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HiddenBrother
Days of Ruin
47
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Posted - 2014.01.28 23:56:00 -
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Don't see where all this whining about tanks is coming from.
My Combat rifle/Rail rifle/Assault rifle are far better at taking out infantry; than my tank could ever dream of achieving.
Oh noes! A tank made me lose me lose a clone on a perfect 50-0 game! As opposed to adapting; I will make a thread on nerfing the weapon/vehicle that killed me!
Go back to the Gallente FW queue line. Maybe redlining a few academy cadets will make you feel better about yourself.
Ruin.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1101
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Posted - 2014.01.28 23:56:00 -
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richiesutie 2 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't.
Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? What are you mad about? That somebody had the audacity to choose a role different from yours? No, I'm just wondering how many of you are bored of this "role" you call tanking.
See, some ppl play a game. In this game they want to have fun with things. They see tanks and they like tanks otherwise. So, they play tanks to have fun. They don't take this game so seriously that they think they have to win the game for you or help you win the game.
I help myself win the game every time ( and by winning I mean having fun with whatever I want to kick around withGǪ and beer.)
I enjoy sniping, tanking and anything else deemed useless and that pisses console kiddie tryhards off. Because enjoyment is half the battle. No, wait, it IS the battle.
Why should I hack the objectives when you lemmings have that covered?
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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richiesutie 2
The Rainbow Effect
699
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:01:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't.
Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? What are you mad about? That somebody had the audacity to choose a role different from yours? No, I'm just wondering how many of you are bored of this "role" you call tanking. No, you just can't understand why someone would choose vehicles over infantry.
Can't you just leave this thread?
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Glitch116
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
31
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:04:00 -
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i really enjoy the that fact that it is now possible to make money tanking something that has been hard to do in uprising so far i also enjoy the Tank vs Tank fights nothing feels better the ripping a red tank up like a tin can with my blaster how ever it does get dull without any challengers each time i start getting on a tank killing spree wreaking all the tank spam with my blaster some asshat with a murder taxi of a mega modded rail comes and ruins tank battles are amazing but getting insta popped for doing my job sucks its total cockblock and just kills it for me i dont really try all that hard to go after infantry if they decide to stand in the road or shoot me with a rifle then i will give them a quick blast but my main enjoyment is smashing some fool in a blaster soma who thinks tanking is easy mode SEND ME MORE TANKS TO KILL FOR i DEMAND A WORTH OPPONENT!!!
I AM THE KING OF THE BLASTER!!!
deal with it
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6288
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:08:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't.
Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? What are you mad about? That somebody had the audacity to choose a role different from yours? No, I'm just wondering how many of you are bored of this "role" you call tanking. No, you just can't understand why someone would choose vehicles over infantry. However Spkr......Blasters **** up vehicle balance and ruin the role of HAV by allowing HAV to roll as anti infantry units. Since where have you seen a tank fit a .50 cal over a 165mm turret on its main cupola?
Answer you don't. HAV shouldn't be Anti infantry units, or have such potent Anti Infantry capacity in the hands of the main pilot. It however should be a platform that will allow 2 other to make use of solid Anti Infantry fire power, while providing massive ordinance and the best anti vehicle fire power on the map.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6288
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:09:00 -
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Glitch116 wrote:i really enjoy the that fact that it is now possible to make money tanking something that has been hard to do in uprising so far i also enjoy the Tank vs Tank fights nothing feels better the ripping a red tank up like a tin can with my blaster how ever it does get dull without any challengers each time i start getting on a tank killing spree wreaking all the tank spam with my blaster some asshat with a murder taxi of a mega modded rail comes and ruins tank battles are amazing but getting insta popped for doing my job sucks its total cockblock and just kills it for me i dont really try all that hard to go after infantry if they decide to stand in the road or shoot me with a rifle then i will give them a quick blast but my main enjoyment is smashing some fool in a blaster soma who thinks tanking is easy mode SEND ME MORE TANKS TO KILL FOR i DEMAND A WORTH OPPONENT!!!
I think tanks should be good, and making money in Vehicles should be possible....but not in HAV unless you are skilled and careful with your deployments.
I hate how Soma spamming scrubs can make a buck over real tankers who throw down high SP invested gear.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Thorn Badblood
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
129
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:13:00 -
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Honestly I don't even see what role a tank plays in DUST 514
Is there anything on the battlefield which requires a tank to be there? Not as far as I can tell. We have LAV's and DS for transport and a little vehicle flavor and both can be easily countered with infantry AV.
Can tanks be fun? Yes. Is there a point to them in DUST 514? No
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
496
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:19:00 -
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I enjoy my tank alt because it's a bit of sweet revenge for my infantry time.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6288
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:19:00 -
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Thorn Badblood wrote:Honestly I don't even see what role a tank plays in DUST 514
Is there anything on the battlefield which requires a tank to be there? Not as far as I can tell. We have LAV's and DS for transport and a little vehicle flavor and both can be easily countered with infantry AV.
Can tanks be fun? Yes. Is there a point to them in DUST 514? No They don't play a role yet. They need to, and other newer vehicle frames also need roles.
As I see it the roles should be this
LAV- Cheap, Fast, Lightly Armoured, Good Anti Infantry Capacity on Light turrets
MAV- Moderately Expensive, Moderately Armoured, Medium Anti Infantry and Vehicle Capacity, Anti Infantry or Infantry Support.
HAV- Expensive, Heavily Armoured, High Fire power, AoE Rounds, Anti Vehicle Focus
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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richiesutie 2
The Rainbow Effect
699
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:24:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:I enjoy my tank alt because it's a bit of sweet revenge for my infantry time. I used to but now its just stale. 15mil of sp wasted.
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
353
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:36:00 -
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Thorn Badblood wrote:Honestly I don't even see what role a tank plays in DUST 514
Is there anything on the battlefield which requires a tank to be there? Not as far as I can tell. We have LAV's and DS for transport and a little vehicle flavor and both can be easily countered with infantry AV.
Can tanks be fun? Yes. Is there a point to them in DUST 514? No
really? no role? and you have the audacity to whine about tanks? let me tell you a tanks role, A TANKS ROLE IS TO KILL OTHER TANKS AND TERRORIZE AND DEMORALIZE INFANTRY JUST LIKE IN THE REAL WORLD, DUH.
if you guys hate blasters so damn much wha the hell are you idiots going to do when amar laser turrets are released or minmatar auto-cannnons because i will gaurentee they too will rampage on infantry just as easily |
Mortedeamor
1308
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:37:00 -
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richiesutie 2 wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:yes it i quiet enjoyable exspecially slaughtering all the infantry if there are no groups of tanks to stop me...
and as for the blaster turret the blaster is the only non scrub turret..i consider rails and missiles worse than blasters blasters require more skill to use vs other tanks So you run a tank which is meant to kill infantry, run into a fight between a rail gun tank because one of the infantry probably got pissed off? Which in turn ****' you off? Do you see the irony? no enemy rail tanks dont **** me off tank v tank is very balanced unlike infantry its much more enjoyable
+1 for IWS to stay as cpm
more-tae-dee-um-more
stop asking how to pronounce my name its quiet irritating
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
353
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:43:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't.
Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? What are you mad about? That somebody had the audacity to choose a role different from yours? No, I'm just wondering how many of you are bored of this "role" you call tanking. No, you just can't understand why someone would choose vehicles over infantry. However Spkr......Blasters **** up vehicle balance and ruin the role of HAV by allowing HAV to roll as anti infantry units. Since where have you seen a tank fit a .50 cal over a 165mm turret on its main cupola? Answer you don't. HAV shouldn't be Anti infantry units, or have such potent Anti Infantry capacity in the hands of the main pilot. It however should be a platform that will allow 2 other to make use of solid Anti Infantry fire power, while providing massive ordinance and the best anti vehicle fire power on the map.
ever seen a 25mm quad cannon anti-aircraft tank? they can kill infantry too not just choppers and planes im going to laugh at you when i see you make another thread about this same crap after minmatar auto-cannons are implemented. if a blaster tank is killing you how about using a railgun or a missle tank to kill it like a smart person would do, or you could continue to be an idot and shoot it witha rifle |
True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6297
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Posted - 2014.01.29 01:19:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:Thorn Badblood wrote:Honestly I don't even see what role a tank plays in DUST 514
Is there anything on the battlefield which requires a tank to be there? Not as far as I can tell. We have LAV's and DS for transport and a little vehicle flavor and both can be easily countered with infantry AV.
Can tanks be fun? Yes. Is there a point to them in DUST 514? No really? no role? and you have the audacity to whine about tanks? let me tell you a tanks role, A TANKS ROLE IS TO KILL OTHER TANKS AND TERRORIZE AND DEMORALIZE INFANTRY JUST LIKE IN THE REAL WORLD, DUH. if you guys hate blasters so damn much wha the hell are you idiots going to do when amar laser turrets are released or minmatar auto-cannnons because i will gaurentee they too will rampage on infantry just as easily
But tanks do not typically directly engage infantry..... though they do provide a platform for gunners to engage infantry.
As for those turrets they need to be rethought to fit the role of Main Battle Canon.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6297
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Posted - 2014.01.29 01:24:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:
ever seen a 25mm quad cannon anti-aircraft tank? they can kill infantry too not just choppers and planes im going to laugh at you when i see you make another thread about this same crap after minmatar auto-cannons are implemented. if a blaster tank is killing you how about using a railgun or a missle tank to kill it like a smart person would do, or you could continue to be an idot and shoot it witha rifle
Blaster tanks never kill me. Always a Rail or Missile. I personally just don't like Blasters and Blaster Tanks even though I use them. I feel they do not adequately allow a tank to fulfil its role as a heavy vehicle.
Blaster Weapons could still be implemented but perhaps in the form of Heavy Plasma Launchers. In the case of Auto canon? Well we don't even know if Auto Canon will be CCP's choice of Min turret. They could choose instead to have a 200mm Main Artillery Turret.
You also misunderstood me. The primary role of the AA gun is to take out Air units not infantry. Most real world armoured vehicles are geared to deal with other vehicles. Their weapon and still kill infantry....but aren't directly designed to.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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CLONE117
planetary retaliation organisation ACME Holding Conglomerate
613
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Posted - 2014.01.29 01:38:00 -
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u may think they r not designed to kill infantry. but they use em that way anyways.
if were to compare our blaster tank to the tank that was in the bf4 beta. that vehicle had a machine gun that could effectively kill infantry players and an ap shell weapon. at default. both of these weapons being under control of the player. it also took the entire enemy team to kill me when i grabbed the tank as well on that game.
our large 80gj blaster turret can effectively engage infantry and other vehicles with the use of only one turret. so no turret switching or weapon switching with the tank as that single turret can do both. unlike the bf4 tank where we would switch to the machine gun to take down infantry and use the explosive shells to take out enemy vehicles.
id say the blaster fits in as a combination of the bf4 ap shell cannon and that machinegun which r both under control of the driver. |
True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6300
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Posted - 2014.01.29 01:46:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:u may think they r not designed to kill infantry. but they use em that way anyways.
if were to compare our blaster tank to the tank that was in the bf4 beta. that vehicle had a machine gun that could effectively kill infantry players and an ap shell weapon. at default. both of these weapons being under control of the player. it also took the entire enemy team to kill me when i grabbed the tank as well on that game.
our large 80gj blaster turret can effectively engage infantry and other vehicles with the use of only one turret. so no turret switching or weapon switching with the tank as that single turret can do both. unlike the bf4 tank where we would switch to the machine gun to take down infantry and use the explosive shells to take out enemy vehicles.
id say the blaster fits in as a combination of the bf4 ap shell cannon and that machinegun which r both under control of the driver. I don't think that is right. This should be a tactical shooter. Defined roles, manipulation of engagement scenarios, etc.
I am struggling why Tankers want to have their jobs be so easy ******* retarding infantry dropkicks are now doing it?
REDACTED- That was uncalled for. My apologies...however my point stands. Why do tankers want an easy job? I don't. I want taking to be hard again!
However despite that what is it that give BF4 its vehicle balance?
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Thorn Badblood
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
130
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Posted - 2014.01.29 02:44:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:Thorn Badblood wrote:Honestly I don't even see what role a tank plays in DUST 514
Is there anything on the battlefield which requires a tank to be there? Not as far as I can tell. We have LAV's and DS for transport and a little vehicle flavor and both can be easily countered with infantry AV.
Can tanks be fun? Yes. Is there a point to them in DUST 514? No really? no role? and you have the audacity to whine about tanks? let me tell you a tanks role, A TANKS ROLE IS TO KILL OTHER TANKS AND TERRORIZE AND DEMORALIZE INFANTRY JUST LIKE IN THE REAL WORLD, DUH. if you guys hate blasters so damn much wha the hell are you idiots going to do when amar laser turrets are released or minmatar auto-cannnons because i will gaurentee they too will rampage on infantry just as easily
You proved my point exactly
Its there to kill other tanks, so if no other tanks exist it has no purpose, therefore tanks have no purpose, but I got the usual educated response I expect on these forums.
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Otavio Martins
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
196
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Posted - 2014.01.29 04:09:00 -
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richiesutie 2 wrote:Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't.
Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks?
im ******* happy with this balance. and yes, blaster tankers can be considered real tanks
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6320
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Posted - 2014.01.29 04:26:00 -
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Otavio Martins wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't.
Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? im ******* happy with this balance. and yes, blaster tankers can be considered real tanks
Not in the traditional sense they aren't
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The Attorney General
1904
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Posted - 2014.01.29 04:50:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
But tanks do not typically directly engage infantry..... though they do provide a platform for gunners to engage infantry.
As for those turrets they need to be rethought to fit the role of Main Battle Canon.
Tanks were originally designed to engage infantry, and there was a school of thought that led to the creation of the split type tanks common in the inter war period.
The British split their units up into Cruisers and Infantry tanks, with each attempting to fulfill a specific function in the force.
Even MBT's have Canister shot, and a couple of other options for main cannon rounds.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
353
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Posted - 2014.01.29 08:18:00 -
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Thorn Badblood wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:Thorn Badblood wrote:Honestly I don't even see what role a tank plays in DUST 514
Is there anything on the battlefield which requires a tank to be there? Not as far as I can tell. We have LAV's and DS for transport and a little vehicle flavor and both can be easily countered with infantry AV.
Can tanks be fun? Yes. Is there a point to them in DUST 514? No really? no role? and you have the audacity to whine about tanks? let me tell you a tanks role, A TANKS ROLE IS TO KILL OTHER TANKS AND TERRORIZE AND DEMORALIZE INFANTRY JUST LIKE IN THE REAL WORLD, DUH. if you guys hate blasters so damn much wha the hell are you idiots going to do when amar laser turrets are released or minmatar auto-cannnons because i will gaurentee they too will rampage on infantry just as easily You proved my point exactly Its there to kill other tanks, so if no other tanks exist it has no purpose, therefore tanks have no purpose, but I got the usual educated response I expect on these forums.
by using that logic there is no use in even playing the damn game fool why dont u just quit already |
LowerThan SnakeShip
Ultramarine Corp
1
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Posted - 2014.01.29 08:43:00 -
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the point of a tank is what it is in real combat to engage targets from an armored platform .
its called combined warfare infantry, armor, air support, and support fire. the princiable being if you cant bring one of these elements to the battlefield you are not combat effective as a team
HAV have a role my disagreements are that the sica and soma require no skill and have a good chance of killing an acutal tanker if they forced the militia fits to take turrets as they do on the AUR and LP version it would be alot less broken
if you didnt have HAV rail i would rule the game with assualt dropships vice versa if you got rid of that too then why have any vehicles or turrents then you would just be playing COD
i say stop crying if you are infanrty and HAV is your problem you should squad up with a real tanker its called tactics
and boom boom jeeps are legit too but hey if your infantry shoots the mine it should blow up before it gets to your HAV you only see this because cheap HAV are running everywhere.
whats not fair is i **** off the wrong guy and he dive bombs my dropship since i cant see half of what a tanker can see at least you see the jeep and your vehicle physics make sense alot more than the impacts of a dropship
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4447
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
965
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Posted - 2014.01.29 08:48:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Does a bear **** in the woods?
lost me, because you have stars in your sentence.
Troll, For lifeGǪ But maybe a dragon, uh a bigger dragon.
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Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
135
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Posted - 2014.01.29 09:28:00 -
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I always use the railgun and target vehicles but don't worry i still mop the floor with you infantry |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1702
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Posted - 2014.01.29 11:26:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't.
Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? What are you mad about? That somebody had the audacity to choose a role different from yours? No, I'm just wondering how many of you are bored of this "role" you call tanking. See, some ppl play a game. In this game they want to have fun with things. They see tanks and they like tanks otherwise. So, they play tanks to have fun. They don't take this game so seriously that they think they have to win the game for you or help you win the game. I help myself win the game every time ( and by winning I mean having fun with whatever I want to kick around withGǪ and beer.) I enjoy sniping, tanking and anything else deemed useless and that pisses console kiddie tryhards off. Because enjoyment is half the battle. No, wait, it IS the battle. Why should I hack the objectives when you lemmings have that covered? I don't think he knows what hacking an objective is.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1702
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Posted - 2014.01.29 11:29:00 -
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richiesutie 2 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't.
Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? What are you mad about? That somebody had the audacity to choose a role different from yours? No, I'm just wondering how many of you are bored of this "role" you call tanking. No, you just can't understand why someone would choose vehicles over infantry. Can't you just leave this thread? LOL
Makes a thread asking me if I enjoy tanks, doesn't like my response and asks me to leave.
LOL!
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1702
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Posted - 2014.01.29 11:30:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:Considering 80% of tanks have blaster turrets and just mop up infantry, I don't.
Should blaster tankers be considered real tanks? What are you mad about? That somebody had the audacity to choose a role different from yours? No, I'm just wondering how many of you are bored of this "role" you call tanking. No, you just can't understand why someone would choose vehicles over infantry. However Spkr......Blasters **** up vehicle balance and ruin the role of HAV by allowing HAV to roll as anti infantry units. Since where have you seen a tank fit a .50 cal over a 165mm turret on its main cupola? Answer you don't. HAV shouldn't be Anti infantry units, or have such potent Anti Infantry capacity in the hands of the main pilot. It however should be a platform that will allow 2 other to make use of solid Anti Infantry fire power, while providing massive ordinance and the best anti vehicle fire power on the map. So something that's good enough to use in space, and a race's preferred weapon, cannot be used on the ground because it's too good at its job?
Doesn't make sense to me.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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richiesutie 2
The Rainbow Effect
710
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Posted - 2014.01.29 11:31:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: LOL
Makes a thread asking me if I enjoy tanks, doesn't like my response and asks me to leave.
LOL!
I was asking for your opinion.....
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
354
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Posted - 2014.01.30 04:05:00 -
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richiesutie 2 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: LOL
Makes a thread asking me if I enjoy tanks, doesn't like my response and asks me to leave.
LOL!
I was asking for your opinion.....
well you got it dipstick we like our tanks and turrets and we dont want them fkd with |
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