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Alena Ventrallis
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Posted - 2014.01.09 05:30:00 -
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Interesting fact, clips are used to fill magazines, and magazines are used to load firearms. Back in WWII, soldiers actually carried clips of ammo with them to fill their .magazines, because the magazine was built into the rifle. Modern rifles (and Dust rifles) have detachable magazines, thus soldiers do not carry clips around, and just carry extra magazines.
TL;DR a clip puts rounds in a magazine, a magazine puts rounds in a weapon. |
Alena Ventrallis
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Posted - 2014.01.09 10:11:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Interesting fact, clips are used to fill magazines, and magazines are used to load firearms. Back in WWII, soldiers actually carried clips of ammo with them to fill their .magazines, because the magazine was built into the rifle. Modern rifles (and Dust rifles) have detachable magazines, thus soldiers do not carry clips around, and just carry extra magazines.
TL;DR a clip puts rounds in a magazine, a magazine puts rounds in a weapon. Hence, it's magazine vs clip things is pointless, now they're one and the same. To put it in other words they used to sell cookies in stacks, so you could get a stack of cookies. Now they come stacked in a box, now people are insisting that one refers to them as a box of cookies. It's still a stack of cookies
They are not the same. The multiple stacks of cookies would be a box, and an individual stack of cookies would be a stack. But this analogy doesn't really fit clips and magazines very well.
Any weapon that can hold multiple rounds at a time holds them in a magazine. Clips load ammo into magazines. WWII era rifles had magazines, just as modern rifles do today. the difference is on the old rifles is tat the magazine was built into the weapon itself, and nondetachable. Therefore troops would carry clips to load into the magazine, which would then feed into the chamber of the rifle. Nowadays, we can simply remove the magazine and place a fresh one in, so we don't carry clips on us anymore. We still use them, but only for loading our magazines prior to the mission, not during, as WWII era troops would.
Here's a Wikipedia article on magazines for further information. |
Alena Ventrallis
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Posted - 2014.01.10 05:05:00 -
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Scalesdini wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Scalesdini wrote:Nobody actually gives a damn, really. Lots of military and law enforcement people use magazine/mag and clip interchangeably as well as people who have never touched a gun before in their life and everybody in between. Getting buttmad about it on a video game makes you look like you desperately want people to think of you as a gun toting badass in real life. tl;dr - Deal with it.  Actually, if you refer to a standard 30 round magazine as a "clip" you are wrong. Those who do this around people who know the difference are laughed at. I'm sure there are people out there so desperate to feel superior to others that they laugh at them for using what has become essentially interchangeable terms in the firearms language lexicon. I don't know any of them personally but I've heard stories about them. If it helps you sleep at night, do what you feel. Just know that there are people laughing at you for laughing at others for calling a magazine a clip because it's the silliest thing in the world to be picky about.
Speaking as someone from the military, you don't just get made fun of for using bad terminology. You're punished for it. Scrubbing toilets with a toothbrush while reciting weapons knowledge over and over again makes one remember. |
Alena Ventrallis
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:06:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Supernus Gigas wrote:EDIT: Moved all Amarr guns to the "Special" category. CLIPS AND MAGAZINES Now, I am not a gun snob, but I find it weird that every infantry weapon in this game is described as having a clip, when most weapons clearly have a magazine. Lemme lay it out for you guys. Guns with magazines
- Assault Rifle
- Rail Rifle
- Combat Rifle
- Sniper Rifle
- Sub-Machine Gun
- Flaylock Pistol
- Forge Gun
- Heavy Machine Gun (Box Magazine/ Big Bucket O' Ammo)
- Swarm Launcher
- Mass Driver
- Plasma Cannon
- Shotgun (Internal Magazine)
Guns with clips
- NONE
Special
- Scrambler Rifle (Battery thingy)
- Laser Rifle (Battery thingy)
- Scrambler Pistol (Fuel Cell)
- Plasma Cannon (Single-Shot Cartridge)
- Nova Knives
- My Fist of Steel
Well, as it turns out, every gun in the game uses a magazine except Nova Knives, Plasma Cannon, Scrambler Rifle, Laser Rifle, Scrambler Pistol and the sweet sting of my Heavy's fist. It's of course not the biggest problem in the game, heck, it's hardly even a problem, but CCP may want to think about replacing "clip" with "magazine" in the future. Swarm Launchers have packs Shotguns have tubes Energy weapons have cells or batteries HMGs have Drums Mass Drivers have clips. Plasma Cannons have canisters.
shotguns have tubular magazines. They are built into the weapon, but it is still a magazine. |
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