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Aria Gomes Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising 253	Posted - 2014.01.04 23:17:00 - [31] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Aria Gomes wrote: The GLU-5 is still alright though the nerf to range was dumb. If anything the Assault and Tactical should switch ranges. The TAC has a scope which means it's for a longer range than the Assault variant. The range on the TAR is still marginally longer than the standard AR? Also, consider how good the TAR is compared to the SCR, RR, or CR. I thought the Tactical got nerfed? But yeah it's pretty much this for: CR>TAR>SR>RR I like the CR because of te burst and I can follow a person with my bursts; shoot, shoot, follow, shoot, follow, shoot and dead. I can follow the enemy better with it. TAR, same kind of thing just a heavy hitting bullet instead of burst. It feels good shooting this gun because it hits hard and you can "burst" kinda lol. It's a follow your target gun. SR, great gun I wish it had a proper scope or something. I like that these guys you can't really pray and spray, especially with the SR. RR, I like that it has the kick of a donkey but it's more like an Assault gun more than anything. I kinds thought it was going to be more "tactical" but it's supposed to be like the Breach right? Meh I can't remember
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 805	Posted - 2014.01.04 23:31:00 - [32] - Quote Buff the speed and the range! At least that's what I think. I'm hearing a bunch of yelling but not answer to resolve it, what do you guys think would actually fix the AR and maybe it's variants as well if they weren't supposed to be UP due to being knock-offs of the other weapons. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance 213	Posted - 2014.01.04 23:34:00 - [33] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Buff the speed and the range! At least that's what I think. I'm hearing a bunch of yelling but not answer to resolve it, what do you guys think would actually fix the AR and maybe it's variants as well if they weren't supposed to be UP due to being knock-offs of the other weapons. damage should look like this: AR > CR > SCR > RR. The damage difference should reflect the range differences. This isn't hard. IF you go up against a AR with an RR in the ARs range, you should get heavily outdamaged.
Nitrobeacon Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 187	Posted - 2014.01.05 00:22:00 - [34] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Buff the speed and the range! At least that's what I think. I'm hearing a bunch of yelling but not answer to resolve it, what do you guys think would actually fix the AR and maybe it's variants as well if they weren't supposed to be UP due to being knock-offs of the other weapons. damage should look like this: AR > CR > SCR > RR. The damage difference should reflect the range differences. This isn't hard. IF you go up against a AR with an RR in the ARs range, you should get heavily outdamaged. Unless there's two RR players against the one AR guy
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 604	Posted - 2014.01.05 00:26:00 - [35] - Quote Your doing it wrong.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2507	Posted - 2014.01.05 00:42:00 - [36] - Quote Each weapon carries a uniqueness that is good for unique combat scenarios. So it's...working as intended Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 440	Posted - 2014.01.05 01:28:00 - [37] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Aria Gomes wrote: The GLU-5 is still alright though the nerf to range was dumb. If anything the Assault and Tactical should switch ranges. The TAC has a scope which means it's for a longer range than the Assault variant. The range on the TAR is still marginally longer than the standard AR? Also, consider how good the TAR is compared to the SCR, RR, or CR. I finally abandoned TAC AR after almost a year of use. Hung thru all rof, clipsize and recoil nerfs. Had the hardest time when armor plates came viable - clip of 18 shots just didn't have enough damage. Rail Rifles finally made them obsolete. Um rail rifles should make them obsolete We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 289	Posted - 2014.01.05 01:31:00 - [38] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: CR is totally OP. The problem here is not the AR which is already damn too much powerful but the CR which is totally **** up. CR / AR / SCR / RR should be nerfed we already know that. " BANE** " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Tectonic Fusion 932	Posted - 2014.01.05 02:21:00 - [39] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Aria Gomes wrote: The GLU-5 is still alright though the nerf to range was dumb. If anything the Assault and Tactical should switch ranges. The TAC has a scope which means it's for a longer range than the Assault variant. The range on the TAR is still marginally longer than the standard AR? Also, consider how good the TAR is compared to the SCR, RR, or CR. I finally abandoned TAC AR after almost a year of use. Hung thru all rof, clipsize and recoil nerfs. Had the hardest time when armor plates came viable - clip of 18 shots just didn't have enough damage. Rail Rifles finally made them obsolete. Um rail rifles should make them obsolete The Scrambler Rifle should have made it obsolete... Solo Player Squad status: Locked
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1799	Posted - 2014.01.05 03:42:00 - [40] - Quote At least the combat rifle can't take down a heavy in 1.2 seconds from 50 meters away like the AR can. at 1.2 seconds you might have gotten maybe 3 bursts in. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5336	Posted - 2014.01.05 04:30:00 - [41] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Each weapon carries a uniqueness that is good for unique combat scenarios. So it's...working as intended So where exactly is the CQC doing it's job in this situation? Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
jordy mack Ultramarine Corp 84	Posted - 2014.01.05 04:37:00 - [42] - Quote And CR is the worst combat rifle.... o.0 Subject line fail? Less QQ more PewPew
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5339	Posted - 2014.01.05 04:49:00 - [43] - Quote jordy mack wrote: And CR is the worst combat rifle.... o.0 Subject line fail? And that is why we need to change the AR's name to Plasma Rifle. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
TheDarthMa94 The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 40	Posted - 2014.01.05 04:49:00 - [44] - Quote I don't know if its my imagination guys, but sometimes i feel i perform better using ADV suit than my Proto suit.... Sith Apprentice and Director "HaHaHa, serve you right for trying to tea bag on the best tea bagger in the game"
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5340	Posted - 2014.01.05 05:05:00 - [45] - Quote TheDarthMa94 wrote: I don't know if its my imagination guys, but sometimes i feel i perform better using ADV suit than my Proto suit.... Probably you becoming lazy, have that happen to me too. It's good to practice in advanced suits to keep your skills sharp. I run proto because I hate scanners so I put on a profile damp, but it leaves me with only two low slots AS AN ARMOR TANKER on my advanced suit. It ain't pretty. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2796	Posted - 2014.01.05 05:23:00 - [46] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Proto suit vs Adv suit AR vs CR Close range Would seem like the proto suit would win right? NOPE Double damage and proficiency, dropped his shields, he turns around (I was to his side) and deals such an absurd amount of damage that I just dropped before I could pop his armor. Switched to CR and suddenly this guy is being cut like butter. Oh and look at that, lower CPU/PG requirements, so I could fit a better grenade. How are they going to exploit more money from boosters without making all the weapons we've maxed useless!? Honestly, such a short sighted community No.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5340	Posted - 2014.01.05 05:47:00 - [47] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Proto suit vs Adv suit AR vs CR Close range Would seem like the proto suit would win right? NOPE Double damage and proficiency, dropped his shields, he turns around (I was to his side) and deals such an absurd amount of damage that I just dropped before I could pop his armor. Switched to CR and suddenly this guy is being cut like butter. Oh and look at that, lower CPU/PG requirements, so I could fit a better grenade. How are they going to exploit more money from boosters without making all the weapons we've maxed useless!? Honestly, such a short sighted community I have CR maxed along with AR, I use the AR out of principle :X Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
XxVEXESxX Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 9	Posted - 2014.01.05 06:15:00 - [48] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: TheDarthMa94 wrote: I don't know if its my imagination guys, but sometimes i feel i perform better using ADV suit than my Proto suit.... Probably you becoming lazy, have that happen to me too. It's good to practice in advanced suits to keep your skills sharp. I run proto because I hate scanners so I put on a profile damp, but it leaves me with only two low slots AS AN ARMOR TANKER on my advanced suit. It ain't pretty. And this answers why a CR is killing you... "AS AN ARMOR TANKER" This thread needs to be locked before the plague spreads. Another -1 for OP.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5344	Posted - 2014.01.05 06:34:00 - [49] - Quote XxVEXESxX wrote: Cat Merc wrote: TheDarthMa94 wrote: I don't know if its my imagination guys, but sometimes i feel i perform better using ADV suit than my Proto suit.... Probably you becoming lazy, have that happen to me too. It's good to practice in advanced suits to keep your skills sharp. I run proto because I hate scanners so I put on a profile damp, but it leaves me with only two low slots AS AN ARMOR TANKER on my advanced suit. It ain't pretty. And this answers why a CR is killing you... "AS AN ARMOR TANKER" This thread needs to be locked before the plague spreads. Another -1 for OP. I already explained it before. -1 to you for not reading sir. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 247	Posted - 2014.01.05 12:20:00 - [50] - Quote XxVEXESxX wrote: Min / Gal CR: short to mid burst damage AR: short to mid sustain damage Cal / Amr RR: mid to long sustain damage Scr: mid burst damage Lzr: mid to long balanced* damage (sustainable and burstable if heat and range is controlled by the user) Weapons are working as intended. Good job CCP. Proficiency, damage mods and marksmanship will overlap and blend these weapons on the battlefield. -1 to OP. HaHa LOL. Wait it wasn't a joke ? AR and CR have something like twicem ore DPS than Lazer in the Optimal range of Lazer. CR can kill easily beyond 90 meters it's mid range for you ? And long range is ? 32Km ? As i said Rifles are balanced EACH OTHER. Nice you just confirmed it. Now we could maybe balanced them WITH THIS GAME ?????? It's too much powerful for ALL the actual dropsuits decreasing the TTK about 1-2 sec. Too much powerful for ALL the others weapons. You think we're gonna change ALL the game and 2 years of devellopement for these 4 ****** up rifles ? Wake up.

Mordecai Sanguine What The French 247	Posted - 2014.01.05 12:23:00 - [51] - Quote XxVEXESxX wrote: Cat Merc wrote: TheDarthMa94 wrote: I don't know if its my imagination guys, but sometimes i feel i perform better using ADV suit than my Proto suit.... Probably you becoming lazy, have that happen to me too. It's good to practice in advanced suits to keep your skills sharp. I run proto because I hate scanners so I put on a profile damp, but it leaves me with only two low slots AS AN ARMOR TANKER on my advanced suit. It ain't pretty. And this answers why a CR is killing you... "AS AN ARMOR TANKER" This thread needs to be locked before the plague spreads. Another -1 for OP. It ALSO DESTROOOOOY shield tankers. Because of the fail about shield / armor. Shield : -5% Armor : +10% Nobody notice it but it means you can shoot shield and Armor it will almost be the same. It kill Shield it kill Armor it THE SAME. So WAKE UP. To all people who thinks Rifles are not OP. STOP PLAYING WITH THEM. For 3-4 Weeks. Then you'll maybe see the problem with them. Right now you're NOT objective because you're using them.
Daxxis KANNAH Distinct Covert Initiative 569	Posted - 2014.01.05 13:17:00 - [52] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Each weapon carries a uniqueness that is good for unique combat scenarios. So it's...working as intended So where exactly is the CQC doing it's job in this situation? The CR is also short range CCP made that painfully obvious in every slide they put up on rifles CR - Short to medium range
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5347	Posted - 2014.01.05 13:26:00 - [53] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Each weapon carries a uniqueness that is good for unique combat scenarios. So it's...working as intended So where exactly is the CQC doing it's job in this situation? The CR is also short range CCP made that painfully obvious in every slide they put up on rifles CR - Short to medium range WHAT is the reason for you to use an AR. It has less range than the CR, ironsight. Yeah, sure, maybe full auto, but seriously is it so hard to tap the R1 button? Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 7487	Posted - 2014.01.05 13:34:00 - [54] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Aria Gomes wrote: The GLU-5 is still alright though the nerf to range was dumb. If anything the Assault and Tactical should switch ranges. The TAC has a scope which means it's for a longer range than the Assault variant. The range on the TAR is still marginally longer than the standard AR? Also, consider how good the TAR is compared to the SCR, RR, or CR. I finally abandoned TAC AR after almost a year of use. Hung thru all rof, clipsize and recoil nerfs. Had the hardest time when armor plates came viable - clip of 18 shots just didn't have enough damage. Rail Rifles finally made them obsolete. Um rail rifles should make them obsolete No. They shouldn't. Everything should have its role. Suggesting that something should completely outclass something else is stupid balancing. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Daxxis KANNAH Distinct Covert Initiative 569	Posted - 2014.01.05 13:50:00 - [55] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Each weapon carries a uniqueness that is good for unique combat scenarios. So it's...working as intended So where exactly is the CQC doing it's job in this situation? The CR is also short range CCP made that painfully obvious in every slide they put up on rifles CR - Short to medium range WHAT is the reason for you to use an AR. It has less range than the CR, ironsight. Yeah, sure, maybe full auto, but seriously is it so hard to tap the R1 button? When you tap the button plus the fact it has more recoil you have to keep adjusting your aim. - Some people just prefer to hold the button and only adjust aim if need be. You say ironsight as if its a bad thing. imo ironsight is better than the scope at closer range and the truth is using the scope you cant be lazy or you will miss. Also at close range everyone is hipfiring so this isnt really an issue.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5350	Posted - 2014.01.05 14:06:00 - [56] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Each weapon carries a uniqueness that is good for unique combat scenarios. So it's...working as intended So where exactly is the CQC doing it's job in this situation? The CR is also short range CCP made that painfully obvious in every slide they put up on rifles CR - Short to medium range WHAT is the reason for you to use an AR. It has less range than the CR, ironsight. Yeah, sure, maybe full auto, but seriously is it so hard to tap the R1 button? When you tap the button plus the fact it has more recoil you have to keep adjusting your aim. - Some people just prefer to hold the button and only adjust aim if need be. You say ironsight as if its a bad thing. imo ironsight is better than the scope at closer range and the truth is using the scope you cant be lazy or you will miss. Also at close range everyone is hipfiring so this isnt really an issue. At close range you hip fire. And no, it BARELY has any recoil if any, only at extreme ranges where the AR does like 5% damage. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 427	Posted - 2014.01.05 14:51:00 - [57] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Proto suit vs Adv suit AR vs CR Close range Would seem like the proto suit would win right? NOPE Double damage and proficiency, dropped his shields, he turns around (I was to his side) and deals such an absurd amount of damage that I just dropped before I could pop his armor. Switched to CR and suddenly this guy is being cut like butter. Oh and look at that, lower CPU/PG requirements, so I could fit a better grenade. So why is it still used so often? A lot of people have spent a lot of SP in the AR (like me) but not evryone has 30 mil SP spent so he could save up SP for the new Rifles. Apart from that the AR is still a good weapon it is just the weakest of all ARs and some people may still like it. I have used the LR for quite some time although I kew it was UP. And I quite enjoy the scout suit although I know it is the weakest suit. So for some the best is not always the most enjoyable option..
Sgt Buttscratch 1245	Posted - 2014.01.05 15:29:00 - [58] - Quote I've beaten X RR and X CR users with my Duvolle, do it quite often actually, don't actually know why I also specced into CR, I don't even use them. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5350	Posted - 2014.01.05 15:41:00 - [59] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: I've beaten X RR and X CR users with my Duvolle, do it quite often actually, don't actually know why I also specced into CR, I don't even use them. I do too, it's just that whenever I do use the CR, I kick more arse than ever. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1756	Posted - 2014.01.05 17:17:00 - [60] - Quote Atiim wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Atiim wrote: Because CCP Players: AR IS OP! CCP: Fine let me introduce rifles that make it irrelevant Troll face Yo dawg, I heard you didn't like being killed in half a second by rifles, so we added 2 more and increased their ranges for you. CCP Troll Face QFT



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