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RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 659	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:00:00 - [1] - Quote Seriously, why shoot at triple-hardened HAVs using only Militia Forge-Guns? Plus, the infantry surrounding them is usually even more ******** ( had a NovaScout try and ambush me in a complex,, with about 7 friendlies surrounding me. Finished dat bugger off with my breach ScP ) Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1402	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:02:00 - [2] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Seriously, why shoot at triple-hardened HAVs using only Militia Forge-Guns? Plus, the infantry surrounding them is usually even more ******** ( had a NovaScout try and ambush me in a complex,, with about 7 friendlies surrounding me. Finished dat bugger off with my breach ScP ) How are they supposed to know? There is no way for them to tell. Also, using 3 hardeners is douchey. Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 659	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:04:00 - [3] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: Seriously, why shoot at triple-hardened HAVs using only Militia Forge-Guns? Plus, the infantry surrounding them is usually even more ******** ( had a NovaScout try and ambush me in a complex,, with about 7 friendlies surrounding me. Finished dat bugger off with my breach ScP ) How are they supposed to know? There is no way for them to tell. Also, using 3 hardeners is douchey. Normally, it's easy to guess by checking the damage dealt with 1 shot against it. Though I'd like a sort of warning when they've activated more than 1 , sort of like damage mods Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1836	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:05:00 - [4] - Quote 3 hardeners? Wow. Minmatar Assault. Hopeful Caldari Scout soon. praying for that respec.
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 2186	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:05:00 - [5] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Seriously, why shoot at triple-hardened HAVs using only Militia Forge-Guns? Plus, the infantry surrounding them is usually even more ******** ( had a NovaScout try and ambush me in a complex,, with about 7 friendlies surrounding me. Finished dat bugger off with my breach ScP ) How can they tell the difference between one and three hardeners? Why are you using three hardeners if they're using militia forge guns, anyway? Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 3644	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:05:00 - [6] - Quote I brought out a rail HAV to deal with some reds that got on top of a building- I was then harassed by a squad of idiots shooting at me with ARs and HMGs (the HMG was even shooting well past their optimal range). They repeatedly stepped directly in front of my turret. We used to have a time machine
devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 124	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:06:00 - [7] - Quote Also BC it takes roughly 750k sp to get just the basic forge gun. For most of us newberries, that's a rather steep investment for a very situation dependent weapon, Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 10 page Debate
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 660	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:10:00 - [8] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I brought out a rail HAV to deal with some reds that got on top of a building- I was then harassed by a squad of idiots shooting at me with ARs and HMGs (the HMG was even shooting well past their optimal range). They repeatedly stepped directly in front of my turret. You think that's bad? Try suiciding because that one Einstein decided to step in front of you the moment you let go of your DAU -_- Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
Rusty Shallows 840	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:11:00 - [9] - Quote The first mistake was using Forge Gun anything. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 2188	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:12:00 - [10] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I brought out a rail HAV to deal with some reds that got on top of a building- I was then harassed by a squad of idiots shooting at me with ARs and HMGs (the HMG was even shooting well past their optimal range). They repeatedly stepped directly in front of my turret. You think that's bad? Try suiciding because that one Einstein decided to step in front of you the moment you let go of your DAU -_- I've died like this. Blueberry Scout decided to jump over my head and land in front of me as the shot went off. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.

Scout Registry Nos Nothi 819	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:13:00 - [11] - Quote @ Tankers You guys are so good at this game.
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 935	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:14:00 - [12] - Quote Sometimes I like to mess with people even if I have AV. Last night I deliberately shot at a HAV with a militia Scrambler Pistol just to get them to turn around when I nade it. Lol at my stupid mistake of not looking at his shields and noticing that he's a stacked mofo. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 330	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:16:00 - [13] - Quote Borne Velvalor wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I brought out a rail HAV to deal with some reds that got on top of a building- I was then harassed by a squad of idiots shooting at me with ARs and HMGs (the HMG was even shooting well past their optimal range). They repeatedly stepped directly in front of my turret. You think that's bad? Try suiciding because that one Einstein decided to step in front of you the moment you let go of your DAU -_- I've died like this. Blueberry Scout decided to jump over my head and land in front of me as the shot went off. Had this happen so many times with my Massdriver. Also why do redberrys insist on shootign my tank with their ARs? I didn't even know they where on that ridge to the left, but I sure as hell do now blap
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1407	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:19:00 - [14] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: @ Tankers You guys are so good at this game. I know! I'm so jelly of their finely honed skills! I wish could just get in a militia tank and be as good as they are. Oh, wait... Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 660	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:22:00 - [15] - Quote Beck Weathers wrote: Borne Velvalor wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I brought out a rail HAV to deal with some reds that got on top of a building- I was then harassed by a squad of idiots shooting at me with ARs and HMGs (the HMG was even shooting well past their optimal range). They repeatedly stepped directly in front of my turret. You think that's bad? Try suiciding because that one Einstein decided to step in front of you the moment you let go of your DAU -_- I've died like this. Blueberry Scout decided to jump over my head and land in front of me as the shot went off. Had this happen so many times with my Massdriver. Also why do redberrys insist on shootign my tank with their ARs? I didn't even know they where on that ridge to the left, but I sure as hell do now blap I do that at times if I know some AV trying to ambush you. Plus, most tankers are terrible shots , so....... Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1407	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:27:00 - [16] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: Seriously, why shoot at triple-hardened HAVs using only Militia Forge-Guns? Plus, the infantry surrounding them is usually even more ****** ( had a NovaScout try and ambush me in a complex,, with about 7 friendlies surrounding me. Finished dat bugger off with my breach ScP ) How are they supposed to know? There is no way for them to tell. Also, using 3 hardeners is douchey. Normally, it's easy to guess by checking the damage dealt with 1 shot against it. Though I'd like a sort of warning when they've activated more than 1 , sort of like damage mods Of course, how could I forget! Its so easy to tell the difference between doing a a super OP 40% damage compared to the ultra-balanced 21.6% damage that you deal when there are 3 hardeners*! Gosh, they should just make hardeners passive modules... That way no master-race tanker will ever again be unfairly killed by some FotM AVer! Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire*
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 2190	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:31:00 - [17] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: Seriously, why shoot at triple-hardened HAVs using only Militia Forge-Guns? Plus, the infantry surrounding them is usually even more ****** ( had a NovaScout try and ambush me in a complex,, with about 7 friendlies surrounding me. Finished dat bugger off with my breach ScP ) How are they supposed to know? There is no way for them to tell. Also, using 3 hardeners is douchey. Normally, it's easy to guess by checking the damage dealt with 1 shot against it. Though I'd like a sort of warning when they've activated more than 1 , sort of like damage mods Of course, how could I forget! Its so easy to tell the difference between doing a a super OP 40% damage compared to the ultra-balanced 21.6% damage that you deal when there are 3 hardeners**! Gosh, they should just make hardeners passive modules... That way no master-race tanker will ever again be unfairly killed by some FotM AVer! When there are 3 shield hardeners, you take less than that. Far less. Speaking of which, this reminds me that in another post somewhere I compared the resist of 2 hardeners to 3 amps... hardeners still won, but I meant to use 3v3. Ugh. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3380	Posted - 2014.01.20 04:00:00 - [18] - Quote Where is Atiim with the Facepalm? It is sourly needed. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
GET ATMESON Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 250	Posted - 2014.01.20 04:19:00 - [19] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Seriously, why shoot at triple-hardened HAVs using only Militia Forge-Guns? Plus, the infantry surrounding them is usually even more ******** ( had a NovaScout try and ambush me in a complex,, with about 7 friendlies surrounding me. Finished dat bugger off with my breach ScP ) Ok so tanks are GOD and we cant touch them with hardeners on? Is that fair? They should do just less damage and not 0. You just supported AV'ers with this post. Open Beta Fed 16th 2013. Scout fix + Heavy suits + Heavy guns = soonGäó
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 663	Posted - 2014.01.20 04:25:00 - [20] - Quote GET ATMESON wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: Seriously, why shoot at triple-hardened HAVs using only Militia Forge-Guns? Plus, the infantry surrounding them is usually even more ******** ( had a NovaScout try and ambush me in a complex,, with about 7 friendlies surrounding me. Finished dat bugger off with my breach ScP ) Ok so tanks are GOD and we cant touch them with hardeners on? Is that fair? They should do just less damage and not 0. You just supported AV'ers with this post. Like I even tank Honestly I'm on neither one's side. Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy

GET ATMESON Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 250	Posted - 2014.01.20 04:27:00 - [21] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: GET ATMESON wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: Seriously, why shoot at triple-hardened HAVs using only Militia Forge-Guns? Plus, the infantry surrounding them is usually even more ******** ( had a NovaScout try and ambush me in a complex,, with about 7 friendlies surrounding me. Finished dat bugger off with my breach ScP ) Ok so tanks are GOD and we cant touch them with hardeners on? Is that fair? They should do just less damage and not 0. You just supported AV'ers with this post. Like I even tank Honestly I'm on neither one's side. Honesty is a hard thing to find. +1 Open Beta Fed 16th 2013. Scout fix + Heavy suits + Heavy guns = soonGäó
Rusty Shallows 841	Posted - 2014.01.20 04:29:00 - [22] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Where is Atiim with the Facepalm? It is sourly needed. Considering all that is going on the friction blisters probably make it painful now. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 692	Posted - 2014.01.20 04:41:00 - [23] - Quote They're actually proto forges but with hardeners there's no real difference. Personally I shoot at armor hardened tanks to keep the shield down and deal a little bit of armor damage so there's less buffer between life & death as they run away when the hardener(s) goes down. Though I'm not constantly shooting it and I try to time it so the hardener(s) goes down when I'm about done reloading. CCP: Is it the most asinine way possible to do this? Yes. Then that's how we're doing it.
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 1058	Posted - 2014.01.20 04:56:00 - [24] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: The first mistake was using Forge Gun anything. the second mistake was decideding to not use a tank. *CALDARI not so MASTER RACE* Forum Warrior Level: 10
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 11	Posted - 2014.01.20 05:00:00 - [25] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Sometimes I like to mess with people even if I have AV. Last night I deliberately shot at a HAV with a militia Scrambler Pistol just to get them to turn around when I nade it. Lol at my stupid mistake of not looking at his shields and noticing that he's a stacked mofo. Me and my corp ceo stayed on top of a rail tank a whole game melee him for fun. We also rode his canon he staid there like we where flies. It was a shame we had no recording equipment it would have been fun to do the best dummy montage ever !
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1105	Posted - 2014.01.20 05:04:00 - [26] - Quote Zekain K wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: The first mistake was using Forge Gun anything. the second mistake was decideding to not use a tank. Pauses Dragons Dogma. The first mistake was a log in to Dust 514. The second mistake was selecting a loadout. The third mistake was decideing to play Dust 514 in its current broken state. Goes back to playing Dragons Dogma. Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3699	Posted - 2014.01.20 05:22:00 - [27] - Quote 3 Hardeners? Go Biomass yourself I fire at hardened tanks all the time. It forces them to keep back and gives my team some breathing room $#!t players will always be $#!t players. What If I made a thread saying how tankers are slightly ******** because of all the idoits in a MLT tank? I'm surprised they didn't just use a tank. 3 Cycled hardners would make you near impossible to destroy if you know what your doing. Why do you even have 3 hardeners? If you get jumped by a Wyrikomi FG or Railgun, then you won't be able to rep the damage and eventually die anyways. Kill 1 and 7 more come right back. Makes you wonder if tankers are like zombies. Although, that would explain a lot.
Scott Knight Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 13	Posted - 2014.01.20 05:38:00 - [28] - Quote I shot at a tank earlier cause I needed a quick clone change to AV and we had the clones to spare. And just to change it around why would a tanker get out of their tank and try to recall it by an objective that we were going for? I killed him before he knew what hit him.
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 2197	Posted - 2014.01.20 05:42:00 - [29] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Edit: O'golly me. It seems I did my math wrong and though 3 hardeners only provided a measly 79.4% resistance. It appears they provide a (much more balanced IMO) 94.6% resistance. That seems far more fitting for a tanker, they deserve the best. Gosh tankers are so skilled, and are the best kind of people. The resistance is, to the best of my knowledge: 1 - [(1 - 0.6) (1 - 0.6 * 0.5^[((2 - 1) / 2.22292081) ^2]) * (1 - 0.6 * 0.5^[((3 - 1) / 2.22292081) ^2])]* Or, simply, 1 - [(1 - 0.6) (1 - 0.5215) * (1 - 0.3423)]* which comes out to 87.4% resistance. So, we take 12.6% damage. Not sure how you got such a high resistance. Hopefully this is correct. This is enough to have a proto swarm hitting you once every second and just rep through it. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 666	Posted - 2014.01.20 05:48:00 - [30] - Quote Atiim wrote: 3 Hardeners? Go Biomass yourself Heehee Me no tanky-tanky I fire at hardened tanks all the time. It forces them to keep back and gives my team some breathing room Me too. $#!t players will always be $#!t players. What If I made a thread saying how tankers are slightly ******** because of all the idoits in a MLT tank? Would be funny because it's actually true Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy



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