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Supernus Gigas Star Giants 42	Posted - 2014.01.09 05:25:00 - [1] - Quote CLIPS AND MAGAZINES Now, I am not a gun snob, but I find it weird that every infantry weapon in this game is described as having a clip, when most weapons clearly have a magazine. Lemme lay it out for you guys. Guns with magazines Assault Rifle Scrambler Rifle Rail Rifle Combat Rifle Sniper Rifle Laser Rifle Scrambler Pistol Sub-Machine Gun Flaylock Pistol Forge Gun Heavy Machine Gun (Box Magazine/ Big Bucket O' Ammo) Swarm Launcher Mass Driver Plasma Cannon Shotgun (Internal Magazine) Guns with clips NONE Special Plasma Cannon (Single-Shot Cartridge) Nova Knives My Fist of Steel Well, as it turns out, every gun in the game uses a magazine except Nova Knives, the Plasma Cannon, and the sweet sting of my Heavy's fist. It's of course not the biggest problem in the game, heck, it's hardly even a problem, but CCP may want to think about replacing "clip" with "magazine" in the future. WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE SUCH TERRIBLE IDEAS ALL THE TIME?
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 463	Posted - 2014.01.09 05:30:00 - [2] - Quote Interesting fact, clips are used to fill magazines, and magazines are used to load firearms. Back in WWII, soldiers actually carried clips of ammo with them to fill their .magazines, because the magazine was built into the rifle. Modern rifles (and Dust rifles) have detachable magazines, thus soldiers do not carry clips around, and just carry extra magazines. TL;DR a clip puts rounds in a magazine, a magazine puts rounds in a weapon.
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 1883	Posted - 2014.01.09 05:39:00 - [3] - Quote A magazine can be anywhere ammunition is stored. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1010	Posted - 2014.01.09 05:44:00 - [4] - Quote Correction. It's nanohives that put rounds in these weapons. Lol. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 477	Posted - 2014.01.09 05:51:00 - [5] - Quote Technically correct. However when was the last time you heard someone ask to buy a spare magazine? I can honestly say i have never heard the term once.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2474	Posted - 2014.01.09 05:57:00 - [6] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Technically correct. However when was the last time you heard someone ask to buy a spare magazine? I can honestly say i have never heard the term once. 20 years in the reserves working with police and others interested in guns. I heard it all the time. On a side note. I wonder if the laser based weapons use batteries or some form of cartridges that fill a magazine. // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 477	Posted - 2014.01.09 06:00:00 - [7] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Thurak1 wrote: Technically correct. However when was the last time you heard someone ask to buy a spare magazine? I can honestly say i have never heard the term once. 20 years in the reserves working with police and others interested in guns. I heard it all the time. On a side note. I wonder if the laser based weapons use batteries or some form of cartridges that fill a magazine. Laser based weapons i would imagine use a cartridge of some type that holds a charge or charges. Not sure what medium is used to hold the charge because i cant imagine a actual battery maybe there is something that converts the heat from a stored plasma charge into energy that is used.
Supernus Gigas Star Giants 45	Posted - 2014.01.09 06:05:00 - [8] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Thurak1 wrote: Technically correct. However when was the last time you heard someone ask to buy a spare magazine? I can honestly say i have never heard the term once. 20 years in the reserves working with police and others interested in guns. I heard it all the time. On a side note. I wonder if the laser based weapons use batteries or some form of cartridges that fill a magazine. I wasn't too sure about the laser weapons, but since they look like magazines I just lumped them in with the rest of the magazine fed weapons. Although I imagine them to be more like Energy Weapons from Fallout, using Electron Charge Pack, Energy Cells, or Micro-fusion Cells, something like that. WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE SUCH TERRIBLE IDEAS ALL THE TIME?
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2475	Posted - 2014.01.09 06:07:00 - [9] - Quote I've thought that advanced laser weaponry could use fissionable material to make micro detonations and generate enough energy for a pulse. CCP has stated that our weapons are too dangerous for normal humans and those not protected by drop suits to use. So, nuclear bullets? // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 79	Posted - 2014.01.09 06:19:00 - [10] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Interesting fact, clips are used to fill magazines, and magazines are used to load firearms. Back in WWII, soldiers actually carried clips of ammo with them to fill their .magazines, because the magazine was built into the rifle. Modern rifles (and Dust rifles) have detachable magazines, thus soldiers do not carry clips around, and just carry extra magazines. TL;DR a clip puts rounds in a magazine, a magazine puts rounds in a weapon. Hence, it's magazine vs clip things is pointless, now they're one and the same. To put it in other words they used to sell cookies in stacks, so you could get a stack of cookies. Now they come stacked in a box, now people are insisting that one refers to them as a box of cookies. It's still a stack of cookies

Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 2617	Posted - 2014.01.09 06:19:00 - [11] - Quote Supernus Gigas wrote: Plasma Cannon (Single-Shot Cartridge) . That makes it a shell if I am not mistaken Do Not Feed The Imperfects. Feeding them may disrupt the natural setting.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 464	Posted - 2014.01.09 06:21:00 - [12] - Quote Plasma Cannon is on both lists. So is the Scrambler Pistol. The Pistol, also, uses a battery.
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2348	Posted - 2014.01.09 06:29:00 - [13] - Quote Its a shame CCP got lazy and used the same model/animation for the Rail Rifle as the Laser/Scrambler Rifle reload animations. As I understand it the Rail Rifle uses Magnetic Rail technology, which fires a projectile at ridiculously high speeds. So the magazine should look like it houses those projectiles instead of a battery..... Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Subdreddit Recruitment Video Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1261	Posted - 2014.01.09 07:31:00 - [14] - Quote Language however changes overtime. Clip is an acceptable civilian term for a magazine. Oh btw, in some nautical circles, they also sometimes call small arms magazines clips, simply because parts of a ship are called the magazine and it saves confusion. They also just use the term 'ammunition'. "We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1324	Posted - 2014.01.09 07:35:00 - [15] - Quote Actually, the revolving chamber of a mass driver would be referred to as a clip, and is the only weapon in the game that has a clip. "I'm done!" slams doorGÇª walks back in and sits down "I still enjoy the forums."
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 72	Posted - 2014.01.09 07:40:00 - [16] - Quote Magazine takes too long to type or say. Thus clip is better GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Rusty Shallows 724	Posted - 2014.01.09 07:47:00 - [17] - Quote In the strictest terms a Gun is a mounted weapon like on naval vessels although I'm willing to bet carriages count. Weapons under 50-caliber machine guns are handguns or weapons. General use of the word gun to encompass more weapons is a later half twentieth century change thanks to slang. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1507	Posted - 2014.01.09 08:47:00 - [18] - Quote I feel like only military would know this BC not many ammo manufacturers put rounds clips. For those of you who want a visual reference, the M1 Gararand "stripper clip"... Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1324	Posted - 2014.01.09 09:35:00 - [19] - Quote Marad''er wrote: Magazine takes too long to type or say. Thus clip is better Clip takes too long to type. Thus Mag is better. "I'm done!" slams doorGÇª walks back in and sits down "I still enjoy the forums."
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 641	Posted - 2014.01.09 09:59:00 - [20] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: I feel like only military would know this BC not many ammo manufacturers put rounds clips. For those of you who want a visual reference, the M1 Gararand "stripper clip"... This is another example ... the Lee-Enfield .303 with the picture showing it's 'fixed' magazine and the clip being loaded into it.

Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 465	Posted - 2014.01.09 10:11:00 - [21] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Interesting fact, clips are used to fill magazines, and magazines are used to load firearms. Back in WWII, soldiers actually carried clips of ammo with them to fill their .magazines, because the magazine was built into the rifle. Modern rifles (and Dust rifles) have detachable magazines, thus soldiers do not carry clips around, and just carry extra magazines. TL;DR a clip puts rounds in a magazine, a magazine puts rounds in a weapon. Hence, it's magazine vs clip things is pointless, now they're one and the same. To put it in other words they used to sell cookies in stacks, so you could get a stack of cookies. Now they come stacked in a box, now people are insisting that one refers to them as a box of cookies. It's still a stack of cookies They are not the same. The multiple stacks of cookies would be a box, and an individual stack of cookies would be a stack. But this analogy doesn't really fit clips and magazines very well. Any weapon that can hold multiple rounds at a time holds them in a magazine. Clips load ammo into magazines. WWII era rifles had magazines, just as modern rifles do today. the difference is on the old rifles is tat the magazine was built into the weapon itself, and nondetachable. Therefore troops would carry clips to load into the magazine, which would then feed into the chamber of the rifle. Nowadays, we can simply remove the magazine and place a fresh one in, so we don't carry clips on us anymore. We still use them, but only for loading our magazines prior to the mission, not during, as WWII era troops would. Here's a Wikipedia article on magazines for further information.
R F Gyro Clones 4u 911	Posted - 2014.01.09 10:26:00 - [22] - Quote Interesting thread, nice to read a bit about terminology and history. Arguing about clip vs. magazine in a game where we can create ammo by simply walking close to a small device dropped on the ground does seem a little strange though RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Argetlam Thorson Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder. 5	Posted - 2014.01.10 01:20:00 - [23] - Quote Just because people don't know the difference between clip and mag is not really an acceptable reason to say that they are currently interchangeable terms. They are completely different terms. OP is right. That being said, it's a small issue, one I'd like to see changed, but one I'm not overly worried about. So, CCP if you changed it, I'd be happy, but I'll play the game either way.
Artificer Ghost Bojo's School of the Trades 964	Posted - 2014.01.10 01:43:00 - [24] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: snip... ...and just carry extra magazines.\ Nope. Bullets are made of Nanites. Your dropsuit is basically a miniature nanite generator (With a limit, of course). If you do the math, the Sniper Rifle has something like 4.733333333333_ clips (Or some other ammunition-based term...). I can't remember the exact number and I'm not going to do it right now, but it came out as an irrational number last time I checked. I'm sure it's the same with other weapons as well. In short, you aren't carrying extra magazines. I can only assume that you "plug" the magazine into your dropsuit to refill it (to a limit) Nanohives basically refill these nanites. Or at least, that's the logic a player made up a while ago. There's no real explanation as to why some weapons have weird/irrational numbers when it comes to magazines/clips/whatever. ~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc League of Infamy 649	Posted - 2014.01.10 01:44:00 - [25] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Thurak1 wrote: Technically correct. However when was the last time you heard someone ask to buy a spare magazine? I can honestly say i have never heard the term once. 20 years in the reserves working with police and others interested in guns. I heard it all the time. On a side note. I wonder if the laser based weapons use batteries or some form of cartridges that fill a magazine. It's a battery "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc League of Infamy 649	Posted - 2014.01.10 01:47:00 - [26] - Quote Marad''er wrote: Magazine takes too long to type or say. Thus clip is better There's mag for a reason. Learn shorthand bro. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc League of Infamy 650	Posted - 2014.01.10 01:50:00 - [27] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Interesting thread, nice to read a bit about terminology and history. Arguing about clip vs. magazine in a game where we can create ammo by simply walking close to a small device dropped on the ground does seem a little strange though We do not magically make the stuff. minerals are placed into the nanohives, and micro drones make the ammo for you. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc League of Infamy 650	Posted - 2014.01.10 01:53:00 - [28] - Quote Artificer Ghost wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: snip... ...and just carry extra magazines.\ Nope. Bullets are made of Nanites. Your dropsuit is basically a miniature nanite generator (With a limit, of course). If you do the math, the Sniper Rifle has something like 4.733333333333_ clips (Or some other ammunition-based term...). I can't remember the exact number and I'm not going to do it right now, but it came out as an irrational number last time I checked. I'm sure it's the same with other weapons as well. In short, you aren't carrying extra magazines. I can only assume that you "plug" the magazine into your dropsuit to refill it (to a limit) Nanohives basically refill these nanites. Or at least, that's the logic a player made up a while ago. There's no real explanation as to why some weapons have weird/irrational numbers when it comes to magazines/clips/whatever. lolno. That's completely false. WE don't carry around nanites on us. the ammo that we carry around is pre-made and fitted into mags/batteries/drums/cylinders, and the nanites that are in nanohives build the ammo and mags from minerials stored inside of the nanohive. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^
P14GU3 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 502	Posted - 2014.01.10 02:14:00 - [29] - Quote You gun snobs do realise the only real difference between a clip and a magazine is a spring right?
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1817	Posted - 2014.01.10 02:28:00 - [30] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoSNHe413rY A lot of people have probably never even fired a gun in real life that play this game or know little about guns. Magazine is correct. These shotgun ranges? lol 10m IRL Slugs go for 140m+ and double 00 buckshot can go for 50m all using technology from before CCP was even a company. So about those vehicle locks...



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