People already go for the FoTM... so I can't see how that's an argument to stop a respec

"Oh Caldari is the best suit now! No problem, I'll get boosters and have a proto Caldari suit in no time"

Same goes for weapons, but tbh, weapons are easier. I had almost all proto weapons before I stopped playing DUST. Didn't have proto scrambler pistols, swarm launchers... that's it. I'll have enough SP to get whatever the "best weapon" is right now if i wanted to play.

So yea, how exactly is stopping a respec suppose to stop this FoTM trend? I don't know, maybe CCP balancing their game properly will fix that... no? Naaaaa

And you think people won't make a "bad decision" after another respec? Implying that it's possible to waste SP.

Since all closed beta vets had a respec for uprising and got a SECOND respec complaining they didn't know what they were doing i cannot understand why now, with all of the suits and bonuses being reworked from the bottom up anyone would be against a respec.

If it was merely new content, then no i would not want a repec. I'd just add the caldari (for example)scout to my adv heavy, proto minmatar logi, and adv gallente scout trifecta. I like adding new things to my collection. I have adv in all of the basic suits except minmatar scout, all of the assaults to level 1, and level 1 logis cuz its fun.

But take my proto minmatar logi for example. Now he can no longer hack, has no passive regen, all of his equipment is nerfed because he is Minmatar. His rep tool bonus has to be proto just to get back to where it is now. 2.5 million i inested into him and CCP is going to take away every reason i spent 2.5 million into him on the advice of the CPM. So yeah i think they owe me beack my SP. Too bad they cant go back in time and give me back the month i spent grinding for him, but hey, thats CCP for you.

I love my heavy suit but the only reason its amarr is because that was it. So sympathise with the heavies on that one.

I'll probably spend post 1.8 collecting the suits like pokemon, but dammit CCP you screw with what people invested hours of thier lives into for a specific goal, the least you could do is give a respec.

Also, i run tanks, so i remember how much the infantry was complaining about the well deserved vehicle respec. Now you get to have yours too.

My goodness. It's affect, not effect. The respec is not going to make the game come into existence.

Sorry, it's just that I've had to correct tons of people on that.

People arguing FOTM, can you tell me what the FOTM will be in 1.8? Honestly most the problems with FOTM before were because there wasn't many options to choose from. Right now I here people saying scouts will be FOTM with cloaks, or Commandos with free damage mods, or Sentinels with all that resistance, quite frankly they all sound really good. And then you have all the racial choices. I just don't see any one particular FOTM becoming the dominant thing.

After the last respec I spent my points wisely, and was very happy with minmatar scout, month later, strafe changes, endurance nerf, armor buff, op rifle ranges , scr, faylocks, mass drivers, spent the next 4 months going armor and gallente scout.

Now I have both so who cares but, for about half a yr I cursed CCP every day an I don't wanna go through that BS again!

Tell me: What reason would the skillsystem have if people would get a respec every time they asked?

no to a full respec but weapons' suits and upgrades are needed . for me it was the hmg . dam thing was broke for months so i had to spec in to crap i really didnt want to. if there is i will do full minny . heavy 'assault mabe commando with cr .hmg .smg . fg . for weapons . while going back to max pg .cpu . kincats. shields.armor . instead of have shlt alover the place

no respecs, and use the search engine. there's about 1000 threads like this.

I hope they give the stupid refund so all you QQers will STFU. It will change little. The same people will complain about the same things and it won't help stop proto stomps. Good players are good and they will dominate bad players every time. If/when they give the respec I hope they tell all of you to pi$$ off. It isn't that bad and setting a precedent for a respec only encourages the call for more down the line.

I try not to say this often but HTFU.

List of positives.
Makes people FEEL good.

List of negatives.
It hurts news players by allowing older players with vastly more SP to build perfect fits.
It hurts the lore/idea of choices have consequences.
Makes us look like crybaby candy a$$es to EVE pilots.
Sets a precedent for more respecs, especially to new players because they say "vets had one why can't we?".


Don't get me wrong, I think CCP have painted themselves into a corner and now have to issue a refund. I am worried that the same thing will happen with an infantry refund as a vehicle refund. All things will be broken and everyone will call for nerf/buff or nothing will change because the fitting warriors will do the math on the fits to have the perfect fit. No one with use anything except prototype gear and we will be in the exact same spot we are now. The best thing people could be doing now is saving SP instead of demanding refunds. When the refund hits and everyone prototypes the first day think how many nerf/ buff threads will pop up and when the gear is buffed/nerfed everyone will cry that CCP made their fit useless, just like they do now.

Unlike all the people wanting a respec because they made bad decisions, I want one because I made good ones. In this case too good of a decision so the community cried about it turning my good decision into something else.

Also I want Caldari Scout and heavy. Been wanting those for a long time.


Edit: and I want my sp back from my Gallente AR now that I have my racial weapon.