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Fenix Alexarr
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:20:00 -
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http://imgur.com/a/k6ttm
I just spent my MLK evening playing some Dust and I decided after a couple of matches to take some screens of the outcomes of random Ambush - the most likely game mode for people to play (new or old) if running solo.
As you can see, the past few hours have done nothing for my personal KDR. I'd like to call your attention to the matches where there was an entire team of people from the same corporation communicating on comms, stomping the randoms' guts out.
This isn't such a big deal since it is allowed of course. But I have to ask myself if the devs would think this was a fun game as a solo random on what is supposed to be the most dead night of the week (no one needs SP practically).
Is this your intention? I'm asking CCP Logibro and CCP Soxfour specifically. I know sox has some appendicitis going on, but this goes for anyone filling in for him. Does this look like fun?
I've been to fanfest (the 10 yr anniversary was spectacular btw). I've been in Dust's beta since I was allowed. I play when I can. Give me one good reason why you think that you deserve any money from the 'filthy casuals' with a match making system that is broken beyond words.
I get it, you want new features for the PC guys (I'm a software engineer by trade - I get it). But what about your casuals that just want to log in and play a few matches? The difficulty curve is simply not a curve anymore. It's worse than the cliff that is eve. The noobs that have no where to go for a lack of time commitment are the ones that suffer here.
there is of course that whole 'HTFU'... As a seven year + eve vet, I'm more than familiar. But there's nothing to harden up to. When there is zero room for growth as a player, your only option is to simply quit. I was able to do what I could with the linked groups, but I'm not going to be in all of these matches. When are you going to take a stand and say that pre-made groups need to be stuck with pre-made groups to play against? Feeding noobs to the grinder is what happens in Eve. We can get away with it somewhat since there's more to do than 'lobby shooter'.
I'm here asking on behalf of the noobs. Help us developers. New suits won't save us. You're our only hope! |
KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3863
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:27:00 -
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I dont even play ambush. Only stat padders there.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2729
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:35:00 -
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The NPE should warn players away from ambush. |
JL3Eleven
1585
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:35:00 -
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CCP is bad and should feel bad.
Supercorp: A corporation with the ability to shape and control events and project power on a New Eden-wide scale.
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McFurious
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
522
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:40:00 -
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Maybe 1.9 will finally introduce PVE.
Half Irish. Often angry.
Closed Beta Masshole
Durka durka.... Bitch.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3868
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:46:00 -
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THEN AGAIN, i have seen BurgezzE.T.F Pub stomp Ambush several times too..so...
Ehe....ehem....yeah i was already leaving...
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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VALCORE72
NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS
8
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:55:00 -
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Fenix Alexarr wrote:http://imgur.com/a/k6ttm
I just spent my MLK evening playing some Dust and I decided after a couple of matches to take some screens of the outcomes of random Ambush - the most likely game mode for people to play (new or old) if running solo.
As you can see, the past few hours have done nothing for my personal KDR. I'd like to call your attention to the matches where there was an entire team of people from the same corporation communicating on comms, stomping the randoms' guts out.
This isn't such a big deal since it is allowed of course. But I have to ask myself if the devs would think this was a fun game as a solo random on what is supposed to be the most dead night of the week (no one needs SP practically).
Is this your intention? I'm asking CCP Logibro and CCP Soxfour specifically. I know sox has some appendicitis going on, but this goes for anyone filling in for him. Does this look like fun?
I've been to fanfest (the 10 yr anniversary was spectacular btw). I've been in Dust's beta since I was allowed. I play when I can. Give me one good reason why you think that you deserve any money from the 'filthy casuals' with a match making system that is broken beyond words.
I get it, you want new features for the PC guys (I'm a software engineer by trade - I get it). But what about your casuals that just want to log in and play a few matches? The difficulty curve is simply not a curve anymore. It's worse than the cliff that is eve. The noobs that have no where to go for a lack of time commitment are the ones that suffer here.
there is of course that whole 'HTFU'... As a seven year + eve vet, I'm more than familiar. But there's nothing to harden up to. When there is zero room for growth as a player, your only option is to simply quit. I was able to do what I could with the linked groups, but I'm not going to be in all of these matches. When are you going to take a stand and say that pre-made groups need to be stuck with pre-made groups to play against? Feeding noobs to the grinder is what happens in Eve. We can get away with it somewhat since there's more to do than 'lobby shooter'.
I'm here asking on behalf of the noobs. Help us developers. New suits won't save us. You're our only hope!
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Guildo Crow
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
195
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:57:00 -
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Yeah it's pretty bad right now. Can't even work up the will to play a match every other day.
IMO; PvE is the saving grace. Casuals and new players will sort themselves out once that gets implemented.
I suggest just logging off for a bit, play something else for a while until CCP incorporates PvE. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1650
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Posted - 2014.01.21 05:00:00 -
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fenix this is why nobody in burgezz plays tankbush.
only exception is when bane puts me in one when I tell him not to. |
VALCORE72
NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS
8
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Posted - 2014.01.21 05:01:00 -
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there best bet is gear based or meta lv . this is really the only way this fkn game will ever grow . u want more ppl ? find a way to stop lettn ppl overrun lower lv ppl . more ppl -more money ccp . not that hard to understand . been playn for 9mths now and ill never seen a game reward bad sportmenship like this . stop treating this like eve ccp plllllzzzzzzz |
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
1080
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Posted - 2014.01.21 05:02:00 -
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im playing monster hunter 3 ultimate. It's a cool game ,and it'll keep me busy untill something actually changes.
And it bridges the gap until destiny lands.
CALDARI not so MASTER RACE
Forum Warrior Level: 10
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender Public Disorder.
385
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Posted - 2014.01.21 05:07:00 -
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For the newer player base, I'm surprised any of them are still here. The community is doing what it can to help the newer players since NOTHING in this game strives to help them along. The Academy is a joke with only a brief reprise before sending them to the meat grinder. I myself haven't played ambush for over 3 patches now because of this.
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
1995
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Posted - 2014.01.21 05:22:00 -
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Competition always looks fun to me
Selling Templar BPO 250Mil
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Cooper Eudaemon
DUST University Ivy League
115
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Posted - 2014.01.21 05:25:00 -
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I don't always play Dust 514, but when I do...
It sure as kitten isn't Ambush, solo. That's as masochistic as it gets.
I need a break from Dust! I'll just go hop on the forums...
I need a break from the forums! I'll just go hop on Dust...
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
8240
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Posted - 2014.01.21 05:32:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:I dont even play ambush. Only stat padders there. This
@OP, I agree with you completely.
Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
2225
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Posted - 2014.01.21 05:47:00 -
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My alt plays tons of Ambush solo to make ISK. Might as well rename the whole mode to TankBush. I'm guilty of it myself; when 1.7 first launched you could find me in every other 50 clone Ambush getting 20+ kills. I still occasionally stomp it when I need ISK. Basically, the enemy spams tanks or you win uncontested most matches. Only on a few maps with truly horrible blues do you usually lose.
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
1638
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Posted - 2014.01.21 05:49:00 -
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Yeah, your first, second, third, and fourth mistakes were not unchecking lolambush in the neocon. Totally unplayable right now.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Amarr victor!
Forum Warrior lv.1
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Darken-Soul
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
46
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Posted - 2014.01.21 06:14:00 -
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Fenix Alexarr wrote:http://imgur.com/a/k6ttm
I just spent my MLK evening playing some Dust and I decided after a couple of matches to take some screens of the outcomes of random Ambush - the most likely game mode for people to play (new or old) if running solo.
As you can see, the past few hours have done nothing for my personal KDR. I'd like to call your attention to the matches where there was an entire team of people from the same corporation communicating on comms, stomping the randoms' guts out.
This isn't such a big deal since it is allowed of course. But I have to ask myself if the devs would think this was a fun game as a solo random on what is supposed to be the most dead night of the week (no one needs SP practically).
Is this your intention? I'm asking CCP Logibro and CCP Soxfour specifically. I know sox has some appendicitis going on, but this goes for anyone filling in for him. Does this look like fun?
I've been to fanfest (the 10 yr anniversary was spectacular btw). I've been in Dust's beta since I was allowed. I play when I can. Give me one good reason why you think that you deserve any money from the 'filthy casuals' with a match making system that is broken beyond words.
I get it, you want new features for the PC guys (I'm a software engineer by trade - I get it). But what about your casuals that just want to log in and play a few matches? The difficulty curve is simply not a curve anymore. It's worse than the cliff that is eve. The noobs that have no where to go for a lack of time commitment are the ones that suffer here.
there is of course that whole 'HTFU'... As a seven year + eve vet, I'm more than familiar. But there's nothing to harden up to. When there is zero room for growth as a player, your only option is to simply quit. I was able to do what I could with the linked groups, but I'm not going to be in all of these matches. When are you going to take a stand and say that pre-made groups need to be stuck with pre-made groups to play against? Feeding noobs to the grinder is what happens in Eve. We can get away with it somewhat since there's more to do than 'lobby shooter'.
I'm here asking on behalf of the noobs. Help us developers. New suits won't save us. You're our only hope!
ha ha you got rolled by dust Brazil.
I am the real Darken
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
1922
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Posted - 2014.01.21 06:25:00 -
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Get rid of squads and vehicles in ambush.
Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset
I Slay, for thy Empress
Do you even PC... Brah
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Ankbar Latrommi
Immortal Guides
37
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Posted - 2014.01.21 06:35:00 -
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VALCORE72 wrote:stop treating this like eve ccp plllllzzzzzzz Welcome to Eve: DUST514. Not Eve Online, but still Eve.
Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning."
Eve> FPS
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Ploo-Koon
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
601
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Posted - 2014.01.21 06:36:00 -
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I've been playing ambush for the past few days with MLT and STD Heavy suits with ADV Rail Rifle, kinkats(sp?), and shield hardeners. I average 7-10 kills per match and pay out is absolutely random but I made 2mil ISK in one day and hit my SP cap. It isn't ideal, you die and lose alot but if you run a cheap fit it's semi-enjoyable.
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THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
427
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Posted - 2014.01.21 06:44:00 -
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Ambush for a solo logi = WP bukake.
Electronic Warfare GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar
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Fenix Alexarr
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
49
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Posted - 2014.01.21 12:03:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:fenix this is why nobody in burgezz plays tankbush.
only exception is when bane puts me in one when I tell him not to.
Well, the problem for me not playing ambush is that the other modes lend themselves to group play (each group takes a point for example). When I want to just solo grind, I'd like to put up against other solo players. Someone mentioned PvE, but then you're not getting any better against players. I do want to play your game CCP. I've been playing it for a long time now, but ambush has never been so broken.
Instead of giving us new suits or new vehicles, just fix the damn matchmaker. I can't advertise this to any of my friends in its current state. They'll join, get stomped by a bunch of queue sync'ing protobears and never want to log in again. |
Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
580
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Posted - 2014.01.21 12:43:00 -
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Fenix Alexarr wrote:http://imgur.com/a/k6ttm
I just spent my MLK evening playing some Dust and I decided after a couple of matches to take some screens of the outcomes of random Ambush - the most likely game mode for people to play (new or old) if running solo.
As you can see, the past few hours have done nothing for my personal KDR. I'd like to call your attention to the matches where there was an entire team of people from the same corporation communicating on comms, stomping the randoms' guts out.
This isn't such a big deal since it is allowed of course. But I have to ask myself if the devs would think this was a fun game as a solo random on what is supposed to be the most dead night of the week (no one needs SP practically).
Is this your intention? I'm asking CCP Logibro and CCP Soxfour specifically. I know sox has some appendicitis going on, but this goes for anyone filling in for him. Does this look like fun?
I've been to fanfest (the 10 yr anniversary was spectacular btw). I've been in Dust's beta since I was allowed. I play when I can. Give me one good reason why you think that you deserve any money from the 'filthy casuals' with a match making system that is broken beyond words.
I get it, you want new features for the PC guys (I'm a software engineer by trade - I get it). But what about your casuals that just want to log in and play a few matches? The difficulty curve is simply not a curve anymore. It's worse than the cliff that is eve. The noobs that have no where to go for a lack of time commitment are the ones that suffer here.
there is of course that whole 'HTFU'... As a seven year + eve vet, I'm more than familiar. But there's nothing to harden up to. When there is zero room for growth as a player, your only option is to simply quit. I was able to do what I could with the linked groups, but I'm not going to be in all of these matches. When are you going to take a stand and say that pre-made groups need to be stuck with pre-made groups to play against? Feeding noobs to the grinder is what happens in Eve. We can get away with it somewhat since there's more to do than 'lobby shooter'.
I'm here asking on behalf of the noobs. Help us developers. New suits won't save us. You're our only hope!
I'd say thanks for taking the time out to show everyone this. To be honest, I haven't stepped foot into ambush for months and months... and by the looks of it, it just got worse. I *AM* that random you describe to the letter... I've never joined a corp, and mostly play solo, but luckily I made it past the "learning curve" and have survived as a paying player. Unfortunately, it's clear that there is a desperate need for a PvE structured intro for new players AND a PvE more in general for players that just want to log in and do something else apart from capture letters all night. I'd say I'm pretty sure CCP shares your concerns, and if comments by the CPM are anything to go by, the new EP wants this to be implemented as soon as is feasible (and not a half-hearted implementation either, something that works).....
On a side note, interesting to see some of the corps that are stomping - some are no surprise of course...
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
719
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Posted - 2014.01.21 12:52:00 -
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You got Nyain Slammed. Get outta ambush to avoid it :)
If you MUST play ambush, I highly recommend using two complex dampeners to avoid Nyain Scans. Unfortunately if the 1.8 Gal Logi precision buff goes through, you'll need to scout up to avoid them.
And also, use remotes, as a straight up fight against Nyain San will likely result in your immediate death. |
Fenix Alexarr
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
51
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Posted - 2014.01.21 13:02:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:You got Nyain Slammed. Get outta ambush to avoid it :)
If you MUST play ambush, I highly recommend using two complex dampeners to avoid Nyain Scans. Unfortunately if the 1.8 Gal Logi precision buff goes through, you'll need to scout up to avoid them.
And also, use remotes, as a straight up fight against Nyain San will likely result in your immediate death.
There were a couple of situations where this might have saved me, but I was just in a free suit (skinweave logi) isk'ing. Interesting idea though. A full team of scout suits with damps and remotes...
Could be fun I guess, but then I think about how quickly they would die to nearly anything rendering the remotes useless.
Ambush in essence is a straight up fight. It's not supposed to have a ton of sneaking around once the firefight is on. There are no points to camp. It's all about the body count. I used to like playing Ambush, because I could work on my gun game without thinking about the point being capped behind me while I'm trying to finish off the heavy that's charging my squad with an HMG and 3 reps on him.
Main point: match making is broken. I'm okay fighting against a squad of nyain, but I want someone else that can compete with them on my team rather than stacking those players with nyain. |
Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
435
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Posted - 2014.01.21 13:03:00 -
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Pub stomp?? PUB STOMP???
Might be a big of proto in there, but for the most part it's all tanks or vehicles! I actually played ambush for the first time in forever this week to reach my cap. Needless to say mission accomplished, just make sure you run cheap fits!
I myself, being a tanker, was looking for infantry play. Quick gun battles and logi stuff. What I find instead are tanks, everywhere. I'm ok to let it go in a few matches, but there were 6 fing tanks a game. Sometimes on both sides, sometimes just one side.
In one, it was 5 MLT tanks (in fact I don't know that they had any actually SP invested tanks) and NO tanks for us. The match was predictably one sided, until a blaster killed me enough times (2 times) to **** me off enough to call my own tank in. They all die, and guess what, we win! I don't even bother with infantry in ambush anymore, my only goal is to keep the tanks down if I can.
But I always have my tank to fall back on when **** is crazy like that (ALWAYS). I feel sorry for the infantry that has to sit there and take it, with no way to fight back, and no way to hide. Something I did learn about ambush, GREAT FOR TANKS. No red lines, every single thing is within reach. Can really separate the scrubby tankers from the good tankers.
I know pub stomps are bad, but these aren't even pub stomps half the time, it's called TANK STOMP. Atm something needs to be done about MLT tanks, N then something needs to be done with matchmaking.
MLT only game mode, No teams mode, ect ect ect.
Nuff Said
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Azura Sakura
Blood Eye Ravens
547
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Posted - 2014.01.21 13:25:00 -
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This is something I always have whine about. I care more for the new players than the stat padding proto bears. You think some people will lay off the try hard when you see half a lobby of starter corps. |
m621 zma
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
94
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Posted - 2014.01.21 13:59:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Get rid of squads and vehicles in ambush.
Can we keep LAV's (providing they aren't Logi LAV's - cos **** walking)
Can we also keep Dropships (of the non Assault variety) |
Scar Scrilla
Cobra Kommando
40
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:38:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:im playing monster hunter 3 ultimate. It's a cool game ,and it'll keep me busy untill something actually changes.
And it bridges the gap until destiny lands.
Go light bowgun for the most possible fun! The games in the MH franchise are some of the most enjoyable games ever..
"Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses"
Scar Scrilla - Proud Commando User & Cobra Kommander
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