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richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 694	Posted - 2014.01.28 21:54:00 - [1] - Quote Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't. compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation ACME Holding Conglomerate 610	Posted - 2014.01.28 21:55:00 - [2] - Quote im enjoying tanks. even the enemy tanks. i consider it free wp now.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 2652	Posted - 2014.01.28 21:56:00 - [3] - Quote Does a bear **** in the woods? ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Yoma Carrim Situation Normal all fraked up 346	Posted - 2014.01.28 21:58:00 - [4] - Quote I enjoy tanks Then again I Shield railgun tanked outside the redline through 1.0/1.6 and enjoyed it. (broken frackin armor reprs) Never has my railgun clamed the lives of so many Other tanks When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 303	Posted - 2014.01.28 21:59:00 - [5] - Quote message from Godin: Due to the annoying ass jeeps, nope.
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 694	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:00:00 - [6] - Quote Yoma Carrim wrote: I enjoy tanks Then again I Shield railgun tanked outside the redline through 1.0/1.6 and enjoyed it. (broken frackin armor reprs) Never has my railgun clamed the lives of so many Other tanks GTFO This is aimed toward blasters "tankers" compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5530	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:01:00 - [7] - Quote Honestly, if 1.8 brings a full respec instead of just an infantry one, I'll be abandoning tanks in favor of infantry. Never forget May 14, 2013: Beta 2.0
Horizon Limit Nexus Balusa Horizon 33	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:03:00 - [8] - Quote No, thats's why i have 15kk unallocated SP after the last vehicle respec. "Can you look so far?"
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 694	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:03:00 - [9] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Honestly, if 1.8 brings a full respec instead of just an infantry one, I'll be abandoning tanks in favor of infantry. Thankfully i have a dedicated vehicle alt, however that said if i was a tanker on my main i probably would of quit the game by now. They are just absolutely stale. compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 694	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:05:00 - [10] - Quote Horizon Limit wrote: No, thats's why i have 15kk unallocated SP after the last vehicle respec. Wow, you have allot of self restraint. compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)

Michael Epic The Neutral Zone 244	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:07:00 - [11] - Quote I'm not enjoying tanks at all....
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation ACME Holding Conglomerate 610	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:07:00 - [12] - Quote i went up the third day a few days ago. it was a massive tank battle on that one bridge/ dom map. i had pulled out my rapid response sica fitted with blaster and pushed all the way to the enemy cru. and kept killing this one player with a mlt swarm. as he poped out and stood still trying to lock onto my weak tank. after getting a few kills a madrugar rail tank hit me from the side. i back up and got stuck on a rock ): as i tried to pull out tank got blown up. we already had multiple tanks on our team both blaster and rail but then i had started seeing massive amounts of tanks on the enemy team as well. i lost about 3 tanks in the match and killed around 12 enemy tanks. it was a very close match and a real fun one too. my glass cannon made the difference in the end though. the objective it self was basically just alternating between red and blue as well. even though we had blaster tanks around there as well. it was still hard to take control and hold it with all the red uplinks there.
Horizon Limit Nexus Balusa Horizon 33	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:08:00 - [13] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Horizon Limit wrote: No, thats's why i have 15kk unallocated SP after the last vehicle respec. Wow, you have allot of self restraint. I have an alt where i spend every single SP, in every single useless skill "Can you look so far?"
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6284	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:12:00 - [14] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't. Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? No. Blaster turrets do not fulfil the function of what HAV should be doing. Anti infantry canon are not typically mounted as main guns. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Mortedeamor 1307	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:22:00 - [15] - Quote yes it i quiet enjoyable exspecially slaughtering all the infantry if there are no groups of tanks to stop me... and as for the blaster turret the blaster is the only non scrub turret..i consider rails and missiles worse than blasters blasters require more skill to use vs other tanks +1 for IWS to stay as cpm more-tae-dee-um-more stop asking how to pronounce my name its quiet irritating
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 697	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:29:00 - [16] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: yes it i quiet enjoyable exspecially slaughtering all the infantry if there are no groups of tanks to stop me... and as for the blaster turret the blaster is the only non scrub turret..i consider rails and missiles worse than blasters blasters require more skill to use vs other tanks So you run a tank which is meant to kill infantry, run into a fight between a rail gun tank because one of the infantry probably got pissed off? Which in turn ****' you off? Do you see the irony? compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 344	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:32:00 - [17] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't. Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? enjoy eating the 80% with my railgun Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 332	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:34:00 - [18] - Quote I've always been a tanker running around in an assault/logi suit. I've enjoyed 1.7 far more than earlier versions. Still a lot of work left to go, but clearly a step in the right direction.
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1774	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:35:00 - [19] - Quote Kind of boring. When only a few tankers in the game are cape able of killing me over and over, it's no fun. Infantry don't stand a chance. Maybe if the proxies didn't beep it'd be more fun but it's too easy now. I stick to killing tanks for that reason. If I want to get a high kdr, I brawl with rails and skill shot infantry. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 406	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:36:00 - [20] - Quote I love tanks, i spend most the match hunting enemy vehicals and hardly ever have time to kill infantry, unless its a randome forgegun heavy not moving lining up a forge gun shot, or a sniper i run across on a hill while im flanking a tank.

TunRa D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 435	Posted - 2014.01.28 22:45:00 - [21] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: yes it i quiet enjoyable exspecially slaughtering all the infantry if there are no groups of tanks to stop me... and as for the blaster turret the blaster is the only non scrub turret..i consider rails and missiles worse than blasters blasters require more skill to use vs other tanks Hahaha, scrub. Thanks CCP Foxfour
Kharga Lum Arcana Imperii Ltd. Northern Army. 266	Posted - 2014.01.28 23:04:00 - [22] - Quote Tank V Tank fights are often like Scout V Scout fights. The ambusher wins. With the abundance of militia tanks many rounds become about attrition. Militia tanks are cheaper so they keep bringing them out and then it's more about being lucky then skill. I do not enjoy tanking. I prefer flying but that's difficult to do with turrets or tanks on the field.
Horizon Limit Nexus Balusa Horizon 34	Posted - 2014.01.28 23:19:00 - [23] - Quote Good thing about vehicles in 1.7 -maneuverability -cheap tanks -viable shield tanks Bad thing about vehicles in 1.7 - fitting is boring with that low count of slots - less modules - tank vs tank The only thing they had to do, was a nerf to the SL and little nerf to the FG, give better modules for the shield tanking and change a little tank stats. "Can you look so far?"
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 699	Posted - 2014.01.28 23:21:00 - [24] - Quote Horizon Limit wrote: Bad thing about vehicles in 1.7 -maneuverability -cheap tanks -viable shield tanks - fitting is boring with that low count of slots - less modules - tank vs tank The only thing they had to do, was a nerf to the SL and little nerf to the FG, give better modules for the shield tanking and change a little tank stats. Fixed compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1700	Posted - 2014.01.28 23:28:00 - [25] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't. Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? What are you mad about? That somebody had the audacity to choose a role different from yours? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 699	Posted - 2014.01.28 23:30:00 - [26] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't. Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? What are you mad about? That somebody had the audacity to choose a role different from yours? No, I'm just wondering how many of you are bored of this "role" you call tanking. compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 481	Posted - 2014.01.28 23:33:00 - [27] - Quote I have ideas for turrets, and how tanks and infantry should interact. Which can be summed up as support roles. Tanks SUPPORT infantry Infantry SUPPORT tanks Which means tanks assist more with kills against infantry, than outright killing infantry. Infantry assists tanks killing other tanks, rather than outright killing tanks. We already have the bottom half going on! Tank turrets Another link in this thread at the top leading to points I think are wrong with tanks. Nuff Said
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 785	Posted - 2014.01.28 23:36:00 - [28] - Quote No Missiles are useless Militia rails are better than my 100% proto, +13k ehp hardened shield tank Rails in general are spammed at the mere thought of any tank or dropship on the field. Dropship Specialist Kills- Incubus: 4; Pythons: 2; Other DS: 29 Gêå1; Tanks: 31 Gêå3 1/26
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1700	Posted - 2014.01.28 23:49:00 - [29] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't. Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? What are you mad about? That somebody had the audacity to choose a role different from yours? No, I'm just wondering how many of you are bored of this "role" you call tanking. No, you just can't understand why someone would choose vehicles over infantry. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1101	Posted - 2014.01.28 23:49:00 - [30] - Quote I try to enjoy tanks and took the hard road with missiles and shields. I'm quickly losing interest in the game if the mil dmg mod rail scrub mechanic isn't nerfed into the ground. No reason to train tanks or use anything else as long as that crap can just be yanked out by any ol' joe. It happens every game now. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!

HiddenBrother Days of Ruin 47	Posted - 2014.01.28 23:56:00 - [31] - Quote Don't see where all this whining about tanks is coming from. My Combat rifle/Rail rifle/Assault rifle are far better at taking out infantry; than my tank could ever dream of achieving. Oh noes! A tank made me lose me lose a clone on a perfect 50-0 game! As opposed to adapting; I will make a thread on nerfing the weapon/vehicle that killed me! Go back to the Gallente FW queue line. Maybe redlining a few academy cadets will make you feel better about yourself. Ruin.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1101	Posted - 2014.01.28 23:56:00 - [32] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't. Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? What are you mad about? That somebody had the audacity to choose a role different from yours? No, I'm just wondering how many of you are bored of this "role" you call tanking. See, some ppl play a game. In this game they want to have fun with things. They see tanks and they like tanks otherwise. So, they play tanks to have fun. They don't take this game so seriously that they think they have to win the game for you or help you win the game. I help myself win the game every time ( and by winning I mean having fun with whatever I want to kick around withGÇª and beer.) I enjoy sniping, tanking and anything else deemed useless and that pisses console kiddie tryhards off. Because enjoyment is half the battle. No, wait, it IS the battle. Why should I hack the objectives when you lemmings have that covered? Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 699	Posted - 2014.01.29 00:01:00 - [33] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't. Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? What are you mad about? That somebody had the audacity to choose a role different from yours? No, I'm just wondering how many of you are bored of this "role" you call tanking. No, you just can't understand why someone would choose vehicles over infantry. Can't you just leave this thread? compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Glitch116 Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 31	Posted - 2014.01.29 00:04:00 - [34] - Quote i really enjoy the that fact that it is now possible to make money tanking something that has been hard to do in uprising so far i also enjoy the Tank vs Tank fights nothing feels better the ripping a red tank up like a tin can with my blaster how ever it does get dull without any challengers each time i start getting on a tank killing spree wreaking all the tank spam with my blaster some asshat with a murder taxi of a mega modded rail comes and ruins tank battles are amazing but getting insta popped for doing my job sucks its total cockblock and just kills it for me i dont really try all that hard to go after infantry if they decide to stand in the road or shoot me with a rifle then i will give them a quick blast but my main enjoyment is smashing some fool in a blaster soma who thinks tanking is easy mode SEND ME MORE TANKS TO KILL FOR i DEMAND A WORTH OPPONENT!!! I AM THE KING OF THE BLASTER!!! deal with it
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6288	Posted - 2014.01.29 00:08:00 - [35] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't. Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? What are you mad about? That somebody had the audacity to choose a role different from yours? No, I'm just wondering how many of you are bored of this "role" you call tanking. No, you just can't understand why someone would choose vehicles over infantry. However Spkr......Blasters **** up vehicle balance and ruin the role of HAV by allowing HAV to roll as anti infantry units. Since where have you seen a tank fit a .50 cal over a 165mm turret on its main cupola? Answer you don't. HAV shouldn't be Anti infantry units, or have such potent Anti Infantry capacity in the hands of the main pilot. It however should be a platform that will allow 2 other to make use of solid Anti Infantry fire power, while providing massive ordinance and the best anti vehicle fire power on the map. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6288	Posted - 2014.01.29 00:09:00 - [36] - Quote Glitch116 wrote: i really enjoy the that fact that it is now possible to make money tanking something that has been hard to do in uprising so far i also enjoy the Tank vs Tank fights nothing feels better the ripping a red tank up like a tin can with my blaster how ever it does get dull without any challengers each time i start getting on a tank killing spree wreaking all the tank spam with my blaster some asshat with a murder taxi of a mega modded rail comes and ruins tank battles are amazing but getting insta popped for doing my job sucks its total cockblock and just kills it for me i dont really try all that hard to go after infantry if they decide to stand in the road or shoot me with a rifle then i will give them a quick blast but my main enjoyment is smashing some fool in a blaster soma who thinks tanking is easy mode SEND ME MORE TANKS TO KILL FOR i DEMAND A WORTH OPPONENT!!! I think tanks should be good, and making money in Vehicles should be possible....but not in HAV unless you are skilled and careful with your deployments. I hate how Soma spamming scrubs can make a buck over real tankers who throw down high SP invested gear. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Thorn Badblood Dust2Dust. Top Men. 129	Posted - 2014.01.29 00:13:00 - [37] - Quote Honestly I don't even see what role a tank plays in DUST 514 Is there anything on the battlefield which requires a tank to be there? Not as far as I can tell. We have LAV's and DS for transport and a little vehicle flavor and both can be easily countered with infantry AV. Can tanks be fun? Yes. Is there a point to them in DUST 514? No D2D. A Non-Prophet Organization
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 496	Posted - 2014.01.29 00:19:00 - [38] - Quote I enjoy my tank alt because it's a bit of sweet revenge for my infantry time. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6288	Posted - 2014.01.29 00:19:00 - [39] - Quote Thorn Badblood wrote: Honestly I don't even see what role a tank plays in DUST 514 Is there anything on the battlefield which requires a tank to be there? Not as far as I can tell. We have LAV's and DS for transport and a little vehicle flavor and both can be easily countered with infantry AV. Can tanks be fun? Yes. Is there a point to them in DUST 514? No They don't play a role yet. They need to, and other newer vehicle frames also need roles. As I see it the roles should be this LAV- Cheap, Fast, Lightly Armoured, Good Anti Infantry Capacity on Light turrets MAV- Moderately Expensive, Moderately Armoured, Medium Anti Infantry and Vehicle Capacity, Anti Infantry or Infantry Support. HAV- Expensive, Heavily Armoured, High Fire power, AoE Rounds, Anti Vehicle Focus "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 699	Posted - 2014.01.29 00:24:00 - [40] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: I enjoy my tank alt because it's a bit of sweet revenge for my infantry time. I used to but now its just stale. 15mil of sp wasted. compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)

Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 353	Posted - 2014.01.29 00:36:00 - [41] - Quote Thorn Badblood wrote: Honestly I don't even see what role a tank plays in DUST 514 Is there anything on the battlefield which requires a tank to be there? Not as far as I can tell. We have LAV's and DS for transport and a little vehicle flavor and both can be easily countered with infantry AV. Can tanks be fun? Yes. Is there a point to them in DUST 514? No really? no role? and you have the audacity to whine about tanks? let me tell you a tanks role, A TANKS ROLE IS TO KILL OTHER TANKS AND TERRORIZE AND DEMORALIZE INFANTRY JUST LIKE IN THE REAL WORLD, DUH. if you guys hate blasters so damn much wha the hell are you idiots going to do when amar laser turrets are released or minmatar auto-cannnons because i will gaurentee they too will rampage on infantry just as easily
Mortedeamor 1308	Posted - 2014.01.29 00:37:00 - [42] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: yes it i quiet enjoyable exspecially slaughtering all the infantry if there are no groups of tanks to stop me... and as for the blaster turret the blaster is the only non scrub turret..i consider rails and missiles worse than blasters blasters require more skill to use vs other tanks So you run a tank which is meant to kill infantry, run into a fight between a rail gun tank because one of the infantry probably got pissed off? Which in turn **' you off? Do you see the irony? no enemy rail tanks dont ** me off tank v tank is very balanced unlike infantry its much more enjoyable +1 for IWS to stay as cpm more-tae-dee-um-more stop asking how to pronounce my name its quiet irritating
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 353	Posted - 2014.01.29 00:43:00 - [43] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't. Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? What are you mad about? That somebody had the audacity to choose a role different from yours? No, I'm just wondering how many of you are bored of this "role" you call tanking. No, you just can't understand why someone would choose vehicles over infantry. However Spkr......Blasters **** up vehicle balance and ruin the role of HAV by allowing HAV to roll as anti infantry units. Since where have you seen a tank fit a .50 cal over a 165mm turret on its main cupola? Answer you don't. HAV shouldn't be Anti infantry units, or have such potent Anti Infantry capacity in the hands of the main pilot. It however should be a platform that will allow 2 other to make use of solid Anti Infantry fire power, while providing massive ordinance and the best anti vehicle fire power on the map. ever seen a 25mm quad cannon anti-aircraft tank? they can kill infantry too not just choppers and planes im going to laugh at you when i see you make another thread about this same crap after minmatar auto-cannons are implemented. if a blaster tank is killing you how about using a railgun or a missle tank to kill it like a smart person would do, or you could continue to be an idot and shoot it witha rifle
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6297	Posted - 2014.01.29 01:19:00 - [44] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: Thorn Badblood wrote: Honestly I don't even see what role a tank plays in DUST 514 Is there anything on the battlefield which requires a tank to be there? Not as far as I can tell. We have LAV's and DS for transport and a little vehicle flavor and both can be easily countered with infantry AV. Can tanks be fun? Yes. Is there a point to them in DUST 514? No really? no role? and you have the audacity to whine about tanks? let me tell you a tanks role, A TANKS ROLE IS TO KILL OTHER TANKS AND TERRORIZE AND DEMORALIZE INFANTRY JUST LIKE IN THE REAL WORLD, DUH. if you guys hate blasters so damn much wha the hell are you idiots going to do when amar laser turrets are released or minmatar auto-cannnons because i will gaurentee they too will rampage on infantry just as easily But tanks do not typically directly engage infantry..... though they do provide a platform for gunners to engage infantry. As for those turrets they need to be rethought to fit the role of Main Battle Canon. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6297	Posted - 2014.01.29 01:24:00 - [45] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: ever seen a 25mm quad cannon anti-aircraft tank? they can kill infantry too not just choppers and planes im going to laugh at you when i see you make another thread about this same crap after minmatar auto-cannons are implemented. if a blaster tank is killing you how about using a railgun or a missle tank to kill it like a smart person would do, or you could continue to be an idot and shoot it witha rifle Blaster tanks never kill me. Always a Rail or Missile. I personally just don't like Blasters and Blaster Tanks even though I use them. I feel they do not adequately allow a tank to fulfil its role as a heavy vehicle. Blaster Weapons could still be implemented but perhaps in the form of Heavy Plasma Launchers. In the case of Auto canon? Well we don't even know if Auto Canon will be CCP's choice of Min turret. They could choose instead to have a 200mm Main Artillery Turret. You also misunderstood me. The primary role of the AA gun is to take out Air units not infantry. Most real world armoured vehicles are geared to deal with other vehicles. Their weapon and still kill infantry....but aren't directly designed to. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation ACME Holding Conglomerate 613	Posted - 2014.01.29 01:38:00 - [46] - Quote u may think they r not designed to kill infantry. but they use em that way anyways. if were to compare our blaster tank to the tank that was in the bf4 beta. that vehicle had a machine gun that could effectively kill infantry players and an ap shell weapon. at default. both of these weapons being under control of the player. it also took the entire enemy team to kill me when i grabbed the tank as well on that game. our large 80gj blaster turret can effectively engage infantry and other vehicles with the use of only one turret. so no turret switching or weapon switching with the tank as that single turret can do both. unlike the bf4 tank where we would switch to the machine gun to take down infantry and use the explosive shells to take out enemy vehicles. id say the blaster fits in as a combination of the bf4 ap shell cannon and that machinegun which r both under control of the driver.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6300	Posted - 2014.01.29 01:46:00 - [47] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: u may think they r not designed to kill infantry. but they use em that way anyways. if were to compare our blaster tank to the tank that was in the bf4 beta. that vehicle had a machine gun that could effectively kill infantry players and an ap shell weapon. at default. both of these weapons being under control of the player. it also took the entire enemy team to kill me when i grabbed the tank as well on that game. our large 80gj blaster turret can effectively engage infantry and other vehicles with the use of only one turret. so no turret switching or weapon switching with the tank as that single turret can do both. unlike the bf4 tank where we would switch to the machine gun to take down infantry and use the explosive shells to take out enemy vehicles. id say the blaster fits in as a combination of the bf4 ap shell cannon and that machinegun which r both under control of the driver. I don't think that is right. This should be a tactical shooter. Defined roles, manipulation of engagement scenarios, etc. I am struggling why Tankers want to have their jobs be so easy ******* retarding infantry dropkicks are now doing it? REDACTED- That was uncalled for. My apologies...however my point stands. Why do tankers want an easy job? I don't. I want taking to be hard again! However despite that what is it that give BF4 its vehicle balance? "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Thorn Badblood Dust2Dust. Top Men. 130	Posted - 2014.01.29 02:44:00 - [48] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: Thorn Badblood wrote: Honestly I don't even see what role a tank plays in DUST 514 Is there anything on the battlefield which requires a tank to be there? Not as far as I can tell. We have LAV's and DS for transport and a little vehicle flavor and both can be easily countered with infantry AV. Can tanks be fun? Yes. Is there a point to them in DUST 514? No really? no role? and you have the audacity to whine about tanks? let me tell you a tanks role, A TANKS ROLE IS TO KILL OTHER TANKS AND TERRORIZE AND DEMORALIZE INFANTRY JUST LIKE IN THE REAL WORLD, DUH. if you guys hate blasters so damn much wha the hell are you idiots going to do when amar laser turrets are released or minmatar auto-cannnons because i will gaurentee they too will rampage on infantry just as easily You proved my point exactly Its there to kill other tanks, so if no other tanks exist it has no purpose, therefore tanks have no purpose, but I got the usual educated response I expect on these forums. D2D. A Non-Prophet Organization
Otavio Martins The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 196	Posted - 2014.01.29 04:09:00 - [49] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't. Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? im ******* happy with this balance. and yes, blaster tankers can be considered real tanks RC-1087 Star Wars Fan. Please gimme some ISK.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6320	Posted - 2014.01.29 04:26:00 - [50] - Quote Otavio Martins wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't. Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? im ******* happy with this balance. and yes, blaster tankers can be considered real tanks Not in the traditional sense they aren't "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."

The Attorney General 1904	Posted - 2014.01.29 04:50:00 - [51] - Quote True Adamance wrote: But tanks do not typically directly engage infantry..... though they do provide a platform for gunners to engage infantry. As for those turrets they need to be rethought to fit the role of Main Battle Canon. Tanks were originally designed to engage infantry, and there was a school of thought that led to the creation of the split type tanks common in the inter war period. The British split their units up into Cruisers and Infantry tanks, with each attempting to fulfill a specific function in the force. Even MBT's have Canister shot, and a couple of other options for main cannon rounds. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 353	Posted - 2014.01.29 08:18:00 - [52] - Quote Thorn Badblood wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: Thorn Badblood wrote: Honestly I don't even see what role a tank plays in DUST 514 Is there anything on the battlefield which requires a tank to be there? Not as far as I can tell. We have LAV's and DS for transport and a little vehicle flavor and both can be easily countered with infantry AV. Can tanks be fun? Yes. Is there a point to them in DUST 514? No really? no role? and you have the audacity to whine about tanks? let me tell you a tanks role, A TANKS ROLE IS TO KILL OTHER TANKS AND TERRORIZE AND DEMORALIZE INFANTRY JUST LIKE IN THE REAL WORLD, DUH. if you guys hate blasters so damn much wha the hell are you idiots going to do when amar laser turrets are released or minmatar auto-cannnons because i will gaurentee they too will rampage on infantry just as easily You proved my point exactly Its there to kill other tanks, so if no other tanks exist it has no purpose, therefore tanks have no purpose, but I got the usual educated response I expect on these forums. by using that logic there is no use in even playing the damn game fool why dont u just quit already
LowerThan SnakeShip Ultramarine Corp 1	Posted - 2014.01.29 08:43:00 - [53] - Quote the point of a tank is what it is in real combat to engage targets from an armored platform . its called combined warfare infantry, armor, air support, and support fire. the princiable being if you cant bring one of these elements to the battlefield you are not combat effective as a team HAV have a role my disagreements are that the sica and soma require no skill and have a good chance of killing an acutal tanker if they forced the militia fits to take turrets as they do on the AUR and LP version it would be alot less broken if you didnt have HAV rail i would rule the game with assualt dropships vice versa if you got rid of that too then why have any vehicles or turrents then you would just be playing COD i say stop crying if you are infanrty and HAV is your problem you should squad up with a real tanker its called tactics and boom boom jeeps are legit too but hey if your infantry shoots the mine it should blow up before it gets to your HAV you only see this because cheap HAV are running everywhere. whats not fair is i **** off the wrong guy and he dive bombs my dropship since i cant see half of what a tanker can see at least you see the jeep and your vehicle physics make sense alot more than the impacts of a dropship
4447 ZionTCD Public Disorder. 965	Posted - 2014.01.29 08:48:00 - [54] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Does a bear **** in the woods? lost me, because you have stars in your sentence. Troll, For lifeGÇª But maybe a dragon, uh a bigger dragon.
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 135	Posted - 2014.01.29 09:28:00 - [55] - Quote I always use the railgun and target vehicles but don't worry i still mop the floor with you infantry
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1702	Posted - 2014.01.29 11:26:00 - [56] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't. Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? What are you mad about? That somebody had the audacity to choose a role different from yours? No, I'm just wondering how many of you are bored of this "role" you call tanking. See, some ppl play a game. In this game they want to have fun with things. They see tanks and they like tanks otherwise. So, they play tanks to have fun. They don't take this game so seriously that they think they have to win the game for you or help you win the game. I help myself win the game every time ( and by winning I mean having fun with whatever I want to kick around withGÇª and beer.) I enjoy sniping, tanking and anything else deemed useless and that pisses console kiddie tryhards off. Because enjoyment is half the battle. No, wait, it IS the battle. Why should I hack the objectives when you lemmings have that covered? I don't think he knows what hacking an objective is. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1702	Posted - 2014.01.29 11:29:00 - [57] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't. Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? What are you mad about? That somebody had the audacity to choose a role different from yours? No, I'm just wondering how many of you are bored of this "role" you call tanking. No, you just can't understand why someone would choose vehicles over infantry. Can't you just leave this thread? LOL Makes a thread asking me if I enjoy tanks, doesn't like my response and asks me to leave. LOL! I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1702	Posted - 2014.01.29 11:30:00 - [58] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't. Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? What are you mad about? That somebody had the audacity to choose a role different from yours? No, I'm just wondering how many of you are bored of this "role" you call tanking. No, you just can't understand why someone would choose vehicles over infantry. However Spkr......Blasters **** up vehicle balance and ruin the role of HAV by allowing HAV to roll as anti infantry units. Since where have you seen a tank fit a .50 cal over a 165mm turret on its main cupola? Answer you don't. HAV shouldn't be Anti infantry units, or have such potent Anti Infantry capacity in the hands of the main pilot. It however should be a platform that will allow 2 other to make use of solid Anti Infantry fire power, while providing massive ordinance and the best anti vehicle fire power on the map. So something that's good enough to use in space, and a race's preferred weapon, cannot be used on the ground because it's too good at its job? Doesn't make sense to me. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 710	Posted - 2014.01.29 11:31:00 - [59] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: LOL Makes a thread asking me if I enjoy tanks, doesn't like my response and asks me to leave. LOL! I was asking for your opinion..... compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 354	Posted - 2014.01.30 04:05:00 - [60] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: LOL Makes a thread asking me if I enjoy tanks, doesn't like my response and asks me to leave. LOL! I was asking for your opinion..... well you got it dipstick we like our tanks and turrets and we dont want them fkd with

MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 234	Posted - 2014.01.30 05:25:00 - [61] - Quote Not really enjoying tanks right now - the overhaul of modules and regen/reps is great except for the fact that 'tank vs tank' mostly comes down to who sees the other first and lands two 3000+ dmg railgun shots. There's almost no reason to fit armor or shield extenders because hardeners do it better. The damage on some weapons is pretty out of control and in general tanks are so cheap that they can be absolutely soul crushing for infantry as if they actually manage to destroy one another is just called in or there's 7 mlt tanks running around at all times. The current system is a pretty massive improvement in many ways, but a downgrade in others.
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 136	Posted - 2014.01.30 05:48:00 - [62] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Not really enjoying tanks right now - the overhaul of modules and regen/reps is great except for the fact that 'tank vs tank' mostly comes down to who sees the other first and lands two 3000+ dmg railgun shots. There's almost no reason to fit armor or shield extenders because hardeners do it better. The damage on some weapons is pretty out of control and in general tanks are so cheap that they can be absolutely soul crushing for infantry as if they actually manage to destroy one another is just called in or there's 7 mlt tanks running around at all times. The current system is a pretty massive improvement in many ways, but a downgrade in others. I do agree with you but in combat alot of the time it does come down to who saw who first and there is much use for armor plate or extenders on tanks but it ain't perfect yet hell CCP has to do something about the duel shield hardners. Me i have no issue with being hit first as most the time i'll still kill them and i don't mind fighting 7 tanks Also they only cheap if your using militia a goood fitted maddy would be around 400-500k Now here's how I see things for a tank and remember this is just an opinion I see blaster tanks as more anti-infantry simply because it's better for it yes it pisses off the people on the ground but still it works while still being decent against another tank like say a sica and missles are kinda in between as it can be ok AOE damage for infantry and can tear right through a armor tank and even more if the tanker didn't see it coming making it great for alot of the soma blaster tanks you see in the game now and railgun which yes I know it's alot of damage but you also have to understand that it's main and almost only role is that of anti-vehical making it somewhat like a actually tank have a gun mainly for other tanks and vehicals while still being able to hit infantry if you can aim it good enough. It hurts shields more than armor because for us armor vehical players we use the shields to give us time to react meaning the shield vehical players have to be more aware and alert and if possible checking the overview map more often so as to not be caught off guard if done right they wouldn't have th issue they do now and I think that because of this issue that it's the reason they have 60% hardners and we only get 40% for armor so thast when they get hit the first time they got more resistance for the left over HP.
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 981	Posted - 2014.01.30 06:31:00 - [63] - Quote Blaster tanks are ****** up. Amen to your post. Absolutely ridiculous what these dumbass tankers are doing.
Otavio Martins The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 201	Posted - 2014.02.07 21:11:00 - [64] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Otavio Martins wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't. Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? im ******* happy with this balance. and yes, blaster tankers can be considered real tanks Not in the traditional sense they aren't then an IFV RC-1087 Star Wars Fan. Please gimme some ISK.


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