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Outer Raven
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.14 22:42:00 -
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So since according the CCP Remnant, it would seem that scouts namely GA, AM, CA are going to have no side arm. Will the current Gallente scouts that are probably skilled into several side arms get a small respec to correlate with the removal of a slot, similar to what happened with vehicles.
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Anoko Destrolock
Crimson Saints
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Posted - 2014.01.14 23:09:00 -
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Outer Raven wrote:So since according the CCP Remnant, it would seem that scouts namely GA, AM, CA are going to have no side arm. Will the current Gallente scouts that are probably skilled into several side arms get a small respec to correlate with the removal of a slot, similar to what happened with vehicles.
If CCP doesnt give a respec for dropsuits, dropsuit upgrades AND weaponry, theyll enrage every dust player and the game will be horrible while everyone plays a role they have no interest in. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
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Posted - 2014.01.14 23:19:00 -
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Anoko Destrolock wrote:Outer Raven wrote:So since according the CCP Remnant, it would seem that scouts namely GA, AM, CA are going to have no side arm. Will the current Gallente scouts that are probably skilled into several side arms get a small respec to correlate with the removal of a slot, similar to what happened with vehicles. If CCP doesnt give a respec for dropsuits, dropsuit upgrades AND weaponry, theyll enrage every dust player and the game will be horrible while everyone plays a role they have no interest in.
I won't give a damn.
Your argument is now invalid
We used to have a time machine
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1502
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Posted - 2014.01.14 23:20:00 -
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But really he's right. Any skills that were not respecced in 1.7 will be done when all the racial variants are out.
1.8 Analysis - Sentinel Damage Efficiency Calcs
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R F Gyro
Clones 4u
1047
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Posted - 2014.01.14 23:20:00 -
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How would CCP know who the scouts are?
RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
274
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Posted - 2014.01.14 23:22:00 -
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^ thinker
The biggest threat to my scout is everything.
My scout is the biggest threat to everything.
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
TheLostLegion
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Posted - 2014.01.14 23:23:00 -
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I'd worry about your existing scout suit BPOs potentially being removed.
I can has ISK
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.01.14 23:30:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I'd worry about your existing scout suit BPOs potentially being removed.
Wait until 1.9 when they remove the cloaks.
I got my hand around the pistol grip, and the safety's off.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
8071
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Posted - 2014.01.14 23:31:00 -
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Infantry in general will likely get a respec considering the scope of the changes coming.
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Outer Raven
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Public Disorder.
111
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Posted - 2014.01.15 00:03:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Infantry in general will likely get a respec considering the scope of the changes coming.
Probably, but sidearns are a weapons issue and considering in the 1.8 patch it will be about infantry "in this case scouts losing their side arm" I can't see them doing a blanket weapons respec as well.
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Tch Tch
Red Shirts Away Team
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Posted - 2014.01.15 00:29:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:How would CCP know who the scouts are?
I don't know.
Maybe the time spent in scout suits that they post at the end of the game in the battle report might be recorded.
Or
The amount of SP in the scout dropsuit skill might be an indicator.
Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1569
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Posted - 2014.01.15 00:54:00 -
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Outer Raven wrote:So since according the CCP Remnant, it would seem that scouts namely GA, AM, CA are going to have no side arm. Will the current Gallente scouts that are probably skilled into several side arms get a small respec to correlate with the removal of a slot, similar to what happened with vehicles.
Even though there is no confirmation I am about 90% sure there will be a drop suit respect, including weapons. The changes of drop suits affect every skill related to dropsuits. |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
379
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Posted - 2014.01.15 00:56:00 -
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Outer Raven wrote:So since according the CCP Remnant, it would seem that scouts namely GA, AM, CA are going to have no side arm. Will the current Gallente scouts that are probably skilled into several side arms get a small respec to correlate with the removal of a slot, similar to what happened with vehicles.
link or it didnt happen
Proud Christian
one of the most essential parts of eve is left out of dust: freedom, exploration, open-world gameplay.
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Scout Registry
522
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Posted - 2014.01.15 01:56:00 -
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Better Idea!
How 'bout CCP simply not bone us in the first place!?
scouts say no to quid pro quo
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Amarrgheddon
Warcaste
87
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Posted - 2014.01.15 02:03:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I'd worry about your existing scout suit BPOs potentially being removed.
they should be safe. I bought those from Sony. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
812
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Posted - 2014.01.15 02:10:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Infantry in general will likely get a respec considering the scope of the changes coming.
So you are confirming then?
Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
466
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Posted - 2014.01.15 02:13:00 -
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Outer Raven wrote:So since according the CCP Remnant, it would seem that scouts namely GA, AM, CA are going to have no side arm. Will the current Gallente scouts that are probably skilled into several side arms get a small respec to correlate with the removal of a slot, similar to what happened with vehicles.
That's not similar in the least. Vehicles got their entire trees messed over.
Entire module classes were removed.
Sidearms are still going to exist unaffected.
Nothing about sidearms was changed, just who can equip them. If anything was going to be refunded, it would be scout suit exp only.
Sidearms have a 0% chance of being touched for respecs in that manner.
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
Unless you are skimming
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JP Acuna
EATMOD
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Posted - 2014.01.15 02:19:00 -
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Is there any reliable source where i can see all this info about new variants and bonuses everyone is talking about?
I haven't seen any official stuff or dev comments. |
Scout Registry
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Posted - 2014.01.15 02:21:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:
Sidearms have a 0% chance of being touched for respecs in that manner.
I have a 0% chance of standing by idly while non-Scouts debate how to further screw the Scout Community.
scouts say no to quid pro quo
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
1241
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Posted - 2014.01.15 02:22:00 -
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JP Acuna wrote:Is there any reliable source where i can see all this info about new variants and bonuses everyone is talking about?
I haven't seen any official stuff or dev comments.
Here for information from CCP's test server
Here for dev posts about scouts
Scout Roles: M-Speedy Anarchist | C-Chaos Weaver | G-Stealth Recon | A-Endurance Hunter
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Outer Raven
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Public Disorder.
111
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Posted - 2014.01.15 04:11:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:JP Acuna wrote:Is there any reliable source where i can see all this info about new variants and bonuses everyone is talking about?
I haven't seen any official stuff or dev comments. Here for information from CCP's test server Here for dev posts about scouts
Page 7 of the dev post link is where he starts talking about scout losing their sidearms for the extra EQ slot.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.15 04:19:00 -
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Outer Raven wrote:So since according the CCP Remnant, it would seem that scouts namely GA, AM, CA are going to have no side arm. Will the current Gallente scouts that are probably skilled into several side arms get a small respec to correlate with the removal of a slot, similar to what happened with vehicles.
At the least there should be a dropsuit respec. That will be their excuse.
No.
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GET ATMESON
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
230
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Posted - 2014.01.15 04:31:00 -
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Outer Raven wrote:So since according the CCP Remnant, it would seem that scouts namely GA, AM, CA are going to have no side arm. Will the current Gallente scouts that are probably skilled into several side arms get a small respec to correlate with the removal of a slot, similar to what happened with vehicles.
You know posting this people will flood forums with a HOLE dropsuit and weapons repsec.
Open Beta Fed 16th 2013. Scout fix + Heavy suits + Heavy guns = soonGäó
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Outer Raven
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Public Disorder.
111
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Posted - 2014.01.15 04:34:00 -
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GET ATMESON wrote:Outer Raven wrote:So since according the CCP Remnant, it would seem that scouts namely GA, AM, CA are going to have no side arm. Will the current Gallente scouts that are probably skilled into several side arms get a small respec to correlate with the removal of a slot, similar to what happened with vehicles. You know posting this people will flood forums with a HOLE dropsuit and weapons repsec.
Your right its already happened....."sighs"
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Ivy Zalinto
Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd
248
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Posted - 2014.01.15 04:38:00 -
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Tch Tch wrote:R F Gyro wrote:How would CCP know who the scouts are? I don't know. Maybe the time spent in scout suits that they post at the end of the game in the battle report might be recorded. Or The amount of SP in the scout dropsuit skill might be an indicator.
If they do it, it would just be a respec for the sidearm skills to repurpose...which I would like honestly...get my three points from knives and 2 from smg back and shove it all back into pistols.
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
Scout instructor; Learning Coalition
Scrambler Pistol dedication
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R F Gyro
Clones 4u
1049
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Posted - 2014.01.15 08:29:00 -
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Tch Tch wrote:R F Gyro wrote:How would CCP know who the scouts are? I don't know. Maybe the time spent in scout suits that they post at the end of the game in the battle report might be recorded. Or The amount of SP in the scout dropsuit skill might be an indicator.
Time & SP thresholds lead to boundary arguments. If they say "anyone with more than 2m SP in scout suits gets a sidearm respec" then they'll have to deal with anger from players with only 1.5m.
Also, maybe it is better to think of it as a removal of the less flexible of one of the two weapons slots on the suit, rather than a sidearm removal. Scouts can still use sidearms in their light weapon slots remember.
So for scouts with a massive investment in sidearms, this is probably a light weapon removal.
RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
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Rogue Saint
Science For Death
676
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Posted - 2014.01.15 08:42:00 -
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I've always been vocal against respecs, except in the circumstance of all the racial suits being added.
I didn't make any unwise choices when spending my SP, but since so many suits are being added and some are getting serious game changing stat changes we will need a full infantry tree refund (Dropsuit Command, Upgrades and Weapons).
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
1051
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Posted - 2014.01.15 10:16:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Outer Raven wrote:So since according the CCP Remnant, it would seem that scouts namely GA, AM, CA are going to have no side arm. Will the current Gallente scouts that are probably skilled into several side arms get a small respec to correlate with the removal of a slot, similar to what happened with vehicles. That's not similar in the least. Vehicles got their entire trees messed over. Entire module classes were removed.
this does not matter. if you invested SP in tanks before you only should be able to reinvest the SP into tanks.
either everyone has to live with their decisions or no one, Mr Double Standards
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