DUST Search - What does not make since

Dagger-Two wrote:

calvin b wrote:

What does not make since to me. This is not a QQ or rage thread it is I cant believe they think this should be a reality in this game thread.

What does not make since.... The fact that Nova Knifes can cut through multiple layers of armor plating and be the length of a butter knife Roll

What does not make since..... The fact the laser rifle works backwards, that the further the target is from you the more damage you do but the closer they are the weaker the beam is Roll

What does not make since.... The fact that we are in the future and we are still using Shotguns, assault rifles, or any other weapon that uses gun powder Roll

What does not make since.... The fact our tanks still use tracks Roll

Ok I have given some examples what are yours????????

Nova knives seem fairly long (8" blade ish? maybe) 8" is enough to reach the spine from the front. Reduce that number by 1 or 2 from the armour, that's still 6" into the body, easily to cause severe damage to any organ.

The current 'shotgun' and 'assault rifle' (hopefully renamed to plasma rifle soon) are both plasma weapons. Both take lead 'charges' (lead attached to a special fuse which converts the solid to a plasma) and fire plasma bolts.

The shotgun doesn't really make all that much sense considering it's loading animation vs the 'pellets fired' (would make more sense if it fired a cone of plasma instead).

The plasma rifle take the lead plasma, compresses it into a bolt in a cyclotron, then fires it at tremendous velocity via electromagnetic rails (similar to a railgun). The bolt is held together in a magnetic 'bottle', a field that keeps the plasma together for a very very short time, which is why plasma weapons have very short ranges. When the bolt impacts an object, the magnetic field collapses at the contact point and the plasma is vented through.

Gunpowder weapons are still very effective in the future, especially since the materials used have evolved drastically. More powerful propellants and lighter weight materials, better recoil dampening, very advanced projectile design and composition, etc. Plus they have the advantage of being mechanical, therefore immune to electronic interference, and reliable / easy to maintain.

And why wouldn't tanks use tracks? Tracks are great.

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calvin b Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 1377	Posted - 2014.01.17 01:55:00 - [1] - Quote What does not make since to me. This is not a QQ or rage thread it is I cant believe they think this should be a reality in this game thread. What does not make since.... The fact that Nova Knifes can cut through multiple layers of armor plating and be the length of a butter knife What does not make since..... The fact the laser rifle works backwards, that the further the target is from you the more damage you do but the closer they are the weaker the beam is What does not make since.... The fact that we are in the future and we are still using Shotguns, assault rifles, or any other weapon that uses gun powder What does not make since.... The fact our tanks still use tracks Ok I have given some examples what are yours???????? TANK514 another sign of cancer in the game
Chesyre Armundsen Thanes Of Dust 372	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:01:00 - [2] - Quote Actually I believe the shotgun and assault riffle are a plasma/gas propellant weapons. Also I believe the word you're looking for is "sense" instead of "since". You're welcome. Mihi gravato Deus - "Let God lay the burden on me!"
Oswald Rehnquist 1100	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:01:00 - [3] - Quote Since = time reference Sense - cognition / logical calvin b wrote: What does not make since to me. This is not a QQ or rage thread it is I cant believe they think this should be a reality in this game thread. They should strive for it if they can calvin b wrote: What does not make since.... The fact that Nova Knifes can cut through multiple layers of armor plating and be the length of a butter knife I agree calvin b wrote: What does not make since..... The fact the laser rifle works backwards, that the further the target is from you the more damage you do but the closer they are the weaker the beam is its not backwards, there is an optimal distance if the function is similar to a magnifying glass. calvin b wrote: What does not make since.... The fact that we are in the future and we are still using Shotguns, assault rifles, or any other weapon that uses gun powder they don't use gunpowder, but I agree what it is a bit of ww2 in space calvin b wrote: What does not make since.... The fact our tanks still use tracks Not sure if I agree with this one, the speeders obviously hover, so it might be a weight issue, which is something I can understand Below 28 dB
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1136	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:19:00 - [4] - Quote SENSE the word you are looking for is sense. "this puzzle makes no sense" "I haven't been this poor since the great depression" "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout. CLOSED BETA VET
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 143	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:26:00 - [5] - Quote What does not make since to me. This is not a QQ or rage thread it is I cant believe they think this should be a reality in this game thread. What does not make since.... The OP But in seriousness, it doesn't make sense how CCP can have such an awesome resource as the experience they've gained in making EVE and throw it out the window. How often do the DUST guys collaborate with the EVE guys on issues on integration when they're offices are about as physically distant as possible on this Earth? How could the DUST guys pass up on the opportunity to use tried and true mechanics from eve (such as unique racial versions of different in game objects)? DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Oswald Rehnquist 1102	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:31:00 - [6] - Quote I also forgot to address your base question, so my apologies on that 1) Why do we carry two nova knives? Piercing is more effective than slashing when using a knife, which piercing is much more difficult with two knives. 2) The idea the 4 factions reward everybody the same regardless of performance 3) The idea that dust players can be mercs despite the fact that we were created by the 4 factions which should of been able to control our clone supply, thus making us dependent 4) Attacking our individual clones vs attacking the storage facilities of our clones Below 28 dB
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1823	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:34:00 - [7] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: 4) Attacking our individual clones vs attacking the storage facilities of our clones The MCC which directs the clones to the MCC itself, Droplinks and CRUs? We do attack the sources of the clones, it is the MCC. Closed Beta Vet Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
Oswald Rehnquist 1102	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:39:00 - [8] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: 4) Attacking our individual clones vs attacking the storage facilities of our clones The MCC which directs the clones to the MCC itself, Droplinks and CRUs? We do attack the sources of the clones, it is the MCC. I mean the production facilities that are aligned with a particular faction in general which produce the bodies which we bring to the MCC (or for EVE pilots) Essentially similar to how WW2 attacks were made on industrial cities, the MCC is just a transport of military supplies, I'm talking about hitting the source. Below 28 dB
Rusty Shallows 811	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:39:00 - [9] - Quote calvin b wrote: What does not make sense.... The fact that Nova Knifes can cut through multiple layers of armor plating and be the length of a butter knife Agreed! Devs make Nova Knives into Lightsabers NOW! MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 522	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:41:00 - [10] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Not sure if I agree with this one, the speeders obviously hover, so it might be a weight issue, which is something I can understand Eve doesnt use newtonian physics, hell HAV could drive on barrels of ******* and it would make sense in this universe, tank treads is just a lack of imagination in the designs, hell the speed they go at they should all be hover tanks anyways.

3Dollars Too Short Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 19	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:43:00 - [11] - Quote Lightsabers...Im down with that!!
Dagger-Two Gespenster Kompanie 204	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:44:00 - [12] - Quote calvin b wrote: What does not make since to me. This is not a QQ or rage thread it is I cant believe they think this should be a reality in this game thread. What does not make since.... The fact that Nova Knifes can cut through multiple layers of armor plating and be the length of a butter knife What does not make since..... The fact the laser rifle works backwards, that the further the target is from you the more damage you do but the closer they are the weaker the beam is What does not make since.... The fact that we are in the future and we are still using Shotguns, assault rifles, or any other weapon that uses gun powder What does not make since.... The fact our tanks still use tracks Ok I have given some examples what are yours???????? Nova knives seem fairly long (8" blade ish? maybe) 8" is enough to reach the spine from the front. Reduce that number by 1 or 2 from the armour, that's still 6" into the body, easily to cause severe damage to any organ. The current 'shotgun' and 'assault rifle' (hopefully renamed to plasma rifle soon) are both plasma weapons. Both take lead 'charges' (lead attached to a special fuse which converts the solid to a plasma) and fire plasma bolts. The shotgun doesn't really make all that much sense considering it's loading animation vs the 'pellets fired' (would make more sense if it fired a cone of plasma instead). The plasma rifle take the lead plasma, compresses it into a bolt in a cyclotron, then fires it at tremendous velocity via electromagnetic rails (similar to a railgun). The bolt is held together in a magnetic 'bottle', a field that keeps the plasma together for a very very short time, which is why plasma weapons have very short ranges. When the bolt impacts an object, the magnetic field collapses at the contact point and the plasma is vented through. Gunpowder weapons are still very effective in the future, especially since the materials used have evolved drastically. More powerful propellants and lighter weight materials, better recoil dampening, very advanced projectile design and composition, etc. Plus they have the advantage of being mechanical, therefore immune to electronic interference, and reliable / easy to maintain. And why wouldn't tanks use tracks? Tracks are great. Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc League of Infamy 691	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:48:00 - [13] - Quote calvin b wrote: What does not make since to me. This is not a QQ or rage thread it is I cant believe they think this should be a reality in this game thread. What does not make since.... The fact that Nova Knifes can cut through multiple layers of armor plating and be the length of a butter knife What does not make since..... The fact the laser rifle works backwards, that the further the target is from you the more damage you do but the closer they are the weaker the beam is What does not make since.... The fact that we are in the future and we are still using Shotguns, assault rifles, or any other weapon that uses gun powder What does not make since.... The fact our tanks still use tracks Ok I have given some examples what are yours???????? 1: Nova Knifes are really plasma blades. Think light sabre but tiny.... but it's plasma instead of an actual laser. 2: Never understood that either, as well as the fact that it drops off after only 10m 3: shotties, and every weapon other the CR and SMG, HMG, and MD isn't using gunpower. Even then, the gunpower is probably more advanced than what we use toda, and the bullets are tipped with tritanium, and that's very explosive. Think bullet with a stick of TNT at the end. 4: We're only 8000 years in the future. Yes, we have hover cars, but hover tech isn't very good compared to the tracks. Very unreliable. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^
Green Living 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1151	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:48:00 - [14] - Quote Food goes in, poop comes out. You can't explain that.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5819	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:49:00 - [15] - Quote Dagger-Two wrote: calvin b wrote: What does not make since to me. This is not a QQ or rage thread it is I cant believe they think this should be a reality in this game thread. What does not make since.... The fact that Nova Knifes can cut through multiple layers of armor plating and be the length of a butter knife What does not make since..... The fact the laser rifle works backwards, that the further the target is from you the more damage you do but the closer they are the weaker the beam is What does not make since.... The fact that we are in the future and we are still using Shotguns, assault rifles, or any other weapon that uses gun powder What does not make since.... The fact our tanks still use tracks Ok I have given some examples what are yours???????? Nova knives seem fairly long (8" blade ish? maybe) 8" is enough to reach the spine from the front. Reduce that number by 1 or 2 from the armour, that's still 6" into the body, easily to cause severe damage to any organ. The current 'shotgun' and 'assault rifle' (hopefully renamed to plasma rifle soon) are both plasma weapons. Both take lead 'charges' (lead attached to a special fuse which converts the solid to a plasma) and fire plasma bolts. The shotgun doesn't really make all that much sense considering it's loading animation vs the 'pellets fired' (would make more sense if it fired a cone of plasma instead). The plasma rifle take the lead plasma, compresses it into a bolt in a cyclotron, then fires it at tremendous velocity via electromagnetic rails (similar to a railgun). The bolt is held together in a magnetic 'bottle', a field that keeps the plasma together for a very very short time, which is why plasma weapons have very short ranges. When the bolt impacts an object, the magnetic field collapses at the contact point and the plasma is vented through. Gunpowder weapons are still very effective in the future, especially since the materials used have evolved drastically. More powerful propellants and lighter weight materials, better recoil dampening, very advanced projectile design and composition, etc. Plus they have the advantage of being mechanical, therefore immune to electronic interference, and reliable / easy to maintain. And why wouldn't tanks use tracks? Tracks are great. Tracks are great *CCP Wolfman hearing True Adamance, a known Amarr HAV groupie, say this and redesigns the Amarr HAV to be the grav tank of Dust 514...... "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 523	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:50:00 - [16] - Quote tracks are great until they get busted and the tank is ******, ah thank god new eden doesnt allow that kinda thing. HAV should be rolling on massive orbs like dominion tank police, makes more sense and would look bad ass.
Billi Gene 443	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:53:00 - [17] - Quote what does not make sense to me, is why the number of uplinks and nanohives present within a complex causes my merc to lose his mind...... suddenly time seems to slow down and he is hit with sudden and unpredictable blackouts, enemies seems to teleport to and fro and my aim seems to be 45 degrees to the left..... what doesnt make sense to me?... shields near the ground.... do shields only mitigate high velocity/momentum ala Dune (Frank Herbert) shields ... which would make sense... and explain knova knives.... but if this isnt the case then shooting a merc in the feet should bypass the shields!! Obodiah Garro wrote: tracks are great until they get busted and the tank is ******, ah thank god new eden doesnt allow that kinda thing. HAV should be rolling on massive orbs like dominion tank police, makes more sense and would look bad ass. ^^^^ until the anti-grav orbs get shot.... Pedant, Ape, Troll. My Beard makes Alpha's sook :P
Oswald Rehnquist 1102	Posted - 2014.01.17 02:56:00 - [18] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Not sure if I agree with this one, the speeders obviously hover, so it might be a weight issue, which is something I can understand Eve doesnt use newtonian physics, hell HAV could drive on barrels of ******* and it would make sense in this universe, tank treads is just a lack of imagination in the designs, hell the speed they go at they should all be hover tanks anyways. I know EVE spaceships use submarine logic (which contradicts our current understanding of space flight), thus track tanks might just be shortcuts to game design, but the idea that weight/energy can effect function is not totally outside the realm of possibilities here. Similar to how scaling down real world rail tech is currently difficult without it wearing out to fast, hover technology might have weight/power efficiency problems to where its just more reliable to have tracks. Not life or death just stating that there could be a potential feasible limitation, but you are probably right. Below 28 dB
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 523	Posted - 2014.01.17 03:04:00 - [19] - Quote Billi Gene wrote: ^^^^ until the anti-grav orbs get shot.... Nae man they are just solid spheres integrated into the hulls via mag lock, thus they are independently multi directional, and with the bullshiat spin of new eden you could say they are made of some nigh unbreakable polymer material. Especially a plot armor excuse on why the hull needs to get destroyed. Tank treads in the same universe as titans? thats some lazy horse ****.
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 158	Posted - 2014.01.17 03:28:00 - [20] - Quote Nova knives look as long as ones forearm and can be charged with a field. So it is a butter knife and your suit is the butter. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.

Lorhak Gannarsein 1219	Posted - 2014.01.17 04:11:00 - [21] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: Billi Gene wrote: ^^^^ until the anti-grav orbs get shot.... Nae man they are just solid spheres integrated into the hulls via mag lock, thus they are independently multi directional, and with the bullshiat spin of new eden you could say they are made of some nigh unbreakable polymer material. Especially a plot armor excuse on why the hull needs to get destroyed. Tank treads in the same universe as titans? thats some lazy horse ****. http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f11/anything-tank-police-tank-dominion_creations_49.png-139704d1359311348[ hmm this is what am talkin about Amarr HAV CCP DO IT NAO PRO tanker and proud.
Serimos Haeraven The Exemplars Top Men. 603	Posted - 2014.01.17 04:18:00 - [22] - Quote What doesn't make sense is that fact that CCP showed a fully operable gallente fighter jet 4 years ago in their first few gameplay videos for Dust, and we have NEVER seen another image of that fighter ever again... What doesn't make sense is that they also showed a warbarge with not only a working holographic map, but a war-room where you can view trophies and hologram versions of vehicles you currently own, this was also used in their propaganda gameplay footage from 4 years ago. What doesn't make sense is that CCP practically wiped a lot of its members working on Dust after the "uprising debacle", and with this new staff in place, they have re-created OP tank issues that were present in chromosome.
KIRSTY j The Walking Targets 45	Posted - 2014.01.17 10:58:00 - [23] - Quote what doesn't make sense it that players get paid for sitting in the MCC.
hidden noob Algintal Core Gallente Federation 27	Posted - 2014.01.17 11:00:00 - [24] - Quote laser makes perfect sense. at a certain range the beam is focused. beyound that range or before it. it isnt,
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1453	Posted - 2014.01.17 11:00:00 - [25] - Quote calvin b wrote: What does not make since to me. This is not a QQ or rage thread it is I cant believe they think this should be a reality in this game thread. What does not make sense.... The fact that Nova Knifes can cut through multiple layers of armor plating and be the length of a butter knife What does not make sense..... The fact the laser rifle works backwards, that the further the target is from you the more damage you do but the closer they are the weaker the beam is What does not make sense.... The fact that we are in the future and we are still using Shotguns, assault rifles, or any other weapon that uses gun powder What does not make sense.... The fact our tanks still use tracks Ok I have given some examples what are yours???????? Edit: Just started a new college class and my brain is fried, excuse me for I misused a word. The correct word I was meant to write is sense. The thing that doesnt make sense and ticks me off the most is killing a guy and he can still set of his remote explosives while being dead. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 215	Posted - 2014.01.17 11:33:00 - [26] - Quote calvin b wrote: What does not make since to me. This is not a QQ or rage thread it is I cant believe they think this should be a reality in this game thread. What does not make sense.... The fact that Nova Knifes can cut through multiple layers of armor plating and be the length of a butter knife What does not make sense..... The fact the laser rifle works backwards, that the further the target is from you the more damage you do but the closer they are the weaker the beam is What does not make sense.... The fact that we are in the future and we are still using Shotguns, assault rifles, or any other weapon that uses gun powder What does not make sense.... The fact our tanks still use tracks Ok I have given some examples what are yours???????? Edit: Just started a new college class and my brain is fried, excuse me for I misused a word. The correct word I was meant to write is sense. Nova knives are a good 8 inches long. As for laser rifles maybe you never torched ants with a magnifying glass as a kid or maybe you're just dumb but there's a simple thing called beam coherency. 'Assault rifle' and 'shotgun' are colloquial terms for 'plasma bolt gun' (its mean operating temperatures can sear flesh off the bone and it doesn't have crap on the scr or LR in terms of feedback) and 'plasma shrapnel flamethrower' (that armature on the 'shotgun' is designed to prevent it from either ripping your arm off with the kick or flying out of your hands and exploding because you couldn't flush the cyclotron with coolant manually). The minmatar use 'conventional' weapons but they're mostly gyro jets with high explosive warheads or in some cases phased plasma or nuclear tips, but they follow a pretty strict policy of 'keep it simple stupid' in fact they're rather widely regarded in setting for being able to use rather primitive means to great ends - ie starships from scrap metal and duct tape with a few solar panels, or functioning guns from relatively little. Tracked tanks? Easier to fix **** if things go wrong than complex hover systems.
Scar Scrilla Cobra Kommando 31	Posted - 2014.01.17 12:00:00 - [27] - Quote What doesn't make sense is.... 1....that I can't run up steep hills in my super-hi-tech dropsuit. Let alone jumping over ledges the size of a pile of dogshit sometimes... 2. ...that my super futuristic LAV (Ishukone Watch Saga) seems to have the horepowers of a funpark scooter. Aren't these jeep-like vehicles supposed to drive on rocky terrain? Top speed is ridiculous too. It takes ages to drive up a steep hill. And no I don't use a afterburner. I don't do in real life and can drive up steep hills with an SUV with no trouble at all. 3....that i can't drop OBs when running solo without opening a squad first. What's the reason for this? What a dystopic future... "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" Scar Scrilla-Dedicated Commando User CEO & Cobra Kommander
Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 82	Posted - 2014.01.17 12:12:00 - [28] - Quote calvin b wrote: What does not make since to me. This is not a QQ or rage thread it is I cant believe they think this should be a reality in this game thread. What does not make sense.... The fact that Nova Knifes can cut through multiple layers of armor plating and be the length of a butter knife 2 words. Light saber. What does not make sense..... The fact the laser rifle works backwards, that the further the target is from you the more damage you do but the closer they are the weaker the beam is plausible What does not make sense.... The fact that we are in the future and we are still using Shotguns, assault rifles, or any other weapon that uses gun powder read item descriptions. What does not make sense.... The fact our tanks still use tracks the last thing that we need in this game is tanks that fkn fly. Ok I have given some examples what are yours???????? Edit: Just started a new college class and my brain is fried, excuse me for I misused a word. The correct word I was meant to write is sense. Unofficial D.A.R.K.L.E.G.I.O.N team mascot.
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1049	Posted - 2014.01.17 12:16:00 - [29] - Quote Nanohives, drop uplinks, supply depots, CRUs. Any situation where stuff appears out of nowhere. Nanohives should be replaced with resupply beacons; after you drop one a high altitude dropship (too high to be seen) drops an ammo crate into the beacon. You then have to actively access the crate (like a short hack) at which point you get a full ammo top up. Drop uplinks should be beacons as well: you drop onto them like you drop out of the MCC. Supply depots should be accessed in the same way as nanohives for ammo. If you want to change suits you should "enter" the depot, and changing suit should take a few seconds. You should spawn inside CRUs, and exit through a door. If the door is camped, or there is another player blocking it, tough. And yes, I realise that this means that hives and uplinks will only work outdoors. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4341	Posted - 2014.01.17 12:29:00 - [30] - Quote calvin b wrote: What does not make sense.... The fact that Nova Knifes can cut through multiple layers of armor plating and be the length of a butter knife It's a plasma-coated blade that cuts using the heat of the plasma, not the blade itself. It's reasonable for it to cut deeper than the length of the physical blade. Not to mention the advanced armour layers aren't necessarily all that thick individually. Quote: What does not make sense..... The fact the laser rifle works backwards, that the further the target is from you the more damage you do but the closer they are the weaker the beam is Lasers use a lens to focus the beam down to a point, much like how you can use a magnifying glass to focus sunlight onto a piece of paper and set it on fire. The closer you are to that focal point, the more damaging the beam will be, and at any range shorter OR longer than the focus distance, the heat produced - and therefore the damage dealt - will be reduced. Quote: What does not make sense.... The fact that we are in the future and we are still using Shotguns, assault rifles, or any other weapon that uses gun powder Gallente Assault Rifle and Shotgun don't use gunpowder, they're plasma-based weapons. Caldari have a Rail Rifle, and even the "low-tech" Minmatar weapon uses more advanced explosive technology than modern gunpowder. Quote: What does not make sense.... The fact our tanks still use tracks There's a reason modern tanks are still on tracks. They provide efficient movement over a wide variety of terrain types while also remaining highly durable against enemy attacks. What doesn't make sense to me is that HAVs with tracks can move significantly faster than a wheeled LAV.



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