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Text Grant
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.08 04:58:00 -
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Turrets are supposed to be Rail gun kills tanks Blaster cannon kills infantry Missile launcher middle ground But a blaster can run circles around a rail gun and kill him in close combat. Now I say that since blaster cannons can mow down infantry as effectively as they can there should be a downside to them. So my proposal is, make blaster cannons do 50% damage to tanks since it is NOT an AV weapon. Other non AV weapons only do 10% damage so this is actually not asking for much. |

Dunce Masterson
Savage Bullet
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Posted - 2014.02.08 05:34:00 -
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its your fault for letting the blaster tank that close to you. |

Text Grant
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.08 05:40:00 -
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Dunce Masterson wrote:its your fault for letting the blaster tank that close to you. It's your fault for being born. Now try some logic and I may take you seriously. |

Twelve Guage
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.08 05:50:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:Dunce Masterson wrote:its your fault for letting the blaster tank that close to you. It's your fault for being born. Now try some logic and I may take you seriously. The bite text tone it down just a bit. Actually I don't see a problem with this if blaster tanks are actually meant to just mowed down soldiers.
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Text Grant
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.08 05:54:00 -
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Twelve Guage wrote:Text Grant wrote:Dunce Masterson wrote:its your fault for letting the blaster tank that close to you. It's your fault for being born. Now try some logic and I may take you seriously. The bite text tone it down just a bit.  Actually I don't see a problem with this if blaster tanks are actually meant to just mowed down soldiers. He just suggested that rail tanks stay in the redline all match. Of course I said it was stupid. BTW I think conflig would support it. |

Twelve Guage
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.08 06:00:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:Text Grant wrote:Dunce Masterson wrote:its your fault for letting the blaster tank that close to you. It's your fault for being born. Now try some logic and I may take you seriously. The bite text tone it down just a bit.  Actually I don't see a problem with this if blaster tanks are actually meant to just mowed down soldiers. He just suggested that rail tanks stay in the redline all match. Of course I said it was stupid. BTW I think conflig would support it. I know he would but still don't feed the trolls.
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xSir Campsalotx
G0DS AM0NG MEN
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Posted - 2014.02.08 08:03:00 -
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Lol you got beat by a blaster, were there more than one? It's skill based anyways in a straight fight blaster loses to rails, this mean the guy that got you out maneuvered you and is at least a decent tanker. Sry for the lol  |

843 nerfnut96
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.02.08 08:06:00 -
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You don't have to stay in the redline, you just have to stay back a little bit and keep an eye on your surroundings and you'll beat a blaster 99.99% of the time.
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X7 lion
Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.08 10:55:00 -
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a railguns fighting power comes at its range advantage, the blaster is a high damage per second close quarters combat (vehicle) weapon what your complaining about is not broken you just playing poorly & not using your ability's to your advantage.
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Starfire Revo
DUST University Ivy League
177
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:32:00 -
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Been driving rail tanks a lot of the past couple months. Only times I lose to a blaster tank is when I'm at a serious disadvantage. This is normally in the form of them having a more expensive tank, getting caught out of position (or on reload) or they use cooldowns.
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VALCORE72
NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS
44
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Posted - 2014.02.08 13:02:00 -
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large blasters should have never been in this game lol you doing see ppl turning the 50cal into a mega 50cal lol just my 2 cents |

Text Grant
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.09 04:01:00 -
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X7 lion wrote:a railguns fighting power comes at its range advantage, the blaster is a high damage per second close quarters combat (vehicle) weapon what your complaining about is not broken you just playing poorly & not using your ability's to your advantage. No it's not. The blaster is specifically for anti infantry and you are one of the many exploiting the broken mechanic |

Text Grant
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.09 04:03:00 -
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Starfire Revo wrote:Been driving rail tanks a lot of the past couple months. Only times I lose to a blaster tank is when I'm at a serious disadvantage. This is normally in the form of them having a more expensive tank, getting caught out of position (or on reload) or they use cooldowns. Not the point |

Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
902
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Posted - 2014.02.09 04:18:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:Starfire Revo wrote:Been driving rail tanks a lot of the past couple months. Only times I lose to a blaster tank is when I'm at a serious disadvantage. This is normally in the form of them having a more expensive tank, getting caught out of position (or on reload) or they use cooldowns. Not the point
The point is that you played poorly and lost. that doesn't make what you lost to OP.
Blasters: short range, wrecks shields. Missiles: medium range, wrecks armor. Railguns: long range, wrecks both.
You tried to take a long range weapon into close range, and tanks don't work like rifles where you're equally effective outside your designed combat range. Railguns are meant to stay back and hammer targets from range. Blasters are the brawler's weapon, get in and keep putting shots in them until they die. the missile is... complicated it can take out just about anything it comes against in extremely short order, but suffers from a cripplingly short clip and accuracy issues when fired full auto.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
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Posted - 2014.02.09 04:22:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:X7 lion wrote:a railguns fighting power comes at its range advantage, the blaster is a high damage per second close quarters combat (vehicle) weapon what your complaining about is not broken you just playing poorly & not using your ability's to your advantage. No it's not. The blaster is specifically for anti infantry and you are one of the many exploiting the broken mechanic
LOL no. The blaster is a gallentean wealon. all gallentean weapons have low range, but high close up damage. the railgun is a high range gun. the blaster WAS NOT meant for infantry only. if it was, im sure it would be a bit less deadly. as of right now the blaster can kill a player in 3-4 shots. NO GUN mounted on a tank is anti infantry only. its either a little bit of both, or anti vehcle. the only thing in this game that is infantry only is other infantry. in 9/10 casez, the railgun wins anyways, so its not really a broken mechanic if its not really an effective one. |

Text Grant
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
329
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Posted - 2014.02.09 04:28:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Text Grant wrote:Starfire Revo wrote:Been driving rail tanks a lot of the past couple months. Only times I lose to a blaster tank is when I'm at a serious disadvantage. This is normally in the form of them having a more expensive tank, getting caught out of position (or on reload) or they use cooldowns. Not the point The point is that you played poorly and lost. that doesn't make what you lost to OP. Blasters: short range, wrecks shields. Missiles: medium range, wrecks armor. Railguns: long range, wrecks both. You tried to take a long range weapon into close range, and tanks don't work like rifles where you're equally effective outside your designed combat range. Railguns are meant to stay back and hammer targets from range. Blasters are the brawler's weapon, get in and keep putting shots in them until they die. the missile is... complicated it can take out just about anything it comes against in extremely short order, but suffers from a cripplingly short clip and accuracy issues when fired full auto. The intent of the blaster cannon is to be anti infantry. That is why it tracks so fast and fires so rapidly. If it is meant to be a brawler tank then it should be given a lower rate of fire and higher damage per round with less ammo. So it can't mow down infantry. But either way it is OP as there is no downside to using a blaster tank as opposed to a rail or missile tank. |

Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
902
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Posted - 2014.02.09 04:37:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:Text Grant wrote:Starfire Revo wrote:Been driving rail tanks a lot of the past couple months. Only times I lose to a blaster tank is when I'm at a serious disadvantage. This is normally in the form of them having a more expensive tank, getting caught out of position (or on reload) or they use cooldowns. Not the point The point is that you played poorly and lost. that doesn't make what you lost to OP. Blasters: short range, wrecks shields. Missiles: medium range, wrecks armor. Railguns: long range, wrecks both. You tried to take a long range weapon into close range, and tanks don't work like rifles where you're equally effective outside your designed combat range. Railguns are meant to stay back and hammer targets from range. Blasters are the brawler's weapon, get in and keep putting shots in them until they die. the missile is... complicated it can take out just about anything it comes against in extremely short order, but suffers from a cripplingly short clip and accuracy issues when fired full auto. The intent of the blaster cannon is to be anti infantry. That is why it tracks so fast and fires so rapidly. If it is meant to be a brawler tank then it should be given a lower rate of fire and higher damage per round with less ammo. So it can't mow down infantry. But either way it is OP as there is no downside to using a blaster tank as opposed to a rail or missile tank.
Were you dropped on your head as a child? you have no range, you have the outright weakest damage for a tank's main gun, and your only saving grace is that armor tanking is meant to stay in place until your crappy DPS can kill whatever you fight.
YOU failed as a railgunner, suck it up, it happens to all of us, we get cocky and then we die. now, most of us have stopped bitching since 1.7 dropped and the only things that could kill us became other tanks.
You got outplayed, outgunned, and killed because you brought the wrong weapon to the fight. you brought a sniper rifle to a shotgun fight. learn from it instead of crying "BLASTER IS OP BECAUSE I WAS DUMB!"
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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Text Grant
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.09 04:48:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Text Grant wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:Text Grant wrote:Starfire Revo wrote:Been driving rail tanks a lot of the past couple months. Only times I lose to a blaster tank is when I'm at a serious disadvantage. This is normally in the form of them having a more expensive tank, getting caught out of position (or on reload) or they use cooldowns. Not the point The point is that you played poorly and lost. that doesn't make what you lost to OP. Blasters: short range, wrecks shields. Missiles: medium range, wrecks armor. Railguns: long range, wrecks both. You tried to take a long range weapon into close range, and tanks don't work like rifles where you're equally effective outside your designed combat range. Railguns are meant to stay back and hammer targets from range. Blasters are the brawler's weapon, get in and keep putting shots in them until they die. the missile is... complicated it can take out just about anything it comes against in extremely short order, but suffers from a cripplingly short clip and accuracy issues when fired full auto. The intent of the blaster cannon is to be anti infantry. That is why it tracks so fast and fires so rapidly. If it is meant to be a brawler tank then it should be given a lower rate of fire and higher damage per round with less ammo. So it can't mow down infantry. But either way it is OP as there is no downside to using a blaster tank as opposed to a rail or missile tank. Were you dropped on your head as a child? you have no range, you have the outright weakest damage for a tank's main gun, and your only saving grace is that armor tanking is meant to stay in place until your crappy DPS can kill whatever you fight. YOU failed as a railgunner, suck it up, it happens to all of us, we get cocky and then we die. now, most of us have stopped bitching since 1.7 dropped and the only things that could kill us became other tanks. You got outplayed, outgunned, and killed because you brought the wrong weapon to the fight. you brought a sniper rifle to a shotgun fight. learn from it instead of crying "BLASTER IS OP BECAUSE I WAS DUMB!" Troll. Logic is not your friend |

Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
902
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Posted - 2014.02.09 04:53:00 -
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Ah, you can't beat me, so you call me a troll. Guess that means blasters aren't op. Glad I could help you see the light. Now learn your weapon better.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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Glitch116
On The Brink CRONOS.
58
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Posted - 2014.02.09 05:09:00 -
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LOL now show me on the clone where my blaster maddies touched you Blasters are meant for AV ALL LARGE Turrets are that is the point of tanks i will not debate that vs infantry the blaster is OP that balance is messed up honestly lets be realistic here no one is going to be happy with a just AI large turret tankers will never use it because it will mean certain death vs other tanks and infantry will always hate as their main weapons are useless against it Blasters are meant to be close range high dps high tracking AV weapons however the problem is that same power that makes it great vs other tanks make it a ***** for infantry remeber blaster damage was reduced in 1.7 while rail guns where insanely buffed believe it or not blasters are HARDER to use for AV then Rails so any blaster tank that kills you simply out played you
I AM THE KING OF THE BLASTER!!!
deal with it
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Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
173
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Posted - 2014.02.09 07:09:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:Turrets are supposed to be Rail gun kills tanks Blaster cannon kills infantry Missile launcher middle ground But a blaster can run circles around a rail gun and kill him in close combat. Now I say that since blaster cannons can mow down infantry as effectively as they can there should be a downside to them. So my proposal is, make blaster cannons do 50% damage to tanks since it is NOT an AV weapon. Other non AV weapons only do 10% damage so this is actually not asking for much. I agree with them you played poorly also if you was in a shield tank the blaster would have the upper hand as blasters are strong against shields and i've taken on a maddy which is armor tank with a proto blaster head on with his railgun and still won even though the blaster is weak against armor it's about your fitting and how well you use it |

Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
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Posted - 2014.02.09 07:11:00 -
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Glitch116 wrote:LOL now show me on the clone where my blaster maddies touched you Blasters are meant for AV ALL LARGE Turrets are that is the point of tanks i will not debate that vs infantry the blaster is OP that balance is messed up honestly lets be realistic here no one is going to be happy with a just AI large turret tankers will never use it because it will mean certain death vs other tanks and infantry will always hate as their main weapons are useless against it Blasters are meant to be close range high dps high tracking AV weapons however the problem is that same power that makes it great vs other tanks make it a ***** for infantry remeber blaster damage was reduced in 1.7 while rail guns where insanely buffed believe it or not blasters are HARDER to use for AV then Rails so any blaster tank that kills you simply out played you Railguns wasn't buff if anything they weaker than before |

Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
150
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Posted - 2014.02.09 11:56:00 -
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blaster cannon is typical to gallente desgin of being shoirt range in your face powerhousing dps/shots. the blaster is literally meant to screw over infanty/vehicles. only strugglees vs railguns due to rilgin ridiculos alpha and re-fire rate. |

Glitch116
On The Brink CRONOS.
58
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Posted - 2014.02.09 15:37:00 -
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Tailss Prower wrote:Glitch116 wrote:LOL now show me on the clone where my blaster maddies touched you Blasters are meant for AV ALL LARGE Turrets are that is the point of tanks i will not debate that vs infantry the blaster is OP that balance is messed up honestly lets be realistic here no one is going to be happy with a just AI large turret tankers will never use it because it will mean certain death vs other tanks and infantry will always hate as their main weapons are useless against it Blasters are meant to be close range high dps high tracking AV weapons however the problem is that same power that makes it great vs other tanks make it a ***** for infantry remeber blaster damage was reduced in 1.7 while rail guns where insanely buffed believe it or not blasters are HARDER to use for AV then Rails so any blaster tank that kills you simply out played you Railguns wasn't buff if anything they weaker than before
the compressed rail was the most powerful pre 1.7 and it only did 1700 damage and overheated after only 3 shots at proto lvl now it does over 1800 and can fire 6 shot before overheat rails got close to 100 to 200 increase in damage at all lvls as well as had their heat build up cut in half sounds thats i big buff
I AM THE KING OF THE BLASTER!!!
deal with it
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Harpyja
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1151
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Posted - 2014.02.09 15:51:00 -
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The way that you have it put as "missiles are middle ground," I think you're wrong and they shouldn't be middle ground. I see missiles as the CQC challenger of the railgun. I think both turrets kill infantry just as easily once you know how to use them.
But the railgun is OP in the fact that it does too good of a job at CQC. The only way to take out a railgun tank is with another railgun tank, and that by itself implies that it's OP. A railgun tank, regardless if it's shield or armor, should go down to a missile tank at CQC, while the railgun tank still holds the upper hand at range.
Blasters are fine. You're infantry, you can hide in buildings and evade the blaster tank. I haven't been killed by a single blaster since 1.7 whenever I run infantry on my main or on my alt.
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Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1896
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Posted - 2014.02.09 15:52:00 -
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a rail tanker who loses to a blaster sucks. stop sucking and htfu.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2014.02.09 18:40:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:Turrets are supposed to be Rail gun kills tanks Blaster cannon kills infantry Missile launcher middle ground But a blaster can run circles around a rail gun and kill him in close combat. Now I say that since blaster cannons can mow down infantry as effectively as they can there should be a downside to them. So my proposal is, make blaster cannons do 50% damage to tanks since it is NOT an AV weapon. Other non AV weapons only do 10% damage so this is actually not asking for much.
If as a Railgun you let a Blaster come near you it's your fault. A blaster can't do anything to an ennemy tank after 50 meters.
But i understand what you're saying and i agree. Maybe 10% less but not 50%. |

Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
430
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Posted - 2014.02.09 18:41:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:a rail tanker who loses to a blaster sucks. stop sucking and htfu.
If the blaster comes near to the Rail (by surprise or just by speed behind something) the Rail has no chance to win. |
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