CCP, just follow the mantra of, "Keep it simple, stupid." You can do this by:
1. Holding tank prices where they're at right now.
2. Restore AV damage to previous levels.

Only THEN should you worry about adjusting the actual tanks--i.e. adjusting the ability to stack more than one hardener of the same type, efficacy of modules (I agree that uniform damage reduction is a dumb idea in regards to module levels- a proto module should be more effective than a militia one, and not just offer an extended amount of usage) or PG/CPU usage.

Slap 2 Militia Damage Mods on a Militia Railgun Sica and you can kill a Gunnogi with a full Complex fit.

That is broken.

No its not. This setup is glass cannon. When I use it my squaddies lit enemy tanks and whole journey into city must be very well planed to kill a tank. And one FG or blaster tank kill me on sight. What a adrenaline rush. Love it! OTOH its great that 2dmg sica or 3 dmg gunogi can take redline sniper with ease. Redline sniping is well... its not a fine idea afterall. They get what they deserved.

I'm talking about the Redline snipers, man.

A frontline av suit with just a swarm launcher should be able to solo a single sica/soma

That's where Ccp needs to start

Lav spam became an issue because everyone was tired of losing 1m isk tanks to 3 hits from AV so we all jumped in llavs and ran people over.

That alone should tell you av was OP. It was too risky to use a tank so we all freaking STOPPED.

I hate tanks

However I only have a problem with the tank spam
And that has nothing to do more than the cost of them.

So keep them as they are bit increase the cost.

A milita tank should cost 120-150 in it's raw layout

So of you lose one tank your are more or less at +- 0 on isk.


Leave the rest as it is

No. That's wrong idea. Cheap MLT tanks are for a reason, because they are weak. Using wisely fitted Sica against wisely fitted Gunlogi toe-to-toe is suicide. Even when you organize trap with 2 MLT tanks on 1 Gunlogi there is high chance that you will die. If you make MLT tanks costly, you just make rich high SP chars untouchable again! Did you forget about Suryas and Enforcers? They easly killed 30 or even more clones per match without risk. And now think about unkillable Gunlogis And Maddies running free from MLT menace.
There is only one way. Little unnerf (just return about 30% dmg/range/RoF of recent nerf) to AV and even more little nerf to tank speed (between 5 and 10%). I hate when CCP use hammer instead of scalpel. Especially that AFIK CCP can make this changes via hotfix - like they did with TacAR after Uprising.

Says the Hammer suggesting a Hammer-Flavored Scalpel to a Hammer..........

And once again, Dropships are suicide.

Oh wait, they are even now because you can two-shot them from anywhere on the map with Militia railgun tanks.

Is there anyone on these ******* forums that even considers the fact that AV is used against stuff other than tanks?

...and the easiest solution to the Dropship problem is to make them cheap, just like the militia tanks. One thing the game shouldn't do is turn them into flying tanks that can soak up large amounts of damage before safely retreating into the sky/cover (as tanks currently can do--hence the need to restore AV values.) Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing DS prices resemble those of LAVs for the purely transport-focused models. Offensive dropships (does such a thing exist?) should come with a higher price tag--maybe equal to the militia tanks.

[quote=Everything DiesIs there anyone on these ******* forums that even considers the fact that AV is used against stuff other than tanks?

No.......

I agree entirely. AV needs to be completely restored and dropships can become vastly cheaper in response. And in order to satisfy pilots fine, increase swam ranges by about half of what they used to be so you can have a chance to avoid missiles. I can understand that, but then VASTLY increase the power of AV grenades because currently infantry has no recourse against tanks at all outside of RE and even those fail. I once planted a cluster of 8 proximity mines in a match all in one area in a main road that tankers used. They used the speed glitch and ran over the entire prox mine cluster without even triggering a single one. Watched it happen about 15m from my face.

I'm tired of hearing this BS from the tank community that "everything is already balanced" just because they can go around the map again and go 61-0 in matches without even having to worry about loosing a single tank from infantry based weaponry.

Why not, their both MLT.

MLT=MLT.

That's balance.

I wonder if tanks feel too strong because tanks got a buff, price cut, and every form of AV got nerfed? Seriously how didn't see this coming CCP

Thank you, Saberwing!!!! :D <3333

I wonder if tanks feel too strong because tanks got a buff, price cut, and every form of AV got nerfed? Seriously how didn't see this coming CCP