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Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.28 00:29:00 -
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So, my fellow nerds.
A simple question :
Would you pay Aurum in order to change the racial type of one of your existing BPO's? (IE: Change a Dragonfly Scout BPO to a Caldari suit instead of a gallente?)
Obvious Disclaimer : This is something I want to pitch to CCP but want to make sure people would buy it first. Not only this, but it's very possible that this would be very hard to implement and CCP may not have the time to do this anytime soon (if at all)
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DISGRUNTLEDev
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
301
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Posted - 2014.01.28 00:36:00 -
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I would love to have a scout BPO of every race. That would rock!
Guess I could get all four assault varients too... |
Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
1164
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Posted - 2014.01.28 00:36:00 -
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If we're talking theoretical here, then yes, I would.
But I'm fairly certain CCP doesn't want to support the current BPO system anymore.
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage is more lethal.
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Yokal Bob
G.R.A.V.E
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
318
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Posted - 2014.01.28 00:43:00 -
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yes
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3
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Posted - 2014.01.28 00:45:00 -
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I'd prefer even more to pay to change my racial avatar and starting BPO suits.  But yeah, would be neat to convert some of the prize stuff I don't use into something valuable.
I'm convinced though that the longterm solution here isn't as much to shuffle around existing assets as it is to fully convert our current BPO's into a skin that could be applied to consumable gear. Meaning if I've got a Dren BPO skin, than I use it to apply the unique color scheme to my medium suits that I use up in combat. This would preserve the value that players have around unique (and renewable) colored suits, while still addressing CCP's design problems with existing "bottomless" gear sources. |
Kushmir Nadian
Valor Coalition
375
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Posted - 2014.01.28 00:50:00 -
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Sure would.
Do it, CCP. Get me out of this filthy Amarr gear.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.01.28 00:55:00 -
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Yes, would not increase the amount of BPOs in the game so won't hurt the game's economy, and opens up a new way for CCP to make money.
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.28 01:06:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:I'd prefer even more to pay to change my racial avatar and starting BPO suits. But yeah, would be neat to convert some of the prize stuff I don't use into something valuable. I'm convinced though that the longterm solution here isn't as much to shuffle around existing assets as it is to fully convert our current BPO's into a skin that could be applied to consumable gear. Meaning if I've got a Dren BPO skin, than I use it to apply the unique color scheme to my medium suits that I use up in combat. This would preserve the value that players have around unique (and renewable) colored suits, while still addressing CCP's design problems with existing "bottomless" gear sources.
I don't like the idea, if I don't run Amarr I wouldn't be able to use my Templar BPOs. One thing people don't talk about enough with BPOs is not only are they unlimited but they require 0 SP to use. Basic suits would become a barrier between people and the potential suit skin change you speak of.
I like how BPOs work now and I think if we had more players the ones we have wouldn't be an issue in an open market.
Also content with BPO versions are become a smaller and smaller percentage of overall content.
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Mc Ribwich
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
480
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Posted - 2014.01.28 01:11:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:So, my fellow nerds.
A simple question :
Would you pay Aurum in order to change the racial type of one of your existing BPO's? (IE: Change a Dragonfly Scout BPO to a Caldari suit instead of a gallente?)
Obvious Disclaimer : This is something I want to pitch to CCP but want to make sure people would buy it first. Not only this, but it's very possible that this would be very hard to implement and CCP may not have the time to do this anytime soon (if at all)
Sorta, although I would really love to be able to pay Aurum to change my character's merc quarters. I've been stuck in the Caldari MQ for so long and would really like to change it.
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Garth Mandra
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
302
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Posted - 2014.01.28 02:41:00 -
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Sure. I'd pay some money for that.
Semi Off Topic:
Changing existing BPOs to purely cosmetic would make we unhappy. With appropriate reparations I could live with it though.
One step towards helping BPOs no break the economy would be to could BPOs as an appropriate BPC when dealing with loot and payouts. This could have the unfortunate side effect of making money out of nowhere though.
Another alternative I've seen mentioned is for the BPOs to automagically produce X BPC dropsuits every day. Depending on X this could be almost the same as current BPO without breaking loot. Although it's still money out of nowhere. This would presumably be easier to integrate with industry if/when that happens.
Whatever CCP does there's going to be rage about BPOs. Eventually they'll just have to bite the bullet and do it. If they sweeten the deal somehow then it could be tolerable. |
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CAELAN Andoril
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
82
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Posted - 2014.01.28 02:46:00 -
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Abso-fricken-lutely.
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castba
Penguin's March
304
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Posted - 2014.01.28 02:51:00 -
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Yes, as well as a possible avatar/ma change. |
Ecshon Autorez
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
206
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:31:00 -
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Sure, I'd probably go for it, as long as I can change some of my spare BPOs into things I actually want. I almost have a full set of spare 'Skinweave' suits, only missing the scout, but I do have a 'dragonfly' scout to make up for it. (got some other extras too) (I'm fairly certain I'm missing the scout because of a mixup, but I never filed a ticket since I already had another one, a 'Dragonfly' scout, and a 'Valor' scout  I might regret not submitting that ticket if this actually happens.)
They've just been sitting in the redeem window waiting for me to set them to a character. (But I only have use one toon)
Would you be proposing that all new BPOs be MLT level, or would they be the level of the BPO you traded for? (ie: If a person gives a 'Raven' Assault C-1 for a Minmatar BPO, would they receive a 'Raven' Minmatar M-1, or a 'Raven' Militia Minmatar medium frame.)
And would we... you know... *beabletotrademultipleMLTBPOsinexchangeforoneSTDBPO?
*be able to trade multiple MLT BPOs in exchange for one STD BPO? (MLT Scrambler Pistol + MLT SMG = STD Magsec SMG)
And would they be limited to the class of weapon/dropsuit frame size of the original BPO? ('Exile' AR traded for a 'Exile' Magsec SMG (Light BPO to Sidearm BPO or Magse-Iiii mean Heavy BPO)) or ('Valor' Scout G-1 traded for 'Valor' Sentinel G-1)
*STDMagsecBPO-STDMagsecBPO-STDMagsecBPO-STDMagsecBPO-STDMagsecBPO-STDMagsecBPO*
*gimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimmegimme*
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
1165
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:36:00 -
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I'm still convinced that CCP would sooner remove BPOs as they are than give us more types of BPOs.
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage is more lethal.
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Oswald Rehnquist
1169
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:37:00 -
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I would spend aur for this
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
4152
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Posted - 2014.01.28 04:07:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:So, my fellow nerds.
A simple question :
Would you pay Aurum in order to change the racial type of one of your existing BPO's? (IE: Change a Dragonfly Scout BPO to a Caldari suit instead of a gallente?)
Obvious Disclaimer : This is something I want to pitch to CCP but want to make sure people would buy it first. Not only this, but it's very possible that this would be very hard to implement and CCP may not have the time to do this anytime soon (if at all)
Things i would pay AUR for:
GÖª SP RESPEC OPTION
GÖª Change the Racial Type of one of my BPO
GÖª Change my Dust514 Merc Avatar if needed.
GÖª Costumize Dropsuit. (COLOR WISE: like having a Gal Scout with the Colors of a Caldari Assault ck.0 or being able to use Urban Cammo on my {Future} Cal Scout)
GÖª More BPO
THATS IT.Im not spending any more AUR in anything that is not this.....
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3
1488
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Posted - 2014.01.28 12:06:00 -
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Garth Mandra wrote:Whatever CCP does there's going to be rage about BPOs. Eventually they'll just have to bite the bullet and do it. If they sweeten the deal somehow then it could be tolerable.
This.
The problem isn't the loot, the problem is that BPO's allow people to just avoid material loss entirely. Playing with "free gear" is ultimately unsustainable, and will lead to uncontrollable inflation in the long run, breaking the economy. Its really no surprise to see CCP shrinking away from the issuance of new BPO's, just as its no surprise to see a sizeable isk sink built into Faction Warfare. Anyone on board the "more BPO's!" train is setting themselves up for disappointment in the future. |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
482
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Posted - 2014.01.28 12:31:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Garth Mandra wrote:Whatever CCP does there's going to be rage about BPOs. Eventually they'll just have to bite the bullet and do it. If they sweeten the deal somehow then it could be tolerable. This. The problem isn't the loot, the problem is that BPO's allow people to just avoid material loss entirely. Playing with "free gear" is ultimately unsustainable, and will lead to uncontrollable inflation in the long run, breaking the economy. Its really no surprise to see CCP shrinking away from the issuance of new BPO's, just as its no surprise to see a sizeable isk sink built into Faction Warfare. Anyone on board the "more BPO's!" train is setting themselves up for disappointment in the future.
Yeah, true.
As for BPOs becoming like EVE, I'm all for it, AS LONG AS they are unlimited run BPOs, but require the materials to make the BPCs from them. Why on earth would they be limited-runs? Makes no sense whatsoever. IRL, would a blueprint for a building type magically vanish from existence when someone builds a second building using said blueprint? LOL, no, it's basically just a detailed guide. I have yet to see this issue be mentioned when discussing the possible future of BPOs.
EDIT: OP's proposed idea will never happen, but yes, in this current system I would happily pay AUR to change one of my spare AR BPOs into a CR BPO 
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Trained Skills
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Posted - 2014.01.28 12:47:00 -
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Id pay more for the ability to change the avatar and starting suits, but I would also probably pay some AUR to change up some of my BPOs. |
SteelDark Knight
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
242
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:44:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:
A simple question :
Would you pay Aurum in order to change the racial type of one of your existing BPO's? (IE: Change a Dragonfly Scout BPO to a Caldari suit instead of a gallente?)
Yes. |
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Dremel wp
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:56:00 -
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Probably yes.
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Kain Spero
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.01.28 16:22:00 -
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Sure. Would of course depend on the cost.
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Maken Tosch
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
6621
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Posted - 2014.01.28 19:48:00 -
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As long as the base stats and colors aren't affected, I don't care.
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Ku Shala
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
805
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Posted - 2014.01.28 19:52:00 -
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would be cool but do you really think ccp would take anytime changing something they already consider broken?
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Caldari Loyalist Unite
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
2245
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Posted - 2014.01.29 15:35:00 -
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I would be for this but I still strictly oppose reintroduction of BPO's they are bad for the economy
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Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
2304
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Posted - 2014.01.30 08:44:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:As long as the base stats and colors aren't affected, I don't care.
Ideally would keep the color scheme transposed onto new suit (HIGHLY dependant on how CCP applies colors to suit textures.) but Honestly I would be fine with losing the color scheme if the racial stats and appearance of another race could be used for one of my BPO's instead. (So long as the BPO retains the base stats of whatever tier the original was) |
xp3ll3d dust
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2014.01.30 13:10:00 -
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I've got multiple BPOs that I can't use due to being the wrong race.
I have given them money for Merc pack, Elite pack, veteran pack, collectors edition, I would throw more money at them to help spread my BPOs around. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Tickle My Null-Sac
388
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Posted - 2014.01.30 13:30:00 -
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I missed this thread Nova, but nice one. I don't have any reason at the moment to buy and spend Aurum, aside from just buying Aurum as a show of support for the game, but I would definitely pay for switching my BPO suits to my chosen race. I don't really use them, but I'd still pay
But Heinrich's post is definitely where I'd prefer to spend my Aurum and see Dust BPOs evolved to. Bring out suit and weapon Skins and I'll pay for them. |
Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1604
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Posted - 2014.01.30 13:33:00 -
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I'd pay to switch some of my BPOs to other racial equivalents. There are some that I just can't use because I don't have the skills, and some I have multiple copies of. In particular, the dragonfly scout suit heh.
I wouldn't want to pay a lot though since I know BPOs have to change eventually. They're very helpful right now to anyone who isn't farming the hell out of Molden Heath but in the long run they're bad for the economy, which is the part of the eve universe I find the most interesting. Last I heard the long term plan was for eve players to be able to build and deliver the gear we use. How is that kind of integration going to work if we have blueprints with no material cost and infinite uses? |
Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
3361
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Posted - 2014.01.30 13:39:00 -
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I would totally do this!!!!! Change my raven suit to an amarr assault or something, would be pretty sweet!!!!
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