A frontline av suit with just a swarm launcher should be able to solo a single sica/soma

That's where Ccp needs to start

Lav spam became an issue because everyone was tired of losing 1m isk tanks to 3 hits from AV so we all jumped in llavs and ran people over.

That alone should tell you av was OP. It was too risky to use a tank so we all freaking STOPPED.

No. That's wrong idea. Cheap MLT tanks are for a reason, because they are weak. Using wisely fitted Sica against wisely fitted Gunlogi toe-to-toe is suicide. Even when you organize trap with 2 MLT tanks on 1 Gunlogi there is high chance that you will die. If you make MLT tanks costly, you just make rich high SP chars untouchable again! Did you forget about Suryas and Enforcers? They easly killed 30 or even more clones per match without risk. And now think about unkillable Gunlogis And Maddies running free from MLT menace.
There is only one way. Little unnerf (just return about 30% dmg/range/RoF of recent nerf) to AV and even more little nerf to tank speed (between 5 and 10%). I hate when CCP use hammer instead of scalpel. Especially that AFIK CCP can make this changes via hotfix - like they did with TacAR after Uprising.

Why not, their both MLT.

MLT=MLT.

That's balance.

That's because 1 week into the update, there were so many things broken about vehicles [and still is] that it isn't even funny. 100% speed boost to MLT NOS modules? LOL.


AV was "Broken" since Chromosone. There were no Hotfixes, only Buffs & waiting periods. Your point is invalid.

Why should somebody be able to use something without investing SP while requiring multiple people who didn't invest SP to destroy them? Your simply paying for a huge advantage (that actually extends to vast majority of tankers as well, not just MLT ones)

SP & ISK..... Zero SP & ISK should not Instagib Zero SP that costs ISK. Only under the condition of a Skilled AVER should a Tank be Soloed. This entails Key Positioning & Strategy. This is already possible, thus invalidating your argument. You are basically asking for a LAVless Jihad Jeep, which further denotes your lack of Logic & Skill.

From my recollection, vehicles were nerfed 1-2 times. I don't remember reading the patch notes for every patch and it saying how they nerfed vehicles again.

Nerfed since Precursor...... The perpetual Nerfing only stopped in 1.7, but technically we were still Nerfed. It's just blanketed under AV Nerf QQ, thus making the Tank Nerf transparent to the point of invisibility. You cannot read "Ninja Fixes", your statement is irrelevant.

Oh yes, another wives tale passed around by tankers at the campfire. "Atiim want's vehicles removed." Atiim wanted our vehicle update was pushed back." "Atiim's not a tanker" ~and so much more.

You're not a Tanker. This is Fact, not Fiction. But you may resume perpetrating with your "Fish Stories".

I was not the cause, nor in favor of the tank re-"balancing" update being pushed further. In fact, I do remember saying many times that tanks needed a buff. However, most of you and other tanker's ideas were either idiotic, or something that would make tanks overpowered; usually both.

Link to my "Idiotic Ideas" or GTFO.

You still think KING CHECKMATE is my ALT huh? Well, considering how we have been placed in the same battle before, I'm going to say that we are different people.

Left Nut, Right Nut, you're both the same D**K. Also.....Dualboxing, & you are the ALT.

You're questioning my quality of a "gamer". Your the one who made 2 rage threads QQing about how much you suck at tanking.

Someone has to Troll me on me "Sucking".....& I guess it had to be me since nobody else can do it with a straight face

edit: Long post is way too long