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Scottie MaCallan
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.08 23:45:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Kahn Zo wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:I've been nerfed yeah.... I feel like I am being forced into a certain role.... (willy bullet sprayer) since "my" choice of "roles" are being nerfed little by little.  Exactly, it's destroying sand box It's like, now all scouts will need this piece of equipment. It's like scouts are being designed to NEED the cloak rather than just be able to support it. Scouts are losing profile reduction so every scout other than Gallente will NEED the cloak to keep up. Speculation with 87% Affirmative
EXACTLY. Making practically all of the role bonuses support cloaks means scouts are most likely going to get pidgeon-holed
into very few effective roles. The bonuses need to be more broad or scouts better see some very different stats ( which most likely won't happen). As is, it looks like we're going to get one min-maxed cloaky Scout, a couple copy cats of that class from people who choose the wrong race, then maybe a gal scout with damps and then the same niche-novelty minmatar knifers.
CCP, please support a greater variety of play, like, for example, right now I run a min scout w/ a shotgun and 1 damp (enough to Dodge all but the 15db scanners) and a code braker. With proposed changes I'd have to either switch to gal and pick up a useless (for me) cloak bonus as well as a speed nerf, not to mention a non-ideal armor tank for a quick close cqc role, or potentially go caldari and change how I play.
Like, why not bring back the profile bonus for the role and add racial bonuses that support cloak or biotics or hacking?
Instead of shoehorning class based equipment restrictions into your role bonus system, why not provide role based equipment restrictions and then a role bonus? My example is just one potential scout role you're nerfing in order to promote a single new role, there are many more |
pseudosnipre
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Posted - 2014.01.08 23:55:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:"...While integrated friction and impact dampening reduce the overal sound signature." What is up *****es! I knew there was a reason I thought it was sound. I've read that before.
Sonar footsteps...good job.
Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
1088
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Posted - 2014.01.09 00:02:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:"...While integrated friction and impact dampening reduce the overal sound signature."
What is up *****es!
I knew there was a reason I thought it was sound. I've read that before.
while the scout suit may decrease our sound signature...
Active Scanner wrote:Sending out a triggered pulse of high-frequency magnetometric waves and interpreting the results with an uplinked onboard computer, the Active Scanner gives ground units a snapshot of enemy positions. Projection nodes set at specific angles on the hand-held device, generate a vectored impulse capable of extracting objects from high-noise environments. Feedback from the pulse is filtered to reduce ambient clutter and pinpoint targets lacking IFF signals.
the Active Scanner does not use sound.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
847
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Posted - 2014.01.09 00:09:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:"...While integrated friction and impact dampening reduce the overal sound signature."
What is up *****es!
I knew there was a reason I thought it was sound. I've read that before. while the scout suit may decrease our sound signature... Active Scanner wrote:Sending out a triggered pulse of high-frequency magnetometric waves and interpreting the results with an uplinked onboard computer, the Active Scanner gives ground units a snapshot of enemy positions. Projection nodes set at specific angles on the hand-held device, generate a vectored impulse capable of extracting objects from high-noise environments. Feedback from the pulse is filtered to reduce ambient clutter and pinpoint targets lacking IFF signals. the Active Scanner does not use sound.
Well then they need to get their story strait.
Or
On board suit equipment could be using different tech.
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
343
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Posted - 2014.01.09 00:16:00 -
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Oi, Aero, you flyin' a Nestor in that screenshot, boy?
Amarr HAV Speculation
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
509
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Posted - 2014.01.09 00:46:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Just a random thought....if cloaks are equipment, does that mean the logi bonus applies? So logi's can effectively equip cloaks? And at the same time completely invalidate the scout role? Yup, this has been on the top of my mind ever since CCP said they were doing a scout fitting reduction months ago. Somewhere deep in these forums are jokes about invisible logis. It can't possibly be a piece of equipment, but they said it could be fitted on other suits with extreme sacrifice. I think it is a weapon slot. It wouldn't make sense (given the logistics bonus) to be an equipment piece unless Logi bonus ignored the cloak. I think it will be a non-lethal scrambler rifle, where there is a charge up time and heat. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/03/equipment-is-your-friend/That dev blog says it's an equipment. 
The Dev Blog came out almost a year ago and the only as saw from that was active scanners. Where is the shield bubble?
They could easily have changed their minds, especially considering the decision on logis and equipment bonus.
I wish they would give it to the grenade slot, then only scouts get the bonus and I don't have to deal with the terribly cumbersome equipment wheel. Plus it would be easy to fire with L2. Seeing no negatives to putting it in the nade slot.
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Aero Yassavi
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
4533
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Posted - 2014.01.09 00:48:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Oi, Aero, you flyin' a Nestor in that screenshot, boy?
Not my screenshot, it's jackbubu's
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
No, it's Super Amarr!
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Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
575
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:15:00 -
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Does the Crystal Ball say anything about pilot suits yet?
Dropship Specialist
Kills- Incubus: 4; Pythons: 1; Other DS: 28 Gêå1; Tanks: 27 Gêå2
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Aero Yassavi
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
4537
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:19:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Does the Crystal Ball say anything about pilot suits yet?
CCP is taking their time with vehicles and it doesn't really seem like the current state of vehicles is where they want it yet, so I wouldn't expect them to throw pilot suits in their next update.
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
No, it's Super Amarr!
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Kage Roth
Wolf-Monkey Bastards
89
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:25:00 -
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From what I read of the suit descriptions on Sisi firing your weapon will disrupt the cloak. From what the Caldari Scout says this will either cause it to cancel after a certain amount of time or drain some of the remaining time of the cloak.
We can also tell from the Amarr scout bonus that there is a cooldown time.
Setting aside the crystal ball, I really do hope the cloak is just visual and that Scout suits will still have to worry about radar and being scanned. This will make them have to choose between tank or speed mods and profile damps. |
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1168
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:31:00 -
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Kage Roth wrote:
Setting aside the crystal ball, I really do hope the cloak is just visual and that Scout suits will still have to worry about radar and being scanned. This will make them have to choose between tank or speed mods and profile damps.
That choice seems to be removedGǪ with no damp bonus (except for the Gal scout) and extremely limited slot layout the choice is essentially gone.
KRRROOOOOOM
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
1434
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:35:00 -
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feels so weird being in Jita with no one else.
GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride."
Hunter S. Thompson
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icdedppul
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
11
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:36:00 -
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you know I would like to say to wait and see how things are going to work as they seem to be making sweeping changes with this current future prediction
but in the end i think Ive given up and am just expecting to get a swift kick in the junk yet again |
THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
337
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:44:00 -
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Of course scouts will have to worry about being scanned still...other than Gallente, which will probably be my suit of choice if these end up manifesting in game.
Electronic Warfare GOD in the making
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Jotun Izalaru
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
17
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Posted - 2014.01.09 02:34:00 -
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Excellent, I need to be further punished for picking Minmatar scout, it isn't nearly useless enough compared to Gallente. |
True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5467
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Posted - 2014.01.09 03:29:00 -
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Jotun Izalaru wrote:Excellent, I need to be further punished for picking Minmatar scout, it isn't nearly useless enough compared to Gallente.
YOU FIEND REMOTING ME WHILE I WAS DESTROYING YOUR TEAM.....epic Remote Kill though timed perfectly too my actives just ended......
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
Public Disorder.
450
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Posted - 2014.01.09 03:45:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Just a random thought....if cloaks are equipment, does that mean the logi bonus applies? So logi's can effectively equip cloaks? And at the same time completely invalidate the scout role? Yup, this has been on the top of my mind ever since CCP said they were doing a scout fitting reduction months ago. Somewhere deep in these forums are jokes about invisible logis.
My cloaked Amarr logi with 4 instaspawn uplinks sounds glorious.
ZionTCD Director & Ammar Loyalist
Amarr Sentinel | Amarr Logi | Losematar Scout
What is a signature?
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