Cool rumor bro.

Young padawan, wait until slots and stats are released. I am sure CCP is going to fix suit dB vs scanner dB. They should apply the level 5 bonus to all scout suits as a normal stat

Considering their track history of perpetually screwing things up I'd say discussion is warranted as they tend to "forget" about how things effect other parts of the game when they buff/nerf them.

Young padawan, wait until slots and stats are released. I am sure CCP is going to fix suit dB vs scanner dB. They should apply the level 5 bonus to all scout suits as a normal stat

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This would create more unique roles.

Gall the stealthy hacker
Min the stealthy demoman
Amarr and Cal the true cloaking experts

A nerf to all scouts by taking away the dampening effect, sure the Gallente keep it and that's great for me but that is really a detriment to every other scout. If current values are not adjusted then Amarr, Caldari, and Minmatar Scout won't have the option to use profile dampeners because of the slot layouts and Active Scanners' precision.

I don't think that the scout suit has the ability to run a cloak without profile dampeners because of its low HP and the speed of the suit barely being faster than most medium frames it puts the scouts at a disadvantage as Medium Frames can stack profile dampeners and CPU/PG expanders to fit both a cloak and dampeners.

On the other hand we have the modified Gallente Scout skill. Reducing the passive scan range bonus from 10% to 5% per level is crippling. Gallente Scouts, who have a focus on passive scanning and with maxed passive scanning skills cannon compete against Active Scanners. The best a Gallente SCout can do it approach the range of a ADV scanner and get equal precision, but at the expense of any combat capability. It loses HP, Damage, stealth, and/or speed to do this. Reducing it further just invalidates passive scanning all together.

- The cloak field is a piece of equipment.
- When selected the cortex is raised and you press fire to activate it.
- Once activated, it goes away and your weapon is raised. You can switch to other weapons/equipment while cloaked.
- You cloak. The amount of "shimmer" is increased as you move so standing still you will be nigh invisible, but when moving you will be noticeable to an extent. When cloaked, you obviously have no chevron or health bars, but the enemy reticule will flash red if you run past it.
- Cloak can be deactivated by selecting it and pressing fire.
- Once deactivated or it runs out it will start to recharge.
- Firing a weapon while cloaked will rapidly deplete the cloak field (a single shot from a sniper rifle, for instance, will decloak you)
- You can only fit one cloak field at a time.

^ Yes, indeed. Did we just wait 8 months for a kick in the pants?

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2. Forced use of an equipment slot

These bonuses are essentially requiring an equipment choice to fill the ONE slot that scouts have. We lose the capability to drop uplinks strategically using our profile dampened status. We lose any diversity or flexibility to support our team on the battlefield. Are we to be relegated to one role? It seems to me with no equipment flexibility then we are stuck as cloaked assassins only. While yes that might be great, but what's the point of having every scout be that? It's like telling Logis that "hey you have all this equipment you could use, but you only get bonuses to rep tools. Ammar you get range, Caldari gets increased rep efficiency, and so on....". It's not promoting diversity of the battle field.

To be fair, that's kinda what the preliminary logi bonuses look like, in that each race gets functional bonuses to only a specific equipment type.

The fitting bonus for the cloak is interesting though. Fitting in-game has two parts in this case, your suit and your skill level. A lower level scout is doubly screwed because they don't have access to a suit with higher fitting stats, and they don't get a full reduction of the cloaking costs. So, exactly what sort of fitting the cloaks have is a big question here.

Is max scout level needed to fit one comfortably? Is a protosuit? Or do you need both to just barely be able to fit one and a advanced weapon? If the latter is the case, you've removed lower level scouts from using cloaks and their racial cloak bonuses.

This is somewhat specious on my part I guess, since I imagine there'll be at least three cloaks (basic/advanced/proto), but the mere act of giving them tiers will seemingly make them easier for other specialties to fix.

Also, from the summary of "what cloaks are", cloaks are equipment, no? That means every logistics player with max skill will get a 25% bonus to fit a cloak, which would place them roughly on par with someone with Scout-skill-3.. but in a suit with many more slots, more hp, and much better fitting stats.

The presently suggested stats seem to introduce some issues, but it's hard to say how it will work exactly without knowing:
A. New suit stats
B. Cloak stats

I hope they're completely reworking scout stats for this, because I don't want to see an Amarr Scout be as fast as an assault suit with the fewest slots of all scouts and fewer hp than anything but another scout.

Changes to scout stats I'd like to see:
Increase in cpu/pg
OR
Change 10% cloak fitting reduction per level to 15% reduction per level
- If the bonuses are changed to the SiSi ones with no change to scout cpu/pg, then our bonus is devalued since logis get a 25% reduction and have a fair amount more cpu/pg than scouts. (Mins should get a boost to cpu/pg either way since they've been starved)

Base scan profile reduced to 33
- Essentially make our previous scan profile bonus built in. This would be incredibly good for new scouts as the scout suit wasn't really usable until you could at least passively avoid adv scanners. This would allow us to continue avoiding standard proto scanners with just a basic damp. The gal logi bonus really needs to be balanced so that scouts avoid their scanners using a single cmp damp (a fair hit to our cpu/pg usage without crippling the scouts with only a few low slots. E.G. the min and cal scouts) and proto gal scouts can passively avoid gal logi proto scanners (except for the focused, of course).

Base scan range increased to 20
- This would counteract the gal scouts nerf to scan range while also buffing other scouts.

Base scan precision decrease
- Because reasons...

2nd Equipment slot
- Because if CCP is pushing us to use this cloak, I'd like to not lose all of my versatility.


These changes would keep the scout at current levels while also giving them a few buffs (2nd equipment slot, increased scan range for non-gal scouts, and being the undisputed cloaking class)

The only problem I have with scout suits having an innate low profile is that then anyone in a mlt frame can stay off scans. An advantage I think you should have to skill into scout roles to utilize.

The light frame should keep the current scan profile of 45db. The scout is the stealth suit, the light frame is not.

^ Yes, indeed. Did we just wait 8 months for a kick in the pants?

The light frame should keep the current scan profile of 45db. The scout is the stealth suit, the light frame is not.