http://imgur.com/a/k6ttm

I just spent my MLK evening playing some Dust and I decided after a couple of matches to take some screens of the outcomes of random Ambush - the most likely game mode for people to play (new or old) if running solo.

As you can see, the past few hours have done nothing for my personal KDR. I'd like to call your attention to the matches where there was an entire team of people from the same corporation communicating on comms, stomping the randoms' guts out.

This isn't such a big deal since it is allowed of course. But I have to ask myself if the devs would think this was a fun game as a solo random on what is supposed to be the most dead night of the week (no one needs SP practically).

Is this your intention? I'm asking CCP Logibro and CCP Soxfour specifically. I know sox has some appendicitis going on, but this goes for anyone filling in for him. Does this look like fun?

I've been to fanfest (the 10 yr anniversary was spectacular btw). I've been in Dust's beta since I was allowed. I play when I can. Give me one good reason why you think that you deserve any money from the 'filthy casuals' with a match making system that is broken beyond words.

I get it, you want new features for the PC guys (I'm a software engineer by trade - I get it). But what about your casuals that just want to log in and play a few matches? The difficulty curve is simply not a curve anymore. It's worse than the cliff that is eve. The noobs that have no where to go for a lack of time commitment are the ones that suffer here.

there is of course that whole 'HTFU'... As a seven year + eve vet, I'm more than familiar. But there's nothing to harden up to. When there is zero room for growth as a player, your only option is to simply quit. I was able to do what I could with the linked groups, but I'm not going to be in all of these matches. When are you going to take a stand and say that pre-made groups need to be stuck with pre-made groups to play against? Feeding noobs to the grinder is what happens in Eve. We can get away with it somewhat since there's more to do than 'lobby shooter'.

I'm here asking on behalf of the noobs. Help us developers. New suits won't save us. You're our only hope!

2 Questions: Why run solo in a team-based game? Why play ambush at all?

eh I always solo doms, I would solo skirms but the constant running around bores me, I enjoy the constant fights on the letter.

adapt and overcome. if they bring 6 people you just need to be better then 6 people. or bring 5 of them with you, also occasionally the blue dots aren't complete **** ups and can be useful =).

Adapt and overcome is fine. I agree with that. The problem is that in doing that, you are feeding the problem. The match maker doesn't pair you against the squad of 6 proto stompers all the time. When you don't fight them, you end up steam rolling noobs and casuals.

PC's and FW are great for stomping. In fact, I encourage more people to try and stomp for Caldari since all of my gear comes from the Caldari LP store. In Ambush, you cannot easily control who you fight with and against.

Cheap fit scout damped with proto uplinks... WP leader! The worse my team(?) is, the better I am.

Use the squad finder. Solo players leave themselves at a huge disadvantage. You can still run around and pretend you are Rambo, but the chances are you will have at least 5 other guys on your team that get what Dust is about.

Every one has justifications for their behaviors, notice I didn't say reasons. If you reason it out you would be in a squad.

Rambo wouldn't be here crying that battle is too tough for him.

http://imgur.com/a/k6ttm

I just spent my MLK evening playing some Dust and I decided after a couple of matches to take some screens of the outcomes of random Ambush - the most likely game mode for people to play (new or old) if running solo.

As you can see, the past few hours have done nothing for my personal KDR. I'd like to call your attention to the matches where there was an entire team of people from the same corporation communicating on comms, stomping the randoms' guts out.

This isn't such a big deal since it is allowed of course. But I have to ask myself if the devs would think this was a fun game as a solo random on what is supposed to be the most dead night of the week (no one needs SP practically).

Is this your intention? I'm asking CCP Logibro and CCP Soxfour specifically. I know sox has some appendicitis going on, but this goes for anyone filling in for him. Does this look like fun?

I've been to fanfest (the 10 yr anniversary was spectacular btw). I've been in Dust's beta since I was allowed. I play when I can. Give me one good reason why you think that you deserve any money from the 'filthy casuals' with a match making system that is broken beyond words.

I get it, you want new features for the PC guys (I'm a software engineer by trade - I get it). But what about your casuals that just want to log in and play a few matches? The difficulty curve is simply not a curve anymore. It's worse than the cliff that is eve. The noobs that have no where to go for a lack of time commitment are the ones that suffer here.

there is of course that whole 'HTFU'... As a seven year + eve vet, I'm more than familiar. But there's nothing to harden up to. When there is zero room for growth as a player, your only option is to simply quit. I was able to do what I could with the linked groups, but I'm not going to be in all of these matches. When are you going to take a stand and say that pre-made groups need to be stuck with pre-made groups to play against? Feeding noobs to the grinder is what happens in Eve. We can get away with it somewhat since there's more to do than 'lobby shooter'.

I'm here asking on behalf of the noobs. Help us developers. New suits won't save us. You're our only hope!

Use the squad finder. Solo players leave themselves at a huge disadvantage. You can still run around and pretend you are Rambo, but the chances are you will have at least 5 other guys on your team that get what Dust is about.

Every one has justifications for their behaviors, notice I didn't say reasons. If you reason it out you would be in a squad.

Rambo wouldn't be here crying that battle is too tough for him.

Nyain San says they have their timers set to those times because its the only time they can field enough players.

THEN STOMPS PUBS ALL DAY!

I've been playing ambush for the past few days with MLT and STD Heavy suits with ADV Rail Rifle, kinkats(sp?), and shield hardeners. I average 7-10 kills per match and pay out is absolutely random but I made 2mil ISK in one day and hit my SP cap. It isn't ideal, you die and lose alot but if you run a cheap fit it's semi-enjoyable.

Using a Light Weapon on a heavy suit is just scrub play lol

.. yeah you can .. yeah there's nothing stopping you .. still a scrub way of playing though and is why they still aren't releasing other heavy weapons .. heavies can just use light weapons instead right xD

He isn't. He is saying it is too tough for new players, which it is.

This is something I always have whine about. I care more for the new players than the stat padding proto bears. You think some people will lay off the try hard when you see half a lobby of starter corps.

Read his posts, he is complaining that he cant be effective against squads by himself. He always has a reason he doesn't want to be in a squad. perhaps a different game would suit him. I am just giving advice to someone who clearly needs help.

Truth to tell, this never crosses my mind. I see red dots, I shoot. I play to win, not Play to cather to a lesser players needs. I takes a bit of an investment SP wise to go proto, and if I can afford to run it (I can) I do.

Why play with lesser toys, when the big shiny ones are on the table right next to them!!

Don't blame the players, blame the game! Players just play to win, isn't that the point to a ******* shoooter!!

Truth to tell, this never crosses my mind. I see red dots, I shoot. I play to win, not Play to cather to a lesser players needs. I takes a bit of an investment SP wise to go proto, and if I can afford to run it (I can) I do.

Why play with lesser toys, when the big shiny ones are on the table right next to them!!

Don't blame the players, blame the game! Players just play to win, isn't that the point to a ******* shoooter!!

Or maybe you could read the post...

I'm not asking for help for me. I have a good corp and a squad when I want it. I'm also not complaining about being effective against a squad as a solo player. I understand that running into a group of 6 guys by myself is a pretty bad idea in 95% of situations.

I'm talking about the 'filthy casuals' and how they feel. "HURRR DURRR SQUAD UP" is not a solution to the problem of fresh recruits being put against a team that has several organized squads queue sync'ing and ending up on the same team. Putting those fresh recruits against even unorganized highly skilled/experienced players is also a problem.

As stated in the OP that you didn't bother to read, "Feeding noobs to the grinder is what happens in Eve. We can get away with it somewhat since there's more to do than 'lobby shooter'." Without the lobby shooter, there's nothing else that a solo player can do without having a bunch of experience under his belt or very serious masochistic tendencies (solo ambush).

http://imgur.com/a/k6ttm

I just spent my MLK evening playing some Dust and I decided after a couple of matches to take some screens of the outcomes of random Ambush - the most likely game mode for people to play (new or old) if running solo.

As you can see, the past few hours have done nothing for my personal KDR. I'd like to call your attention to the matches where there was an entire team of people from the same corporation communicating on comms, stomping the randoms' guts out.

This isn't such a big deal since it is allowed of course. But I have to ask myself if the devs would think this was a fun game as a solo random on what is supposed to be the most dead night of the week (no one needs SP practically).

Is this your intention? I'm asking CCP Logibro and CCP Soxfour specifically. I know sox has some appendicitis going on, but this goes for anyone filling in for him. Does this look like fun?

I've been to fanfest (the 10 yr anniversary was spectacular btw). I've been in Dust's beta since I was allowed. I play when I can. Give me one good reason why you think that you deserve any money from the 'filthy casuals' with a match making system that is broken beyond words.

I get it, you want new features for the PC guys (I'm a software engineer by trade - I get it). But what about your casuals that just want to log in and play a few matches? The difficulty curve is simply not a curve anymore. It's worse than the cliff that is eve. The noobs that have no where to go for a lack of time commitment are the ones that suffer here.

there is of course that whole 'HTFU'... As a seven year + eve vet, I'm more than familiar. But there's nothing to harden up to. When there is zero room for growth as a player, your only option is to simply quit. I was able to do what I could with the linked groups, but I'm not going to be in all of these matches. When are you going to take a stand and say that pre-made groups need to be stuck with pre-made groups to play against? Feeding noobs to the grinder is what happens in Eve. We can get away with it somewhat since there's more to do than 'lobby shooter'.

I'm here asking on behalf of the noobs. Help us developers. New suits won't save us. You're our only hope!

Your opening sentence was about solo players. All your posts are about ambush and not being in squads. What conclusion were you hoping I would come to?

Were you here in open beta? That's how long I've been training new players. I have a corp made up of mostly casual players. Making it easy for the solo player is not the way to go. New guys get the shaft. It sucks.

I have always been there for any one who wants to learn. CCP doesn't really care about gear disparity or NPE. They never have. We as leaders must do that on our own. I am telling you and new players to use the squad finder. Read the descriptions. I know I run a training squad or Big Bad HQ most days. There is plenty of people and resources to bridge the gap.

A little advice. Be in your own squad. Make it public and call it something like "Ambush ISK and WP grind". Then every time you enter a match press "select", then select the option for "team chat" and scroll to all of the peeps without a squad and invite them. Then play the match. Then repeat for two or three matches. You'll have a full squad after 3 ambushes in most cases.

I have single handidly switched the tides of battle with an orbital and in really crazy games two. This is all with random peeps. When my corp is running (and they are sick) we typically crush it. Taking out 1 tank, an LAV, multiple uplinks and 8 clones in one shot of an orbital (3rd game this morning before work and before working with the corp) sky rocketing my WP through the roof.

After doing all of that, remember that Ambush is a nothing more than the quick game grind. If you average 6 minutes a game, 3 extra minutes for loading screen, and finding a game you are looking at about 13 games per two hours at an avg of 200k isk per battle. If you are running orbitals there is no excuse to not be at over 1k WP and in some cases over 2k WP. I stomp with an 8k ISK build daily with a team of newbs and sometimes I pick up people with their own tanks. When that happens I can av enemy tanks as support for squad tanks.

You cannot be successful in ambush without a squad. Unless you come in, get to the other end of the map, Pop down multiple uplinks and wait at 0/0 or something and when others are sick of losing clones they spawn with you and hide. But is 300 WP worth it to sit for more than 5 or 6 minutes? I submit that it's not.

All of that being said, I have my 0/5 or 0/7 days with 300 WP. It happens. But ambush is a grind of cluster f'n fun as far as I am concerned...now. I used to hate the tank spam but since I started doing the orbitals it doesn't bother me anymore at all.

My ambush fit is:

Basic MIN-Logi
2 militia enhanced armor
2 militia shields
Drop uplink
basic scanner
militia locus grenade
rail rifle


About 8 to 10k depending if I add a advanced uplink or not for extra WP or a nanite injector but I still take off a LS or HS module.

EDIT: I believe that an auto squading method should be implemented allowing a round robin for leader. Orbitals are single handedly one of the most powerful tools in the game. Not shooting for them or using them or not squading up "because I'm new and don't know how" is not an excuse. Again, I almost ALWAYS invite current players into a squad. I also do it as a charity to new players. Other times I get some sick players who stomp others AND we get the orbital.