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Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 0	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:03:00 - [1] - Quote As you all know people have been begging for a respec to come with the upcoming 1.8 patch. I thought I would share my veteran outlook on what a respec could do... First off there is a lot of good things a respec could do, such as....Bringing back old players who made bad decisions, help people who really like the LORE of EVE fight for their faction, and help people defend themselves from the proto stompers. Some of peoples concerns are that everyone will spec into the FOTM, and i get that, that has been a huge problem for a while. But i personally think a respec would be good, and I would definitely use it to spec into all Caldari suits even if they are crap. I think a full respec would be good but rather unlikely.....but a weapon and suits respec would still be okay, not hurting anyone...... What do you guys think? what are the pros and cons to having a respec? I never get on the forums to post, but today I made an exception cuz I know I made bad specing decisions and I have definetly paid the price...I currently only have around 15 mil isk (not a lot for a veteran) and cant afford going any higher than advance. At one point I though of just deleting my character and starting over, but it was hard and I was thinking about just deleting Dust, but Dust being Dust.... just wouldnt let me go So personally I say a respec would be great for me and a lot of people like me. stay cool mercs! Shout out to us Unholy Legion veterans.
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 246	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:17:00 - [2] - Quote ^this +1 Scr and commando enthusiast. ARC Commander "A closed mouth gathers no foot"
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1706	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:20:00 - [3] - Quote And you think people won't make a "bad decision" after another respec? Implying that it's possible to waste SP. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10475	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:20:00 - [4] - Quote Full infantry respec or bust. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1366	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:34:00 - [5] - Quote I've got about 30 mil SP and only slighty regret spending about 2 mil of it. If we don't get a respec I wont be upset, I've invested most my SP into dropsuit upgrade skills so I'll always find a use for it. On the other hand if they do give us a suit and weapon respect I'll likely go straight Gallente. My only problem with respecs is that if they have a clearly overpowered weapon or suit that everyone will jump on them like the CalLogi TAR days. I want them to balance everything before they hand out another respec. Most vets shouldn't need one, and new players don't benifit as much as vets do. My stance is I won't complain if they do it, assuming this is the last one, but with new racial vehicle come new vehicle rebalances as well, and unless that was a vehicle only respec, I'd rather wait until then for the final one. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4710	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:42:00 - [6] - Quote People already go for the FoTM... so I can't see how that's an argument to stop a respec "Oh Caldari is the best suit now! No problem, I'll get boosters and have a proto Caldari suit in no time" Same goes for weapons, but tbh, weapons are easier. I had almost all proto weapons before I stopped playing DUST. Didn't have proto scrambler pistols, swarm launchers... that's it. I'll have enough SP to get whatever the "best weapon" is right now if i wanted to play. So yea, how exactly is stopping a respec suppose to stop this FoTM trend? I don't know, maybe CCP balancing their game properly will fix that... no? Naaaaa ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Onesimus Tarsus 1035	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:46:00 - [7] - Quote I wish I had a stance on this issue. Free, on-demand Respecs. Because it doesn't matter and no one should care. Matchmaking by KDR proximity. :)
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 2675	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:51:00 - [8] - Quote +1 to the OP. This topic has been discussed and it seems like the largest group of ANTI-RESPEC folks come from Eve and bring that mentality here. The benefits of a respec far outweigh the negatives at this juncture. ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4711	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:53:00 - [9] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: +1 to the OP. This topic has been discussed and it seems like the largest group of ANTI-RESPEC folks come from Eve and bring that mentality here. The benefits of a respec far outweigh the negatives at this juncture. People been asking for respecs for how long now... I was asking for it so I could spec OUT of heavy and into a viable class that have more than 1 suit... guess I needed to HTFU because that wasn't a good enough reason ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 4	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:56:00 - [10] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: People already go for the FoTM... so I can't see how that's an argument to stop a respec "Oh Caldari is the best suit now! No problem, I'll get boosters and have a proto Caldari suit in no time" Same goes for weapons, but tbh, weapons are easier. I had almost all proto weapons before I stopped playing DUST. Didn't have proto scrambler pistols, swarm launchers... that's it. I'll have enough SP to get whatever the "best weapon" is right now if i wanted to play. So yea, how exactly is stopping a respec suppose to stop this FoTM trend? I don't know, maybe CCP balancing their game properly will fix that... no? Naaaaa Yes true but I think some people just seem like since everyone will have enough sp, youlle see people running aroun in the same fit but I do agree not much of an arguement like thor said Shout out to us Unholy Legion veterans.

Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 561	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:56:00 - [11] - Quote Dropsuit command should be refunded since they are giving us racial parity (Huzzah!) and changing existing suit skills radically. Dropsuit upgrades should be refunded, because you may be moving from logi to assault, and don't need skills in all the equipment. Or moving to a shield suit and won't be using those armor modules anymore. Or out of scout and so don't need profile dampening 5. Weapons should be refunded since certain suits are bonused with certain weapons, and it wouldn't make sense to give you a dropsuit command refund and not refund you weapon sp to get the maximum use out of your suit. Full infantry refund. I'm for it.
Appia Vibbia Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 875	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:58:00 - [12] - Quote I'm all for Dropsuit Command respec. Maybe weaponry, but I'm too biased about it because my swarms got nerfed and dropships just completely ignore flaylock rounds. There are supposed to be racial nova knives, racial pistol, racial SMGs. (we have 2 pistols now and 2 confirmed in 1.8, 1 smg and 1 more confirmed for 1.8) And since we have all the racial rifles out I kinda like the idea of a Weaponry respec just because it would improve the weapon diversity on the field. But again, too muh QQ'ing on my part about my nerfed weapons for me to count. Not in favor of a respec for dropsuit upgrades. You only want those points back because you want to optimize SP expenditures even though dropsuit upgrades 5 is the only way to waste SP in that tree. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 [email protected]
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10475	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:59:00 - [13] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: +1 to the OP. This topic has been discussed and it seems like the largest group of ANTI-RESPEC folks come from Eve and bring that mentality here. The benefits of a respec far outweigh the negatives at this juncture. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 5	Posted - 2014.01.31 19:59:00 - [14] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: And you think people won't make a "bad decision" after another respec? Implying that it's possible to waste SP. No people of couse will make bad decisions but now that there will be every suit it wont be as extreme I remember when I went to level 5 AR cuz it was the only good weapon and the only AR. but now a rail rifle and cobat rifle could take me and my AR down in seconds Shout out to us Unholy Legion veterans.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2498	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:00:00 - [15] - Quote Gimme Command and Weapons Respec CCP Upgrades would be nice, but not necessary, as those skills are almost never wasted. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
CRNWLLC Screwy Rabbit ULC 10	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:02:00 - [16] - Quote CRNWLLC was born at the end of last May, but I didn't really start playing Dust until 3 - 4 months ago. I'm sitting at about 12m SP and at this point know exactly how I like to play. A respec would be great for me because it would allow me to "clean up" my skillstrees--for example, I have two levels in Scrambler Pistol, 4 levels in ScR (with 2 - 4 in rapid reload and ammo, I think), one level in Minmatar scout, and Caldari suits to level 3 (no assault or logi levels though). I haven't really run and of that gear since I first minimally trained into them, so I'd basically move all those SP over to Gallente scout and Amarr logi, as they'd be more use to me there. Have you seen my baseball?
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising 82	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:04:00 - [17] - Quote Since all closed beta vets had a respec for uprising and got a SECOND respec complaining they didn't know what they were doing i cannot understand why now, with all of the suits and bonuses being reworked from the bottom up anyone would be against a respec. If it was merely new content, then no i would not want a repec. I'd just add the caldari (for example)scout to my adv heavy, proto minmatar logi, and adv gallente scout trifecta. I like adding new things to my collection. I have adv in all of the basic suits except minmatar scout, all of the assaults to level 1, and level 1 logis cuz its fun. But take my proto minmatar logi for example. Now he can no longer hack, has no passive regen, all of his equipment is nerfed because he is Minmatar. His rep tool bonus has to be proto just to get back to where it is now. 2.5 million i inested into him and CCP is going to take away every reason i spent 2.5 million into him on the advice of the CPM. So yeah i think they owe me beack my SP. Too bad they cant go back in time and give me back the month i spent grinding for him, but hey, thats CCP for you. I love my heavy suit but the only reason its amarr is because that was it. So sympathise with the heavies on that one. I'll probably spend post 1.8 collecting the suits like pokemon, but dammit CCP you screw with what people invested hours of thier lives into for a specific goal, the least you could do is give a respec. Also, i run tanks, so i remember how much the infantry was complaining about the well deserved vehicle respec. Now you get to have yours too. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Chris F2112 Pradox One Proficiency V. 542	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:06:00 - [18] - Quote My goodness. It's affect, not effect. The respec is not going to make the game come into existence. Sorry, it's just that I've had to correct tons of people on that.
Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 5	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:06:00 - [19] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Since all closed beta vets had a respec for uprising and got a SECOND respec complaining they didn't know what they were doing i cannot understand why now, with all of the suits and bonuses being reworked from the bottom up anyone would be against a respec. If it was merely new content, then no i would not want a repec. I'd just add the caldari (for example)scout to my adv heavy, proto minmatar logi, and adv gallente scout trifecta. I like adding new things to my collection. I have adv in all of the basic suits except minmatar scout, all of the assaults to level 1, and level 1 logis cuz its fun. But take my proto minmatar logi for example. Now he can no longer hack, has no passive regen, all of his equipment is nerfed because he is Minmatar. His rep tool bonus has to be proto just to get back to where it is now. 2.5 million i inested into him and CCP is going to take away every reason i spent 2.5 million into him on the advice of the CPM. So yeah i think they owe me beack my SP. Too bad they cant go back in time and give me back the month i spent grinding for him, but hey, thats CCP for you. I love my heavy suit but the only reason its amarr is because that was it. So sympathise with the heavies on that one. I'll probably spend post 1.8 collecting the suits like pokemon, but dammit CCP you screw with what people invested hours of thier lives into for a specific goal, the least you could do is give a respec. Also, i run tanks, so i remember how much the infantry was complaining about the well deserved vehicle respec. Now you get to have yours too. ^ definitely says a lot People have been saying for years... When we get all the racial suits out then we should get a full respec Shout out to us Unholy Legion veterans.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6274	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:08:00 - [20] - Quote People arguing FOTM, can you tell me what the FOTM will be in 1.8? Honestly most the problems with FOTM before were because there wasn't many options to choose from. Right now I here people saying scouts will be FOTM with cloaks, or Commandos with free damage mods, or Sentinels with all that resistance, quite frankly they all sound really good. And then you have all the racial choices. I just don't see any one particular FOTM becoming the dominant thing. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open

Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 6	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:08:00 - [21] - Quote Chris F2112 wrote: My goodness. It's affect, not effect. The respec is not going to make the game come into existence. Sorry, it's just that I've had to correct tons of people on that. oops my bad Shout out to us Unholy Legion veterans.
Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 6	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:13:00 - [22] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: People arguing FOTM, can you tell me what the FOTM will be in 1.8? Honestly most the problems with FOTM before were because there wasn't many options to choose from. Right now I here people saying scouts will be FOTM with cloaks, or Commandos with free damage mods, or Sentinels with all that resistance, quite frankly they all sound really good. And then you have all the racial choices. I just don't see any one particular FOTM becoming the dominant thing. yes I think with the new suits Dust will be a new game Shout out to us Unholy Legion veterans.
OZAROW Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 1320	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:22:00 - [23] - Quote After the last respec I spent my points wisely, and was very happy with minmatar scout, month later, strafe changes, endurance nerf, armor buff, op rifle ranges , scr, faylocks, mass drivers, spent the next 4 months going armor and gallente scout. Now I have both so who cares but, for about half a yr I cursed CCP every day an I don't wanna go through that BS again! SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 6	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:28:00 - [24] - Quote OZAROW wrote: After the last respec I spent my points wisely, and was very happy with minmatar scout, month later, strafe changes, endurance nerf, armor buff, op rifle ranges , scr, faylocks, mass drivers, spent the next 4 months going armor and gallente scout. Now I have both so who cares but, for about half a yr I cursed CCP every day an I don't wanna go through that BS again! Yes but some of us didnt spend it wisely and would want another opportunity to, plus a respec wouldnt hurt you...just spec into the same exact things CCP just give us one more chance to spec into the right things (our facton)!!!! We wont screw up this time Shout out to us Unholy Legion veterans.
Vance Vyth State Covenant AQ 60	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:31:00 - [25] - Quote A respec will breath new life into a dying game. That is all. (a¦ê+ä-£a¦ê) n++Gö¦pâçGòÉGÇö _ - (a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ) "60+"
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1707	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:37:00 - [26] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: +1 to the OP. This topic has been discussed and it seems like the largest group of ANTI-RESPEC folks come from Eve and bring that mentality here. The benefits of a respec far outweigh the negatives at this juncture. Tell me: What reason would the skillsystem have if people would get a respec every time they asked? Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10476	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:38:00 - [27] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: +1 to the OP. This topic has been discussed and it seems like the largest group of ANTI-RESPEC folks come from Eve and bring that mentality here. The benefits of a respec far outweigh the negatives at this juncture. Tell me: What reason would the skillsystem have if people would get a respec every time they asked? I've seen plenty of people asking for respecs all through the entire beta.....I have yet to see an on demand respec..... Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Tim Rapp Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 103	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:46:00 - [28] - Quote I think it should just be weapons and suits... the upgrades like others said help no matter what race you are
McFurious TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 591	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:49:00 - [29] - Quote They're finally adding the suits and weapons that should have been in the game on "release" day. Yes a respec is in order. In fact there should be another respec after they add the rest of the vehicles into the game that are supposed to be there already. It's only fair. The FOTM argument is irrelevant. If there's a FOTM, you're going to see a crapload of people using it regardless. Like in this build, there was no respec, but everyone is using tanks, RRs and CRs. Doesn't make one bit of difference. Half Irish. Often angry. Closed Beta Masshole Durka durka.... Bitch.
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 878	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:54:00 - [30] - Quote there is no current FOTM. this as an excuse not to allow a respec is pointless. yes everyone has made bad decisions in the past but that was mostly based on misleading skills or stat changes. with the new weapons and suits we are finally in a position to make informed choices on what skills we want or need. without a respec players in heavy suits for instance will be unbalanced. if they want to stay amarr then they will be stronger, if they want to go caldari then they will have to start from scratch. the current lack of gear forced people to spec into gear they didn't want just to fulfill a role they did want. its unfair to force them to abandoned all their sp in those roles to get what they want while others dont have to https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find

Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 7	Posted - 2014.01.31 20:56:00 - [31] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: +1 to the OP. This topic has been discussed and it seems like the largest group of ANTI-RESPEC folks come from Eve and bring that mentality here. The benefits of a respec far outweigh the negatives at this juncture. Tell me: What reason would the skillsystem have if people would get a respec every time they asked? Yes exactly This would be the last full respec..even if vehicle races do come we won't need one. But we should get a respec for suits that should have been here since open beta Shout out to us Unholy Legion veterans.
VALCORE72 NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 25	Posted - 2014.01.31 21:31:00 - [32] - Quote no to a full respec but weapons' suits and upgrades are needed . for me it was the hmg . dam thing was broke for months so i had to spec in to crap i really didnt want to. if there is i will do full minny . heavy 'assault mabe commando with cr .hmg .smg . fg . for weapons . while going back to max pg .cpu . kincats. shields.armor . instead of have shlt alover the place
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1806	Posted - 2014.01.31 21:35:00 - [33] - Quote Just give me my damn respec already New born sAMARRi
Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 8	Posted - 2014.01.31 22:56:00 - [34] - Quote VALCORE72 wrote: no to a full respec but weapons' suits and upgrades are needed . for me it was the hmg . dam thing was broke for months so i had to spec in to crap i really didnt want to. if there is i will do full minny . heavy 'assault mabe commando with cr .hmg .smg . fg . for weapons . while going back to max pg .cpu . kincats. shields.armor . instead of have shlt alover the place I feel u man......even though the hmg doesn't look that bad. (Have u seen Pyrex's videos lately) Shout out to us Unholy Legion veterans.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1162	Posted - 2014.01.31 23:14:00 - [35] - Quote no respecs, and use the search engine. there's about 1000 threads like this.
Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 8	Posted - 2014.01.31 23:22:00 - [36] - Quote low genius wrote: no respecs, and use the search engine. there's about 1000 threads like this. Yes respecs.... They won't hurt u any! And there's always enough room for another respec thread Shout out to us Unholy Legion veterans.
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 573	Posted - 2014.01.31 23:51:00 - [37] - Quote So some people will chase FOTM. Who freaking cares?
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 3860	Posted - 2014.02.01 00:23:00 - [38] - Quote If anything, we should only get a refund for the current light and heavy frame SP/skillbooks The people who would abuse respecs always outnumber those using them for the intended reason. Last time we got a full optional respec, very few of us (myself included) DIDN'T take it. This respec was because there was a slight error in skill descriptions- I highly doubt everyone messed up with it. This was also shortly after a mandatory respec- the only real reason everyone respecced shortly after the last one was because the FOTM changed. Shortly thereafter, everyone and their brother was a caldari logi. I am your scan error.
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 243	Posted - 2014.02.01 00:38:00 - [39] - Quote I am thinking about respeccing into my core skills and just sitting on the other 20million sp. I would have to grab skills that enhance the free suits like AR Prof V and ScP too. I am the real Darken
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 515	Posted - 2014.02.01 00:44:00 - [40] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: +1 to the OP. This topic has been discussed and it seems like the largest group of ANTI-RESPEC folks come from Eve and bring that mentality here. The benefits of a respec far outweigh the negatives at this juncture. Yup, EVE is a totally different game. A respec works in a FPS, as things tend to get rather stale shooting people in the face the same way, day in and day out. Nuff Said

Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 331	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:06:00 - [41] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: +1 to the OP. This topic has been discussed and it seems like the largest group of ANTI-RESPEC folks come from Eve and bring that mentality here. The benefits of a respec far outweigh the negatives at this juncture. Yup, EVE is a totally different game. A respec works in a FPS, as things tend to get rather stale shooting people in the face the same way, day in and day out. message from Godin: Considering that in EVE it's even less imput from the user in combat or otherwise, it's actually far more enjoyable to shoot someone in the foot. Actually, due to imbalance, respecs are far less likely to occur in a hardcore shooter. However, a full infantry respec is still needed for 1.8. Why a full one? Well, Commandos, Logi's, Assaults and Scouts have bonuses to do with skills in Dropsuit upgrades and weaponary that is greatly alter the performance of said weapon or equipment. If you're not using said items, you're frankly wasting your SP on an unoptimized fit, and nobody should be stuck with unoptimized fits due to changes CCP made. nerfs, sure. But to this extent, especially when adding sidearms and suit frames that should have been here honestly day 1, a full infantry respec should happen. Once the same thing happens for vehicles, one will probably need at least a turret op. and vehicle upgrades respec (due to the over simplified way the vehicle tree is now.).
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 407	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:11:00 - [42] - Quote DUST is not EVE anymore than World of Warcraft is Warcraft 3 or Hearthstone. They share the same universe but I don't think stating "EVE doesn't do respecs" is a little pointless. This game is far, far more Arcade like than EVE though still not nearly as much as most other FPS. Just the concept that the average player in DUST kills farrr more people in a single match than the average EVE player is involved in kills a week. The only refund that I know about in EVE is when Learning Skills went away. But that amounted to several million SP to EVERY single character. Just getting rid of it and saying "your time would have been better spent lighting your own farts" wouldn't have gone over well. So far, I have been involved in 2 full respecs and 1 partial refund. First was May 14th when the game officially released. The next was about two weeks later because CCP made several mistakes in the tree. In order to get Vehicle Shield Modules, you needed to skill both into Dropsuit Shields and Vehicle Shield Modules. Even worse is that Vehicle Engineering flat-out lied what it was supposed to do and CCP didn't do a great job explaining to the community what was happening with it. It read that it gave 5% PG per level. Great, so people obviously are going to max it because PG was a massive problem. It wasn't doing anything, CCP responded that "it is not currently working as intended but it is meant to so don't worry." Great, so everyone drops points into it. Well, it turns out that the skill instead made it takes less CPU to fit PG modules. In other words, nearly useless. That was a voluntary respec; "send message here for to get a respec." Finally, Vehicle Skills were refunded last patch. This shows that CCP is willing to give respecs and refunds when there are drastic changes. You add a Rail Rifle and a Combat Rifle, no change. You add 6 Heavy Suits, 2 Light Suits, tie Racial dropsuits and weapons together, and re-vamp what a logistics does (some would view to be more inline with what a support is meant to do), it seems to me that a refund for at least Dropsuit Commands and Weaponry is in order. Of course, if you walk that far, why not go one step further and refund all three Infantry Skill Trees. What happens when all racial dropships are released, an Amarr/Gallente Heavy weapon, a Caldari Heavy weapon meant for Infantry killing, a Caldari/Minmatar/Amarr 'Shotgun', or Amarr/Gallente/Minmatar Sniper Rifle? It certainly needs to happen since Assault/Commando get bonuses for using their racial weapons, so the only game in town for being a Sniper is Caldari. Do you just refund the skills put in those weapons to all those that send a ticket? Arguing that a respec shouldn't happen because of FOTM issues is like saying "the IRS shouldn't give tax refunds because people will spend the money on prostitutes and drugs."
Chesyre Armundsen Thanes Of Dust 402	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:16:00 - [43] - Quote My 2 cents is that I'm for a respec, but only to put those points into my racial suit counterparts. I just want my Gal Sentinel instead of the Amarr suit that I have to use. Mihi gravato Deus - "Let God lay the burden on me!"
Damian Crisis Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:22:00 - [44] - Quote i would like a respec for my original character but my original character is only like a week old but I already made crappy decisions. Mind you, as a newbie, I made and deleted a character like FIVE TIMES and by now I got the gist of it and happy with how I'm starting this character already. I'm no longer indecisive and know how to play my role, so I'm happy either or. I do hope for a respec though to make everyone happy. Popularity is not an attribute of a Scout, unless it's the afterlife.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 126	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:34:00 - [45] - Quote Respec shoul be essential part of every ugrade/patch. People mosty did good choices, just CCP somehow stomping on our decisions. And thats a reason, by my side. Yeah if someone made wrong decision its his fault (but he should have some way to reverse it either - once or twice), but this is still just one tear in CCPs sea of their decisions, their changes to our stuff and their implementations. Thats a reason why respec should be logic step for community by their side. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4262	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:40:00 - [46] - Quote OZAROW wrote: After the last respec I spent my points wisely, and was very happy with minmatar scout, month later, strafe changes, endurance nerf, armor buff, op rifle ranges , scr, faylocks, mass drivers, spent the next 4 months going armor and gallente scout. Now I have both so who cares but, for about half a yr I cursed CCP every day an I don't wanna go through that BS again! Same here.After the last respec i spent my SP wisely in MIN Scout.same as OZ. Then after the nerfs that made speed tanking almost useless i went BACK to my Amarr Assault Role. And now in 1.8 im even loosing the SCR HEAT SINK the suit has (main and ONLY reason to use amarr assault over any other assault). The history of getting F... over repeats itself over and over and over again... And this are mere 2 examples, out of t least 15 on how my 25 mill sp are wasted all over... AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4262	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:41:00 - [47] - Quote Vance Vyth wrote: A respec will breath new life into a dying game. That is all. This resumes all Respec threads. Well said Vance. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 409	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:44:00 - [48] - Quote Damian Crisis wrote: i would like a respec for my original character but my original character is only like a week old but I already made crappy decisions. Mind you, as a newbie, I made and deleted a character like FIVE TIMES and by now I got the gist of it and happy with how I'm starting this character already. I'm no longer indecisive and know how to play my role, so I'm happy either or. I do hope for a respec though to make everyone happy. Deleting a character is, generally, not the best way to go. The only reason I can think of to delete a character is if you have played less than a week and spent your 500,000 SP on things that are literally useless like Dropsuit Upgrades 5 or Dropsuit Command 4/5. Even if you put your points into turrets when you are a ground pounder, you may want to use vehicles later so those points are not wasted.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 128	Posted - 2014.02.01 01:55:00 - [49] - Quote Damian Crisis wrote: i would like a respec for my original character but my original character is only like a week old but I already made crappy decisions. Mind you, as a newbie, I made and deleted a character like FIVE TIMES and by now I got the gist of it and happy with how I'm starting this character already. I'm no longer indecisive and know how to play my role, so I'm happy either or. I do hope for a respec though to make everyone happy. Same story here, i made from scratch i think four or five personas. (i using just one slot, dont like my thigies too complicated - aspi) Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist Orion Empire 25	Posted - 2014.02.01 02:23:00 - [50] - Quote to stop FOTM don't let people play until they use their sp. otherwise just leave it. People won't have enough time to notice the FOTM with all the new suits anyway and with the variety i don't think there will be "A" FOTM it will be many so everyone has a chance -Open Beta Vet-12.4 mil sp- Dust 514 recruitment link here

LEHON Xeon Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 167	Posted - 2014.02.01 02:29:00 - [51] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Full infantry respec or bust. That's how I'm going at it. Full or bust. If there isn't, this person is checking out of DUST for several months until enough SP stacks up for new proto suits. It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
LuckyLuke Wargan HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 307	Posted - 2014.02.01 03:32:00 - [52] - Quote A remember the last respec, It brought back a lot of life into Dust, people were very happy about it YES, EVEN MANY OF MY FRIENDS WHO WERE TOTALLY AGAINST IT were excited when they finally got theirs. Honestly I don't care anymore and just moved on... despite the fact that they had a new Commando Class which was perfect for my AV playstyle that I couldent use for 3-4 months... and I don't care anymore that they are now releasing a commando class better fitted for my swarm use... I won't be able to use it for anothere 4 months, and am skilled into the wrong commando for what I do... "Cry HavoK!, and let slip the dogs of war!" -Medical/Intel Logibro and Swarm Commando- I feed on tanker tears...
Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 17	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:31:00 - [53] - Quote Dang, a lot of good points in this discussion ccp Shout out to us Unholy Legion veterans.
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 123	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:41:00 - [54] - Quote if i was an amarr assault with proto laser weaponry id be very unhappy. ive supported an infantry respec since 1.7 with broken tanks launched.
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 404	Posted - 2014.02.01 05:41:00 - [55] - Quote Yeah I support it for dropsuits and weapons, a respec once in a while wouldn't be a bad thing, at least until they've gotten all of the vehicle and dropsuit variants that they wanted to put in the game, that and after they (hopefully) put in the SP pool or rollover system. If people are worried about everyone specing into the fit of the month, who cares? It will only last for a month, then they will probably get heavily nerfed andit will be useless again, and people realize this and instead spec into things that work for them, only idiots spec into the fit of the month intentionally. This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
BlazeXYZ The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1	Posted - 2014.02.01 17:24:00 - [56] - Quote Egonz4 wrote: As you all know people have been begging for a respec to come with the upcoming 1.8 patch. I thought I would share my veteran outlook on what a respec could do... First off there is a lot of good things a respec could do, such as....Bringing back old players who made bad decisions, help people who really like the LORE of EVE fight for their faction, and help people defend themselves from the proto stompers. Some of peoples concerns are that everyone will spec into the FOTM, and i get that, that has been a huge problem for a while. But i personally think a respec would be good, and I would definitely use it to spec into all Caldari suits even if they are crap. I think a full respec would be good but rather unlikely.....but a weapon and suits respec would still be okay, not hurting anyone...... What do you guys think? what are the pros and cons to having a respec? I never get on the forums to post, but today I made an exception cuz I know I made bad specing decisions and I have definetly paid the price...I currently only have around 15 mil isk (not a lot for a veteran) and cant afford going any higher than advance. At one point I though of just deleting my character and starting over, but it was hard and I was thinking about just deleting Dust, but Dust being Dust.... just wouldnt let me go So personally I say a respec would be great for me and a lot of people like me. stay cool mercs! I have around 15 million sp, your right not enough for a veteran like me. I made so many mistakes in dust and i just move on with these mistakes. During Uprising i had only had 3 mill. and wasted all that sp for nothing. Then when CCP was giving out the optional respec i missed it, wasn't even aware this was going on. Now i'm stuck with my mistakes and moved on. I kept on asking them to give me a respec, never gave me a chance. Now that 1.8 is coming a respec is logical. However, looking at the forums people suggests not having a respec. Why i don't know . Please CCP give the people who wants a respec a respec . This would give me and others a new chance toward this game.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 460	Posted - 2014.02.01 17:41:00 - [57] - Quote We just had all vehicle SP refunded. I would imagine dropsuit command will be refunded with the addition of the racial suits. If dropsuit upgrades change drastically i would imagine there would be a refund there as well. Weapons are not going to change much, just new weapons added. No need for a refund there. When all is said and done that is damn near a full respec. At what point do people start spending SP wisely? Only after a full respec? And after said full respec, what do you tell the next mob of people who will want a fresh respec a week later? Do you tell them no because you got your final respec and you are happy? Give a full respec, doesn't really matter. I will enjoy a good laugh when respec threads keep flooding the forums after said respec. I've heard it plenty before but I went through Jim Jones' suicide tape transcript to find a good quote...jesus christ.
darkiller240 WarRavens League of Infamy 324	Posted - 2014.02.01 17:44:00 - [58] - Quote 10k arum for respecs CCP will be baving in money "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1571	Posted - 2014.02.01 18:37:00 - [59] - Quote I hope they give the stupid refund so all you QQers will STFU. It will change little. The same people will complain about the same things and it won't help stop proto stomps. Good players are good and they will dominate bad players every time. If/when they give the respec I hope they tell all of you to pi$$ off. It isn't that bad and setting a precedent for a respec only encourages the call for more down the line. I try not to say this often but HTFU. List of positives. Makes people FEEL good. List of negatives. It hurts news players by allowing older players with vastly more SP to build perfect fits. It hurts the lore/idea of choices have consequences. Makes us look like crybaby candy a$$es to EVE pilots. Sets a precedent for more respecs, especially to new players because they say "vets had one why can't we?". Don't get me wrong, I think CCP have painted themselves into a corner and now have to issue a refund. I am worried that the same thing will happen with an infantry refund as a vehicle refund. All things will be broken and everyone will call for nerf/buff or nothing will change because the fitting warriors will do the math on the fits to have the perfect fit. No one with use anything except prototype gear and we will be in the exact same spot we are now. The best thing people could be doing now is saving SP instead of demanding refunds. When the refund hits and everyone prototypes the first day think how many nerf/ buff threads will pop up and when the gear is buffed/nerfed everyone will cry that CCP made their fit useless, just like they do now. GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1571	Posted - 2014.02.01 18:44:00 - [60] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Vance Vyth wrote: A respec will breath new life into a dying game. That is all. This resumes all Respec threads. Well said Vance. I disagree, refunded SP will not breath life into this game, only content and some time will do that. Refunded SP is like putting a band aid on a compound facture. The bleeding may stop for a while but it doesn't fix the underlying problems. The only fix for the game is more of everything, a market and pve. Only those things can breath life into DUST. GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson

LuckyLuke Wargan HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 307	Posted - 2014.02.02 01:31:00 - [61] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: We just had all vehicle SP refunded. I would imagine dropsuit command will be refunded with the addition of the racial suits. If dropsuit upgrades change drastically i would imagine there would be a refund there as well. Weapons are not going to change much, just new weapons added. No need for a refund there. When all is said and done that is damn near a full respec. At what point do people start spending SP wisely? Only after a full respec? And after said full respec, what do you tell the next mob of people who will want a fresh respec a week later? Do you tell them no because you got your final respec and you are happy? Give a full respec, doesn't really matter. I will enjoy a good laugh when respec threads keep flooding the forums after said respec. Let respecs be available at all times for Aur. Problem solved, CCP makes money and people can have respecs for a price. OR do like many other MMOs and have respec milestones or cost increase per each use, for exemple, can have first respec at 5M sp... next at 12, next at 20, etc... or increase price so first 5M isk, or other aurum currency, 10M for the next, 15M for next, etc, making it not something you want to do every day. Other MMOs do it, why not this one? "Cry HavoK!, and let slip the dogs of war!" -Medical/Intel Logibro and Swarm Commando- I feed on tanker tears...
Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 20	Posted - 2014.02.02 01:45:00 - [62] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: I hope they give the stupid refund so all you QQers will STFU. It will change little. The same people will complain about the same things and it won't help stop proto stomps. Good players are good and they will dominate bad players every time. If/when they give the respec I hope they tell all of you to pi$$ off. It isn't that bad and setting a precedent for a respec only encourages the call for more down the line. I try not to say this often but HTFU. List of positives. Makes people FEEL good. List of negatives. It hurts news players by allowing older players with vastly more SP to build perfect fits. It hurts the lore/idea of choices have consequences. Makes us look like crybaby candy a$$es to EVE pilots. Sets a precedent for more respecs, especially to new players because they say "vets had one why can't we?". Don't get me wrong, I think CCP have painted themselves into a corner and now have to issue a refund. I am worried that the same thing will happen with an infantry refund as a vehicle refund. All things will be broken and everyone will call for nerf/buff or nothing will change because the fitting warriors will do the math on the fits to have the perfect fit. No one with use anything except prototype gear and we will be in the exact same spot we are now. The best thing people could be doing now is saving SP instead of demanding refunds. When the refund hits and everyone prototypes the first day think how many nerf/ buff threads will pop up and when the gear is buffed/nerfed everyone will cry that CCP made their fit useless, just like they do now. U have some good points but I think it would help the noobs against proto stompers. But the point is that everyone who has a specific faction couldn't spec into it because the suits just weren't there, so we definitely deserve a respe because of the fact we had no other option than to spec into the stuff that existed. I say they should give us a full respec then that's it cuz in thr future we won't need one for weapons cuz they're easy to skill into, we won't need them for vehicles because there's simply just one type. With suits the heavys and scouts are coming and for once we can finally spec into our races. I know it sounds typicall but this is the last time we need one! Shout out to us Unholy Legion veterans.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 460	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:44:00 - [63] - Quote Respecs for money, as many have said, go against what the game is about. Its about tough love and unchecked anger. This constant demand for respecs is akin to people saying the Dark Souls franchise is to hard and it needs to be way easier. Dust is suppose to be about not only living with your decisions, but owning them, making the playstyle you chose work because you are a Dust merc and thats what we do. I would agree with a respec for rookies, at a max of 5mil SP. That being said, im sure CCP will break down and start selling respecs for AUR one day, which I wouldn't agree with at all. I've heard it plenty before but I went through Jim Jones' suicide tape transcript to find a good quote...jesus christ.
Herman Hardon The Rainbow Effect 31	Posted - 2014.02.02 19:02:00 - [64] - Quote Full respec + 1
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution 1817	Posted - 2014.02.02 19:06:00 - [65] - Quote All the base content for infantry is being released = A damn respec New born sAMARRi
VALCORE72 NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 25	Posted - 2014.02.02 19:09:00 - [66] - Quote most the ppl who say no to respec are eve players and ppl who want dust to fail .not all just most iv seen . respec will help tons . since they are reallly changen skill tree i think we will buuuut this should be the very last one . we will have most of the stuff that was said from the start .
Ronan Elsword Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 158	Posted - 2014.02.02 19:13:00 - [67] - Quote Unlike all the people wanting a respec because they made bad decisions, I want one because I made good ones. In this case too good of a decision so the community cried about it turning my good decision into something else. Also I want Caldari Scout and heavy. Been wanting those for a long time. Edit: and I want my sp back from my Gallente AR now that I have my racial weapon. *"War doesn't determine who is right, only who is left."*
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10528	Posted - 2014.02.02 19:25:00 - [68] - Quote Respecs ruin FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR less than billions of free ISK being poured into peoples pockets thanks to broken PC. People bitching that respecs will cause proto stomps clearly aren't up to speed with the game as is. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 218	Posted - 2014.02.02 19:27:00 - [69] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Respecs ruin FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR less than billions of free ISK being poured into peoples pockets thanks to broken PC. People bitching that respecs will cause proto stomps clearly aren't up to speed with the game as is. It will even out the field and they will die due to lack of skill so they become no respec people 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1005	Posted - 2014.02.02 19:31:00 - [70] - Quote The first new respec thread appears on forums the day after a respec. It is inevitable, going to that road is an endless cycle. "A wild respec thread appears" Masochism L5.

NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 218	Posted - 2014.02.02 19:49:00 - [71] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: The first new respec thread appears on forums the day after a respec. It is inevitable, going to that road is an endless cycle. "A wild respec thread appears" GO "HTFU"! "HTFU" uses too bad! Its super effective! Respec thread fainted. You gained 2xp 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1719	Posted - 2014.02.02 19:56:00 - [72] - Quote Egonz4 wrote: As you all know people have been begging for a respec to come with the upcoming 1.8 patch. I thought I would share my veteran outlook on what a respec could do... First off there is a lot of good things a respec could do, such as....Bringing back old players who made bad decisions, help people who really like the LORE of EVE fight for their faction, and help people defend themselves from the proto stompers. Some of peoples concerns are that everyone will spec into the FOTM, and i get that, that has been a huge problem for a while. But i personally think a respec would be good, and I would definitely use it to spec into all Caldari suits even if they are crap. I think a full respec would be good but rather unlikely.....but a weapon and suits respec would still be okay, not hurting anyone...... What do you guys think? what are the pros and cons to having a respec? I never get on the forums to post, but today I made an exception cuz I know I made bad specing decisions and I have definetly paid the price...I currently only have around 15 mil isk (not a lot for a veteran) and cant afford going any higher than advance. At one point I though of just deleting my character and starting over, but it was hard and I was thinking about just deleting Dust, but Dust being Dust.... just wouldnt let me go So personally I say a respec would be great for me and a lot of people like me. stay cool mercs! Playstyles need to change. Some want a full racial line. Others might want 3 scanners on a Gal logi for full 360-¦ scanned awareness. Others want to throw out 30 uplinks. Others want to deploy a ton of nanohives. Others want to rep at incredible range and at a high rate. Some may want a full Caldari load. There may be others like me that choose one suit, but still use all the equipment. I want to wait and see about any new hulls and turrets. A respec was needed because they were changing everything about vehicles. Another one will be needed because they're changing most everything about infantry. I haven't even read your OP because I assume it to be against respecs. Is it? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
TunRa D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 452	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:08:00 - [73] - Quote Respec dropsuit command, done. Thanks CCP Foxfour
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 460	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:18:00 - [74] - Quote Refunds are fine. The vehicle refund obiously had to happen, and im sure there will be an infantry one just out of principle. However, i was a noob. I bounced around for weeks from dead corp to dead corp to npc corp. I had no vet help. I did my homework, i got on the forums, i read the skill tree over and over and over and over again. I stayed away from the temptations of the market, and i paid attention to what i was seeing in the field. I did what i always do in games involving xp and figuring i wouldnt get my xp (sp) back, i waited till around 3mil before i spent a drop. I dont play PC, im not worried about fotm. I worked hard and spent and continue to spend my sp wisely. Many people have spread themselves thin, and keep doing it, they just dont stop. If the people who wanted respecs when i started playing in JULY still want respecs then, well, you're doing it wrong. I've heard it plenty before but I went through Jim Jones' suicide tape transcript to find a good quote...jesus christ.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1715	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:28:00 - [75] - Quote Egonz4 wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: And you think people won't make a "bad decision" after another respec? Implying that it's possible to waste SP. No people of couse will make bad decisions but now that there will be every suit it wont be as extreme I remember when I went to level 5 AR cuz it was the only good weapon and the only AR. but now a rail rifle and cobat rifle could take me and my AR down in seconds But people wil make bad decisions then too. Why aren't they allowed another respec if people got one because of bad decisions back then? Skilling into something you won't use all the time doesn't set you back a bit. It just gives your more possibilities to use. The whole respec stuff doesn't make sense in Dust at all. Because you don't have some kind of level cap. I too have "wasted" some SP on Assault Rifles and Combat Rifles. I too "wasted" SP on some suits I don't use. And I'm talking about leveling proto suits to Level 5 I now don't use. Heck. I even got about 400k SP in vehicles. But who cares? I still get SP. I can still skill into everything I want to use and hey: Who knows? Maybe I will use one of those weapons or suits I now don't use at all again. Maybe I'll need these skills later again anyways because CCP adds suits which require skills in more than one type of Dropsuit? And even if they don't: More suits means you have more fittings to create and to play with. If you think you have "wasted" SP don't bother. Just skill into what you want to use next. A new advanced suit takes 2 weeks at max. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Malek McRoland DUST University Ivy League 192	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:50:00 - [76] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: Respecs for money, as many have said, go against what the game is about. Its about tough love and unchecked anger. This constant demand for respecs is akin to people saying the Dark Souls franchise is to hard and it needs to be way easier. Dust is suppose to be about not only living with your decisions, but owning them, making the playstyle you chose work because you are a Dust merc and thats what we do. I would agree with a respec for rookies, at a max of 5mil SP. That being said, im sure CCP will break down and start selling respecs for AUR one day, which I wouldn't agree with at all. Dark Souls offered more armor than Dust offers to this day. Dark Souls at least let you know you were going to get your arse kicked. Dust has an academy that gives the player one-maybe two battles then throws them into the Rankour pit. A respec for Dropsuit Command is not the end of the world. So stop blubbering about how this video game is like real life choices being made real in a virtual world. It's a game; therefore treat like one and stop worrying about dropsuits respecs. Let's turn the attention to more gamemodes aside from Pubs or FW bloodfests. Loyal Amarr and Caldari supporter Tanks....shut up. Raise TTK!! Or we'll go on strike....doing strike....things.....
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 2709	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:05:00 - [77] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: +1 to the OP. This topic has been discussed and it seems like the largest group of ANTI-RESPEC folks come from Eve and bring that mentality here. The benefits of a respec far outweigh the negatives at this juncture. Tell me: What reason would the skillsystem have if people would get a respec every time they asked? I'm the kind of guy who could accept a form of built in RESPEC system to keep things interesting, but I see the other side go that issue. This RESPEC would be about providing access to things that "should" have been here some time ago. Also how can a decision matter if only one of four potential choices is available (Heavy Suit)? I'll be near 40 Mil SP by the time 1.8 hits, it's not a big deal for me. My core skills and accessory skills are maxed out for the most part. In 10 mil SP I'll have 5 proto suits and over 10 proto weapons. The short sighted folks fear what the high SP folks would do with a RESPEC, but it's the waves of 10-15 mil SP players that will hopefully specialize a bit with the necessary experience to make their decisions count. ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1174	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:08:00 - [78] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: +1 to the OP. This topic has been discussed and it seems like the largest group of ANTI-RESPEC folks come from Eve and bring that mentality here. The benefits of a respec far outweigh the negatives at this juncture. Tell me: What reason would the skillsystem have if people would get a respec every time they asked? What reason is there to deny a yearly fix to a game that may die otherwise?? Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 25	Posted - 2014.02.03 05:12:00 - [79] - Quote Ronan Elsword wrote: Unlike all the people wanting a respec because they made bad decisions, I want one because I made good ones. In this case too good of a decision so the community cried about it turning my good decision into something else. Also I want Caldari Scout and heavy. Been wanting those for a long time. Edit: and I want my sp back from my Gallente AR now that I have my racial weapon. Haha this ^ exactly except for the good decisions part Shout out to us Unholy Legion veterans.
Tectonic Fusion 1022	Posted - 2014.02.03 05:43:00 - [80] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: People arguing FOTM, can you tell me what the FOTM will be in 1.8? Honestly most the problems with FOTM before were because there wasn't many options to choose from. Right now I here people saying scouts will be FOTM with cloaks, or Commandos with free damage mods, or Sentinels with all that resistance, quite frankly they all sound really good. And then you have all the racial choices. I just don't see any one particular FOTM becoming the dominant thing. Exacta. Solo Player Squad status: Locked



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