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Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 981	Posted - 2014.01.18 19:38:00 - [1] - Quote There should be an infantry quota of 9 per match. And the argument that its unfair because others may not be able to use what they specced into is BS. Sound ridiculous? Well that's how you all sound to every vehicle user. Prt SL, SCR, SR . ADV FGs, MDs, LaZor, KNs. Gunnlogi, Falchion, Python, Caldari LDS. (+require) Prt L. Am, Adv HVY, LGS
Amarrgheddon Warcaste 106	Posted - 2014.01.18 19:39:00 - [2] - Quote Xender17 wrote: There should be an infantry quota of 9 per match. And the argument that its unfair because others may not be able to use what they specced into is BS. Sound ridiculous? Well that's how you all sound to every vehicle user. both of them?
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8152	Posted - 2014.01.18 19:43:00 - [3] - Quote While I disagree with limiting specific vehicles per battle as a way to balance things, this is comparing apples and oranges. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 167	Posted - 2014.01.18 19:44:00 - [4] - Quote Xender17 wrote: There should be an infantry quota of 9 per match. And the argument that its unfair because others may not be able to use what they specced into is BS. Sound ridiculous? Well that's how you all sound to every vehicle user. When infantry can bail out of their Light/Med/Heavy suit before it explodes and mow down their assailant as a RR/Heavy and then call in a new dropsuit via RDV, maybe could see eye to eye.
AP Grasshopper The Unit 514 145	Posted - 2014.01.18 19:45:00 - [5] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: While I disagree with limiting specific vehicles per battle as a way to balance things, this is comparing apples and oranges. Both delicious fruits of labor, ripely picked from Eden's garden.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3611	Posted - 2014.01.18 19:46:00 - [6] - Quote Immunity to all but 3 Weapons and 2 pieces of Equpment 16,000 ehP Ability to go 30km/h A Hardener to grant theretical immunity to attacks Ability to repair through attacks The power of 2-3 people Enough ammo to last entire games without re-supplying. Tiercided and Techicided suits/modules. Once all of these requirements are met, then you can place a hard cap on the amount of infantry on the field. I'm bored.
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 3622	Posted - 2014.01.18 19:47:00 - [7] - Quote When there's 6 or 7 infantry on an objective, it becomes impossible to get into! this is OP! We used to have a time machine
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3613	Posted - 2014.01.18 19:49:00 - [8] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: When there's 6 or 7 infantry on an objective, it becomes impossible to get into! this is OP! Bro, do you even Core Locus? I'm bored.
Sgt Buttscratch 1332	Posted - 2014.01.18 19:50:00 - [9] - Quote 9 9? your a crack head, only way I could agree if 4 of those were limited to sniping with scrambler pistols I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Toby Flenderson research lab 189	Posted - 2014.01.18 19:55:00 - [10] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Xender17 wrote: There should be an infantry quota of 9 per match. And the argument that its unfair because others may not be able to use what they specced into is BS. Sound ridiculous? Well that's how you all sound to every vehicle user. When infantry can bail out of their Light/Med/Heavy suit before it explodes and mow down their assailant as a RR/Heavy and then call in a new dropsuit via RDV, maybe could see eye to eye. Well said haha

Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 573	Posted - 2014.01.18 19:56:00 - [11] - Quote What if someone has never spec'd into anything? What then? They can deploy in starter suits without harm? Lol But anyways, an HAV has a whole boat load of health and can handle Infantry with ease. There is already a limit on vehicles. Further limiting certain types of vehicles just might be viable for a fun game without getting stomped.
AP Grasshopper The Unit 514 145	Posted - 2014.01.18 19:58:00 - [12] - Quote Atiim wrote: Immunity to all but 3 Weapons and 2 pieces of Equpment 16,000 ehP Ability to go 30km/h A Hardener to grant theretical immunity to attacks Ability to repair through attacks The power of 2-3 people Enough ammo to last entire games without re-supplying. Ability to recall Dropsuit without a supply depot Ability to bail out of dropsuit Tiercided and Techicided suits/modules. Once all of these requirements are met, then you can place a hard cap on the amount of infantry on the field. 1) Douvoulle 2) Please theory craft a fitting for me 3) 2 AV players 4) Vehicles have always been force multipliers, agreed 5) Usually have to resupply once, when I run infantry I usually die before I run out of ammo. How is ammo a problem for either? 6) What exactly would you like to do transform? lul Please elaborate. 7) Redundant irrelevant jealousy? Transformers? 8) Currently the only way for vehicles to be viable as there arn't advanced or proto vehicles, to balance against adv/proto weapons. CCP chose two different methods or balancing vehicles and dropsuits. I agree, they should decided a path but it doesn't mean there has to be imbalance using both methods.
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 714	Posted - 2014.01.18 20:00:00 - [13] - Quote I disagree it doesn't sound ridiculous cos vehicle quota is a thing. *Assassination is my thing.*
AP Grasshopper The Unit 514 145	Posted - 2014.01.18 20:01:00 - [14] - Quote Joel II X wrote: What if someone has never spec'd into anything? What then? They can deploy in starter suits without harm? Lol But anyways, an HAV has a whole boat load of health and can handle Infantry with ease. There is already a limit on vehicles. Further limiting certain types of vehicles just might be viable for a fun game without getting stomped. So do Heavies
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3613	Posted - 2014.01.18 20:02:00 - [15] - Quote AP Grasshopper wrote: Joel II X wrote: What if someone has never spec'd into anything? What then? They can deploy in starter suits without harm? Lol But anyways, an HAV has a whole boat load of health and can handle Infantry with ease. There is already a limit on vehicles. Further limiting certain types of vehicles just might be viable for a fun game without getting stomped. So do Heavies Bro, do you even CreoDron Shotgun? Also, a heavy needs a logi in-order to handle infantry with ease. All while HAVs need: ... Your point is now null and void. I'm bored.
AP Grasshopper The Unit 514 145	Posted - 2014.01.18 20:02:00 - [16] - Quote Just so everyone knows, the vehicle limit is 7 per side.
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 29	Posted - 2014.01.18 20:04:00 - [17] - Quote Xender17 wrote: There should be an infantry quota of 9 per match. And the argument that its unfair because others may not be able to use what they specced into is BS. Sound ridiculous? Well that's how you all sound to every vehicle user. I believe this is how it sounds to a tanker, but that is only because their bias prevents them from listening. I am not infantry, I am a character, so is a person in a tank, the tank is not the character. The equipment available to ANY one character should be limited in its ability relative to all other characters. If a tank is equal in its abilities to the equipment that the infantry have then yes, either tanks should be unlimited or infantry should be limited. This isn't the case as even the most ardent tank supporter knows this is not the case.
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 982	Posted - 2014.01.18 20:05:00 - [18] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Xender17 wrote: There should be an infantry quota of 9 per match. And the argument that its unfair because others may not be able to use what they specced into is BS. Sound ridiculous? Well that's how you all sound to every vehicle user. When infantry can bail out of their Light/Med/Heavy suit before it explodes and mow down their assailant as a RR/Heavy and then call in a new dropsuit via RDV, maybe we could see eye to eye. They can do that 5x times faster with a supply depot Prt SL, SCR, SR . ADV FGs, MDs, LaZor, KNs. Gunnlogi, Falchion, Python, Caldari LDS. (+require) Prt L. Am, Adv HVY, LGS
AP Grasshopper The Unit 514 145	Posted - 2014.01.18 20:05:00 - [19] - Quote Atiim wrote: AP Grasshopper wrote: Joel II X wrote: What if someone has never spec'd into anything? What then? They can deploy in starter suits without harm? Lol But anyways, an HAV has a whole boat load of health and can handle Infantry with ease. There is already a limit on vehicles. Further limiting certain types of vehicles just might be viable for a fun game without getting stomped. So do Heavies Bro, do you even CreoDron Shotgun? Also, a heavy needs a logi in-order to handle infantry with ease. All while HAVs need: ... Your point is now null and void. Atiim, your butt hurt biased. I understand the system isnt perfect but your "Facts" are anything but that. that's all I have to say. See you ingame
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 784	Posted - 2014.01.18 20:09:00 - [20] - Quote But.. don't you need to spawn in a dropsuit before you can call in your vehicle? So you want to reduce the number of players per side to 9? silly post is silly

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3614	Posted - 2014.01.18 20:11:00 - [21] - Quote AP Grasshopper wrote: 1) Douvoulle 2) Please theory craft a fitting for me 3) 2 AV players 4) Vehicles have always been force multipliers, agreed 5) Usually have to resupply once, when I run infantry I usually die before I run out of ammo. How is ammo a problem for either? 6) What exactly would you like to do transform? lul Please elaborate. 7) Redundant irrelevant jealousy? Transformers? 8) Currently the only way for vehicles to be viable as there arn't advanced or proto vehicles, to balance against adv/proto weapons. CCP chose two different methods or balancing vehicles and dropsuits. I agree, they should decided a path but it doesn't mean there has to be imbalance using both methods. I'm not saying vehicles don't need tweaking but seriously Atiim 1. Doesn't give immunity to anything 2. I'm too tired. Ask me later 3. I'd love to see an AV suit go 30km/h. 4. No comment 5. I run an ammo extension unit and I almost never have to resupply. (no this isn't comparible to nanohives, as ammo extension units are both internal and passive. 6. A good tanker requires at least 2-3 people on AV to destroy. 7. Tanks can do this. If we are putting a hard-cap on them that's similar to vehicles then we have to make them similar. Otherwise this would be pointless as it would be an apples to oranges comparison; which would give no good reason for the hard cap idea in the first place. 8. Tiericided and Techicided modules aren't necessarily bad. I'm bored.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3614	Posted - 2014.01.18 20:15:00 - [22] - Quote AP Grasshopper wrote: Atiim, your butt hurt biased. I understand the system isnt perfect but your "Facts" are anything but that. that's all I have to say. See you ingame A CreoDron Shotgun can **** a heavy when you have prof. 3 A heavy relies on support logi to be devastating to anything. HAVs require no support to be devastating to anything, bar a tank of greater or equal value. Those are all facts. I'd love to see someone attempt to argue against them. I'm bored.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 173	Posted - 2014.01.18 20:15:00 - [23] - Quote Joel II X wrote: What if someone has never spec'd into anything? What then? They can deploy in starter suits without harm? Lol But anyways, an HAV has a whole boat load of health and can handle Infantry with ease. There is already a limit on vehicles. Further limiting certain types of vehicles just might be viable for a fun game without getting stomped. Ask all the newberries who get kicked out of the battle academy after 1200WP, I'm sure they'll have an answer.
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A Covert Intervention 696	Posted - 2014.01.18 20:17:00 - [24] - Quote OP , your post gave me cancer ... Tanks 514! Cheap, fast, Indestructible and you see tankers telling it's balanced... Just makes you want to quit this BS
Jason Pearson 4007	Posted - 2014.01.18 20:18:00 - [25] - Quote Xender17 wrote: There should be an infantry quota of 9 per match. And the argument that its unfair because others may not be able to use what they specced into is BS. Sound ridiculous? Well that's how you all sound to every vehicle user. "Well that's how you all sound to every vehicle user" Don't speak for me you mug. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire \\ Bad Mathematician You're a total git, Jason. - kingbabar
AP Grasshopper The Unit 514 145	Posted - 2014.01.18 20:18:00 - [26] - Quote Atiim wrote: AP Grasshopper wrote: 1) Douvoulle 2) Please theory craft a fitting for me 3) 2 AV players 4) Vehicles have always been force multipliers, agreed 5) Usually have to resupply once, when I run infantry I usually die before I run out of ammo. How is ammo a problem for either? 6) What exactly would you like to do transform? lul Please elaborate. 7) Redundant irrelevant jealousy? Transformers? 8) Currently the only way for vehicles to be viable as there arn't advanced or proto vehicles, to balance against adv/proto weapons. CCP chose two different methods or balancing vehicles and dropsuits. I agree, they should decided a path but it doesn't mean there has to be imbalance using both methods. I'm not saying vehicles don't need tweaking but seriously Atiim 1. Doesn't give immunity to anything 2. I'm too tired. Ask me later 3. I'd love to see an AV suit go 30km/h. 4. No comment 5. I run an ammo extension unit and I almost never have to resupply. (no this isn't comparible to nanohives, as ammo extension units are both internal and passive. 6. A good tanker requires at least 2-3 people on AV to destroy. 7. Tanks can do this. If we are putting a hard-cap on them that's similar to vehicles then we have to make them similar. Otherwise this would be pointless as it would be an apples to oranges comparison; which would give no good reason for the hard cap idea in the first place. 8. Tiericided and Techicided modules aren't necessarily bad. Made a mistake, updated my post, please revisit. My bullets are misplaced.
AP Grasshopper The Unit 514 145	Posted - 2014.01.18 20:20:00 - [27] - Quote Lets say HAV limit was 3. I call one in and two of my buddys do. Your just putting your team a disadvantage, you'll be outgunned and now you cant even out number us. How would the newberries feel then? The 3 of us will surley be running Ion cannon and Proto rail or missiles. Go ahead, call 3 Sicas in... Its only fair your allowed to call in 4 more.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1065	Posted - 2014.01.18 20:49:00 - [28] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: While I disagree with limiting specific vehicles per battle as a way to balance things, this is comparing apples and oranges. Apples to oranges? Yeah, like when infantry players complain about a tanker being able to play solo vs. being powerful with the help of a squad? Right on OP. I'm getting tired of infantry getting in the way of my tank fun. CCP needs to make objectives hackable while in a vehicle and within 10 or 20 meters and this game might actually be playable. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 784	Posted - 2014.01.18 21:37:00 - [29] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: While I disagree with limiting specific vehicles per battle as a way to balance things, this is comparing apples and oranges. Apples to oranges? Yeah, like when infantry players complain about a tanker being able to play solo vs. being powerful with the help of a squad? Right on OP. I'm getting tired of infantry getting in the way of my tank fun. CCP needs to make objectives hackable while in a vehicle and within 10 or 20 meters and this game might actually be playable. This is a troll post right... CCP should make a tank only mode so you dolts can go have your jollies.
Rusty Shallows 831	Posted - 2014.01.18 22:00:00 - [30] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: While I disagree with limiting specific vehicles per battle as a way to balance things, this is comparing apples and oranges. Apples to oranges? Yeah, like when infantry players complain about a tanker being able to play solo vs. being powerful with the help of a squad? Right on OP. I'm getting tired of infantry getting in the way of my tank fun. CCP needs to make objectives hackable while in a vehicle and within 10 or 20 meters and this game might actually be playable. Someone's had a preview of the 2014 Fanfest game build. Have-A-HAV 1.0 My plans are to b!tch about the missing Fighters, Speeder-Bikes, and MTACS. If this is going to be a vehicle centered game we need more options. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP

Leeroy SnakeBite Russian Troops Of Chaos E-R-A 10	Posted - 2014.01.18 22:26:00 - [31] - Quote Xender17 wrote: There should be an infantry quota of 9 per match. And the argument that its unfair because others may not be able to use what they specced into is BS. Sound ridiculous? Well that's how you all sound to every vehicle user. I think you will find people problem lies with the fact that every scrub is using tank spam now, it's cheap and gets them cheap kills which they would not normally be getting had they picked a fitting they specced into. I don't believe this tank spam is aimed at those who are specced into vehicles. Surely as a vehicle specced player it must get you back up that these scrubs can simply place out tanks on the field for such a small cost.
Alpha 443-6732 313	Posted - 2014.01.18 22:27:00 - [32] - Quote Why are infantry so tough? I'm shooting at this guy behind a crate... A ******* crate and he is taking NO damage! It's as if he has almost infinity EHP!!! NERF?!?! He can just take a step away from the crate and kill a man before returning to the crate and being invulnerable again!!! CCP, why can't my tank hardeners be made out of crates!!! OP!! Because racism is realism
Mortedeamor 1244	Posted - 2014.01.18 22:36:00 - [33] - Quote i agree +1000 jihhhaders = av lvl 0 swarm master = av lvl 99+
Sextus Hardcock 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 212	Posted - 2014.01.18 22:38:00 - [34] - Quote to be fair there should be a vehicle only mode as well, then all the tankers will have to deal with an equal playing field. enjoy. I am the sixth son Chrome Vet
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 967	Posted - 2014.01.18 22:45:00 - [35] - Quote Atiim wrote: Immunity to all but 3 Weapons and 2 pieces of Equpment 16,000 ehP Ability to go 30km/h A Hardener to grant theretical immunity to attacks Ability to repair through attacks The power of 2-3 people Enough ammo to last entire games without re-supplying. Ability to recall Dropsuit without a supply depot Ability to bail out of dropsuit Tiercided and Techicided suits/modules. Once all of these requirements are met, then you can place a hard cap on the amount of infantry on the field. ^That about sums it up OP, saves me the trouble of saying it myself. Got another anti-vehicle argument you'd like to try against infantry? 'Cause I don't think you could have tried a worse one. Buff passive scans & fix TTK! My Closed Beta Alts - Overlord Ulath, Overlord Bosse, Overlord Zero
Scott Knight Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.01.18 22:45:00 - [36] - Quote Atiim wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: When there's 6 or 7 infantry on an objective, it becomes impossible to get into! this is OP! Bro, do you even Core Locus? You don't even need that, just your average remote explosives can wreck havoc.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5682	Posted - 2014.01.18 22:51:00 - [37] - Quote The only appropriate reaction to a thread such as this Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Scott Knight Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.01.18 22:51:00 - [38] - Quote I think 3 is a fair limit on tanks, however I've practically not seen more than three tanks per side for a long while now. Based on this limiting tanks seems unhelpful. The problem right now seems to be the inability to call in a tank after the opposing side sets up a defense (pc term for camping). Honestly Assault drop ships are just as bad, just less people using them. Basically forget the limits. There needs to be a better solution. Increase range of swarm launchers. Maybe give them an extra missile or slightly increase damage. Increase the war point gain for taking out proto vehicles and dropsuits. For vehicles only maybe give all participants the full wp instead of partial.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 967	Posted - 2014.01.18 22:52:00 - [39] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: Xender17 wrote: There should be an infantry quota of 9 per match. And the argument that its unfair because others may not be able to use what they specced into is BS. Sound ridiculous? Well that's how you all sound to every vehicle user. When infantry can bail out of their Light/Med/Heavy suit before it explodes and mow down their assailant as a RR/Heavy and then call in a new dropsuit via RDV, maybe we could see eye to eye. They can do that 5x times faster with a supply depot What supply depot? The only ones ever left halfway through a match are the ones in the redline, and only if they aren't visible from the field. You can dive into a swarm of infantry mowing people down in a tank, and as soon as it's about to drop you can pop out in a heavy with an HMG at full health and go to town. Buff passive scans & fix TTK! My Closed Beta Alts - Overlord Ulath, Overlord Bosse, Overlord Zero
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 5	Posted - 2014.01.18 22:55:00 - [40] - Quote Atiim wrote: Immunity to all but 3 Weapons and 2 pieces of Equpment 16,000 ehP Ability to go 30km/h A Hardener to grant theretical immunity to attacks Ability to repair through attacks The power of 2-3 people Enough ammo to last entire games without re-supplying. Ability to recall Dropsuit without a supply depot Ability to bail out of dropsuit Tiercided and Techicided suits/modules. Once all of these requirements are met, then you can place a hard cap on the amount of infantry on the field. "The Power of Three" Sound familiar?

Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 990	Posted - 2014.01.18 23:05:00 - [41] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Atiim wrote: Immunity to all but 3 Weapons and 2 pieces of Equpment 16,000 ehP Ability to go 30km/h A Hardener to grant theretical immunity to attacks Ability to repair through attacks The power of 2-3 people Enough ammo to last entire games without re-supplying. Ability to recall Dropsuit without a supply depot Ability to bail out of dropsuit Tiercided and Techicided suits/modules. Once all of these requirements are met, then you can place a hard cap on the amount of infantry on the field. "The Power of Three" Sound familiar? DOCTOR WHO!!!!!!!!!!! Prt SL, SCR, SR . ADV FGs, MDs, LaZor, KNs. Gunnlogi, Falchion, Python, Caldari LDS. (+require) Prt L. Am, Adv HVY, LGS
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 6	Posted - 2014.01.18 23:12:00 - [42] - Quote Xender17 wrote: NK Scout wrote: Atiim wrote: Immunity to all but 3 Weapons and 2 pieces of Equpment 16,000 ehP Ability to go 30km/h A Hardener to grant theretical immunity to attacks Ability to repair through attacks The power of 2-3 people Enough ammo to last entire games without re-supplying. Ability to recall Dropsuit without a supply depot Ability to bail out of dropsuit Tiercided and Techicided suits/modules. Once all of these requirements are met, then you can place a hard cap on the amount of infantry on the field. "The Power of Three" Sound familiar? DOCTOR WHO!!!!!!!!!!!
Cedric Reeg Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 9	Posted - 2014.01.18 23:49:00 - [43] - Quote I like the OP in spirit, but my K/D ratio disagrees. I am torn...
GET ATMESON Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 248	Posted - 2014.01.19 00:01:00 - [44] - Quote Xender17 wrote: There should be an infantry quota of 9 per match. And the argument that its unfair because others may not be able to use what they specced into is BS. Sound ridiculous? Well that's how you all sound to every vehicle user. INF and vehicles are way different in many ways then 1. Making your point invalid. Why not remove the objectives and make it so there is no need to hack. Tanks have alot of fire power and resistance. Do you want to keep tanks the way they are or get nerfed? As of right now the blaster does way to much damage to INF. Tank Spam is a big problem Open Beta Fed 16th 2013. Scout fix + Heavy suits + Heavy guns = soonGäó
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 727	Posted - 2014.01.19 00:04:00 - [45] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: When there's 6 or 7 infantry on an objective, it becomes impossible to get into! this is OP! throws core locus grenade +350
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5885	Posted - 2014.01.19 00:21:00 - [46] - Quote Xender17 wrote: There should be an infantry quota of 9 per match. And the argument that its unfair because others may not be able to use what they specced into is BS. Sound ridiculous? Well that's how you all sound to every vehicle user. Yeah but even I'm thinking the sheer amount of vehicle power on the map is unbalancing game play.....and I love HAV. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 106	Posted - 2014.01.19 00:37:00 - [47] - Quote Just gonna paste this here, since it shut the tankers up once, rage filled logic s an amazing thing. You already are limiting us, and forcing us to run things we don't want. I role assault infantry all day and night, at least I did. Now I have a DMG mod sic a, a suicidal r/e scout, and a militia forge gunner, anfd its all I run now a days. Your saying how would we infantry like to be limited, and in the same sentence how we need to run AV. We are limited. The moment one tank roles up with have to roll AV or be friggen stomped. Your effectively placing a limit because when 2-4 people have to role AV you just made the limit 12 infantry, bring in another tank we need 2 more AV, so we are down to 10 infantry. Bring in all friggen 7 and we need roughly 14 people running AV. we ARE limited. And you don't like being forced to role in suits you don't have points in? Neither do I, I wanna run my lil friggen assault ass off shooting people with an AR. I don't want to have to bring in a tank, I don't want to have to run a suicidal remote explosive plantingscout, iI don't want to run a militia ******* heavy forge gunner, I don't want to have to run a jihad jeep (well OK sometimes I do, its just fun) but I am FORCED to. Suck it up, if I'm forced to run AV to deal with your ass, then you can be forced to run infantry. "Then don't run AV, if you don't want", well then stop telling us the issue is the lack of AV!! Your telling us we have to run AV more and that's the only issue, so your telling us that we are FORCED to run AV to deal with you, where is that any different then being forced to RU. Infantry BC of the vehicle limit? Oh the difference is you might not go 20 and 0 as infantry. Well I'll tell ya what, I don't go 20 and 0 being forced to play AV either. Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 10 page Debate
Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 47	Posted - 2014.01.19 00:41:00 - [48] - Quote Xender17 wrote: NK Scout wrote: Atiim wrote: Immunity to all but 3 Weapons and 2 pieces of Equpment 16,000 ehP Ability to go 30km/h A Hardener to grant theretical immunity to attacks Ability to repair through attacks The power of 2-3 people Enough ammo to last entire games without re-supplying. Ability to recall Dropsuit without a supply depot Ability to bail out of dropsuit Tiercided and Techicided suits/modules. Once all of these requirements are met, then you can place a hard cap on the amount of infantry on the field. "The Power of Three" Sound familiar? DOCTOR WHO!!!!!!!!!!! I was thinking CHARMED lol Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 325	Posted - 2014.01.19 01:11:00 - [49] - Quote devonus durga wrote: Just gonna paste this here, since it shut the tankers up once, rage filled logic s an amazing thing. You already are limiting us, and forcing us to run things we don't want. I role assault infantry all day and night, at least I did. Now I have a DMG mod sic a, a suicidal r/e scout, and a militia forge gunner, anfd its all I run now a days. Your saying how would we infantry like to be limited, and in the same sentence how we need to run AV. We are limited. The moment one tank roles up with have to roll AV or be friggen stomped. Your effectively placing a limit because when 2-4 people have to role AV you just made the limit 12 infantry, bring in another tank we need 2 more AV, so we are down to 10 infantry. Bring in all friggen 7 and we need roughly 14 people running AV. we ARE limited. And you don't like being forced to role in suits you don't have points in? Neither do I, I wanna run my lil friggen assault ass off shooting people with an AR. I don't want to have to bring in a tank, I don't want to have to run a suicidal remote explosive plantingscout, iI don't want to run a militia ***** heavy forge gunner, I don't want to have to run a jihad jeep (well OK sometimes I do, its just fun) but I am FORCED to. Suck it up, if I'm forced to run AV to deal with your ass, then you can be forced to run infantry. "Then don't run AV, if you don't want", well then stop telling us the issue is the lack of AV!! Your telling us we have to run AV more and that's the only issue, so your telling us that we are FORCED to run AV to deal with you, where is that any different then being forced to RU. Infantry BC of the vehicle limit? Oh the difference is you might not go 20 and 0 as infantry. Well I'll tell ya what, I don't go 20 and 0 being forced to play AV either. ha ha i love killin infantry in a blaster tank, if you dont want to run av dont but u need to learn how to avoid tanks if you dont wana run av, and you cant *** and whine about tanks if you dont want to kill them, sorry you dont want to but you got to do what you gotta do, ive plaayed both tank an av the last month and its fine except all the whinny little babies
Amarrgheddon Warcaste 112	Posted - 2014.01.19 01:30:00 - [50] - Quote devonus durga wrote: Just gonna paste this here, since it shut the tankers up once, rage filled logic s an amazing thing. You already are limiting us, and forcing us to run things we don't want. I role assault infantry all day and night, at least I did. Now I have a DMG mod sic a, a suicidal r/e scout, and a militia forge gunner, anfd its all I run now a days. Your saying how would we infantry like to be limited, and in the same sentence how we need to run AV. We are limited. The moment one tank roles up with have to roll AV or be friggen stomped. Your effectively placing a limit because when 2-4 people have to role AV you just made the limit 12 infantry, bring in another tank we need 2 more AV, so we are down to 10 infantry. Bring in all friggen 7 and we need roughly 14 people running AV. we ARE limited. And you don't like being forced to role in suits you don't have points in? Neither do I, I wanna run my lil friggen assault ass off shooting people with an AR. I don't want to have to bring in a tank, I don't want to have to run a suicidal remote explosive plantingscout, iI don't want to run a militia ******* heavy forge gunner, I don't want to have to run a jihad jeep (well OK sometimes I do, its just fun) but I am FORCED to. Suck it up, if I'm forced to run AV to deal with your ass, then you can be forced to run infantry. "Then don't run AV, if you don't want", well then stop telling us the issue is the lack of AV!! Your telling us we have to run AV more and that's the only issue, so your telling us that we are FORCED to run AV to deal with you, where is that any different then being forced to RU. Infantry BC of the vehicle limit? Oh the difference is you might not go 20 and 0 as infantry. Well I'll tell ya what, I don't go 20 and 0 being forced to play AV either. good point. Tankers are whiney little bitches.

devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 109	Posted - 2014.01.19 01:31:00 - [51] - Quote Bah didn't work, and let me guess your AV is some proto been sitting. Collecting sp for the past 6 months, right? Moral of the story, don't run AV. Make an salt and maybe you can kill a tank in 6 months. Till then htfu nooblets Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 10 page Debate
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3753	Posted - 2014.01.19 01:31:00 - [52] - Quote Xender17 wrote: There should be an infantry quota of 9 per match. . Crutch defender Sarcasm 101 GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 504	Posted - 2014.01.19 01:35:00 - [53] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: devonus durga wrote: Just gonna paste this here, since it shut the tankers up once, rage filled logic s an amazing thing. You already are limiting us, and forcing us to run things we don't want. I role assault infantry all day and night, at least I did. Now I have a DMG mod sic a, a suicidal r/e scout, and a militia forge gunner, anfd its all I run now a days. Your saying how would we infantry like to be limited, and in the same sentence how we need to run AV. We are limited. The moment one tank roles up with have to roll AV or be friggen stomped. Your effectively placing a limit because when 2-4 people have to role AV you just made the limit 12 infantry, bring in another tank we need 2 more AV, so we are down to 10 infantry. Bring in all friggen 7 and we need roughly 14 people running AV. we ARE limited. And you don't like being forced to role in suits you don't have points in? Neither do I, I wanna run my lil friggen assault ass off shooting people with an AR. I don't want to have to bring in a tank, I don't want to have to run a suicidal remote explosive plantingscout, iI don't want to run a militia ***** heavy forge gunner, I don't want to have to run a jihad jeep (well OK sometimes I do, its just fun) but I am FORCED to. Suck it up, if I'm forced to run AV to deal with your ass, then you can be forced to run infantry. "Then don't run AV, if you don't want", well then stop telling us the issue is the lack of AV!! Your telling us we have to run AV more and that's the only issue, so your telling us that we are FORCED to run AV to deal with you, where is that any different then being forced to RU. Infantry BC of the vehicle limit? Oh the difference is you might not go 20 and 0 as infantry. Well I'll tell ya what, I don't go 20 and 0 being forced to play AV either. ha ha i love killin infantry in a blaster tank, if you dont want to run av dont but u need to learn how to avoid tanks if you dont wana run av, and you cant *** and whine about tanks if you dont want to kill them, sorry you dont want to but you got to do what you gotta do, ive plaayed both tank an av the last month and its fine except all the whinny little babies Your argument is extremely flawed. There are many maps where avoiding a tank is not really possible. Especially so if the opposing team is running multiple tanks. The real problem with tanks is the fact that ccp is stupid. Who even implements things in this manner? There is NO change control at all to their adjustment process. I compair CCP to the computer tech that thinks your computer is infected, then to find the root cause of the problem replaces your hard drive then wipes the old drive and re-installs the OS. This will never end up in a balance the way ccp is going. Ya lets nerf the heck out of ALL AV weapons then at the same time lets buff the hell out of tanks give them better hardeners better speed better menuverability AND make them cheap to boot. Any of you tankers out there that think for some reason that infantry still have an upper hand need to go back on your meds the voices are making too much sense to you! In the real world it is very possible for 1 trooper to knock out a tank with a man portable weapon and it happens a LOT. Count your lucky stars that is not this way. But dedicated AV players should be able to take out a tank on their own without help and without a bunch of them ganging up on a tank.
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 55	Posted - 2014.01.19 01:50:00 - [54] - Quote Atiim wrote: AP Grasshopper wrote: 1) Douvoulle 2) Please theory craft a fitting for me 3) 2 AV players 4) Vehicles have always been force multipliers, agreed 5) Usually have to resupply once, when I run infantry I usually die before I run out of ammo. How is ammo a problem for either? 6) What exactly would you like to do transform? lul Please elaborate. 7) Redundant irrelevant jealousy? Transformers? 8) Currently the only way for vehicles to be viable as there arn't advanced or proto vehicles, to balance against adv/proto weapons. CCP chose two different methods or balancing vehicles and dropsuits. I agree, they should decided a path but it doesn't mean there has to be imbalance using both methods. I'm not saying vehicles don't need tweaking but seriously Atiim 1. Doesn't give immunity to anything 2. I'm too tired. Ask me later 3. I'd love to see an AV suit go 30km/h. 4. No comment 5. I run an ammo extension unit and I almost never have to resupply. (no this isn't comparible to nanohives, as ammo extension units are both internal and passive. 6. A good tanker requires at least 2-3 people on AV to destroy. 7. Tanks can do this. If we are putting a hard-cap on them that's similar to vehicles then we have to make them similar. Otherwise this would be pointless as it would be an apples to oranges comparison; which would give no good reason for the hard cap idea in the first place. 8. Tiericided and Techicided modules aren't necessarily bad. You run an ammo unit? What a waste of a slot.
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 55	Posted - 2014.01.19 01:52:00 - [55] - Quote Amarrgheddon wrote: devonus durga wrote: Just gonna paste this here, since it shut the tankers up once, rage filled logic s an amazing thing. You already are limiting us, and forcing us to run things we don't want. I role assault infantry all day and night, at least I did. Now I have a DMG mod sic a, a suicidal r/e scout, and a militia forge gunner, anfd its all I run now a days. Your saying how would we infantry like to be limited, and in the same sentence how we need to run AV. We are limited. The moment one tank roles up with have to roll AV or be friggen stomped. Your effectively placing a limit because when 2-4 people have to role AV you just made the limit 12 infantry, bring in another tank we need 2 more AV, so we are down to 10 infantry. Bring in all friggen 7 and we need roughly 14 people running AV. we ARE limited. And you don't like being forced to role in suits you don't have points in? Neither do I, I wanna run my lil friggen assault ass off shooting people with an AR. I don't want to have to bring in a tank, I don't want to have to run a suicidal remote explosive plantingscout, iI don't want to run a militia ******* heavy forge gunner, I don't want to have to run a jihad jeep (well OK sometimes I do, its just fun) but I am FORCED to. Suck it up, if I'm forced to run AV to deal with your ass, then you can be forced to run infantry. "Then don't run AV, if you don't want", well then stop telling us the issue is the lack of AV!! Your telling us we have to run AV more and that's the only issue, so your telling us that we are FORCED to run AV to deal with you, where is that any different then being forced to RU. Infantry BC of the vehicle limit? Oh the difference is you might not go 20 and 0 as infantry. Well I'll tell ya what, I don't go 20 and 0 being forced to play AV either. good point. Tankers are whiney little bitches. Now I wont say this game is balanced, its not. It needs serious balance passes on vehicles, dropsuits AND most weapons. However you can use supply depots to switch to what ever you need to. A tank cannot change from a railgun to a blaster at the click of a button. Anyway blame CCP they made this mess.
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1651	Posted - 2014.01.19 01:54:00 - [56] - Quote Atiim wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: When there's 6 or 7 infantry on an objective, it becomes impossible to get into! this is OP! Bro, do you even Core Locus? bro do you even have a positive KD? Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Alpha 443-6732 314	Posted - 2014.01.19 01:58:00 - [57] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Xender17 wrote: NK Scout wrote: Atiim wrote: Immunity to all but 3 Weapons and 2 pieces of Equpment 16,000 ehP Ability to go 30km/h A Hardener to grant theretical immunity to attacks Ability to repair through attacks The power of 2-3 people Enough ammo to last entire games without re-supplying. Ability to recall Dropsuit without a supply depot Ability to bail out of dropsuit Tiercided and Techicided suits/modules. Once all of these requirements are met, then you can place a hard cap on the amount of infantry on the field. "The Power of Three" Sound familiar? DOCTOR WHO!!!!!!!!!!! Doctor who cares? Because racism is realism
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3755	Posted - 2014.01.19 02:01:00 - [58] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Atiim wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: When there's 6 or 7 infantry on an objective, it becomes impossible to get into! this is OP! Bro, do you even Core Locus? bro do you even have a positive KD? Personal attacks on Atiim wont do much. GÖª Getting humiliated over the internet is impossible since none of us really knows each other not gives a sh** about each other GÖª Atiim's K/D ratio has nothing to do with the Thread GÖª Tanks are broken/ Are a crutch. And will get Nerfed. End of conversation GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 505	Posted - 2014.01.19 02:14:00 - [59] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: Amarrgheddon wrote: devonus durga wrote: Just gonna paste this here, since it shut the tankers up once, rage filled logic s an amazing thing. You already are limiting us, and forcing us to run things we don't want. I role assault infantry all day and night, at least I did. Now I have a DMG mod sic a, a suicidal r/e scout, and a militia forge gunner, anfd its all I run now a days. Your saying how would we infantry like to be limited, and in the same sentence how we need to run AV. We are limited. The moment one tank roles up with have to roll AV or be friggen stomped. Your effectively placing a limit because when 2-4 people have to role AV you just made the limit 12 infantry, bring in another tank we need 2 more AV, so we are down to 10 infantry. Bring in all friggen 7 and we need roughly 14 people running AV. we ARE limited. And you don't like being forced to role in suits you don't have points in? Neither do I, I wanna run my lil friggen assault ass off shooting people with an AR. I don't want to have to bring in a tank, I don't want to have to run a suicidal remote explosive plantingscout, iI don't want to run a militia ******* heavy forge gunner, I don't want to have to run a jihad jeep (well OK sometimes I do, its just fun) but I am FORCED to. Suck it up, if I'm forced to run AV to deal with your ass, then you can be forced to run infantry. "Then don't run AV, if you don't want", well then stop telling us the issue is the lack of AV!! Your telling us we have to run AV more and that's the only issue, so your telling us that we are FORCED to run AV to deal with you, where is that any different then being forced to RU. Infantry BC of the vehicle limit? Oh the difference is you might not go 20 and 0 as infantry. Well I'll tell ya what, I don't go 20 and 0 being forced to play AV either. good point. Tankers are whiney little bitches. Now I wont say this game is balanced, its not. It needs serious balance passes on vehicles, dropsuits AND most weapons. However you can use supply depots to switch to what ever you need to. A tank cannot change from a railgun to a blaster at the click of a button. Anyway blame CCP they made this mess. Sure you can have 2 variants saved and whala you dont even need a supply depot!
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 505	Posted - 2014.01.19 02:16:00 - [60] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Atiim wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: When there's 6 or 7 infantry on an objective, it becomes impossible to get into! this is OP! Bro, do you even Core Locus? bro do you even have a positive KD? Personal attacks on Atiim wont do much. GÖª Getting humiliated over the internet is impossible since none of us really knows each other not gives a sh** about each other GÖª Atiim's K/D ratio has nothing to do with the Thread GÖª Tanks are broken/ Are a crutch. And will get Nerfed. End of conversation BTW i finally saw you on combat the other day king. Glad you got the game to work properly. I totally agree but to me tanks and AV are totally broken. AV needs a buff to at least easily take out LAV's and tanks need a massive nerf sledgehammer.

Happy Jack SD Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 53	Posted - 2014.01.19 02:23:00 - [61] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: A tank cannot change from a railgun to a blaster at the click of a button. A tank can, they just have to hop out and call in another tank. No need for any type of installation. but they're vulnerable outside of their tank! So's the infantry guy stuck interfacing with the Supply Depot. "Have faith lest your unbelief consume you." -The Bleeding Chalice
Alpha 443-6732 316	Posted - 2014.01.19 02:26:00 - [62] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Xender17 wrote: There should be an infantry quota of 9 per match. And the argument that its unfair because others may not be able to use what they specced into is BS. Sound ridiculous? Well that's how you all sound to every vehicle user. "Well that's how you all sound to every vehicle user" Don't speak for me you mug. All tankers need to be consolidated in to one. Join us! Join spkr4thedead's legion! (spkr4thedead is bad, can't even ram my tank without dying to an orbital or getting rekt otherwise) Because racism is realism
trollface dot jpg The Bacon Corporation 123	Posted - 2014.01.19 02:44:00 - [63] - Quote Alpha 443-6732 wrote: NK Scout wrote: Xender17 wrote: NK Scout wrote: Atiim wrote: Immunity to all but 3 Weapons and 2 pieces of Equpment 16,000 ehP Ability to go 30km/h A Hardener to grant theretical immunity to attacks Ability to repair through attacks The power of 2-3 people Enough ammo to last entire games without re-supplying. Ability to recall Dropsuit without a supply depot Ability to bail out of dropsuit Tiercided and Techicided suits/modules. Once all of these requirements are met, then you can place a hard cap on the amount of infantry on the field. "The Power of Three" Sound familiar? DOCTOR WHO!!!!!!!!!!! Doctor who cares? Yes. Yes he does. As irritating as his terrible grammar was..... I'm starting to miss Mr. Zitro.....
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 56	Posted - 2014.01.19 02:56:00 - [64] - Quote Happy Jack SD wrote: ANON Cerberus wrote: A tank cannot change from a railgun to a blaster at the click of a button. A tank can, they just have to hop out and call in another tank. No need for any type of installation. but they're vulnerable outside of their tank! So's the infantry guy stuck interfacing with the Supply Depot. So it is balanced then, awesome :)
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3640	Posted - 2014.01.19 03:11:00 - [65] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: bro do you even have a positive KD? Yes I do. Couldn't really care either way. Also, how many of those kills that you have actually relied on gungame instead of ez-mode tanking? (Your not the only one who can play the CoD scrub K/D ***** game) I'm bored.
Rusty Shallows 833	Posted - 2014.01.19 03:16:00 - [66] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Atiim wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: When there's 6 or 7 infantry on an objective, it becomes impossible to get into! this is OP! Bro, do you even Core Locus? bro do you even have a positive KD? O'Dell you're better than this. Your reputation is on the good side of HAV TCs, admittedly teasing out trolling verses serious comments can be tricky. It can be so difficult to get a decent discussion on these forums and a good number of your threads have been excellent reading. Atiim is taking part of the full-contact side to these forums. I think he missed that McBob was cracking a joke at the O.P. This very thread was a troll from the start so other people trolling is expected. God as my witness gritty-cynicism is the best. I love it the most. Closely followed some of the crazy shenanigans going on around here. All you did was a vindictive sucker-punch. It's nigh impossible to find someone to have a disagreement on something like the Bricked-Blaster-HAVs of Chromosome and still respect having opposite positions because of the nuances. Yet in the past you have been able to prove it is possible. Come back to the light side O'Dell we have fresh baked brownies. Let's go and talk about map design ideas in relation to infantry/vehicle dynamics or changes that might bring a greater value to using small turrets. Anything is better than this. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.01.19 06:15:00 - [67] - Quote Alpha 443-6732 wrote: NK Scout wrote: Xender17 wrote: NK Scout wrote: Atiim wrote: Immunity to all but 3 Weapons and 2 pieces of Equpment 16,000 ehP Ability to go 30km/h A Hardener to grant theretical immunity to attacks Ability to repair through attacks The power of 2-3 people Enough ammo to last entire games without re-supplying. Ability to recall Dropsuit without a supply depot Ability to bail out of dropsuit Tiercided and Techicided suits/modules. Once all of these requirements are met, then you can place a hard cap on the amount of infantry on the field. "The Power of Three" Sound familiar? DOCTOR WHO!!!!!!!!!!! Doctor who cares?
Phazoid The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 233	Posted - 2014.01.19 06:38:00 - [68] - Quote NO Dragons don't have friends. The nearest we can get to the idea is an enemy who is still alive.
AP Grasshopper The Unit 514 157	Posted - 2014.01.19 06:56:00 - [69] - Quote You guys have reluctantly ignored my updated bullet post in favor of the one I made an error on because I was trying to respond to 10 bullets Atiim made in his.... jesus read the pages from front to back... left to right...
AP Grasshopper The Unit 514 157	Posted - 2014.01.19 07:01:00 - [70] - Quote I guess it never actually edited my post when I re-posted it... this is almost entirely nonsense and nonconstructive anyways.

AP Grasshopper The Unit 514 157	Posted - 2014.01.19 07:02:00 - [71] - Quote I am tickled that someone thought I said I run an ammo extension on a madrugar though... Or do I???
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3657	Posted - 2014.01.19 07:03:00 - [72] - Quote AP Grasshopper wrote: You guys have reluctantly ignored my updated bullet post in favor of the one I made an error on because I was trying to respond to 10 bullets Atiim made in his.... jesus read the pages from front to back... left to right... I didn't even notice that you edited the bullets. My apologizes. I'll take a second look. Kill 1 and 7 more come right back. Makes you wonder if tankers are like zombies. Although, that would explain a lot.
AP Grasshopper The Unit 514 157	Posted - 2014.01.19 07:15:00 - [73] - Quote Atiim wrote: AP Grasshopper wrote: You guys have reluctantly ignored my updated bullet post in favor of the one I made an error on because I was trying to respond to 10 bullets Atiim made in his.... jesus read the pages from front to back... left to right... I didn't even notice that you edited the bullets. My apologizes. I'll take a second look. Looking back at it I don't think half of what I said made sense anyways lul. Lets just all hold hands on the top of the "Ring" tower thingy and sing kumbaya. Dropship service provided to you by....


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