This may sound lame to some. But if they nerf tank speed down, this may be an option that would help tankers approach a hotzone with the aid of AI controlled gun turrets.

I'm not a tanker by any means. All my corp mates know I've dedicated a good 18,000,000 SP's on my forge gun heavy fit. I just kinda find it sad that the once awesomeness of tanks have slightly taken a wrong turn due to the annoyance of idiotic blueberries who never leave the tank when it was needed. So now the turret slots are practically non existant.

I propose to bring back these turrets with the option of having them AI controlled when there's no gunner. And make so that the AI doesn't shoot soo accurately, but just accurate enough. And the detection firing arc would be limited to where the tanker is looking.

What do you guys think? Of course this can't exist now due to tanks being op. But if nerfed in speed and whatever else CCP deems necessary, it could be a really neat option. It just sucks now seeing all these tanks and none of them have any turrets at all. I'd like to see these brought back so they're usable again.

I still think tank balance is due to one person getting into one and being 300% more effective.

Tank drivers should only get the forward small turret and driving ability of the tank.

They would need an ACTUAL gunner to man the main turret.

Hence turning a Tank into a teamwork event and needing 2 people to really get the full effectiveness out of a tank.

Or we could have Arcade Tanking 514. Where it gets pretty boring for 80% of the people in 30 minutes.

this was an idea i mention to help dropships a wile ago, it be lie Installations sometimes they completely inaccurate but sometimes there dead on, there's no medium for AI ATM that's why it isent included

Yeah dropships too. It would make them more deadly since it would actively be able gun targets.

The problem still is here CCP havent created a good enought dynamic AI
the always i guess is as you suggested make them pinpoint accurate but reduce the damage

I still think tank balance is due to one person getting into one and being 300% more effective.

Tank drivers should only get the forward small turret and driving ability of the tank.

They would need an ACTUAL gunner to man the main turret.

Hence turning a Tank into a teamwork event and needing 2 people to really get the full effectiveness out of a tank.

Or we could have Arcade Tanking 514. Where it gets pretty boring for 80% of the people in 30 minutes.

I still think tank balance is due to one person getting into one and being 300% more effective.

Tank drivers should only get the forward small turret and driving ability of the tank.

They would need an ACTUAL gunner to man the main turret.

Hence turning a Tank into a teamwork event and needing 2 people to really get the full effectiveness out of a tank.

Or we could have Arcade Tanking 514. Where it gets pretty boring for 80% of the people in 30 minutes.

I still think tank balance is due to one person getting into one and being 300% more effective.

Tank drivers should only get the forward small turret and driving ability of the tank.

They would need an ACTUAL gunner to man the main turret.

Hence turning a Tank into a teamwork event and needing 2 people to really get the full effectiveness out of a tank.

Or we could have Arcade Tanking 514. Where it gets pretty boring for 80% of the people in 30 minutes.

When you want to use your fave dropsuit only you can move around but you need a 2nd person to aim and fire the primary weapon

When you want to use your fave dropsuit only you can move around but you need a 2nd person to aim and fire the primary weapon

When you want to use your fave dropsuit only you can move around but you need a 2nd person to aim and fire the primary weapon

this, the whole split gunnery and driving idea is just a terrible one, not only for gameplay reasons but for isk and sp reasons as well. who specs what? will there be new role specific skills that allow each person to push their role to ridiculous levels? do both people need to meet the requirements to man the tank? who pays for the tank? who fits it? how many times will veicles be lost because one member of the pair is an incompetent noob who just jumped in the seat before your friend could? how many times will you lose a tank because the other person can't see what you can see or respond to your instructions, as a dropship pilot i know this well its horrible trying to talk someone onto a target as someones trying to kill you.

the current model is the best, battlefield uses the same one for a reason, as does planetside 2 and every other widely played shooter with vehicles in it, it works best and provides the best player satisfaction. not only would this change kill the tanker population (which is what a large segment of the AV crowd seem to want), and i mean proper tankers there not the FOTM militia users, it would screw up the already delicate vehicle balance as the devs have to completely redesign how tanks work.

Like has been said, it's a force multiplier equation problem every time. If it takes two people to operate a tank to it's potential... with a limit of 16vs16 it really makes the choice of battlefield roles more balanced. - What makes you think it will be 16v16 forever?

We have had skilling plans for Turret structures in DUST for a long time.. there was supposed to be an entire specialization around it... you have been playing long enough to know that turret skilling and having a gunner has always been a thing in DUST. - Only had gunners because we couldnt get rid since most gunners were ****** bluedots

Gameplay reasons? having Tankers operating in true pairs, having to communicate and use their combined ability to neutralize enemy tankers and pinpoint AV threats. The ability to focus drive and independently have the turret operating at max potential. Sounds like it could be some of the most interesting gameplay in DUST. - I operate with another tank, sometimes i operate with 2/3 more tanks to clear the field, sometimes i operate a DS and be the eye in the sky for the tanks, sometimes i work with a sniper so hes the eye watching the field and can direct me to an enemy tank. As for driving and me not operating a turret i would be fine with that if it was an option like a new specalised tank but i would still want TPV on it due to a turret being slow to turn.

Yes some tanks might be lost in the learning curve? but i don't personally think tanks are to cheap. - A lot would be lost, why bother tanking if you need a 2nd person and you get resticted in what you can do

I still think tank balance is due to one person getting into one and being 300% more effective.

Tank drivers should only get the forward small turret and driving ability of the tank.

They would need an ACTUAL gunner to man the main turret.

Hence turning a Tank into a teamwork event and needing 2 people to really get the full effectiveness out of a tank.

Or we could have Arcade Tanking 514. Where it gets pretty boring for 80% of the people in 30 minutes.

Like has been said, it's a force multiplier equation problem every time. If it takes two people to operate a tank to it's potential... with a limit of 16vs16 it really makes the choice of battlefield roles more balanced.

We have had skilling plans for Turret structures in DUST for a long time.. there was supposed to be an entire specialization around it... you have been playing long enough to know that turret skilling and having a gunner has always been a thing in DUST.

Gameplay reasons? having Tankers operating in true pairs, having to communicate and use their combined ability to neutralize enemy tankers and pinpoint AV threats. The ability to focus drive and independently have the turret operating at max potential. Sounds like it could be some of the most interesting gameplay in DUST.

Yes some tanks might be lost in the learning curve? but i don't personally think tanks are to cheap.

Locking vehicles has been something we have asked for since closed beta... We got this delayed entering a vehicle Crap bandaid that makes team play and waiting for your team member stupid.. I would think that not good enough and wanting a true locking vehicle option for Corporation members, PSN friends and public... would be more of an issue then having some random jump in a seat.

And dropshipping with gunners, no matter how successful it is... is some of the most enjoyable gameplay in DUST.. Communicating with your squad mates the positions... the whole having to rely on your squad mate... so many different factors that make it thrilling play..

Meh maybe if you just tweak a few small things everything will be alllllllllllright