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Fusion Commander
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
65
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Posted - 2014.01.31 03:53:00 -
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I thought when you guys said you were going to become independent not hop on the bandwagon and go Renegade Alliance
Should've seen that coming to be honest |
LEHON Xeon
Pradox XVI Proficiency V.
163
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Posted - 2014.01.31 03:54:00 -
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How'd they manage that one?
It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
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Fusion Commander
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
65
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Posted - 2014.01.31 03:57:00 -
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LEHON Xeon wrote:How'd they manage that one?
Good question |
Arirana
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
414
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Posted - 2014.01.31 04:02:00 -
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I'm more confused as to why you think when someone says something it's set in stone and people don't change their minds.
So, is changing your mind not acceptable behavior by your standards?
I have an ego?! O.O
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
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LEHON Xeon
Pradox XVI Proficiency V.
163
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Posted - 2014.01.31 04:02:00 -
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I mean I'd really love to know. I don't claim to be some big person in this game nor super good, but I've played FPS for a very long time, and I used to fight with a bunch of them awhile ago when I first started squadding up in this game and I didn't find them all that outstanding. Perhaps it was just the people I went in with; I'd say they were satisfactory, but not sufficient. Was there some mass influx of super powered vets into their corp or something recently?
It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
782
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Posted - 2014.01.31 04:05:00 -
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Arirana wrote:I'm more confused as to why you think when someone says something it's set in stone and people don't change their minds. So, on a side note. I found an anime I haven't seen since I was twelve which supports my redhead fetish.
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
414
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Posted - 2014.01.31 04:07:00 -
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LEHON Xeon wrote:I mean I'd really love to know. I used to fight with a bunch of them awhile ago when I first started squadding up in this game and I didn't find them all that outstanding. Perhaps it was just the people I went in with; I'd say they were satisfactory, but not sufficient. I'm entirely ignorant as to why they wanted to join or why they were let in, wasn't there for that discussion. I do know that just because AE is here doesn't mean RA as a whole is elitist. Your confusion is based on an incorrect assumption.
I have an ego?! O.O
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
783
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Posted - 2014.01.31 04:12:00 -
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this should make you feel better Fusion.
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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Fusion Commander
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
66
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Posted - 2014.01.31 04:19:00 -
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Arirana wrote:I'm more confused as to why you think when someone says something it's set in stone and people don't change their minds.
So, is changing your mind not acceptable behavior by your standards?
They sent out an entire corp mail saying they would become independent that they discussed it with the entire corp, it's not the fact that they changed there minds is what's bothering me (which is completely fine with me) it's the fact that in a way they lied. They never mentioned that in th corp meating that they were going to RA in just a few days or mention anything about RA in that matter
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LEHON Xeon
Pradox XVI Proficiency V.
163
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Posted - 2014.01.31 04:21:00 -
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I guess right here is the main reason I just keep on running pub matches. Pretty soon a few more corps will migrate over into RA and then the entire wheel of Molden Heath (Dust Charts) or about 80% of it will be entirely blue and next to no one (we kind of already have that now) will be in PC anymore. Then RA can just all take it over and then they'll just move permanently into FW once PC is controlled as they'll all have the massive Isk reserves to keep running FW for months on end while frequently doing pub stomps with a Q-sync for laughs. My guess is that if anything, AE or Nyan will kick someone out of RA who is not good enough for their ideal standards and then take over that share as well to get more Isk reserve for FW.
For anyone in here who has played it, what we have here is now a similar set up to Runescape from awhile ago. Those who already had vast max stacks of money bought up rares and then formed merch clans to buy mass stacks of rares so no one else ever really got ahead because prices rose so high that they couldn't (the only difference there was that process took roughly 8 years, not one and a half). However at least RS had an individual aspect in which one could just as easily do solo activities through skills. Only solo in this game is running pubs and loosing a crapload of suits if you're only mediocre and making a slight profit if you're good.
It took me a long time to understand why people were leaving in here outside of development related issues. Not that hard to see now. For anyone outside of RA, it's almost a zero-end game (unless you're someone who wants to just focus on self improvement). Even being in RA, most people can just sit back and rest upon what was built. I'm sure this person will eventually get tired as well and return to Borderlands and Assassins Creed again, but Dust still holds my interest for now. It's the interaction with people from all around the world I enjoy more than anything.
It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
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LEHON Xeon
Pradox XVI Proficiency V.
163
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Posted - 2014.01.31 04:24:00 -
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Fusion Commander wrote:Arirana wrote:I'm more confused as to why you think when someone says something it's set in stone and people don't change their minds.
So, is changing your mind not acceptable behavior by your standards? They sent out an entire corp mail saying they would become independent that they discussed it with the entire corp, it's not the fact that they changed there minds is what's bothering me (which is completely fine with me) it's the fact that in a way they lied. They never mentioned that in th corp meating that they were going to RA in just a few days or mention anything about RA in that matter
You might as well get used to that. This to me just serves as another example which fortifies my disdain of society and to never trust anyone at all, no matter who they are.
It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
783
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Posted - 2014.01.31 04:36:00 -
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LEHON Xeon wrote:Fusion Commander wrote:Arirana wrote:I'm more confused as to why you think when someone says something it's set in stone and people don't change their minds.
So, is changing your mind not acceptable behavior by your standards? They sent out an entire corp mail saying they would become independent that they discussed it with the entire corp, it's not the fact that they changed there minds is what's bothering me (which is completely fine with me) it's the fact that in a way they lied. They never mentioned that in th corp meating that they were going to RA in just a few days or mention anything about RA in that matter You might as well get used to that. This to me just serves as another example which fortifies my disdain of society and to never trust anyone at all, no matter who they are. I'm going to touch you Lehon.
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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LEHON Xeon
Pradox XVI Proficiency V.
163
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Posted - 2014.01.31 04:40:00 -
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Sorry Derrith, but entities in the spirit dimension already beat you to that quite awhile ago. Not the AIDS part, but the touching portion.
It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
766
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Posted - 2014.01.31 04:47:00 -
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Onegai teacher huh? I haven't seen it yet. Though now I have something to watch :3
GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢
Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà
Forum Warrior LV. 4 | Banishment this World! | PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
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LEHON Xeon
Pradox XVI Proficiency V.
163
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Posted - 2014.01.31 04:57:00 -
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Arirana wrote:LEHON Xeon wrote:I mean I'd really love to know. I used to fight with a bunch of them awhile ago when I first started squadding up in this game and I didn't find them all that outstanding. Perhaps it was just the people I went in with; I'd say they were satisfactory, but not sufficient. I'm entirely ignorant as to why they wanted to join or why they were let in, wasn't there for that discussion. I do know that just because AE is here doesn't mean RA as a whole is elitist. Your confusion is based on an incorrect assumption.
An incorrect assumption it may have been, but one I formulated from personal experiences in pub and FW matches and some PCs (also coming from only being here about 3/4 a year). It's a rare occasion anyone on my side ever prevails against anyone from RA in pub matches even unless there's only about two of them only and overall for FW, forget it. Last FW matches I was in against you guys we lost by 80+. Now that to me demonstrates that you people have considerable skill on the fields, and given the things I've read in the forum and from your corp recruitment posts from long ago, that's what I've arrived at. If you can provide a clarification to that I'd be glad to hear. It might not seem elitist to you guys being on that side, but to me on the outside, so far it does. "Need X skills and abilities/attributes", which is understandable, but leads to my assessment.
It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
784
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Posted - 2014.01.31 05:01:00 -
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Marad''er wrote:Onegai teacher huh? I haven't seen it yet. Though now I have something to watch :3 Yeah, it's a pretty old one. I was watching anime when Inuyasha was first starting.
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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NobIesse Oblige
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
127
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Posted - 2014.01.31 05:56:00 -
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Fusion Commander wrote:I thought when you guys said you were going to become independent not hop on the bandwagon and go Renegade Alliance
Should've seen that coming to be honest
Not everyone has balls of steel like you and xdestruction and carlos and nix and unique and co.
I thought they did when they took their defeats like men, but alas. |
Wolfica
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
426
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Posted - 2014.01.31 06:01:00 -
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Well even though CA joined RA they Made no difference in defending Nyain chans PFc district tonight. Search @Wolfica514 on twitter for photos
I reject you reality and substitute my own.
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excillon
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
197
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Posted - 2014.01.31 06:10:00 -
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Fusion Commander wrote:I thought when you guys said you were going to become independent not hop on the bandwagon and go Renegade Alliance
Should've seen that coming to be honest More people to hate more to kill with a sense of satisfaction. Theres an upside to everything. |
Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1806
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Posted - 2014.01.31 06:28:00 -
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I agree that RA is not an elitist group, but come on have some standards here. So does AE ring for alliance for free? what does RA get out of this deal besides another nub corp to have to look after. I'm confused by this in all honesty.
[CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm
[CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit
[CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1071
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Posted - 2014.01.31 06:34:00 -
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yo fusion commander, i been looking for you. i got a spot for you in AE. if you want it brah, we could use you when PC opens back up and i know you want in, i mean.. who doesn't? lol.
GÿáTemplar of the Exiled.GäóGÖå
GÖ½ +¬ Gÿ+ Æ. ... Who gives a flux. +ª GêP
Signature move: 5-Finger PubStomp -å
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D4GG3R
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
7
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:24:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:yo fusion commander, i been looking for you. i got a spot for you in AE. if you want it brah, we could use you when PC opens back up and i know you want in, i mean.. who doesn't? lol.
o/
I Doesn't...
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Kingseeker Kobra
Fetal Abortions
257
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:32:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:yo fusion commander, i been looking for you. i got a spot for you in AE. if you want it brah, we could use you when PC opens back up and i know you want in, i mean.. who doesn't? lol. Translation- we've been losing members left and right and losing PCs just as fast, please help me get a recruitment bonus and join our dying corp while we lock our districts to prevent any more morale loss
Ariana glitches 31 free kills and loses anyways, LMFAO @ AE GARBAGE
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Messy Frog Ink
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2014.01.31 07:41:00 -
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NS#1 |
dwater
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
30
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Posted - 2014.01.31 08:44:00 -
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Kingseeker Kobra wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:yo fusion commander, i been looking for you. i got a spot for you in AE. if you want it brah, we could use you when PC opens back up and i know you want in, i mean.. who doesn't? lol. Translation- we've been losing members left and right and losing PCs just as fast, please help me get a recruitment bonus and join our dying corp while we lock our districts to prevent any more morale loss
I see we've finally got a translater now thank you |
843-BANE
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
711
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Posted - 2014.01.31 12:55:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:yo fusion commander, i been looking for you. i got a spot for you in AE. if you want it brah, we could use you when PC opens back up and i know you want in, i mean.. who doesn't? lol.
lol indeed.
Director // Major // BurgezzE.T.F
Challenge me to Thunderdome.
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
415
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Posted - 2014.01.31 13:12:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:I agree that RA is not an elitist group, but come on have some standards here. So does AE ring for alliance for free? what does RA get out of this deal besides another nub corp to have to look after. I'm confused by this in all honesty. IMO it probably has something to do with how much they're improving. They got a lot better from the last time we saw them in PC, something you gotta respect.
I have an ego?! O.O
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
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Sentient Archon
1480
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Posted - 2014.01.31 13:51:00 -
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The real reason why CA joined RA (story mode);-
It was a dark and cloudy evening. Texas Killionaire, Shepard Grey and Kujo decided to try out some contact sport like rugby. It started raining and after spending a few minutes rolling in the sand with each other and getting all muddy and dirty Kujo decides its time for a shower. While in the shower Kujo "accidently" drops his soap. Here is the conversation that followed;-
Kujo: Oops I dropped my soap ... TK: Dont worry let me get it for you ... SG: I'll get it too ...
Both TK and SG bend over to get the soap and face away from Kujo. After waiting for a minute...
TK: What are you waiting for Kujo? SG: Yeah Kujo! We cant stay like this forever! Kujo:
The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
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Long Evity
1407
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:01:00 -
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CA joined RA so the community has a corp from RA they can smack around and feel good about themselves. :D
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
790
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:52:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:The real reason why CA joined RA (story mode);- It was a dark and cloudy evening. Texas Killionaire, Shepard Grey and Kujo decided to try out some contact sport like rugby. It started raining and after spending a few minutes rolling in the sand with each other and getting all muddy and dirty Kujo decides its time for a shower. While in the shower Kujo "accidently" drops his soap. Here is the conversation that followed;- Kujo: Oops I dropped my soap ... TK: Dont worry let me get it for you ... SG: I'll get it too ... Both TK and SG bend over to get the soap and face away from Kujo. After waiting for a minute... TK: What are you waiting for Kujo? SG: Yeah Kujo! We cant stay like this forever! Kujo:
You forgot they were cosplaying as a schoolgirl (Texas)and Chun-Li from street fighter(Shepard). Don't know what Kujo was wearing, but it had to be something along these lines.
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
1157
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:55:00 -
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LEHON Xeon wrote:How'd they manage that one?
it's my understanding they earned someone's respect by fighting their fights without ringers. |
CUBS UNbanned Alt
190
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:56:00 -
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Arirana wrote:I'm more confused as to why you think when someone says something it's set in stone and people don't change their minds.
So, is changing your mind not acceptable behavior by your standards?
can anyone remember the name of the teacher from Charlie Brown?
I think their gaming handle is 'Arirana'
Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands
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CUBS UNbanned Alt
190
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:58:00 -
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Kingseeker Kobra wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:yo fusion commander, i been looking for you. i got a spot for you in AE. if you want it brah, we could use you when PC opens back up and i know you want in, i mean.. who doesn't? lol. Translation- we've been losing members left and right and losing PCs just as fast, please help me get a recruitment bonus and join our dying corp while we lock our districts to prevent any more morale loss
#VerifiedByGooGLeTRanSlate
Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands
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Sentient Archon
1485
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:03:00 -
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low genius wrote:LEHON Xeon wrote:How'd they manage that one? it's my understanding they earned someone's respect by fighting their fights without ringers.
Your version is too boring. Anything without sex and/or action is boring. My version is better.
The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
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CPL Bloodstone
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
252
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:06:00 -
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tl:dr We do what we want when we want and dont care what you think. If it benefits us, it benefits us regardless of your opinion.
(True) part of the reason CA left PD was because it was a stipulation of mine that if i was to join the leadership of CA that they leave PD. Lucky for me, it was already in the process =).
(My perception) I believe that CA rarely received assistance from PD corps and it was all about STB and kinda about ML. Capital aquisition has really grown over time and does very well on their own but sometimes due to timers and what not, you just need assistance. That is were PD fell thru the cracks.
(reason for joining RA)
We had all intentions of remaining solo for an undecided amount of time. Just so happens that thru fun matches and such with RA corps, that it was brought up about us joining RA. Each corp within RA can stand on its own without help. How much greater if you takes those corps and put them into an Alliance to make each corp stronger. That is what we truely get from it. I believe its a good fit not only for us but also for RA. Plus its really nice to know if we get into a pinch, we have awesome teams that will back us up. I do not have any information regarding prices if any on our alliance members ringing.
Woman are like bacon, They Smell , look, taste good and slowly kills men.
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Sentient Archon
1485
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:09:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:tl:dr blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda giggity giggity goo
I was the one getting this on film.
The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
882
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:09:00 -
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Makes sense. |
CPL Bloodstone
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
252
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:09:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:tl:dr blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda giggity giggity goo I was the one getting this on film.
lol
Woman are like bacon, They Smell , look, taste good and slowly kills men.
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Long Evity
1408
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:10:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote: Each corp within RA can stand on its own without help LOL
If it wasn't for AE DDB and the rest wouldn't be anything but STB's rebellion corp still
Edit: Only NS could stand alone and be fine.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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CPL Bloodstone
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
252
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:13:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote: Each corp within RA can stand on its own without help LOL If it wasn't for AE DDB and the rest wouldn't be anything but STB's rebellion corp still Edit: Only NS could stand alone and be fine.
teach me ol' Master Troller! thank you for that lesson!
Woman are like bacon, They Smell , look, taste good and slowly kills men.
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Long Evity
1409
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:19:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:Long Evity wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote: Each corp within RA can stand on its own without help LOL If it wasn't for AE DDB and the rest wouldn't be anything but STB's rebellion corp still Edit: Only NS could stand alone and be fine. teach me ol' Master Troller! thank you for that lesson! Trolling? Yea, sure, there was a bit of a troll in there. But it's also the truth. DDB - really aren't bad, but they're still game for many corps - while corps like FA and AE would just consistently beat them - so if AE wasn't there to back them up they wouldn't hold the ground they do now or the communities attention.
Your corp is no different - cept while in PD no one is going to hold your hand if you start to lose - so you have to pucker up and get good. In RA - you'll have AE to rely on if you start to failscade.
Don't be joking anyone if you think "It's just for fun." This move was to finally put CA on the map and get real ISK farming with RA and give yourself the ringers to finally fight bigger fish.
But, that's just my two cents on the last part. :)
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Fusion Commander
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
74
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:32:00 -
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[quote=CPL Bloodstone]tl:dr We do what we want when we want and dont care what you think. If it benefits us, it benefits us regardless of your opinion.
(True) part of the reason CA left PD was because it was a stipulation of mine that if i was to join the leadership of CA that they leave PD. Lucky for me, it was already in the process =).
(My perception) I believe that CA rarely received assistance from PD corps and it was all about STB and kinda about ML. Capital aquisition has really grown over time and does very well on their own but sometimes due to timers and what not, you just need assistance. That is were PD fell thru the cracks.[/quo
Was there a time where you asked for help and didn't get any or we just ignored you. Ever time I've seen you guys ask you had a good 5-7 people x up. Whenever you guys asked me to help in pc only time I couldn't help is when we had pc of our own. And did you guys ever try to discuss the issue with other leadership? |
CPL Bloodstone
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
253
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:42:00 -
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[/quote] Trolling? Yea, sure, there was a bit of a troll in there. But it's also the truth. DDB - really aren't bad, but they're still game for many corps - while corps like FA and AE would just consistently beat them - so if AE wasn't there to back them up they wouldn't hold the ground they do now or the communities attention.
Your corp is no different - cept while in PD no one is going to hold your hand if you start to lose - so you have to pucker up and get good. In RA - you'll have AE to rely on if you start to failscade.
Don't be joking anyone if you think "It's just for fun." This move was to finally put CA on the map and get real ISK farming with RA and give yourself the ringers to finally fight bigger fish.
But, that's just my two cents on the last part. :)[/quote]
Not all corps are equal with talent. Some are better than others, everyone knows that. Its just reality. We aren't isk farming because we don't have any districts right now. PD was completely silent when CA was getting slammed by NS. But you know what, our districts were not locked and we fought Nyan San the best we could. From what i hear it was some really good fights and our guys learned a lot from NS. Point was, Zero assistance from STB. Ill admit its really nice to have backup like AE and Nyan San when its needed but our intention is to fight our own battles and win our own districts. Not to ride the curtails of AE and NS.
Woman are like bacon, They Smell , look, taste good and slowly kills men.
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Long Evity
1409
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:43:00 -
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Trolling? Yea, sure, there was a bit of a troll in there. But it's also the truth. DDB - really aren't bad, but they're still game for many corps - while corps like FA and AE would just consistently beat them - so if AE wasn't there to back them up they wouldn't hold the ground they do now or the communities attention.
Your corp is no different - cept while in PD no one is going to hold your hand if you start to lose - so you have to pucker up and get good. In RA - you'll have AE to rely on if you start to failscade.
Don't be joking anyone if you think "It's just for fun." This move was to finally put CA on the map and get real ISK farming with RA and give yourself the ringers to finally fight bigger fish.
But, that's just my two cents on the last part. :)[/quote]
Not all corps are equal with talent. Some are better than others, everyone knows that. Its just reality. We aren't isk farming because we don't have any districts right now. PD was completely silent when CA was getting slammed by NS. But you know what, our districts were not locked and we fought Nyan San the best we could. From what i hear it was some really good fights and our guys learned a lot from NS. Point was, Zero assistance from STB. Ill admit its really nice to have backup like AE and Nyan San when its needed but our intention is to fight our own battles and win our own districts. Not to ride the curtails of AE and NS. [/quote] Good to hear :D
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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CPL Bloodstone
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
253
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:45:00 -
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Fusion Commander wrote:[quote=CPL Bloodstone]tl:dr We do what we want when we want and dont care what you think. If it benefits us, it benefits us regardless of your opinion.
(True) part of the reason CA left PD was because it was a stipulation of mine that if i was to join the leadership of CA that they leave PD. Lucky for me, it was already in the process =).
(My perception) I believe that CA rarely received assistance from PD corps and it was all about STB and kinda about ML. Capital aquisition has really grown over time and does very well on their own but sometimes due to timers and what not, you just need assistance. That is were PD fell thru the cracks.[/quo
Was there a time where you asked for help and didn't get any or we just ignored you. Ever time I've seen you guys ask you had a good 5-7 people x up. Whenever you guys asked me to help in pc only time I couldn't help is when we had pc of our own. And did you guys ever try to discuss the issue with other leadership?
I cannot say anything truthfull to this statement. I don't know the details of this. Sorry
Woman are like bacon, They Smell , look, taste good and slowly kills men.
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
882
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:54:00 -
[46] - Quote
Couple of key phrases here that should be written down
"The grass is not always greener on the other side"
"If you can't beat em, join em"
"Whats good for the goose, is good for the gander"
"If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its probably a duck"
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Sentient Archon
1486
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:04:00 -
[47] - Quote
CPL Bloodstone, Long Evity and Fusion Commander are scrubs because they cant quote each other without ******* things up.
The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
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Sentient Archon
1486
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:09:00 -
[48] - Quote
ER-Bullitt wrote: "If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, you cook it and make Peiking Duck"
Fixed!
The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
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CPL Bloodstone
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
254
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:09:00 -
[49] - Quote
Sentient Archon wrote:CPL Bloodstone, Long Evity and Fusion Commander are scrubs because they cant quote each other without ******* things up.
Agreed! im old and grumpy
Woman are like bacon, They Smell , look, taste good and slowly kills men.
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Long Evity
1410
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:20:00 -
[50] - Quote
Sentient Archon wrote:CPL Bloodstone, Long Evity and Fusion Commander are scrubs because they cant quote each other without ******* things up. If you want perfect quotes fix it yourself and I'll copy and paste to edit it. :P
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Sentient Archon
1487
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:27:00 -
[51] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:CPL Bloodstone, Long Evity and Fusion Commander are scrubs because they cant quote each other without ******* things up. If you want perfect quotes fix it yourself and I'll copy and paste to edit it. :P
Long Evity is a scrub because he thinks I will actually take the time to clear up his phail quoting
The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
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Long Evity
1410
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:31:00 -
[52] - Quote
Sentient Archon wrote:Long Evity wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:CPL Bloodstone, Long Evity and Fusion Commander are scrubs because they cant quote each other without ******* things up. If you want perfect quotes fix it yourself and I'll copy and paste to edit it. :P Long Evity is a scrub because he thinks I will actually take the time to clear up his phail quoting You took the time enough to both care and post about it - why not go a step further?
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Sentient Archon
1492
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:41:00 -
[53] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:You took the time enough to both care and post about it - why not go a step further?
Long Evity is a scrub because he thinks Sentient Archon cares!
The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
2133
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:49:00 -
[54] - Quote
Sentient v SoTa if this happened these forums would be a wasteland Troll on Troll combat to the death.
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
792
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:51:00 -
[55] - Quote
DJINN Rampage wrote:yo fusion commander, i been looking for you. i got a spot for you in AE. if you want it brah, we could use you when PC opens back up and i know you want in, i mean.. who doesn't? lol. I don't think Fusion would do that. Kind of why I respect him though.
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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Sentient Archon
1496
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:53:00 -
[56] - Quote
Derrith Erador wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:yo fusion commander, i been looking for you. i got a spot for you in AE. if you want it brah, we could use you when PC opens back up and i know you want in, i mean.. who doesn't? lol. I don't think Fusion would do that. Kind of why I respect him though.
DJINN Rampage is a scrub for many reasons and one of them is that he thinks everyone with bad gungame is a corp hopper like him and needs to be carried like him. Unfortunately Fusion Commander does have gun game.
The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
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CUBS UNbanned Alt
196
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:54:00 -
[57] - Quote
so much troll..
now for the facts.
Cap Acq is a class act (maybe a little too public with some things), same with Neanderthals( who have since gone in different directions, but both came up around the same time). I sold Cap Acq AND Neanderthals their first districts, gave them insight to the PC world and they grew from there. Quite proud tbh of where they are now from where they started,and I continue to watch their growth and maturing in this game.
QG was directly involved with both from the start, providing that alliance backing and aid in a way only QG could do.
now that QG isn't really the day-to-day face of the organization, as well as time goes by and things often change, 1 way or another, its not surprising to see Cap Acq leaving.
at the same time, RA has become The Walmart of dust, everyone's welcome, constantly rolling back prices, and their headquarters are located in Arkansas...
this is not a knock on Cap Acq. fact of the matter is you cant roll solo in Molden Heath. Of course they probably shoulda had a good long talk with DDB and the 'support' they get night in night out. DDB hasn't yet learned they are solely used for their EVE support and aside from that 0 fhuks given about their livelihood...
sorry DDB, I really am, and I can only assume Cap Acq will learn this soon enough as well. Nyain San just flocks to whoever keeps the heat off them at the time, and undoubtedly will move elsewhere in due time. such is the nature of the beast
Shephard is a standup guy, and Im sure he will be looking at the state of things and wont hesitate to pull out when he gets a whiff of whats really going on.
just be patient. people have to learn for themselves
Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands
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CUBS UNbanned Alt
196
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:55:00 -
[58] - Quote
ER-Bullitt wrote:Couple of key phrases here that should be written down
"The grass is not always greener on the other side"
"If you can't beat em, join em"
"Whats good for the goose, is good for the gander"
"If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its probably a duck"
etc.
you forgot one...
'If Rampage is in the room, make sure your up-to-date on your immunizations, and for god's sake wash your hands!'
Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
792
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Posted - 2014.01.31 17:01:00 -
[59] - Quote
Sentient Archon wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:yo fusion commander, i been looking for you. i got a spot for you in AE. if you want it brah, we could use you when PC opens back up and i know you want in, i mean.. who doesn't? lol. I don't think Fusion would do that. Kind of why I respect him though. DJINN Rampage is a scrub for many reasons and one of them is that he thinks everyone with bad gungame is a corp hopper like him and needs to be carried like him. Unfortunately Fusion Commander does have gun game. I'm more insulted by the fact he didn't try to recruit me. I soloed him with an smg without dmg mods. and before anyone gets to it, I've already beat you to it.
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
792
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Posted - 2014.01.31 17:04:00 -
[60] - Quote
CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote: at the same time, RA has become The Walmart of dust, everyone's welcome, constantly rolling back prices, and their headquarters are located in Arkansas...
Hey, that's my home town they're in!!
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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CPL Bloodstone
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
254
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Posted - 2014.01.31 18:20:00 -
[61] - Quote
CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote:so much troll.. now for the facts. Cap Acq is a class act (maybe a little too public with some things), same with Neanderthals( who have since gone in different directions, but both came up around the same time). I sold Cap Acq AND Neanderthals their first districts, gave them insight to the PC world and they grew from there. Quite proud tbh of where they are now from where they started,and I continue to watch their growth and maturing in this game. QG was directly involved with both from the start, providing that alliance backing and aid in a way only QG could do. now that QG isn't really the day-to-day face of the organization, as well as time goes by and things often change, 1 way or another, its not surprising to see Cap Acq leaving. at the same time, RA has become The Walmart of dust, everyone's welcome, constantly rolling back prices, and their headquarters are located in Arkansas... this is not a knock on Cap Acq. fact of the matter is you cant roll solo in Molden Heath. Of course they probably shoulda had a good long talk with DDB and the 'support' they get night in night out. DDB hasn't yet learned they are solely used for their EVE support and aside from that 0 fhuks given about their livelihood... sorry DDB, I really am, and I can only assume Cap Acq will learn this soon enough as well. Nyain San just flocks to whoever keeps the heat off them at the time, and undoubtedly will move elsewhere in due time. such is the nature of the beast Shephard is a standup guy, and Im sure he will be looking at the state of things and wont hesitate to pull out when he gets a whiff of whats really going on. just be patient. people have to learn for themselves
Woman are like bacon, They Smell , look, taste good and slowly kills men.
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Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
38
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Posted - 2014.01.31 18:23:00 -
[62] - Quote
... We are flattered this was created for us! ... Thank you Cubs. ... The dudes in STB leadership that we had the most contact with were/are awesome and always helped us when they could, or when we asked for it. ... We always try to field our own guys in our own PCs. We've had ringers from almost every corp out there and from time to time they were at the bottom of the list. Not a knock to them, but we just figured why not have our own players down there instead of ringers. ... If you see us in pubs, chances are we aren't wearing proto gear. $hit$ expensive. ... A lot of us started playing around the same time and have been with the corp for over 8 months. How many of you can say that? ... There will be a time when you say '#%*! Cap Acq is attacking.'
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
Jello Biafra = God
AQUPI
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Shepherd Grey
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
36
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:06:00 -
[63] - Quote
Ok, let's see if I can line these all up correctly. 1. OP - history lesson? when I pulled you out of D-Uni, you had talent. Where did you take it? only the most notorious district-locking corp out there. When you point fingers of bandwagon, look at the 3 pointed back at you. You aren't leadership, PD leaders hardly inquired as to CAP's opinions on any matters etc., therefore we owe our considerations to no one.
2. Our withdrawal from alliance was a reflection on the direction it was taking: simple as that. We stuck around through two wars with alliance, lost everything TWICE - thus proving we stand by those around us, no matter the cost. You're oblivious to the price my guys have paid defending platforms and deals we weren't privy to. Fusion, how much has mL lost for pd ever?
3. Leaving had absolutely NOTHING to do with ringers or help from anyone. I don't blame STB/ML not ringing for losing our land, I didn't ask them for help nor did I want it. When NS attacked everything we owned, we brought 16 CAP to every match and fought valiantly. When we could have abandoned PD to keep our land and save ourselves, we stood by our brothers in arms for one last hurrah. Tex and I didn't form this corp to ring out; if the men play, they deserve to compete.
4. We did, in fact, go independent. I sorely can attest that Cubs is right. Versing 8+ ringers defending four WarRavens locked districts that we sniped a week ago, we realized that 120 isn't enough clones when elite ringers have zero integrity in earning paychecks they don't need anyway. Without resolving to utilize the dirty tactics 70% of MH landholders do to keep their land, which we will never do, we found it difficult to progress alone given MH's current state-of-affairs.
5. We entered RA to squad/fight alongside people my guys enjoy playing with, as was the original case with PD (Sax Rage). Our time at PD was thoroughly enjoyed, as clearly stated in the withdrawal letter, and no malicious intent was behind it. Our relations with many individual alliance members remains constant, as does the friendships built between CAP's guys and theirs.
In the end, it's all about the guys and what it is THEY seek to fulfill out of this game. We leaders are merely facilitators, illustrating the group's opinion and exercising it fully without injecting selfish pursuit or gain. My men have fought without a paycheck from locked districts since we formed, and I wouldn't rather be surrounded by anyone else. We don't seek to gain elitist players by taking land and locking it, barring the community from genuinely enjoying this game for what it is. Rather, we men & women at CAP have forged a team as well as a family and hope to defend a MH free of exploits. Those among you wishing the same from your corp, voice it. When CCP fixes these farming fools, we'll see who has the talent then
All other questions, comments, inquiries can be directly funneled into their nearest receptacle. All dry cleaning, please forward to OP.
Regards, SG
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EuroTraining
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
7
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:28:00 -
[64] - Quote
No more questions. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
888
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:31:00 -
[65] - Quote
The following comment is mine alone and does not, in any way, reflect the thoughts or opinions of ML or PD
What CPL and Shepard wrote are both completely opposite regarding your decision to leave, I do find it funny that you try to bash Fusion and ML as being the "most notorious district locking corp out there". What measurments are you using to determine who is the "most notorious"?
History lesson, ML didn't start locking ANYTHING until it was made obvious and admitted to by Cubs himself that he was locking up his districts I believe during the FEC vs EoN "war".... So its OK for you to purchase your districts from the original OG triple OG gangster district locker himself (and I know districts were locked the first week of PC, but who remembers that anyway lol)... but yet you have the balls to thumb your nose at a corp like ML for simply learning from the best and following suit?
Since the very first district was "locked".. I have still seen first hand ML lose everything, every last district to the likes of OH and/or AE. We eventually get back into the fight.. and while yes most districts remain locked now... its just the current state of PC. Is it right? No. Do I condone it, hell no. Is everyone doing it? well yeah.. even the alliance you just joined. Would I abandon my corp over it, definetley not. To each his own tho...
Your post comes off like you are some high and mighty holier than thou corp when, in fact, you are quintessential band wagoners in a time when this game desperately needs less bandwagon, blue donut bullshit.
I wish you the best of luck, got no love loss for CA, don't really know anything about you all... but these posts by you guys are kinda hogwash and it would be in your best interest to not try and drag ML's name through the mud on your way to "relevant land". Fusion made this thread on his own accord... this was not a "Molon Labe. feels a certain way about CA".. it was one guys opinion, just leave it at that. |
CPL Bloodstone
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
257
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:51:00 -
[66] - Quote
ER-Bullitt wrote:The following comment is mine alone and does not, in any way, reflect the thoughts or opinions of ML or PD
What CPL and Shepard wrote are both completely opposite regarding your decision to leave, I do find it funny that you try to bash Fusion and ML as being the "most notorious district locking corp out there". What measurments are you using to determine who is the "most notorious"?
History lesson, ML didn't start locking ANYTHING until it was made obvious and admitted to by Cubs himself that he was locking up his districts I believe during the FEC vs EoN "war".... So its OK for you to purchase your districts from the original OG triple OG gangster district locker himself (and I know districts were locked the first week of PC, but who remembers that anyway lol)... but yet you have the balls to thumb your nose at a corp like ML for simply learning from the best and following suit?
Since the very first district was "locked".. I have still seen first hand ML lose everything, every last district to the likes of OH and/or AE. We eventually get back into the fight.. and while yes most districts remain locked now... its just the current state of PC. Is it right? No. Do I condone it, hell no. Is everyone doing it? well yeah.. even the alliance you just joined. Would I abandon my corp over it, definetley not. To each his own tho...
Your post comes off like you are some high and mighty holier than thou corp when, in fact, you are quintessential band wagoners in a time when this game desperately needs less bandwagon, blue donut bullshit.
I wish you the best of luck, got no love loss for CA, don't really know anything about you all... but these posts by you guys are kinda hogwash and it would be in your best interest to not try and drag ML's name through the mud on your way to "relevant land". Fusion made this thread on his own accord... this was not a "Molon Labe. feels a certain way about CA".. it was one guys opinion, just leave it at that.
As i said earlier, my statement was merely a perception on my part. Not the pure facts. That was stated by Shep. Also know, none of us have any ill will towards PD or its corp. Including myself. My issue's are with a few individuals not a particular corp. With that, im signing off this topic o/
Woman are like bacon, They Smell , look, taste good and slowly kills men.
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Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
44
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Posted - 2014.01.31 19:53:00 -
[67] - Quote
This interview is over! Get that camera out of my face!!
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
Jello Biafra = God
AQUPI
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XEROO COOL
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
476
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Posted - 2014.01.31 20:10:00 -
[68] - Quote
Texas Killionaire wrote:This interview is over! Get that camera out of my face!! F it... we'll do it live
Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face!
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Xeroo.Cool on Skype.
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Long Evity
1412
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Posted - 2014.01.31 20:19:00 -
[69] - Quote
Shepherd Grey wrote:Ok, let's see if I can line these all up correctly. 1. OP - history lesson? when I pulled you out of D-Uni, you had talent. Where did you take it? only the most notorious district-locking corp out there. When you point fingers of bandwagon, look at the 3 pointed back at you. You aren't leadership, PD leaders hardly inquired as to CAP's opinions on any matters etc., therefore we owe our considerations to no one. 2. Our withdrawal from alliance was a reflection on the direction it was taking: simple as that. We stuck around through two wars with alliance, lost everything TWICE - thus proving we stand by those around us, no matter the cost. You're oblivious to the price my guys have paid defending platforms and deals we weren't privy to. Fusion, how much has mL lost for pd ever? 3. Leaving had absolutely NOTHING to do with ringers or help from anyone. I don't blame STB/ML not ringing for losing our land, I didn't ask them for help nor did I want it. When NS attacked everything we owned, we brought 16 CAP to every match and fought valiantly. When we could have abandoned PD to keep our land and save ourselves, we stood by our brothers in arms for one last hurrah. Tex and I didn't form this corp to ring out; if the men play, they deserve to compete. 4. We did, in fact, go independent. I sorely can attest that Cubs is right. Versing 8+ ringers defending four WarRavens locked districts that we sniped a week ago, we realized that 120 isn't enough clones when elite ringers have zero integrity in earning paychecks they don't need anyway. Without resolving to utilize the dirty tactics 70% of MH landholders do to keep their land, which we will never do, we found it difficult to progress alone given MH's current state-of-affairs. 5. We entered RA to squad/fight alongside people my guys enjoy playing with, as was the original case with PD (Sax Rage). Our time at PD was thoroughly enjoyed, as clearly stated in the withdrawal letter, and no malicious intent was behind it. Our relations with many individual alliance members remains constant, as does the friendships built between CAP's guys and theirs. In the end, it's all about the guys and what it is THEY seek to fulfill out of this game. We leaders are merely facilitators, illustrating the group's opinion and exercising it fully without injecting selfish pursuit or gain. My men have fought without a paycheck from locked districts since we formed, and I wouldn't rather be surrounded by anyone else. We don't seek to gain elitist players by taking land and locking it, barring the community from genuinely enjoying this game for what it is. Rather, we men & women at CAP have forged a team as well as a family and hope to defend a MH free of exploits. Those among you wishing the same from your corp, voice it. When CCP fixes these farming fools, we'll see who has the talent then All other questions, comments, inquiries can be directly funneled into their nearest receptacle. All dry cleaning, please forward to OP. Regards, SG All respect for CAP restored. Great post. o7
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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CUBS UNbanned Alt
206
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Posted - 2014.01.31 20:23:00 -
[70] - Quote
Shepherd Grey wrote: 4. We did, in fact, go independent. I sorely can attest that Cubs is right. Versing 8+ ringers defending four WarRavens locked districts that we sniped a week ago, we realized that 120 isn't enough clones when elite ringers have zero integrity in earning paychecks they don't need anyway. Without resolving to utilize the dirty tactics 70% of MH landholders do to keep their land, which we will never do, we found it difficult to progress alone given MH's current state-of-affairs.
you realize these jabs just bounce off my extremely thick and non-Canadian skin right?
I have plenty of integrity. I don't take bribes from the other side to leave a battle ive already been paid to play, or to 'tank' my effort because the other side offered to pay me to do so.
I even seem to recall a meeting you and I had recently, where you specifically asked if I was hired by the other side for the match later that evening. I said no, I was available at the time as you approached me first. you declined, the other side approached me later, and I was on the other side... nothing personal, just business.
I respect you not using 'ringers' but you need to get over yourself. Its as much a part of the game as the dreaded 'protobears' in pubs.
seriously, consider your options here. I stay a mercenary and my guys are only paid by those asking for help, and business is good.
I go the other route, and all of a sudden your wife, kids, pets, and even Rampages blow-up doll are homeless or living in a 1974 chevy station wagon.
I think most prefer me staying a neutral merc, except apparently you of course
Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands
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Sentient Archon
1516
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Posted - 2014.01.31 20:26:00 -
[71] - Quote
CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote: using 'ringers' .... Its as much a part of the game as the dreaded 'protobears' in pubs
^This
The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
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Fusion Commander
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
76
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Posted - 2014.01.31 20:41:00 -
[72] - Quote
Shepherd Grey wrote:Ok, let's see if I can line these all up correctly. 1. OP - history lesson? when I pulled you out of D-Uni, you had talent. Where did you take it? only the most notorious district-locking corp out there. When you point fingers of bandwagon, look at the 3 pointed back at you. You aren't leadership, PD leaders hardly inquired as to CAP's opinions on any matters etc., therefore we owe our considerations to no one. 2. Our withdrawal from alliance was a reflection on the direction it was taking: simple as that. We stuck around through two wars with alliance, lost everything TWICE - thus proving we stand by those around us, no matter the cost. You're oblivious to the price my guys have paid defending platforms and deals we weren't privy to. Fusion, how much has mL lost for pd ever? 3. Leaving had absolutely NOTHING to do with ringers or help from anyone. I don't blame STB/ML not ringing for losing our land, I didn't ask them for help nor did I want it. When NS attacked everything we owned, we brought 16 CAP to every match and fought valiantly. When we could have abandoned PD to keep our land and save ourselves, we stood by our brothers in arms for one last hurrah. Tex and I didn't form this corp to ring out; if the men play, they deserve to compete. 4. We did, in fact, go independent. I sorely can attest that Cubs is right. Versing 8+ ringers defending four WarRavens locked districts that we sniped a week ago, we realized that 120 isn't enough clones when elite ringers have zero integrity in earning paychecks they don't need anyway. Without resolving to utilize the dirty tactics 70% of MH landholders do to keep their land, which we will never do, we found it difficult to progress alone given MH's current state-of-affairs. 5. We entered RA to squad/fight alongside people my guys enjoy playing with, as was the original case with PD (Sax Rage). Our time at PD was thoroughly enjoyed, as clearly stated in the withdrawal letter, and no malicious intent was behind it. Our relations with many individual alliance members remains constant, as does the friendships built between CAP's guys and theirs. In the end, it's all about the guys and what it is THEY seek to fulfill out of this game. We leaders are merely facilitators, illustrating the group's opinion and exercising it fully without injecting selfish pursuit or gain. My men have fought without a paycheck from locked districts since we formed, and I wouldn't rather be surrounded by anyone else. We don't seek to gain elitist players by taking land and locking it, barring the community from genuinely enjoying this game for what it is. Rather, we men & women at CAP have forged a team as well as a family and hope to defend a MH free of exploits. Those among you wishing the same from your corp, voice it. When CCP fixes these farming fools, we'll see who has the talent then All other questions, comments, inquiries can be directly funneled into their nearest receptacle. All dry cleaning, please forward to OP. Regards, SG
What does me going to ML have to do with any of what's being talked about here, is this your form of an insult? When I left D-Uni and went to ML I had no idea who they were or what they did just that my freinds and I were all encouraged by a freind to move for a change we had been in D-Uni for long enough and when I got on most of my freinds moved and without hesitation I applied. I had no involvement in the district locking that was going on and I dispise it. And your right I'm not leadership nor ever want to be. I am speaking for what I think I am speaking for no one but myself
I haven't experience much lose when it comes to districts (in ML) from not involving or from locking the districts. Losing your districts doesn't mean it's the end of the world just to me you just try harder next time. |
Fusion Commander
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
76
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Posted - 2014.01.31 20:44:00 -
[73] - Quote
Sentient Archon wrote:CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote: using 'ringers' .... Its as much a part of the game as the dreaded 'protobears' in pubs ^This
I second that |
XEROO COOL
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
476
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Posted - 2014.01.31 20:50:00 -
[74] - Quote
CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote:Shepherd Grey wrote: 4. We did, in fact, go independent. I sorely can attest that Cubs is right. Versing 8+ ringers defending four WarRavens locked districts that we sniped a week ago, we realized that 120 isn't enough clones when elite ringers have zero integrity in earning paychecks they don't need anyway. Without resolving to utilize the dirty tactics 70% of MH landholders do to keep their land, which we will never do, we found it difficult to progress alone given MH's current state-of-affairs.
I go the other route, and all of a sudden your wife, kids, pets, and even Rampages blow-up doll are homeless or living in a 1974 chevy station wagon. HAHAHAHAAHA takes breath... HAHAHAHAAHAH +1
Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face!
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Xeroo.Cool on Skype.
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
796
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Posted - 2014.01.31 21:52:00 -
[75] - Quote
Shepherd Grey wrote:Ok, let's see if I can line these all up correctly. 1. OP - history lesson? when I pulled you out of D-Uni, you had talent. Where did you take it? only the most notorious district-locking corp out there. When you point fingers of bandwagon, look at the 3 pointed back at you. You aren't leadership, PD leaders hardly inquired as to CAP's opinions on any matters etc., therefore we owe our considerations to no one. 2. Our withdrawal from alliance was a reflection on the direction it was taking: simple as that. We stuck around through two wars with alliance, lost everything TWICE - thus proving we stand by those around us, no matter the cost. You're oblivious to the price my guys have paid defending platforms and deals we weren't privy to. Fusion, how much has mL lost for pd ever? 3. Leaving had absolutely NOTHING to do with ringers or help from anyone. I don't blame STB/ML not ringing for losing our land, I didn't ask them for help nor did I want it. When NS attacked everything we owned, we brought 16 CAP to every match and fought valiantly. When we could have abandoned PD to keep our land and save ourselves, we stood by our brothers in arms for one last hurrah. Tex and I didn't form this corp to ring out; if the men play, they deserve to compete. 4. We did, in fact, go independent. I sorely can attest that Cubs is right. Versing 8+ ringers defending four WarRavens locked districts that we sniped a week ago, we realized that 120 isn't enough clones when elite ringers have zero integrity in earning paychecks they don't need anyway. Without resolving to utilize the dirty tactics 70% of MH landholders do to keep their land, which we will never do, we found it difficult to progress alone given MH's current state-of-affairs. 5. We entered RA to squad/fight alongside people my guys enjoy playing with, as was the original case with PD (Sax Rage). Our time at PD was thoroughly enjoyed, as clearly stated in the withdrawal letter, and no malicious intent was behind it. Our relations with many individual alliance members remains constant, as does the friendships built between CAP's guys and theirs. In the end, it's all about the guys and what it is THEY seek to fulfill out of this game. We leaders are merely facilitators, illustrating the group's opinion and exercising it fully without injecting selfish pursuit or gain. My men have fought without a paycheck from locked districts since we formed, and I wouldn't rather be surrounded by anyone else. We don't seek to gain elitist players by taking land and locking it, barring the community from genuinely enjoying this game for what it is. Rather, we men & women at CAP have forged a team as well as a family and hope to defend a MH free of exploits. Those among you wishing the same from your corp, voice it. When CCP fixes these farming fools, we'll see who has the talent then All other questions, comments, inquiries can be directly funneled into their nearest receptacle. All dry cleaning, please forward to OP. Regards, SG TL;DR version 1) LOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL you suck Fusion! U MAD U MAD U MAD U MAD!!!
My own personal questions: 2)Where the heck is Vin Vicious. We're currently 4-4 and I want to tdome him!
3)On a serious note, have you ever noticed you come across as preachy?
4)Fair warning, I've noticed you never posting any pro anime vids! your time in RA won't last if you don't get on that!
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi
41
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Posted - 2014.01.31 23:17:00 -
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Shepherd Grey wrote:Ok, let's see if I can line these all up correctly. 1. OP - history lesson? when I pulled you out of D-Uni, you had talent. Where did you take it? only the most notorious district-locking corp out there. When you point fingers of bandwagon, look at the 3 pointed back at you. You aren't leadership, PD leaders hardly inquired as to CAP's opinions on any matters etc., therefore we owe our considerations to no one. 2. Our withdrawal from alliance was a reflection on the direction it was taking: simple as that. We stuck around through two wars with alliance, lost everything TWICE - thus proving we stand by those around us, no matter the cost. You're oblivious to the price my guys have paid defending platforms and deals we weren't privy to. Fusion, how much has mL lost for pd ever? 3. Leaving had absolutely NOTHING to do with ringers or help from anyone. I don't blame STB/ML not ringing for losing our land, I didn't ask them for help nor did I want it. When NS attacked everything we owned, we brought 16 CAP to every match and fought valiantly. When we could have abandoned PD to keep our land and save ourselves, we stood by our brothers in arms for one last hurrah. Tex and I didn't form this corp to ring out; if the men play, they deserve to compete. 4. We did, in fact, go independent. I sorely can attest that Cubs is right. Versing 8+ ringers defending four WarRavens locked districts that we sniped a week ago, we realized that 120 isn't enough clones when elite ringers have zero integrity in earning paychecks they don't need anyway. Without resolving to utilize the dirty tactics 70% of MH landholders do to keep their land, which we will never do, we found it difficult to progress alone given MH's current state-of-affairs. 5. We entered RA to squad/fight alongside people my guys enjoy playing with, as was the original case with PD (Sax Rage). Our time at PD was thoroughly enjoyed, as clearly stated in the withdrawal letter, and no malicious intent was behind it. Our relations with many individual alliance members remains constant, as does the friendships built between CAP's guys and theirs. In the end, it's all about the guys and what it is THEY seek to fulfill out of this game. We leaders are merely facilitators, illustrating the group's opinion and exercising it fully without injecting selfish pursuit or gain. My men have fought without a paycheck from locked districts since we formed, and I wouldn't rather be surrounded by anyone else. We don't seek to gain elitist players by taking land and locking it, barring the community from genuinely enjoying this game for what it is. Rather, we men & women at CAP have forged a team as well as a family and hope to defend a MH free of exploits. Those among you wishing the same from your corp, voice it. When CCP fixes these farming fools, we'll see who has the talent then All other questions, comments, inquiries can be directly funneled into their nearest receptacle. All dry cleaning, please forward to OP. Regards, SG I remember seeing you guys build up and grow many months ago from certain players in my local chat inviting me to your public chat. I didn't really know anything about you guys but when MadMatt told me that you were going to fight ringer free and say **** that district locking crap, you got my respect. Also, what you said about leaders merely being facilitators made me respect you even more. So many leaders don't say things like that.
Will awoky woky Rampage in PC for Chucky Cheese tokens. I finally reached 1Mil isk guys! C C P corp is a scruby corp. :P
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ragewardog
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
106
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Posted - 2014.01.31 23:40:00 -
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
2012
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Posted - 2014.02.01 01:10:00 -
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CA LLC =
There is no chance of me winning this game, therefore I am going to hide in the hills with RR and sniper rifles
LAMFO
Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset
I Slay, for thy Empress
Do you even PC... Brah
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Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
45
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Posted - 2014.02.01 01:39:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:CA LLC =
There is no chance of me winning this game, therefore I am going to hide in the hills with RR and sniper rifles
LAMFO
I guess that works. We're trying to snipe off these locked districts with clone packs. Then we'll get uplinks down, swarm the point, capture it then guard it with HMGs. Melting faces all the while. Sounds like a plan ChanningTakeYum. Lulz
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
Jello Biafra = God
AQUPI
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Bloodthirsty Heathen
Talledos Inc
33
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Posted - 2014.02.01 02:50:00 -
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CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote: using 'ringers' .... Its as much a part of the game as the dreaded 'protobears' in pubs
Have any of you watched the CCP Dust 514 Introductory Video, it says right there .. "You might find yourself fighting for ideals, or for money, or simply because is what you are good at",
It's just like the religious people who debate me and have never read their fuckiing 'holy books'.
Idiots.
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iliel
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
9
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:44:00 -
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The way I see it is: ringing is fine; there is an upside and downside to ringing - - that is, getting players who may be /are individually better than your corp's members, but who are generally not as familiar with your corp's team strategies. I respect Cubs and others (even Regnyum). I think they're damn good players and do nothing wrong when it comes to 'playing the game.'
District locking, on the other hand, is an in-game exploit. While ML may not have been the first district lockers (I'm not familiar with Dust 'history'), they did district lock at a time when it was implemented as a way to avoid attacks and to accumulate Isk. That is, they exploited the system to make personal profits without risk. (I would contrast this with RA, who have now locked their districts to encourage CCP to fix (i.e., remove) this exploit of PC from the game.)
While I wish ringers did not ring for corps who district lock - - especially for the defense (when the corp has more than three times the number of clones as the attacker), I at the same time don't blame ringers for going where the Isk is. That is only natural in a game with mercenaries.
As for why CA left PD, I don't know the 'official' reason, since I'm not in CA's 'management'. However, I do know a personal reason for me to encourage CA's 'managemnt' to leave and have nothing to do with PD or its members was that during the 'war' with RA, a war which CA neither initiated nor formally endorsed (since neither ML nor STB asked CA what we thought about the groundds for the war...), there was a point in time when CA had several PC battles with NS,. Now, two of these took place at the same time. So, as you might expect, CA needed some people to help. Logically (I think logically...), we asked who we thought were at the time our 'allies' to help. Now, not only did almost no one help (two of Dethdealers' and two Poison Roses' members did help), but almost no one responded. That is, STB, ML, Thid Day, Rising Suns said absolutely nothing in alliance chat in response to our request to help with the battle. They didn't say 'hey, we're not helping because X.' So CA sent 8 people into a battle against 16 NS...
From my perspective, it seemed that someone in the alliance told everyone except CA not to help CA. This follows from the fact that CA refused to help STB when they were in a PC against AE. The reason for this was that CA's CEO (Shepherd) was not present at the time STB asked for help. Before that, Shepherd had told us not to ring against AE. Indeed, AE had been a supportful friend of CA in this game for several months. So to help fight them because of something going on with STB - - something which, I should note, STB felt was not for CA to know - - this appeared silly. But either way, no member of CA was willing to contradict what our CEO told us. And since no one from STB or ML had discussed the 'war' with Shepherd, he never had a chance to reconsider his position about AE (a point which is not to imply he would have changed his mind). So, as we told STB, we could not ring against AE. And, because of this, it seems, STB (and ML) did not want to help CA with NS.
But I'm not upset by the fact that almost no one in our past alliance helped. Chances are we would've lost either way. (I mean, really, how much help could a corp/alliance who needs a non-alliance corp to do all their work for them be.) Rather, I'm upset that no one said they wouldn't help and why. I think it's silly to play a game with a group of people who don't have enough common courtesy to simply explain when they will or will not help with what some might consider was at one time the most competitive aspect of the game.
So, for me, leaving STB was about being independent to discover who in this game actually is respectful enough to play the game fairly (i.e., not lock districts to profit wihout risk), tell us when they can and cannot help, and show some general respect for us as other players of this game. RA was an obvious choice. And I'm glad we applied and that they've accepted us.
For me, all this is simple and doesn't really warrant such an 'explanation.' But if you want to point the finger at supposed hypocrites, I'd suggest pointing it at those who say they're the best, who say they have integrity and are game players, etc., but yet exploit the game, lock their districts, talk about how small corps 'have to' lock them (even though they are in the top three largest corps in the game), claim not to be elitists, yet for whatever reason think having more isk is a good thing... I mean doesn't it determine who are the better players? I'd point it at those who criticize other corps for not having the best players and yet who ring an ENTIRE TEAM of another corp in order to win their battles.
Let me just say that those to whom I'm referring here are not intended to be wholly not identifiable. |
Long Evity
1419
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Posted - 2014.02.01 04:18:00 -
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iliel wrote: For me, all this is simple and doesn't really warrant such an 'explanation.' But if you want to point the finger at supposed hypocrites, I'd suggest pointing it at those who say they're the best, who say they have integrity and are game players, etc., but yet exploit the game, lock their districts, talk about how small corps 'have to' lock them (even though they are in the top three largest corps in the game), claim not to be elitists, yet for whatever reason think having more isk is a good thing... I mean doesn't it determine who are the better players? I'd point it at those who criticize other corps for not having the best players and yet who ring an ENTIRE TEAM of another corp in order to win their battles.
Let me just say that those to whom I'm referring here are not intended to be wholly not identifiable.
It's hard to say who you're talking about when you say, "They're in top three largest..."
It's either STB, AE, DDB, NS, ML, or PX1. I wonder which :O
Because if being hypocrites about morality is an issue - you just joined the worst of them all - AE. So I'm guessing, that's who it is. But that makes no sense?? You just joined them!?
Gah - I'm so confused. :)
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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DJINN Kujo
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
923
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Posted - 2014.02.01 11:01:00 -
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To set the record straight for everyone - AE is not the only corp in RA.
AE. though has continued close relations with Shepherd Grey from Capital Acquisitions LLC. Nyain San had attacked all their districts and offered them their land if they left PD. They essentially told Nyain to suck it and stayed for the fights and took the loss for their alliance.
Their nobility is strong, I actually haven't even been on to welcome them and they have been in for a few days now, sigh *work*. So some of you are right about them being on different playing ground and that's fine. But a promise to Capital Acquisitions I personally made to them was that I would help them succeed, which I know is going to cause a lot of questions. As in, will AE. be helping them take land? Answer is no. - For a long time, a lot of veteran corporations have told me to help a lesser experienced corporation out, well that's what my goal is with Capital Acquisitions. Although my own activity is shaky, I will still render any resources I have at my personal disposal to help them. No, not ISK either. Just fundamentals of PC and the competitive roots this game has in opposing points of view.
Ancient Exiles, CEO
Your failure to plan ahead does not constitute an emergency on my end.
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iliel
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
9
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Posted - 2014.02.01 11:11:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:iliel wrote: For me, all this is simple and doesn't really warrant such an 'explanation.' But if you want to point the finger at supposed hypocrites, I'd suggest pointing it at those who say they're the best, who say they have integrity and are game players, etc., but yet exploit the game, lock their districts, talk about how small corps 'have to' lock them (even though they are in the top three largest corps in the game), claim not to be elitists, yet for whatever reason think having more isk is a good thing... I mean doesn't it determine who are the better players? I'd point it at those who criticize other corps for not having the best players and yet who ring an ENTIRE TEAM of another corp in order to win their battles.
Let me just say that those to whom I'm referring here are not intended to be wholly not identifiable.
It's hard to say who you're talking about when you say, "They're in top three largest..." It's either STB, AE, DDB, NS, ML, or PX1. I wonder which :O Because if being hypocrites about morality is an issue - you just joined the worst of them all - AE. So I'm guessing, that's who it is. But that makes no sense?? You just joined them!? Gah - I'm so confused. :)
You might want to double check how many members are in each corp . . . The following might help: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/districts/alliances.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
2401
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Posted - 2014.02.01 11:31:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:tl:dr We do what we want when we want and dont care what you think. If it benefits us, it benefits us regardless of your opinion.
(True) part of the reason CA left PD was because it was a stipulation of mine that if i was to join the leadership of CA that they leave PD. Lucky for me, it was already in the process =).
(My perception) I believe that CA rarely received assistance from PD corps and it was all about STB and kinda about ML. Capital aquisition has really grown over time and does very well on their own but sometimes due to timers and what not, you just need assistance. That is were PD fell thru the cracks.
(reason for joining RA)
We had all intentions of remaining solo for an undecided amount of time. Just so happens that thru fun matches and such with RA corps, that it was brought up about us joining RA. Each corp within RA can stand on its own without help. How much greater if you takes those corps and put them into an Alliance to make each corp stronger. That is what we truely get from it. I believe its a good fit not only for us but also for RA. Plus its really nice to know if we get into a pinch, we have awesome teams that will back us up. I do not have any information regarding prices if any on our alliance members ringing.
I like this response .....
"We joined the bandwagon...so what?"
You have to respect that :D
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
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excillon
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
205
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Posted - 2014.02.01 11:33:00 -
[86] - Quote
Ydubbs81 RND wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:tl:dr We do what we want when we want and dont care what you think. If it benefits us, it benefits us regardless of your opinion.
(True) part of the reason CA left PD was because it was a stipulation of mine that if i was to join the leadership of CA that they leave PD. Lucky for me, it was already in the process =).
(My perception) I believe that CA rarely received assistance from PD corps and it was all about STB and kinda about ML. Capital aquisition has really grown over time and does very well on their own but sometimes due to timers and what not, you just need assistance. That is were PD fell thru the cracks.
(reason for joining RA)
We had all intentions of remaining solo for an undecided amount of time. Just so happens that thru fun matches and such with RA corps, that it was brought up about us joining RA. Each corp within RA can stand on its own without help. How much greater if you takes those corps and put them into an Alliance to make each corp stronger. That is what we truely get from it. I believe its a good fit not only for us but also for RA. Plus its really nice to know if we get into a pinch, we have awesome teams that will back us up. I do not have any information regarding prices if any on our alliance members ringing. I like this response ..... "We joined the bandwagon...so what?" You have to respect that :D
lol...you got that too?
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
360
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Posted - 2014.02.01 11:59:00 -
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Sorry to see you guys go, CA. Always had fun squadding with you. Best of luck....Leadfoot |
CUBS UNbanned Alt
209
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Posted - 2014.02.01 15:04:00 -
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DJINN Kujo wrote:To set the record straight for everyone - AE is not the only corp in RA.
AE. though has continued close relations with Shepherd Grey from Capital Acquisitions LLC. Nyain San had attacked all their districts and offered them their land if they left PD. They essentially told Nyain to suck it and stayed for the fights and took the loss for their alliance.
Their nobility is strong, I actually haven't even been on to welcome them and they have been in for a few days now, sigh *work*. So some of you are right about them being on different playing ground and that's fine. But a promise to Capital Acquisitions I personally made to them was that I would help them succeed, which I know is going to cause a lot of questions. As in, will AE. be helping them take land? Answer is no. - For a long time, a lot of veteran corporations have told me to help a lesser experienced corporation out, well that's what my goal is with Capital Acquisitions. Although my own activity is shaky, I will still render any resources I have at my personal disposal to help them. No, not ISK either. Just fundamentals of PC and the competitive roots this game has in opposing points of view.
wont play their matches...check shepherd wont let u play their matches....check
ahhh i get it now. give em some land so they dont have to qq about clone packs, and keep supplying them when they run out, at a cost of course.
good business model wish i woulda thought of it.
bottom line good PR for an alliance in need of such. good move
and tbh having Cap Acq to help your alliance is way more of an asset. they dont back down and turtle up :P
Bowser FTW
Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands
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Long Evity
1422
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Posted - 2014.02.01 16:04:00 -
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iliel wrote:Long Evity wrote:iliel wrote: For me, all this is simple and doesn't really warrant such an 'explanation.' But if you want to point the finger at supposed hypocrites, I'd suggest pointing it at those who say they're the best, who say they have integrity and are game players, etc., but yet exploit the game, lock their districts, talk about how small corps 'have to' lock them (even though they are in the top three largest corps in the game), claim not to be elitists, yet for whatever reason think having more isk is a good thing... I mean doesn't it determine who are the better players? I'd point it at those who criticize other corps for not having the best players and yet who ring an ENTIRE TEAM of another corp in order to win their battles.
Let me just say that those to whom I'm referring here are not intended to be wholly not identifiable.
It's hard to say who you're talking about when you say, "They're in top three largest..." It's either STB, AE, DDB, NS, ML, or PX1. I wonder which :O Because if being hypocrites about morality is an issue - you just joined the worst of them all - AE. So I'm guessing, that's who it is. But that makes no sense?? You just joined them!? Gah - I'm so confused. :) You might want to double check how many members are in each corp . . . The following might help: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/districts/alliances. If the link worked - it might of helped. But I highly doubt he's referring to largest as being the most populated. I take insinuations where they exist - but his words are easily mis-contruded to mean almost anyone, though he wants the person he's insulting to understand it's him.
We all know he's pointing to Cubs - but for the reasons he mentioned for disliking cubs, morale issues mostly, AE is even worse off with. The only recently took morale high ground with district locking - AND THAT'S IT. I hope LLC thought things through, because a lot of the posts here imply that Capital Inq has no ******* clue about anything outside of there group.
Lol, oh well. If cap wants to chill with the glitch to winners that's there call. :3
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
1422
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Posted - 2014.02.01 16:07:00 -
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DJINN Kujo wrote:To set the record straight for everyone - AE is not the only corp in RA.
AE. though has continued close relations with Shepherd Grey from Capital Acquisitions LLC. Nyain San had attacked all their districts and offered them their land if they left PD. They essentially told Nyain to suck it and stayed for the fights and took the loss for their alliance.
Their nobility is strong, I actually haven't even been on to welcome them and they have been in for a few days now, sigh *work*. So some of you are right about them being on different playing ground and that's fine. But a promise to Capital Acquisitions I personally made to them was that I would help them succeed, which I know is going to cause a lot of questions. As in, will AE. be helping them take land? Answer is no. - For a long time, a lot of veteran corporations have told me to help a lesser experienced corporation out, well that's what my goal is with Capital Acquisitions. Although my own activity is shaky, I will still render any resources I have at my personal disposal to help them. No, not ISK either. Just fundamentals of PC and the competitive roots this game has in opposing points of view. You're acting like Capital Aq isn't an already established corp - they don't need to be piggy backed or held hands - they barely needs ringers and there wallet isn't empty. IF anything they said here is true - AE won't be doing anything to help them at all other then giving them a good time in there alliance. So which is it - are you buddies - or are they your pet project?
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
202
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Posted - 2014.02.01 18:13:00 -
[91] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:To set the record straight for everyone - AE is not the only corp in RA.
AE. though has continued close relations with Shepherd Grey from Capital Acquisitions LLC. Nyain San had attacked all their districts and offered them their land if they left PD. They essentially told Nyain to suck it and stayed for the fights and took the loss for their alliance.
Their nobility is strong, I actually haven't even been on to welcome them and they have been in for a few days now, sigh *work*. So some of you are right about them being on different playing ground and that's fine. But a promise to Capital Acquisitions I personally made to them was that I would help them succeed, which I know is going to cause a lot of questions. As in, will AE. be helping them take land? Answer is no. - For a long time, a lot of veteran corporations have told me to help a lesser experienced corporation out, well that's what my goal is with Capital Acquisitions. Although my own activity is shaky, I will still render any resources I have at my personal disposal to help them. No, not ISK either. Just fundamentals of PC and the competitive roots this game has in opposing points of view. You're acting like Capital Aq isn't an already established corp - they don't need to be piggy backed or held hands - they barely needs ringers and there wallet isn't empty. IF anything they said here is true - AE won't be doing anything to help them at all other then giving them a good time in there alliance. So which is it - are you buddies - or are they your pet project?
Why care? |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
897
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Posted - 2014.02.01 18:41:00 -
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Why not care? |
weccer
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2014.02.01 20:14:00 -
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Fusion Commander wrote:I thought when you guys said you were going to become independent not hop on the bandwagon and go Renegade Alliance
Should've seen that coming to be honest Hey yo true story!!! So I was low on isk and wanted a cheap drink. I decided I'd go down to the Ancient Exiles. pub. It was a lively scene. You had your casual customers theyre having a good time most them talking to themselves. Kujo was sitting up on the balcony in the dark trying to play the boss that he is. Arirana was everywhere at once hitting on every guy in the pub. Talking about how she had fast arm movements, knew how to glitch an entire map. Djinn Ramp was trying to talk to anyone or rather get everyones attention by talkin about how good he was. Reminded me of a needy dog really. Marauder being the small guy that he is was trying to watch Hen....anime in the anime lounge which was really awesome. At the same time trying to fight everybody because he was so smashed. Also for some strange reason. This vagheitan guy was sitting way up on the rafters with his nanos all set up railrifle in hand trying to call everybody out to a fight. At the same time Djinn soul and Kalente were laughin so hard at this dude because he wouldnt come down for a fight. Then all of a sudden. I see Kujo get up and walk out the backdoor followed by Munson who had a leash on being dragged by Kujo. Shepard and a couple other directors also followed. I was curious so I go out into the back alley peek around the corner and...they were all...ugh...nvm. Anyways they all get up from their knees and Kujo says "Welcome to the family. That felt good." Kujo heads to the bar and I overheard his conversation with the bartender. Kujo says " I seriously didnt want them hear but, it felt good, so they can stay." Thats how capital joined the RA. |
Long Evity
1441
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Posted - 2014.02.01 20:40:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:Long Evity wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:To set the record straight for everyone - AE is not the only corp in RA.
AE. though has continued close relations with Shepherd Grey from Capital Acquisitions LLC. Nyain San had attacked all their districts and offered them their land if they left PD. They essentially told Nyain to suck it and stayed for the fights and took the loss for their alliance.
Their nobility is strong, I actually haven't even been on to welcome them and they have been in for a few days now, sigh *work*. So some of you are right about them being on different playing ground and that's fine. But a promise to Capital Acquisitions I personally made to them was that I would help them succeed, which I know is going to cause a lot of questions. As in, will AE. be helping them take land? Answer is no. - For a long time, a lot of veteran corporations have told me to help a lesser experienced corporation out, well that's what my goal is with Capital Acquisitions. Although my own activity is shaky, I will still render any resources I have at my personal disposal to help them. No, not ISK either. Just fundamentals of PC and the competitive roots this game has in opposing points of view. You're acting like Capital Aq isn't an already established corp - they don't need to be piggy backed or held hands - they barely needs ringers and there wallet isn't empty. IF anything they said here is true - AE won't be doing anything to help them at all other then giving them a good time in there alliance. So which is it - are you buddies - or are they your pet project? Why care? I probably care about as much as you do about this reply - which is less the mild at best.
I just like to point things out. ^_^
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
202
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Posted - 2014.02.01 20:44:00 -
[95] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:bigolenuts wrote:Long Evity wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:To set the record straight for everyone - AE is not the only corp in RA.
AE. though has continued close relations with Shepherd Grey from Capital Acquisitions LLC. Nyain San had attacked all their districts and offered them their land if they left PD. They essentially told Nyain to suck it and stayed for the fights and took the loss for their alliance.
Their nobility is strong, I actually haven't even been on to welcome them and they have been in for a few days now, sigh *work*. So some of you are right about them being on different playing ground and that's fine. But a promise to Capital Acquisitions I personally made to them was that I would help them succeed, which I know is going to cause a lot of questions. As in, will AE. be helping them take land? Answer is no. - For a long time, a lot of veteran corporations have told me to help a lesser experienced corporation out, well that's what my goal is with Capital Acquisitions. Although my own activity is shaky, I will still render any resources I have at my personal disposal to help them. No, not ISK either. Just fundamentals of PC and the competitive roots this game has in opposing points of view. You're acting like Capital Aq isn't an already established corp - they don't need to be piggy backed or held hands - they barely needs ringers and there wallet isn't empty. IF anything they said here is true - AE won't be doing anything to help them at all other then giving them a good time in there alliance. So which is it - are you buddies - or are they your pet project? Why care? I probably care about as much as you do about this reply - which is less the mild at best. I just like to point things out. ^_^
Pointing out the obvious it seems. You must have some John Madden in you
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
202
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Posted - 2014.02.01 20:46:00 -
[96] - Quote
ER-Bullitt wrote:Why not care?
You're deep man, real deep. |
Long Evity
1441
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Posted - 2014.02.01 20:46:00 -
[97] - Quote
bigolenuts wrote:Long Evity wrote:bigolenuts wrote:Long Evity wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:To set the record straight for everyone - AE is not the only corp in RA.
AE. though has continued close relations with Shepherd Grey from Capital Acquisitions LLC. Nyain San had attacked all their districts and offered them their land if they left PD. They essentially told Nyain to suck it and stayed for the fights and took the loss for their alliance.
Their nobility is strong, I actually haven't even been on to welcome them and they have been in for a few days now, sigh *work*. So some of you are right about them being on different playing ground and that's fine. But a promise to Capital Acquisitions I personally made to them was that I would help them succeed, which I know is going to cause a lot of questions. As in, will AE. be helping them take land? Answer is no. - For a long time, a lot of veteran corporations have told me to help a lesser experienced corporation out, well that's what my goal is with Capital Acquisitions. Although my own activity is shaky, I will still render any resources I have at my personal disposal to help them. No, not ISK either. Just fundamentals of PC and the competitive roots this game has in opposing points of view. You're acting like Capital Aq isn't an already established corp - they don't need to be piggy backed or held hands - they barely needs ringers and there wallet isn't empty. IF anything they said here is true - AE won't be doing anything to help them at all other then giving them a good time in there alliance. So which is it - are you buddies - or are they your pet project? Why care? I probably care about as much as you do about this reply - which is less the mild at best. I just like to point things out. ^_^ Pointing out the obvious it seems. You must have some John Madden in you Oh it's obvious? Lol - cool, well, if everyone else sees it as obvious then that's pretty cool.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
202
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Posted - 2014.02.01 20:51:00 -
[98] - Quote
[/quote] Oh it's obvious? Lol - cool, well, if everyone else sees it as obvious then that's pretty cool. [/quote]
Do you need the backing of the community with every post? Can't you just do what you do and accept whatever it brings? Who cares if everyone else sees it. You are the one doing the pointing
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Long Evity
1445
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Posted - 2014.02.01 20:57:00 -
[99] - Quote
uhm, I know you're trying to make a point, but it weird. I'm obviously pointing something out... for everyone to see... so why would I not want... people to see it?
If it's 'obvious' then that's cool - that's how it goes. All it means is i didn't realize how obvious it is. idk where this rant of yours came from.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
202
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Posted - 2014.02.01 20:59:00 -
[100] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:uhm, I know you're trying to make a point, but it weird. I'm obviously pointing something out... for everyone to see... so why would I not want... people to see it?
If it's 'obvious' then that's cool - that's how it goes. All it means is i didn't realize how obvious it is. idk where this rant of yours came from.
Rant? Not hardly. Just a comment. |
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Gildart Lightray
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
82
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Posted - 2014.02.01 21:03:00 -
[101] - Quote
to many posts to read and by the first 2 pages I could already tell who has going to post here and what they would say.
#lolCommunity
Yo Fusion, don't join AE. The talent needs to stop gravitating to one.....I'm going to stop now. Because im sure i've this before and lolLogic will come out of nowhere.
Forum Warrior lvl. 0
This scrub is for hire
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Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
46
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Posted - 2014.02.01 21:09:00 -
[102] - Quote
weccer wrote:Fusion Commander wrote:I thought when you guys said you were going to become independent not hop on the bandwagon and go Renegade Alliance
Should've seen that coming to be honest Hey yo true story!!! So I was low on isk and wanted a cheap drink. I decided I'd go down to the Ancient Exiles. pub. It was a lively scene. You had your casual customers theyre having a good time most them talking to themselves. Kujo was sitting up on the balcony in the dark trying to play the boss that he is. Arirana was everywhere at once hitting on every guy in the pub. Talking about how she had fast arm movements, knew how to glitch an entire map. Djinn Ramp was trying to talk to anyone or rather get everyones attention by talkin about how good he was. Reminded me of a needy dog really. Marauder being the small guy that he is was trying to watch Hen....anime in the anime lounge which was really awesome. At the same time trying to fight everybody because he was so smashed. Also for some strange reason. This vagheitan guy was sitting way up on the rafters with his nanos all set up railrifle in hand trying to call everybody out to a fight. At the same time Djinn soul and Kalente were laughin so hard at this dude because he wouldnt come down for a fight. Then all of a sudden. I see Kujo get up and walk out the backdoor followed by Munson who had a leash on being dragged by Kujo. Shepard and a couple other directors also followed. I was curious so I go out into the back alley peek around the corner and...they were all...ugh...nvm. Anyways they all get up from their knees and Kujo says "Welcome to the family. That felt good." Kujo heads to the bar and I overheard his conversation with the bartender. Kujo says " I seriously didnt want them hear but, it felt good, so they can stay." Thats how capital joined the RA.
Lulz. See? We're will to go the full mile. All STB wanted was handjobs. (Quick wanted a footjob)
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
Jello Biafra = God
AQUPI
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
802
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Posted - 2014.02.01 21:24:00 -
[103] - Quote
Texas Killionaire wrote:weccer wrote:Fusion Commander wrote:I thought when you guys said you were going to become independent not hop on the bandwagon and go Renegade Alliance
Should've seen that coming to be honest Hey yo true story!!! So I was low on isk and wanted a cheap drink. I decided I'd go down to the Ancient Exiles. pub. It was a lively scene. You had your casual customers theyre having a good time most them talking to themselves. Kujo was sitting up on the balcony in the dark trying to play the boss that he is. Arirana was everywhere at once hitting on every guy in the pub. Talking about how she had fast arm movements, knew how to glitch an entire map. Djinn Ramp was trying to talk to anyone or rather get everyones attention by talkin about how good he was. Reminded me of a needy dog really. Marauder being the small guy that he is was trying to watch Hen....anime in the anime lounge which was really awesome. At the same time trying to fight everybody because he was so smashed. Also for some strange reason. This vagheitan guy was sitting way up on the rafters with his nanos all set up railrifle in hand trying to call everybody out to a fight. At the same time Djinn soul and Kalente were laughin so hard at this dude because he wouldnt come down for a fight. Then all of a sudden. I see Kujo get up and walk out the backdoor followed by Munson who had a leash on being dragged by Kujo. Shepard and a couple other directors also followed. I was curious so I go out into the back alley peek around the corner and...they were all...ugh...nvm. Anyways they all get up from their knees and Kujo says "Welcome to the family. That felt good." Kujo heads to the bar and I overheard his conversation with the bartender. Kujo says " I seriously didnt want them hear but, it felt good, so they can stay." Thats how capital joined the RA. Lulz. See? We're will to go the full mile. All STB wanted was handjobs. (Quick wanted a footjob) Meh, I would've just asked for you to cook me supper, tired of being the only guy to cook for you ungrateful meanies.
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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iliel
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
9
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:04:00 -
[104] - Quote
Leadfoot10 wrote:Sorry to see you guys go, CA. Always had fun squadding with you. Best of luck....Leadfoot
Thanks Leadfoot. I look forward to seeing you around the heath . . . |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1531
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Posted - 2014.02.02 06:08:00 -
[105] - Quote
CPL Bloodstone wrote:Fusion Commander wrote:[quote=CPL Bloodstone]tl:dr We do what we want when we want and dont care what you think. If it benefits us, it benefits us regardless of your opinion.
(True) part of the reason CA left PD was because it was a stipulation of mine that if i was to join the leadership of CA that they leave PD. Lucky for me, it was already in the process =).
(My perception) I believe that CA rarely received assistance from PD corps and it was all about STB and kinda about ML. Capital aquisition has really grown over time and does very well on their own but sometimes due to timers and what not, you just need assistance. That is were PD fell thru the cracks.[/quo
Was there a time where you asked for help and didn't get any or we just ignored you. Ever time I've seen you guys ask you had a good 5-7 people x up. Whenever you guys asked me to help in pc only time I couldn't help is when we had pc of our own. And did you guys ever try to discuss the issue with other leadership? I cannot say anything truthfull to this statement. I don't know the details of this. Sorry
Its actually pretty difficult for an alliance to help one of its corps when that corp 1.) doesn't let anyone know when they have battles, and/or 2.) when they do let people know, they refuse to use anyone but there own guys.......
No single corp in this alliance has the job of babysitting any other corp. If CA needed help in a fight, all they would have to do is message any of the other corps a day in advance. To go as far as claiming our 1000+ man alliance refused to lend help is just ridiculous. I know for a fact STB would have been more then willing to help if we knew somebody needed it. And im confident that any of the other corps in our alliance shares that stance. Hell, even if CA gave us 30 min, to 1 hours worth of notice we could still probably get a group of guys ready in time without much trouble.
As far as people claiming "its all about stb and molan" well no sh*t...... if our two corps have more then half of the alliances district total, then of course theres going to be more focus on us because were naturally going to have more battles to deal with.
The only time help would get refused by any of our corps is if we were required to field for our own battles at the same time. Or, like I said, if we don't get any advanced warning. Typing in alliance leadership "hey we need some ringers" is a terrible way to get anyones attention. Not everyone checks chat channels, and even if they do, depending on that persons role in the corp they may not even respond to that. If you wait to the last minute, you better hope you send a mail, and hope that person you mailed wasn't just loading up into a match. Otherwise its your own fault for not preparing.........
For example, Today STB took a district away from DDB. We were about to start our attack on another DDB district with intentions to take it. We knew, based off how soundly we had beaten DDB the previous three matches in a row, that they would likely ring AE for there next districts defense. Knowing this, we attempted to get in contact with FA with the hopes of hiring them to field for us. (because, idk if this needs to be said but there track record fighting AE is MUCH better then our track record with AE). However, because we didn't contact them in advance they refused to help us because sending one squad in would have just hurt us even more because of how that would have damged the teams overall synergy. But did STB get mad at FA and say "were done working with you because you refused to help us!!"...... no..... we manned up, went into the match and lost to AE by 2 MCC tickets. It was a good game despite the loss. We have every intention of continuing a friendly business relationship with FA, and we know that the only reason they refused is because of the short notice we gave them.
Its really that simple. lol at "refusing to help"...... we ring at least one squad of guys every other day. Lately its been a little slow given the current...... circumstances in pc. But I just cant believe anyone's claims to not helping. Especially when 70% of the districts our allied corps owned were districts we gave to them after the prdox war...... (CA may have been the exception to that, I cant remember if we gave them any districts but I want to say no..... not sure).
Marston VC, STB Director
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1531
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Posted - 2014.02.02 06:18:00 -
[106] - Quote
iliel wrote:The way I see it is: ringing is fine; there is an upside and downside to ringing - - that is, getting players who may be /are individually better than your corp's members, but who are generally not as familiar with your corp's team strategies. I respect Cubs and others (even Regnyum). I think they're damn good players and do nothing wrong when it comes to 'playing the game.'
District locking, on the other hand, is an in-game exploit. While ML may not have been the first district lockers (I'm not familiar with Dust 'history'), they did district lock at a time when it was implemented as a way to avoid attacks and to accumulate Isk. That is, they exploited the system to make personal profits without risk. (I would contrast this with RA, who have now locked their districts to encourage CCP to fix (i.e., remove) this exploit of PC from the game.)
While I wish ringers did not ring for corps who district lock - - especially for the defense (when the corp has more than three times the number of clones as the attacker), I at the same time don't blame ringers for going where the Isk is. That is only natural in a game with mercenaries.
As for why CA left PD, I don't know the 'official' reason, since I'm not in CA's 'management'. However, I do know a personal reason for me to encourage CA's 'managemnt' to leave and have nothing to do with PD or its members was that during the 'war' with RA, a war which CA neither initiated nor formally endorsed (since neither ML nor STB asked CA what we thought about the groundds for the war...), there was a point in time when CA had several PC battles with NS,. Now, two of these took place at the same time. So, as you might expect, CA needed some people to help. Logically (I think logically...), we asked who we thought were at the time our 'allies' to help. Now, not only did almost no one help (two of Dethdealers' and two Poison Roses' members did help), but almost no one responded. That is, STB, ML, Thid Day, Rising Suns said absolutely nothing in alliance chat in response to our request to help with the battle. They didn't say 'hey, we're not helping because X.' So CA sent 8 people into a battle against 16 NS...
From my perspective, it seemed that someone in the alliance told everyone except CA not to help CA. This follows from the fact that CA refused to help STB when they were in a PC against AE. The reason for this was that CA's CEO (Shepherd) was not present at the time STB asked for help. Before that, Shepherd had told us not to ring against AE. Indeed, AE had been a supportful friend of CA in this game for several months. So to help fight them because of something going on with STB - - something which, I should note, STB felt was not for CA to know - - this appeared silly. But either way, no member of CA was willing to contradict what our CEO told us. And since no one from STB or ML had discussed the 'war' with Shepherd, he never had a chance to reconsider his position about AE (a point which is not to imply he would have changed his mind). So, as we told STB, we could not ring against AE. And, because of this, it seems, STB (and ML) did not want to help CA with NS.
But I'm not upset by the fact that almost no one in our past alliance helped. Chances are we would've lost either way. (I mean, really, how much help could a corp/alliance who needs a non-alliance corp to do all their work for them be.) Rather, I'm upset that no one said they wouldn't help and why. I think it's silly to play a game with a group of people who don't have enough common courtesy to simply explain when they will or will not help with what some might consider was at one time the most competitive aspect of the game.
So, for me, leaving STB was about being independent to discover who in this game actually is respectful enough to play the game fairly (i.e., not lock districts to profit wihout risk), tell us when they can and cannot help, and show some general respect for us as other players of this game. RA was an obvious choice. And I'm glad we applied and that they've accepted us.
For me, all this is simple and doesn't really warrant such an 'explanation.' But if you want to point the finger at supposed hypocrites, I'd suggest pointing it at those who say they're the best, who say they have integrity and are game players, etc., but yet exploit the game, lock their districts, talk about how small corps 'have to' lock them (even though they are in the top three largest corps in the game), claim not to be elitists, yet for whatever reason think having more isk is a good thing... I mean doesn't it determine who are the better players? I'd point it at those who criticize other corps for not having the best players and yet who ring an ENTIRE TEAM of another corp in order to win their battles.
Let me just say that those to whom I'm referring here are not intended to be wholly not identifiable.
I look at it like this. If you work at an elderly care center, but decide to call off work 30 minutes before your shift starts. Does it really surprise you if your boss fires you?
If you call for aid 30 minutes before a timer, does it really surprise you if you don't get a response? Especially if all you did was type in a chat? Mailing specific people is a far more effective way of getting attention, but if your that late in sending it then even then a response shouldn't be expected. But I already posted a big old example to this so I wont go into it again
Marston VC, STB Director
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NobIesse Oblige
Fatal Absolution
132
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Posted - 2014.02.02 06:51:00 -
[107] - Quote
Weccer is the new shooooooooter.
Alts on alts yo
I'm CEO, Bitch
Incentivizing n00bs to carry me cir.12/13
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Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
47
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Posted - 2014.02.02 07:35:00 -
[108] - Quote
Obv we had our reasons for leaving, and nobody needs to agree w those reasons but us. Arguing about it isn't going to solve, prove or clarify anything to/for anybody. As I've said before we are happy exactly where we are because we got here together. On a side note, I think that decisions that affect alliance members should be discussed with the heads of the corps in the alliance. This way everybody is on the same page and knows why certain corps outside the alliance are suddenly blue. It just sucks hearing about the 'why and how' afterward.
Ya know, if the crew doesn't like where your steering the ship, they'll jump off...
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
Jello Biafra = God
AQUPI
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weccer
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2014.02.02 08:43:00 -
[109] - Quote
NobIesse Oblige wrote:Weccer is the new shooooooooter.
Alts on alts yo
Way to state the obvious. |
iliel
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
9
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Posted - 2014.02.02 09:13:00 -
[110] - Quote
Marston VC wrote:iliel wrote:The way I see it is: ringing is fine; there is an upside and downside to ringing - - that is, getting players who may be /are individually better than your corp's members, but who are generally not as familiar with your corp's team strategies. I respect Cubs and others (even Regnyum). I think they're damn good players and do nothing wrong when it comes to 'playing the game.'
District locking, on the other hand, is an in-game exploit. While ML may not have been the first district lockers (I'm not familiar with Dust 'history'), they did district lock at a time when it was implemented as a way to avoid attacks and to accumulate Isk. That is, they exploited the system to make personal profits without risk. (I would contrast this with RA, who have now locked their districts to encourage CCP to fix (i.e., remove) this exploit of PC from the game.)
While I wish ringers did not ring for corps who district lock - - especially for the defense (when the corp has more than three times the number of clones as the attacker), I at the same time don't blame ringers for going where the Isk is. That is only natural in a game with mercenaries.
As for why CA left PD, I don't know the 'official' reason, since I'm not in CA's 'management'. However, I do know a personal reason for me to encourage CA's 'managemnt' to leave and have nothing to do with PD or its members was that during the 'war' with RA, a war which CA neither initiated nor formally endorsed (since neither ML nor STB asked CA what we thought about the groundds for the war...), there was a point in time when CA had several PC battles with NS,. Now, two of these took place at the same time. So, as you might expect, CA needed some people to help. Logically (I think logically...), we asked who we thought were at the time our 'allies' to help. Now, not only did almost no one help (two of Dethdealers' and two Poison Roses' members did help), but almost no one responded. That is, STB, ML, Thid Day, Rising Suns said absolutely nothing in alliance chat in response to our request to help with the battle. They didn't say 'hey, we're not helping because X.' So CA sent 8 people into a battle against 16 NS...
From my perspective, it seemed that someone in the alliance told everyone except CA not to help CA. This follows from the fact that CA refused to help STB when they were in a PC against AE. The reason for this was that CA's CEO (Shepherd) was not present at the time STB asked for help. Before that, Shepherd had told us not to ring against AE. Indeed, AE had been a supportful friend of CA in this game for several months. So to help fight them because of something going on with STB - - something which, I should note, STB felt was not for CA to know - - this appeared silly. But either way, no member of CA was willing to contradict what our CEO told us. And since no one from STB or ML had discussed the 'war' with Shepherd, he never had a chance to reconsider his position about AE (a point which is not to imply he would have changed his mind). So, as we told STB, we could not ring against AE. And, because of this, it seems, STB (and ML) did not want to help CA with NS.
But I'm not upset by the fact that almost no one in our past alliance helped. Chances are we would've lost either way. (I mean, really, how much help could a corp/alliance who needs a non-alliance corp to do all their work for them be.) Rather, I'm upset that no one said they wouldn't help and why. I think it's silly to play a game with a group of people who don't have enough common courtesy to simply explain when they will or will not help with what some might consider was at one time the most competitive aspect of the game.
So, for me, leaving STB was about being independent to discover who in this game actually is respectful enough to play the game fairly (i.e., not lock districts to profit wihout risk), tell us when they can and cannot help, and show some general respect for us as other players of this game. RA was an obvious choice. And I'm glad we applied and that they've accepted us.
For me, all this is simple and doesn't really warrant such an 'explanation.' But if you want to point the finger at supposed hypocrites, I'd suggest pointing it at those who say they're the best, who say they have integrity and are game players, etc., but yet exploit the game, lock their districts, talk about how small corps 'have to' lock them (even though they are in the top three largest corps in the game), claim not to be elitists, yet for whatever reason think having more isk is a good thing... I mean doesn't it determine who are the better players? I'd point it at those who criticize other corps for not having the best players and yet who ring an ENTIRE TEAM of another corp in order to win their battles.
Let me just say that those to whom I'm referring here are not intended to be wholly not identifiable. I look at it like this. If you work at an elderly care center, but decide to call off work 30 minutes before your shift starts. Does it really surprise you if your boss fires you? If you call for aid 30 minutes before a timer, does it really surprise you if you don't get a response? Especially if all you did was type in a chat? Mailing specific people is a far more effective way of getting attention, but if your that late in sending it then even then a response shouldn't be expected. But I already posted a big old example to this so I wont go into it again
Lol. Good luck with this reasoning. I think I'm going to keep it for future reference when I explain to others how to develop analogical arguments. (By the way, you may want to 'double check' with your 'boss' about the 'facts.' There may have been 'mailing' taking place.) |
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Kingseeker Kobra
Fetal Abortions
283
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Posted - 2014.02.02 11:05:00 -
[111] - Quote
Some no name from CA threatened my corp because I was ringing against them for war ravens.
I don't appreciate threats.
Ariana glitches 31 free kills and loses anyways, LMFAO @ AE GARBAGE
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1534
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Posted - 2014.02.02 11:33:00 -
[112] - Quote
That comparison only works in this situation because that's essentially what you did. The only difference is that you guys quit and werent fired...... Mails were sent huh? Then they were sent far too late. Regardless of what you say I know STB personally wouldn't ignore any corp in need without some reason.
Reasons include 1.) fielding for our own match, 2.) noboby read the mails that were sent. (which, in short notice situations, even if they did read them it would have/could have been to late by the time they responded).
Regardless, you guys had at least 1 day to prepare two teams for the double stacked timers you had. Possibly two. If you failed to prepare two teams ahead of time, despite knowing there was a double stacked timer coming up, then that is completely your "managements" fault.
Now I also heard rumors that part of the reason CA left is because they thought STB guys didn't like/were trash talking members of CA, and while I don't have tabs on all 300+ members of our corp I can say with confidence that everyone in our leadership, up until CA backstabbed us, liked CA and shepherd. We enjoyed working with your corporation and shepherd was a pleasure talking to. Now that you guys did back stab us some of us in leadership are just a bit disappointed because we thought our corps were allied...... we thought things were fine. But instead of talking to us about how your corp was frustrated, you just went ahead and left us. But not only did you leave, you went straight to AE. The allies to the corp that took your districts to begin with.......
Marston VC, STB Director
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Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
47
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Posted - 2014.02.02 13:40:00 -
[113] - Quote
Sorry y'all feel like we stabbed y'all in the back. We did lose all of our land for you twice fighting 'wars' over things we either didn't know about or didn't agree with. If it's our fault that we felt left out of the decision making, then I guess we'll try to do better next time. Thanks for the constructive criticism. Feel free to take this how every you want Marston. We'll see you around.
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
Jello Biafra = God
AQUPI
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iliel
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
9
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Posted - 2014.02.02 20:27:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:That comparison only works in this situation because that's essentially what you did. The only difference is that you guys quit and werent fired...... Mails were sent huh? Then they were sent far too late. Regardless of what you say I know STB personally wouldn't ignore any corp in need without some reason.
Reasons include 1.) fielding for our own match, 2.) noboby read the mails that were sent. (which, in short notice situations, even if they did read them it would have/could have been to late by the time they responded).
Regardless, you guys had at least 1 day to prepare two teams for the double stacked timers you had. Possibly two. If you failed to prepare two teams ahead of time, despite knowing there was a double stacked timer coming up, then that is completely your "managements" fault.
Now I also heard rumors that part of the reason CA left is because they thought STB guys didn't like/were trash talking members of CA, and while I don't have tabs on all 300+ members of our corp I can say with confidence that everyone in our leadership, up until CA backstabbed us, liked CA and shepherd. We enjoyed working with your corporation and shepherd was a pleasure talking to. Now that you guys did back stab us some of us in leadership are just a bit disappointed because we thought our corps were allied...... we thought things were fine. But instead of talking to us about how your corp was frustrated, you just went ahead and left us. But not only did you leave, you went straight to AE. The allies to the corp that took your districts to begin with.......
Let me just point out then that, if we are going to argue analogically, a method which, by the way, has always been felt to be, let us say, the most 'authoritative' form of argumentation, I might claim that your 'defense' is tantamount to a child who, after being accused of not showing his brother respect (for instance, because he was playing the 'silent game'), instead of saying 'O, sorry, I did not know you were talking,' says instead 'I still can't hear you . . .' [this is when the audience laughs].
And then that same child, to support his case, adds: ''By the way, brother, you are a traitor because you found a new brother who isn't my brother [(i.e., ad hominem) so the audience laughs again]. And, also, I 'personally' know that 'personally' knowing is the best tell of character. So I personally know that my family has the best character [(i.e., psychologistic tautology) ibidem].'
And just when I thought condescension wasn't entertaining . . . well, I guess you did 'teach' me something. |
Heimdallr69
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NobIesse Oblige wrote:Weccer is the new shooooooooter.
Alts on alts yo
There was also a blaaaaaster both of which called me out
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CPL Bloodstone
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
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Kingseeker Kobra wrote:Some no name from CA threatened my corp because I was ringing against them for war ravens.
I don't appreciate threats.
Send me an in game email Kobra and ill chat with you about it. It is frowned upon on our corp members to talk trash or threaten at least without letting us in leadership know about it =). So we can properly back them up or laugh at them. Whichever.
Ill deal with it or you can chat with Shepard Grey.
Woman are like bacon, They Smell , look, taste good and slowly kills men.
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