In what game will shooting a tank or flying vehicle do any damage? In what game will shooting friendlies help you in any way?

Ya know CCP, I've been telling you this since the beta, but you just don't ******* get it do you?

If you let 6 proto gods, two of whom are in tanks, join into a pub room with nothing but soloing randoms on the other side it's going to be a redline fest every damned time.

There's a couple of things that have to be taken as fact regarding most PSN FPS players:
1) They are completely inept. No...really. A sorrier lot of worthless douchebags cannot be found under a collective banner. Think of the dumbest blue dot you've ever seen and then figure that there are others even dumber than that.
2) They don't have mics
3) They don't go to message boards
4) The vast majority of them don't know what PC is, and even if they did they have no desire to partake in it since they aren't hardcore gamers.
5) The only EvE they are familiar with is "Summer's"
6) The ones that are from EvE are some of the worst blue dots out there.
7) They can't find even the most simple of objectives. I know this because I've spent all day waiting for them to come along with me to an objective only to watch them meander off in the opposite direction at the point of no return and get slaughtered by guys in ADV gear after they've torn me apart on the button.

Today was just horrible...I saw whole teams (not in tanks) go negative 5 or 6 times. And not kind of negative. I mean 1/17.

This is not just a result of the lackluster play of the blue dots. It's the fact that on the kill feed I see the same 4 or 6 guys committing wholesale blue dot genocide and every feed starts with "Boundless", or "Kaalikota", or Ishkune etc. The guys running around 4 to 6 deep running proto gear are sending the blue dots (and myself) screaming to the redline. I can't even get out in a fully tanked 7-8K HP without getting ganked by three other tanks/assault Dropships.

And again, this isn't a few games, this was over the course of five hours.

How long do you think someone that has zero investment in this game is going to keep sticking it out once they figure out that their skill means next to nothing compared to the gear they don't have and won't acquire for months? They're dumb, but they aren't THAT dumb.

And it's fully likely that before they have that epiphany that they've completely borked their toon's skill tree.

DUST is a massive uphill battle in a lot of ways. The "War Academy" is a nice gesture but at the end of the day is a damned joke. Throwing guys still primarily in Militia gear against PC players that are earning 100 million a week and can actually afford to go isk negative in pub rooms and not care about it one lick...maybe the game should be renamed to Dickmove514; because that's all it really is.

There is no "HTFU", or "Adapt or Die"...there is no adaptation to be had, just scores of players going negative and they quit playing the game. It's not a matter of skill, or "grinding", it's the fact that they can't even be competitive. I like the new lower TTK, but when you're playing with a max EHP under 400 and going against guys that can press the trigger twice and reduce you to a faint memory...eventually players aren't going to care about leveling or proficiency...they just want to be able to compete and know they aren't set up to fail.

Where are the numbers CCP? You're keeping them. What does the "average" dust player look like hours wise? Have they been released? If they're good or in your favor, why not? I figure since the numbers aren't posted, they support the claims being made that this game can't retain a player base.

And why is that? Massive built in imbalance. Newbs being throw in against proto stomping PC quality players makes this game ZERO fun. At some point the model for Dust starts feeling more and more like a facebook game than a groundbreaking RPG FPS.

Get your act together and separate the newbs from the vets or for the love of all that's holy have an ADV or lower game mode or just be prepared to become a "coulda been" failure on the scale of MAG and Brink.

Use the squad finder. Don't play as a solo random with other solo randoms.

This game has never been intended to be a "solo random game". If you insist on playing as a solo random, then you deserve to get proto stomped by coordinated teamplayers every time.

Quit whining, quit playing as a solo random, get better.

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Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!

WTH is PC?

Competitive FPS gaming is neck and neck with competitive MOBA for the most hardcore gaming environment.

What this is about is the fact that the ENTIRE FPS community, from casuals to hardcore expect certain elements in their games