DUST Search - [Feedback] Scout bonuses gleaned off of SiSi

Krom Ganesh wrote:

Changes to scout stats I'd like to see:
Increase in cpu/pg
OR
Change 10% cloak fitting reduction per level to 15% reduction per level
- If the bonuses are changed to the SiSi ones with no change to scout cpu/pg, then our bonus is devalued since logis get a 25% reduction and have a fair amount more cpu/pg than scouts. (Mins should get a boost to cpu/pg either way since they've been starved)

Base scan profile reduced to 33
- Essentially make our previous scan profile bonus built in. This would be incredibly good for new scouts as the scout suit wasn't really usable until you could at least passively avoid adv scanners. This would allow us to continue avoiding standard proto scanners with just a basic damp. The gal logi bonus really needs to be balanced so that scouts avoid their scanners using a single cmp damp (a fair hit to our cpu/pg usage without crippling the scouts with only a few low slots. E.G. the min and cal scouts) and proto gal scouts can passively avoid gal logi proto scanners (except for the focused, of course).

Base scan range increased to 20
- This would counteract the gal scouts nerf to scan range while also buffing other scouts.

Base scan precision decrease
- Because reasons...

2nd Equipment slot
- Because if CCP is pushing us to use this cloak, I'd like to not lose all of my versatility.

These changes would keep the scout at current levels while also giving them a few buffs (2nd equipment slot, increased scan range for non-gal scouts, and being the undisputed cloaking class)

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LeGoose SAM-MIK 132	Posted - 2014.01.10 05:15:00 - [31] - Quote +1 to all of this drift.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 954	Posted - 2014.01.10 11:39:00 - [32] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: Changes to scout stats I'd like to see: Increase in cpu/pg OR Change 10% cloak fitting reduction per level to 15% reduction per level - If the bonuses are changed to the SiSi ones with no change to scout cpu/pg, then our bonus is devalued since logis get a 25% reduction and have a fair amount more cpu/pg than scouts. (Mins should get a boost to cpu/pg either way since they've been starved) Base scan profile reduced to 33 - Essentially make our previous scan profile bonus built in. This would be incredibly good for new scouts as the scout suit wasn't really usable until you could at least passively avoid adv scanners. This would allow us to continue avoiding standard proto scanners with just a basic damp. The gal logi bonus really needs to be balanced so that scouts avoid their scanners using a single cmp damp (a fair hit to our cpu/pg usage without crippling the scouts with only a few low slots. E.G. the min and cal scouts) and proto gal scouts can passively avoid gal logi proto scanners (except for the focused, of course). Base scan range increased to 20 - This would counteract the gal scouts nerf to scan range while also buffing other scouts. Base scan precision decrease - Because reasons... 2nd Equipment slot - Because if CCP is pushing us to use this cloak, I'd like to not lose all of my versatility. These changes would keep the scout at current levels while also giving them a few buffs (2nd equipment slot, increased scan range for non-gal scouts, and being the undisputed cloaking class) ^^ I share this view pretty much exactly. This keeps the scouts playable even with the loss of the current dampening bonus per level, and provides improvements which keep the class viable when a cloak isn't equipped. Scouts need to be buffed in small degrees in the absence of the cloak. As much as I wish CCP would just leave the damn thing out of the game, at LEAST tune our suits to be able to function in a balanced way with and WITHOUT the cloak....
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 480	Posted - 2014.01.10 14:59:00 - [33] - Quote The only problem I have with scout suits having an innate low profile is that then anyone in a mlt frame can stay off scans. An advantage I think you should have to skill into scout roles to utilize. PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Twitch
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 1169	Posted - 2014.01.10 17:11:00 - [34] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: The only problem I have with scout suits having an innate low profile is that then anyone in a mlt frame can stay off scans. An advantage I think you should have to skill into scout roles to utilize. The light frame should keep the current scan profile of 45db. The scout is the stealth suit, the light frame is not. Scout Roles: M-Speedy Anarchist \| C-Chaos Weaver \| G-Stealth Recon \| A-Endurance Hunter
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 963	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:28:00 - [35] - Quote ^^ Definitely agree on this.
voidfaction Void of Faction 92	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:08:00 - [36] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: The only problem I have with scout suits having an innate low profile is that then anyone in a mlt frame can stay off scans. An advantage I think you should have to skill into scout roles to utilize. The light frame should keep the current scan profile of 45db. The scout is the stealth suit, the light frame is not. But then the logi, assault, and heavy all scream they want stat difference from basic suit to class suit. I know I would. why they didn't split the class bonus in 2 and give basic frame 1/2 and class 1/2 forcing proto in both to get full bonus i don't know. they sure made leveling past 3 in basic frames pointless other than to ease the masses that were crying they had to level basic to 5 first.
KayDidYue Mercenaries On Duty 33	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:38:00 - [37] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: ^ Yes, indeed. Did we just wait 8 months for a kick in the pants? More like a kick in the groin! Male or female, noob or pro, my SR is steady, and my trigger ready. Walk or run, if you're in my scope, you will die!
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 487	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:56:00 - [38] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: The only problem I have with scout suits having an innate low profile is that then anyone in a mlt frame can stay off scans. An advantage I think you should have to skill into scout roles to utilize. The light frame should keep the current scan profile of 45db. The scout is the stealth suit, the light frame is not. Ah yes good call... I think CCP counts "light frame" as scouts tho. At least in terms of scout play. EX: January events and BPO Dragonfly suit gets the bonuses from gal scout skills. So as long as thats a "scout" suit stat I am good with that. PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Twitch


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