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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:06:00 -
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Gunmouse wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:
Why are you seemingly so afraid of a Skill Points system removal? Do you need Skill Points that badly?
I don't..... that's why I have 2 million unallocated SP's. The real question is... why do you need to FOTM so badly?
So, you never need SP, and all I can do is abuse it, we need to remove it, right?
Free, on-demand Respecs. Because it doesn't matter and no one should care.
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Teilka Darkmist
45
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:16:00 -
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Scalesdini wrote:[quote=Teilka Darkmist] So, as someone who only plays heavy, and only enjoys playing heavy, I should have done exactly what for the two years I've been playing the game? Run militia suits? I was promised racial heavies "soon-not-Gäó" a year ago, yet here we are still a month or two away from actually having them.
**** off with your hurrdurr I play EVE and we didn't get this so neither should anyone in Dust elitist BS, it's an apples to oranges comparison and you know it. Want to talk entitlement? I'm entitled to stop playing the game for several months while I gain passive SP for the suit I want, during which time CCP will be entitled to a 0% chance of me spending money if I don't get a refund for the SP I was forced to put into Amarr heavies to play the game how I wanted to play. I am far from the only person who feels this way.
Some of you "NO RESPEC EVER" lot need to get over yourselves.
No, as someone who plays heavy and only plays heavy you should have put your SP into the heavy related skill tree, and just not used the excess if you knew that all you ever wanted to do was heavy and there were additional skills coming which you'd most likely want.
If I was an eve elitist, I would play eve exclusively. As I play dust as well it's pretty safe to assume I'm not. I keep referring to eve as it's the closest comparison available to dust and the systems in dust originated in eve.
You're entitled to play or not as you see fit, I personally think that the queue up skills and learn them over time skill system is preferable to the passive sp system that we have in dust currently, however I can see there would possibly have been problems with that considering a large portion of the skills weren't available at launch. But no-one forced you to spend those SP, you could have, just as easily saved them.
I'm not advocating no respec ever as it goes, I'm trying to get my point across that there is an alternative to a respec, which is to work with what you have already skilled into until you have the additional SP to get the additional skills you want for the new equipment. I've already said that if there is a respec, I'll use it to move my SP around so I have better level in what I want to specialise in. But I'm not demanding a respec because bonuses have changed around and things don't do exactly the same things that they did before the patch.
When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
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Teilka Darkmist
45
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:21:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Teilka Darkmist wrote:The entitlement some people obviously feel is amazing. Tell me, how much is your monthly subscription to Dust?
Go look at the Eve forums around whenever an expansion comes out. We don't keep moaning about how the game's changed so much and we want our SP back so we can play the role we want. We look at the stats, look at our skills and what we want to do and we play around with fittings so we can do what we want.
Will I use a respec/refund/ whatever if they give it? Yes, I'd be stupid not to. Do I feel entitled to one? Hell no. I'd happily pay a subscription for Dust if I could earn ISK freely, play for Dust Side PLEX and have even one 10th the features EVE has. That's a **** poor argument and you know it.
I'd happily pay for a sub to dust as it is, knowing from CCP's track record that they're most likely going to use my money to hire the people and spend the time to make the game better. So it's a pretty good argument really.
When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
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Siv Ravenwood
Ruthless Freedom Force
11
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:26:00 -
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Ether way I am staying with Minny Logi however the 2mill I have tied into Cal suits would get places else where and even the points in AR and SCR would get dumped into the combat rifle or maybe into something like RE or Nades. But at the end of the day they are just making my logi suit better so meh |
Jadd Hatchen
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
340
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:34:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:They also can't just stop with Dropsuit Command. They'll need to do the other two infantry trees if they do one.
I'm public in my anti-respec stance but I'd be cool with one last refund due to the sweeping changes just to shut people up. The only thing that makes me hesitate is that some players think this sets a precedence for it happening again when more items are added and things are balanced. CCP feels the exact same way.
What happens when racial heavy weapons are added? Respec!
Pilot suits? Respec! Bored? Respec! Your finely tuned 100% FOTM skill set is nerfed? Respec!
I think CCP won't give one because the trees are not being changed.
Actually the heavy weapons yes... the pilot suits NO.
Why the difference? Fairness and verisimilitude. Right now we have only two races' versions of heavy weapons. This FORCES the other two races to have to skill into them and use them if they want to use a heavy weapon at all. On the other hand NO ONE has a pilot suit yet. So if you were to introduce ALL four races' versions of a pilot suit AT THE SAME TIME, then everyone is equally able to take advantage of them.
Does this help you to see the difference now?
Also, I have a thread bout respecs here:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118583&find=unread
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
948
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Posted - 2014.01.22 21:17:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:LOL NO SP RESPEC
YOU KNOW THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHOOSING SKILLS WITH ONE BONUS AND HAVING IT AND THE SUIT REPLACED WITH SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT? FOR THE REPLACEMENT, IT'S INVALIDATING YOUR CHOICE AND FORCING YOU TO PLAY WHAT THEY HAVE NOW DECIDED UPON. FOR A REFUND YOU'D BE ALLOWED TO ACTUALLY MAKE AN INFORMED CHOICE INSTEAD OF BEING FORCED TO REMAIN WITH SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT BE WHAT YOU GOT INTO THE SUIT FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE.
UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO AND YOU'LL KNOW WHY PEOPLE WHO DON'T SUPPORT REFUNDS DURING MASSIVE OVERHAULS ARE SPACTARDS.
That will be all. Psst, hey, they previously said (months ago) that Logi/Scout stuff was going to be changed.
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Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1732
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:13:00 -
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evetards.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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m twiggz
Pradox One Proficiency V.
261
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:20:00 -
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Is this thread even viable? Alldin Kan is the OP. This should have been ignored from the get go. |
KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:20:00 -
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I DON'T REALLY CARE BUT CHANCES LIKE THIS TO WTITE IN ALL CAPS ARE JUST TOO FEW AND FAR BETWEEN.
I HAVE NOTHING RELEVANT TO SAY, MUCH LIKE THE OP....
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
951
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:48:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:Is this thread even viable? Alldin Kan is the OP. This should have been ignored from the get go. YOU DOUBT THE GREAT ALLDIN??? D:
Uprising 1.7 - TANKDOMINATION!!1!!1!
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m twiggz
Pradox One Proficiency V.
262
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:54:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:m twiggz wrote:Is this thread even viable? Alldin Kan is the OP. This should have been ignored from the get go. YOU DOUBT THE GREAT ALLDIN??? D: NOT ONLY DO I DOUBT, BUT I DEFY! |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
994
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:16:00 -
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bump
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
10963
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:21:00 -
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Backlogged content =/= new content
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
534
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:22:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:YOU KNOW THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SP RESPEC FOR 1.7 AND 1.8? FOR 1.7 THE ENTIRE SKILL TREE FOR VEHICLES GOT RESTRUCTURED. FOR 1.8 WE'RE GETTING NEW CONTENT + EXTRA SKILLS TO THE CURRENT SKILL TREE. UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO AND YOU'LL KNOW WHY THERE'S LITTLE CHANCE FOR 1.8 SP RESPEC. That will be all.
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Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
304
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:30:00 -
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I think Respec respec is supposed to be reskill SP Respec refund?
No? |
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