems kept it from becoming what we hoped it would be.
1. Neglect. Controlling 80+ districts and having no real incentive besides playing sheriff, we only really had time to do defenses and removals when we were not busy. We were unable to keep good intel on who was using the district as intended and our ability to keep it running suffered. DDB had enough of its own problems to deal with as well, and AE just don't care.
Outside forces will always have a hard time keeping up with what is actually going on the planet. The PFC/Protector format will alleviate this. It splits the job(THIS IS WORK, Don't kid yourself) in half.
As a result of #1. 2. Corps on PFC not using the district as intended. Includes district lockers, farmers, using the area as a beachhead, etc. A great many corps that have been involved on PFC have just used it to farm isk. They had no intention of getting better or anything like that. Because of this, the planet has never run at anything more than 50% efficiency.
3. Fear of outside threat. The corps on PFC paid good money (or illegally seized a district) to get there. Using the district as intended could have lead to an opportunistic attack from someone like Men in BLACK OPS on a low clone district. This fear and uncertainty may have caused an already low usage rate to fall even lower.
As a result of #2 and #3. 4. Few potential opponents. It Is hard to get a good feel for PFC if you just played one person all the time. If all you ever played was Pro Hic, you would think that PC was all just mass drivers and roof tops. Solid tactics aren't well learned from few sources.
5. No graduation timeframe . No incentive to leave PFC (or disincentive to stay). Incentive makes the world go round. If PFC is to succeed, I ask the PFC council to make hard guidelines/rules for people to eventually move off. Solid Posts may have returned...
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