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R F Gyro Clones 4u 1104	Posted - 2014.02.07 10:54:00 - [1] - Quote Yes, this is all generalisation, and yes, of course squads will need to adapt to the situation at hand and the preferences of the squad leader and members. But what would a good default infantry squad composition be? Here's a straw-man to kick things off... 1. Anchor - HMG Heavy or similar tanky DPS machine 2. Logi support, running behind and to the side of the anchor, with a rep tool, injector & hives 3. Left flank, generally assault, running ahead and to the left of the anchor 4. Right flank, also generally assault, running ahead and to the right of the anchor 5. Scout, running well ahead of the anchor 6. Squad support, running behind the anchor with a stand-off weapon such as mass driver The anchor would advance straight up the middle, looking fierce and trying to hold the attention of the enemy, with the logi supporting him. While the enemy is focussed on the anchor, the assaults open fire from both flanks to do the bulk of the killing, with the scout engaging them from behind and the squad support lobbing MD rounds into them as well. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6750	Posted - 2014.02.07 10:55:00 - [2] - Quote 6 Commandos Nuff said. Able to respond to any threat with a massive assortment of weapons and equipment, high base HP, badass looking.....what more could you ask for? "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 647	Posted - 2014.02.07 10:58:00 - [3] - Quote 1 Medic 1 Crowd Control 1 Pocket 1 Roamer 2 Utilities, usually both Scouts Selling dust codes!
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1105	Posted - 2014.02.07 10:59:00 - [4] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: 1 Medic 1 Crowd Control 1 Pocket 1 Roamer 2 Utilities, usually both Scouts Interesting terminology. What does it all mean? RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1105	Posted - 2014.02.07 11:00:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: 6 Commandos Nuff said. Able to respond to any threat with a massive assortment of weapons and equipment, high base HP, badass looking.....what more could you ask for? Nerf-proofing RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 724	Posted - 2014.02.07 11:00:00 - [6] - Quote 1: 40mil sp 2: 40mil sp 3: 40mil sp 4: 40mil sp 5: 40mil sp 6: 40mil sp Winning! compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6750	Posted - 2014.02.07 11:00:00 - [7] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: True Adamance wrote: 6 Commandos Nuff said. Able to respond to any threat with a massive assortment of weapons and equipment, high base HP, badass looking.....what more could you ask for? Nerf-proofing 1.7 Commando's.....not scary 1.8 Commando's....******* scary. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Rogue Saint Science For Death 764	Posted - 2014.02.07 11:06:00 - [8] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Yes, this is all generalisation, and yes, of course squads will need to adapt to the situation at hand and the preferences of the squad leader and members. But what would a good default infantry squad composition be? Here's a straw-man to kick things off... 1. Anchor - HMG Heavy or similar tanky DPS machine 2. Logi support, running behind and to the side of the anchor, with a rep tool, injector & hives 3. Left flank, generally assault, running ahead and to the left of the anchor 4. Right flank, also generally assault, running ahead and to the right of the anchor 5. Scout, running well ahead of the anchor 6. Squad support, running behind the anchor with a stand-off weapon such as mass driver The anchor would advance straight up the middle, looking fierce and trying to hold the attention of the enemy, with the logi supporting him. While the enemy is focussed on the anchor, the assaults open fire from both flanks to do the bulk of the killing, with the scout engaging them from behind and the squad support lobbing MD rounds into them as well. We often talk about this sort of stuff in corp, usually around the fabled PvE. Most (if not all) RPG MMO's require a balanced squad composition, but since dust allows people to do anything with their suits you end up with all sorts in the squad. Sure, PvE is different to PvP, but the squad setup shouldn't be too different to what you describe. GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Causes headaches, it's official +1 for Infantry Skills Refund in 1.8 or I win DUST514
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 647	Posted - 2014.02.07 11:08:00 - [9] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: SponkSponkSponk wrote: 1 Medic 1 Crowd Control 1 Pocket 1 Roamer 2 Utilities, usually both Scouts Interesting terminology. What does it all mean? It's TF2 comp slang. crowd control handles choke points and area denial. Pocket = medic + whoever's charged with defending him. The pocket always gets the blue donut. Roamer = offensive muscle, backup pocket, suicidal picker. Occasionally even uses shotguns. Utilities = flankers, hackers, uplinks, scanners, cleanup crew for wounded targets etc. Selling dust codes!
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1105	Posted - 2014.02.07 11:09:00 - [10] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: 1: 40mil sp 2: 40mil sp 3: 40mil sp 4: 40mil sp 5: 40mil sp 6: 40mil sp Winning! Wouldn't that squad of random 40m vets get murdered by a squad of 20m vets with a well planned composition? RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus

R F Gyro Clones 4u 1105	Posted - 2014.02.07 11:11:00 - [11] - Quote True Adamance wrote: R F Gyro wrote: True Adamance wrote: 6 Commandos Nuff said. Able to respond to any threat with a massive assortment of weapons and equipment, high base HP, badass looking.....what more could you ask for? Nerf-proofing 1.7 Commando's.....not scary 1.8 Commando's....******* scary. 1.9 nerfed to oblivion, crying in the corner RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3984	Posted - 2014.02.07 11:12:00 - [12] - Quote Two Assaults One Logi Scout Two Heavies My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1105	Posted - 2014.02.07 11:13:00 - [13] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Two Assaults One Logi One Scout One Heavy That pretty much matches my strawman, so no arguments there RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1105	Posted - 2014.02.07 11:15:00 - [14] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: Pocket = medic + whoever's charged with defending him. The pocket always gets the blue donut. This is interesting. Does anyone assign a squad member to defend their logi in Dust? Or are Dust logis more self-sufficient than TF medics? RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 147	Posted - 2014.02.07 11:21:00 - [15] - Quote time for a troll post. 3 ion cannon fitted madruagrs. 3 particle cannon fittied gunnlogis
zibathy numbertwo Nox Aeterna Security 430	Posted - 2014.02.07 11:22:00 - [16] - Quote A single squad can't truly be all purpose without switching fits... but... Heavy for Crowd Control and soaking damage and attention; Offensive Logi with that duo rep thing for Survivability + Nanos; Defensive Assault (Slayer) for Infantry Offense/Defending logi and weaker offensive units; Defensive+Offensive Assault AV (AV Grenades + Rifle) for some AV plus Anti-Infantry; Defensive Assault dedicated AV (Swarm+AV nades); Defensive Scout Combat Sniper; moving up and sniping. Scouting AND sniping - mid-range sniping. Main purpose being suppressive fire and spotting enemy snipers. Mostly Offensive. AR Dmg: 34, RoF: 750 RPM, DPS: 425, RR Dmg: 55, RoF: 461 RPM, DPS: 422, + double the range. Balanced.
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 1039	Posted - 2014.02.07 11:32:00 - [17] - Quote My ideal squad composition would be this: Very fast Scout with Nova Knifes and biotic modules to be a ninja An extremely well dampened Scout to be the most annoying ******* ever by sneaking behind enemies and shooting them in the back A range and precision enhancer stacked Scout meant to show every single person on the map An offensive Scout with codebreakers to hack all the things A sniper Scout to countersnipe other snipers and suppress everyone on the battlefield And a Scout with a repair tool to keep the other scouts alive. Is this viable? Probably not. Is it going to be the most annoying squad composition in existence? Most likely. Is it going to be a ton of fun? Heck yes. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 29th
Akdhar Saif Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 231	Posted - 2014.02.07 11:33:00 - [18] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: My ideal squad composition would be this: Very fast Scout with Nova Knifes and biotic modules to be a ninja An extremely well dampened Scout to be the most annoying ******* ever by sneaking behind enemies and shooting them in the back A range and precision enhancer stacked Scout meant to show every single person on the map An offensive Scout with codebreakers to hack all the things A sniper Scout to countersnipe other snipers and suppress everyone on the battlefield And a Scout with a repair tool to keep the other scouts alive. Is this viable? Probably not. Is it going to be the most annoying squad composition in existence? Most likely. Is it going to be a ton of fun? Heck yes. Hmm, I need to train into scout.
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2208	Posted - 2014.02.07 11:44:00 - [19] - Quote Gallente Assault tanked out with damage mods and scanner + Minmatar Logi with core focused reps Trust me, it works. Maybe throw in a scout or assault with an injector to distract or for backup, a forge gunner/HMG to sit on objectives and to deal with tanks, and possibly another logi for uplink placement and to keep the heavy alive. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 173	Posted - 2014.02.07 11:52:00 - [20] - Quote Assault combat rifle Assault combat rifle Assault combat rifle Assault combat rifle Assault combat rifle Assault combat rifle

R F Gyro Clones 4u 1106	Posted - 2014.02.07 12:01:00 - [21] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: My ideal squad composition would be this: Very fast Scout with Nova Knifes and biotic modules to be a ninja An extremely well dampened Scout to be the most annoying ******* ever by sneaking behind enemies and shooting them in the back A range and precision enhancer stacked Scout meant to show every single person on the map An offensive Scout with codebreakers to hack all the things A sniper Scout to countersnipe other snipers and suppress everyone on the battlefield And a Scout with a repair tool to keep the other scouts alive. Is this viable? Probably not. Is it going to be the most annoying squad composition in existence? Most likely. Is it going to be a ton of fun? Heck yes. Lovely idea, sounds like a lot of fun, but not what I'd call a general purpose infantry squad. It would be cool to be able to say to your (initially general purpose) squad something like "OK, we're getting pummelled by those queue-syncinc proto scum, so lets switch to lolcsout composition" though. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1106	Posted - 2014.02.07 12:02:00 - [22] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: Assault combat rifle Assault combat rifle Assault combat rifle Assault combat rifle Assault combat rifle Assault combat rifle Not exactly nerf-proof. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1106	Posted - 2014.02.07 12:05:00 - [23] - Quote zibathy numbertwo wrote: A single squad can't truly be all purpose without switching fits... but... Heavy for Crowd Control and soaking damage and attention; Offensive Logi with that duo rep thing for Survivability + Nanos; Defensive Assault (Slayer) for Infantry Offense/Defending logi and weaker offensive units; Defensive+Offensive Assault AV (AV Grenades + Rifle) for some AV plus Anti-Infantry; Defensive Assault dedicated AV (Swarm+AV nades); Defensive Scout Combat Sniper; moving up and sniping. Scouting AND sniping - mid-range sniping. Main purpose being suppressive fire and spotting enemy snipers. Mostly Offensive. Yeah, given the current state of tanks I suspect more emphasis on AV is quite important. This isn't so far from my strawman composition though, with the dedicated AV acting in the team support role instead of using a mass driver. Hmmm... plasma cannon? RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 727	Posted - 2014.02.07 12:26:00 - [24] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: 1: 40mil sp 2: 40mil sp 3: 40mil sp 4: 40mil sp 5: 40mil sp 6: 40mil sp Winning! Wouldn't that squad of random 40m vets get murdered by a squad of 20m vets with a well planned composition? Chances are in the 40mil sqd there will be atleast 1 tanker couple heavys 1 scout and 6 "logis" compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1107	Posted - 2014.02.07 13:46:00 - [25] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: R F Gyro wrote: Wouldn't that squad of random 40m vets get murdered by a squad of 20m vets with a well planned composition? Chances are in the 40mil sqd there will be atleast 1 tanker couple heavys 1 scout and 6 "logis" lol RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1788	Posted - 2014.02.07 13:50:00 - [26] - Quote the only squad that murders me is 5 proto assaults and 1 logi. they tend to fight smart, use cover and flank, and you can't hope to match the fire power of 4-5 assaults, even if you bring 2 down the other 3 will get you and the logi will just pick them up. if you are lucky you can take one or two out with explosives but ya if they are good they won't fall for that. near impossible to fight as a lone wolf.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1168	Posted - 2014.02.07 14:00:00 - [27] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Yes, this is all generalisation, and yes, of course squads will need to adapt to the situation at hand and the preferences of the squad leader and members. But what would a good default infantry squad composition be? Here's a straw-man to kick things off... 1. Anchor - HMG Heavy or similar tanky DPS machine 2. Logi support, running behind and to the side of the anchor, with a rep tool, injector & hives 3. Left flank, generally assault, running ahead and to the left of the anchor 4. Right flank, also generally assault, running ahead and to the right of the anchor 5. Scout, running well ahead of the anchor 6. Squad support, running behind the anchor with a stand-off weapon such as mass driver The anchor would advance straight up the middle, looking fierce and trying to hold the attention of the enemy, with the logi supporting him. While the enemy is focussed on the anchor, the assaults open fire from both flanks to do the bulk of the killing, with the scout engaging them from behind and the squad support lobbing MD rounds into them as well. It would be a basic Marine fire team only with six instead of four ppl. Point man/scout Heavy machine gunner Squad leader with rifle or MD Rear guard (flanker) The two extra could be rear guard and extra point man. You rotate around the point man or the leader depending. Stay in a loose or tight staggered column while moving. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
xSir Campsalotx G0DS AM0NG MEN 108	Posted - 2014.02.07 14:37:00 - [28] - Quote Tanker Heavy Assualt x2 Logi x2
Yan Darn DUST University Ivy League 176	Posted - 2014.02.07 18:54:00 - [29] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: My ideal squad composition would be this: Very fast Scout with Nova Knifes and biotic modules to be a ninja An extremely well dampened Scout to be the most annoying ******* ever by sneaking behind enemies and shooting them in the back A range and precision enhancer stacked Scout meant to show every single person on the map An offensive Scout with codebreakers to hack all the things A sniper Scout to countersnipe other snipers and suppress everyone on the battlefield And a Scout with a repair tool to keep the other scouts alive. Is this viable? Probably not. Is it going to be the most annoying squad composition in existence? Most likely. Is it going to be a ton of fun? Heck yes. That would be amazing - give one a needle so another can play bait? 1.8 is going make scout squads OP completely balanced and viable. You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 2467	Posted - 2014.02.07 18:57:00 - [30] - Quote 2 Ass(Scanners) 1 Scout(Uplink) 1 Heavy 2 Logi(Nanite, Rep tool, other) Or proto anything x6 Buying EVE CE codes for Dust ISK Corp services

Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 870	Posted - 2014.02.07 19:17:00 - [31] - Quote i guess it all depends on the corp. we usually run heavy logi logi Ass Ass scout/heavy thats for when the map is more in the compound. for out in the open no cover maps: Ass Ass Ass logi logi logi YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Shiyou Hidiyoshi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 179	Posted - 2014.02.07 19:22:00 - [32] - Quote Healer Healer Thief Gladiator (Tank) Gladiator (Tank) Destruction Mage 02/05/whatever Peace made between psychopath Yoshi and CCP. You all get to live... for now... :P
Ku Shala Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 833	Posted - 2014.02.07 19:25:00 - [33] - Quote blueberry blueberry blueberry blueberry blueberry blueberry For what is right. For what is ours, Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Join us today! The States Necromancer For The State!
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 712	Posted - 2014.02.07 19:31:00 - [34] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: zibathy numbertwo wrote: A single squad can't truly be all purpose without switching fits... but... Heavy for Crowd Control and soaking damage and attention; Offensive Logi with that duo rep thing for Survivability + Nanos; Defensive Assault (Slayer) for Infantry Offense/Defending logi and weaker offensive units; Defensive+Offensive Assault AV (AV Grenades + Rifle) for some AV plus Anti-Infantry; Defensive Assault dedicated AV (Swarm+AV nades); Defensive Scout Combat Sniper; moving up and sniping. Scouting AND sniping - mid-range sniping. Main purpose being suppressive fire and spotting enemy snipers. Mostly Offensive. Yeah, given the current state of tanks I suspect more emphasis on AV is quite important. This isn't so far from my strawman composition though, with the dedicated AV acting in the team support role instead of using a mass driver. Hmmm... plasma cannon? Or keep swarms but turn the assault into a commando and hand him a MD. Now he can be AoD in any situation and against any type of enemy. Downside? No AV nades but then again the assault AV guy can fill in that gap if everyone is sticking together. I noticed that equipment wasn't emphasized in the setup. Could give the scout some RE's to further prepare yourself for tanks, give em a scanner to see the enemy coming, or throw on an uplink and he can place checkpoints. Assault AV guys also has opportunity to utilize RE's since the logi is already gonna be supplying the squad with Hives. Either way I gotta say....dangerous to go against these guys lol Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 199	Posted - 2014.02.07 19:35:00 - [35] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Yes, this is all generalisation, and yes, of course squads will need to adapt to the situation at hand and the preferences of the squad leader and members. But what would a good default infantry squad composition be? Here's a straw-man to kick things off... 1. Anchor - HMG Heavy or similar tanky DPS machine 2. Logi support, running behind and to the side of the anchor, with a rep tool, injector & hives 3. Left flank, generally assault, running ahead and to the left of the anchor 4. Right flank, also generally assault, running ahead and to the right of the anchor 5. Scout, running well ahead of the anchor 6. Squad support, running behind the anchor with a stand-off weapon such as mass driver The anchor would advance straight up the middle, looking fierce and trying to hold the attention of the enemy, with the logi supporting him. While the enemy is focussed on the anchor, the assaults open fire from both flanks to do the bulk of the killing, with the scout engaging them from behind and the squad support lobbing MD rounds into them as well. On the logi, lose the injector and go with at least a quantum active scanner. "...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1112	Posted - 2014.02.07 20:24:00 - [36] - Quote Logi Stician wrote: On the logi, lose the injector and go with at least a quantum active scanner. Proto logi doesn't need to make the choice :-) I would suggest that the squad has a scanner in there somewhere, but maybe not on the logi. Between them the squad members should have scanner, two injectors, nanohive, uplink and repair tool, but they should have enough slots for that. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 693	Posted - 2014.02.07 20:33:00 - [37] - Quote Commando with md/plc and rr/sniper Scout with passive scans/logi with quantum(can also be hacker) Assault (min or part speed tank gal) for flanking(can also be the hacker, but only if the intel person is a logi) Assault (cal, gal or amarr) built for mobile tank. Logi/heavy combo, a-la normal. Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) Selling SP: 10k SP per 100k ISK.
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3508	Posted - 2014.02.07 20:40:00 - [38] - Quote True Adamance wrote: 6 Commandos Nuff said. Able to respond to any threat with a massive assortment of weapons and equipment, high base HP, badass looking.....what more could you ask for? Took the words right out of my mouth Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // C.E.O of Alpha Response Command A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1847	Posted - 2014.02.07 20:43:00 - [39] - Quote 6 prototype assaults with 2 injectors, 1 uplink, 2 hives, and 1 flux repair tool. Armor and Shields are not the same!
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 904	Posted - 2014.02.07 20:50:00 - [40] - Quote 1 logi - packing rep tool, nano's - He is flying a dropship with missiles 1 Heavy - Forgegun - he is gunning on the dropshio 4 commandos, two with nanite injectors, one with a repper, one with nanohive for ammo, all have rifle of their choice and swarm launchers Perfect squad Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1

Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 697	Posted - 2014.02.07 20:59:00 - [41] - Quote Caldari Assault with a RR-Killer Gallente Logi with a AScR-Healer Commando with AR and CR-Killer Scout with a Shotgun-Crowd Control Sentinel with HMG-Tank DS pilot with ADS-Support/transport I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 1043	Posted - 2014.02.07 21:52:00 - [42] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: Denak Kalamari wrote: My ideal squad composition would be this: Very fast Scout with Nova Knifes and biotic modules to be a ninja An extremely well dampened Scout to be the most annoying ******* ever by sneaking behind enemies and shooting them in the back A range and precision enhancer stacked Scout meant to show every single person on the map An offensive Scout with codebreakers to hack all the things A sniper Scout to countersnipe other snipers and suppress everyone on the battlefield And a Scout with a repair tool to keep the other scouts alive. Is this viable? Probably not. Is it going to be the most annoying squad composition in existence? Most likely. Is it going to be a ton of fun? Heck yes. That would be amazing - give one a needle so another can play bait? 1.8 is going make scout squads OP completely balanced and viable. I suppose if this was the 1.8 build, the repair tool scout could also run a nanite injector and sacrifice the cloak, which would make him a miniature and ultra fast logi. But if not, I'd think the NK scout could run a needle to complement the repair tool scout. In any case, this was just a silly suggestions for a troll composition, not intended for serious combat. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 29th


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