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Eris Ernaga State Patriots 904	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:05:00 - [1] - Quote Planetside 2 wins Honestly it's doing everything dust has failed or is striving to do I see PS2 as the bigger brother who outshines Dust in every way. MMO PS2 does it while Dust is a lobby shooter Fighters planetside 2 has it Ground transport vechiles PS2 has it Weapon attachments PS2 has it Working comms PS2 has it Large squads and platoons PS2 has it, have fun in your 6 man squads Dusties Stunning visuals PS2 has it Game, weapon, vechile balance PS2 has it Gun recoil that can be reduced making the weapons require more skill PS2 has it Open world instant action PS2 has it Fair not rip off micro transations PS2 has it A great growing community PS2 has it . And guess what both games started beta at around the same period but I don't see Dust winning awards, all Dust is is a future concept. Also PS2 was smart enof to start on PC and move to PS4 Dust downgraded from the PC to the PS3 and now don't offer PC players a chance at the game and guess what aren't upgrading to PS4. Haha Dust will never succeed have fun with1.8 which you still haven't got news on. *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 123	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:07:00 - [2] - Quote I don't see scouts on your list there. Obviously Dust is superior. Nova knifing scout masochist. I would be a sadist, but CCP won't let me.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1312	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:10:00 - [3] - Quote Planetside 2 has also been around quite a bit longer. Give Dust time. ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 905	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:10:00 - [4] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I don't see scouts on your list there. Obviously Dust is superior. They have infiltrator which have cloak and fit their sniper role in fact they have 6 main classes not 4 *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 905	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:11:00 - [5] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Planetside 2 has also been around quite a bit longer. Give Dust time. Barely both started beta around the szme time PS1 yes. *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
BuTtHuRtPEepZ Raging Pack of Homosapiens 138	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:22:00 - [6] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Planetside 2 wins Honestly it's doing everything dust has failed or is striving to do I see PS2 as the bigger brother who outshines Dust in every way. MMO PS2 does it while Dust is a lobby shooter Fighters planetside 2 has it Ground transport vechiles PS2 has it Weapon attachments PS2 has it Working comms PS2 has it Large squads and platoons PS2 has it, have fun in your 6 man squads Dusties Stunning visuals PS2 has it Game, weapon, vechile balance PS2 has it Gun recoil that can be reduced making the weapons require more skill PS2 has it Open world instant action PS2 has it Fair not rip off micro transations PS2 has it A great growing community PS2 has it . And guess what both games started beta at around the same period but I don't see Dust winning awards, all Dust is is a future concept. Also PS2 was smart enof to start on PC and move to PS4 Dust downgraded from the PC to the PS3 and now don't offer PC players a chance at the game and guess what aren't upgrading to PS4. Haha Dust will never succeed have fun with1.8 which you still haven't got news on. >gun recoil reduced >weapons require more skill >choose one
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 577	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:25:00 - [7] - Quote Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? Is there a market? Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? Also dust is going to the ps4, but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that. Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger. Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2493	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:30:00 - [8] - Quote This is just terrible that you resort to some crap like this. You were here for the PS2 bomber and you know how annoying it was. Then you post this announcement talking about you're leaving and that you have a PS4. Declaring how much you hate Dust. Yet you keep coming back spreading your horse monkey poop around here. Take this crap to the locker room. This is attention whoring at its finest. Don't make an announcement that you're leaving then you return here using alts to post up threads and your main to talk about PS2. If you're going to leave, leave. You make yourself look stupid doing this sort of crap. Creditability out the window. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2580	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:31:00 - [9] - Quote Does PS2 have a bad@$$ looking suit like the proto commando or proto amarr logi? Proud member of the Commndo 6 <3 Commando AK.0
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 906	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:36:00 - [10] - Quote Bahaha ps2 still trumps this terrible game *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.

psyanyde 39	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:37:00 - [11] - Quote Don't forget to buy station cash So you can buy them there nifty weapons you don't want to grind for
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 906	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:41:00 - [12] - Quote psyanyde wrote: Don't forget to buy station cash So you can buy them there nifty weapons you don't want to grind for Nintendo 64 called itwants its game back *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 906	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:42:00 - [13] - Quote Hahahahahaha *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 906	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:44:00 - [14] - Quote psyanyde wrote: Don't forget to buy station cash So you can buy them there nifty weapons you don't want to grind for Have fun spending a month and a week for 1 proto suit XD Oh waig "boost ahead with aurum today" *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc League of Infamy 638	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:47:00 - [15] - Quote PS2 is just a big circle jerk. I personally don't like it. And although Dust doesn't have many of the features it should, it will, eventually. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 906	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:55:00 - [16] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: PS2 is just a big circle jerk. I personally don't like it. And although Dust doesn't have many of the features it should, it will, eventually. Ha everyones willing to give Dust the benifit of the doubt and wait years for Dust ask your self where will PS2 be in a few years? Still ahead of Dust with actually fixed problems. *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3012	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:58:00 - [17] - Quote The PS2 Bomber Is Back! /o\ Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate AV is easy huh? Talk is cheap.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 906	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:01:00 - [18] - Quote Guns have recoil which requires more skill however weapon recoil can be reduced with weapon attachments this rakes more skill. Guns in Dust hzve almost no recoil and guns that do can just be compensated with AA. Sorry on PS4 hard to type perfectly. *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 27	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:07:00 - [19] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? Is there a market? Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? How does half of those amount to any tangible benefit in gaming experience? As for the other half they're pointless or aren't implemented in the game yet. Quote: Also dust is going to the ps4, but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that. Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger. Where did you get that tidbit of info, last time I remember CCP was on record saying that it isn't pleased at all with the state of the of the and game wants DUST 514 launch ready before even considering porting to the PS4. I don't think the current build of the game is anywhere near what they have in mind. Quote: Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir. I haven't seen a strawman argument like this in awhile.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 906	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:12:00 - [20] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? Is there a market? Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? How does half of those amount to any tangible benefit in gaming experience? As for the other half they're pointless or aren't implemented in the game yet. Quote: Also dust is going to the ps4, but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that. Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger. Where did you get that tidbit of info, last time I remember CCP was on record saying that it isn't pleased at all with the state of the of the and game wants DUST 514 launch ready before even considering porting to the PS4. I don't think the current build of the game is anywhere near what they have in mind. Quote: Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir. I haven't seen a strawman argument like this in awhile. They think parts of the game that don't really benifit it are Dust highlights. We all know the EVE Dust connection is weak and most experienced Eve pilots hate Dusties. You all are the scut of New Eden the ones who have to clean the **. Hell even EVE VR has it better then you guys. Lol Closed Beta Vet** State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.

Zion Shad Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2071	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:18:00 - [21] - Quote PS2 is failing pretty bad right now. A rumor was out that Sony thought of or tried to sell it to CCP so they could merge it in to Dust. If its so good why is no one playing anymore? Prob because no matter what you do, by the next day it is undone Co-Owner of Multiplexgaming.com Co-Host of PODSIDE on iTunes
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 907	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:20:00 - [22] - Quote Is PC really zny different? *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 829	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:34:00 - [23] - Quote If its so amazing and great, then why is it dying? Planetside 2 is a ******, grindy, pay to win snoozefest. You think grinding for a week to get a top of the line proto suit is bad? Have fun grinding for a month just to get a decent setup. Not to mention the lack of action happening around the map in PS2, usually you'll just join in a zerg and go around in circles capping the same stuff you did yesterday, until you meet a more powerful zerg. "If your enemy is equal prepare for him, if greater elude him, if weaker.... crush him"
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1470	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:34:00 - [24] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: PS2 is just a big circle jerk. I personally don't like it. And although Dust doesn't have many of the features it should, it will, eventually. Ha everyones willing to give Dust the benifit of the doubt and wait years for Dust ask your self where will PS2 be in a few years? Still ahead of Dust with actually fixed problems. PS2 in a few years? Reduced to 1 server probably like PS1 because they don't have players anymore. The devs already wanted to introduce P2W. They put it on hold FOR NOW. CCP? Nobody ever said Dust 514 is P2W and what is CCP doing? Introducing the LP Store which makes it even less P2W. Another point for Dust: Your character will still be around in 6 or 7 years. In the same game. PS2? Your character will get wiped as soon as PS3 comes around. Persistent Universe: Dust has it. Planetside 2 has server resets every now and then. Pubstomps? The same in both games. PS2 has 1 faction always dominating the other 2. In Dust we have FW and problems with matchmaking. Dust has a kickass fitting system. PS2 just has predefined classes. Dust has a kickass skill system. PS2 has some boring unlocks. Dust has some awesome updates planned. Sure they may take some time. But PS2 is basically complete. They have some minor features planned down the road, but nothing as ambitious as the stuff Dust will get. Dust has player events. And I mean real big stuff news sites care about, thanks to the connection with Eve Online. Stuff like the Molden Heath Revolution for example. PS2 has some small player events only the players care about. The PS2 universe just isn't as interesting as the Eve Universe. Eve Lore is awesome! I also don't remember that you're able to call buddys from another game to help you out in PS2. PS2 of course had these big ass battles. But they are almost a thing of the past now. Too many players already left. You only have about 2500 left on each server during peak times. These are unequally distributed between the 3 factions. So I guess the biggest stuff you can see nowadays is something like maybe 100 player battles. Big? Sure. But by far not the "Battles between thousands of players!" they promised. Also these big battles have to happen first. They're not something you just can have directly after logging in. Planetside 2 will die when its player base dies. Because the main aspect that game has going for it is the big battles. So its biggest strength is also its biggest weakness. Dust? ** that **! You can still have battles and fun with only 32 players. In the future, after they introduced PvE, you can even play it alone. So here you have it. Basically most people think Planetside 2 is better because its complete. But that's about it. You don't really have awesome stuff like new gamemodes or the likes to look forward to. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 907	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:43:00 - [25] - Quote Lie post are sad to read and hard on the eyes. *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Zirzo Valcyn Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 37	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:49:00 - [26] - Quote planetside 2 bomber > op battlefield 4 beats them both imo.. it's a throwback to bad company 2 and everything 3 wasn't.. u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
Zirzo Valcyn Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 37	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:52:00 - [27] - Quote Zion Shad wrote: PS2 is failing pretty bad right now. A rumor was out that Sony thought of or tried to sell it to CCP so they could merge it in to Dust. If its so good why is no one playing anymore? Prob because no matter what you do, by the next day it is undone yea well it's a glorified cap n hold.. thats not exactly a bad thing for ppl just wanting to forget the day b4.. dust was supposed to hook up the meta game but all it hooks up is a bunch of drama for really nothing more than a glorified scoreboard but GOD DAM battlefield 4 is good.. cant wait for SW battlefront 3... u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 585	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:55:00 - [28] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? Is there a market? Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? How does half of those amount to any tangible benefit in gaming experience? As for the other half they're pointless or aren't implemented in the game yet. I'm sorry, why do you play dust? Eris I don't understand this, leave dust, or don't. Don't bring in talk about ps2
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 281	Posted - 2014.01.04 03:01:00 - [29] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: psyanyde wrote: Don't forget to buy station cash So you can buy them there nifty weapons you don't want to grind for Nintendo 64 called it wants its game back . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 73	Posted - 2014.01.04 03:11:00 - [30] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: PS2 is just a big circle jerk. I personally don't like it. And although Dust doesn't have many of the features it should, it will, eventually. Ha everyones willing to give Dust the benifit of the doubt and wait years for Dust ask your self where will PS2 be in a few years? Still ahead of Dust with actually fixed problems. In a few years ps2 will be dead. You'll be raving about ps3 or ps4. Dust is a marathon game. It will still be kicking for years to come, that's why I like it. The short shelf life games like ps2, cod, bf3 oh wait its bf4 now, bore me to tears after a month of play time. Yes Dust is slow to change, yes it has problems, but it is getting better. And it will continue to get better over time. Go play your stupid ps2. Once you get bored with it, dust will still be here.

ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 732	Posted - 2014.01.04 03:17:00 - [31] - Quote not this crap again. go play your amazingly boring game. dont get me wrong ps2 is awesome. or would be if it was not so dull and unrewarding https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 784	Posted - 2014.01.04 03:33:00 - [32] - Quote Does PS2 come on PS3? Awwwwwe...,snap...! Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 908	Posted - 2014.01.04 05:40:00 - [33] - Quote These comments show what a dull community does has. *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 866	Posted - 2014.01.04 05:42:00 - [34] - Quote PlanetSide 2... isn't fun though. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation 548	Posted - 2014.01.04 05:47:00 - [35] - Quote does planet side 2 cost money to play or even get.. if it does then dust is superior in every possible way. or if it isnt for ps3... because i know little about planetside. i have been a little interested in the game but have no clue where or even how to find or get it. but if it costs money to get and must be purchased and not on ps3 then dust514 wins...
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 908	Posted - 2014.01.04 06:46:00 - [36] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: does planet side 2 cost money to play or even get.. if it does then dust is superior in every possible way. or if it isnt for ps3... because i know little about planetside. i have been a little interested in the game but have no clue where or even how to find or get it. but if it costs money to get and must be purchased and not on ps3 then dust514 wins... It's on Pc for free and just because a game is free doesn't mean it's better most p2p games are better in fact. No Ps2 isnt on ps3 but it's coming to Ps4 early 2014. Check out youtube footage or visit their main site. *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 908	Posted - 2014.01.04 06:48:00 - [37] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: does planet side 2 cost money to play or even get.. if it does then dust is superior in every possible way. or if it isnt for ps3... because i know little about planetside. i have been a little interested in the game but have no clue where or even how to find or get it. but if it costs money to get and must be purchased and not on ps3 then dust514 wins... Planetside 2 uses the same micro transactions ust does but your paying for a game you actually like *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Serimos Haeraven The Exemplars Top Men. 562	Posted - 2014.01.04 06:59:00 - [38] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? Is there a market? Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? Also dust is going to the ps4, but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that. Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger. Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir. I have played a lot of PS2 in the past few months (while on my leave of absence because the poor state of dropships pre 1.7) and I have to say, Numnutz is right on the point here. While it was initially a really fun experience, it got old very fast because there is absolutely no real value in winning/losing. Comms all work, but true communication is often rare to find because people only want to communicate with level 140+ commanders who just yell at everyone to do what they tell them, and the battles all take place in 3 maps, that relatively all look alike. And when you win entire wars (which can last a matter of hours) on maps, it only awards you a few hundred points mainly based on how much you captured in that time of the war, and often times one faction is always overpowering another, and nearly 80% of the time it's 1 certain faction that's constantly stomping all other ones. And even though the map is giant, the actual "Battlegrounds" are often the same points even in different wars, because once the enemy reaches the other enemy and draws out the battleground area, it's usually somewhere above or below the middle of the map, and often times i have found myself fighting in the same complexes I was fighting in 3 times in a row, 3 wars ago. And when you die it doesn't really matter because you can spawn back with no reprecussions in a few seconds, so Pvt makes a point when he asserts that there isn't a "sense of loss" when you die at all, and that actually lowers replayability I've found. I never knew it was such a boring factor before Dust came around, because console shooters (or many shooters) usually give no sense of loss for deaths in multiplayer. So it took around 2 weeks to practically completely flatten my will to play more, and I had begun skilling up my tanks, but it still wasn't enough to make me feel like I wanted to keep playing. The amount of points you need to earn better turrets (and there are only 3 variants) is extremely hard to get unless you pay money, and i feel like that's a pretty lame way to make things play to win, because the best aerial vehicles are all camo'ed up and fully modded (camo requires money points) and they have obviously poored money into the game so their vehicle can be well-equipped. Well, this is pretty much my opinion on PS2 after trying it because of posts I've seen on Dust saying it's so awesome... and it really doesn't have much replay value, for me at least. Even though Dust has its issues, it still is completely unique in its "every death has a value" and the fact that you're actually fighting in planets inside of another game universe, and there's a market that we will eventually be able to sell things on. Planetside 2 kind of follows the typical shooter with a few differences in map size and player-size.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5253	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:00:00 - [39] - Quote I will say that Planetside 2 does the whole "feel of battle" better than Dust. More than once have I seen planes exploding overhead, raining flaming bits down next to a group of infantry, and each time I can't help but think, "Awesome". The classes are well defined, the vehicle combat is alright (I do love dogfights though), and it just feels more complete. Take my opinion with a truckload of salt though - well-defined classes also leave very little room for customization (guns locked to classes, each class gets an ability that no one else can use), the vehicle combat comes down to who brings the bigger blob, and the game hasn't received much, if any, new content since release, save for the countless bug fix / monetization additions. Also, they try to nickel and dime you left and right (You could play for a week and drop all of your cert points into a gun, or you could give us $5 and have it now, available to all characters on your account instead of just the one). If the two games had a baby, I'd play it with a raging hard-on and life outside of the PS3 would cease to exist. Never forget How to fix the Logi
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1776	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:02:00 - [40] - Quote Tectonious Falcon wrote: usually you'll just join in a zerg and go around in circles capping the same stuff you did yesterday, until you meet a more powerful zerg. TRUE ZERG CONSUME THE ESSENCE OF THE WEAK AND EVOLVE INTO SOMETHING STRONGER, MORE FEROCIOUS! But, ****. I must spawn more Overlords! "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara Use the Commando A-I suit and show your worth.

Eris Ernaga State Patriots 910	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:16:00 - [41] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Tectonious Falcon wrote: usually you'll just join in a zerg and go around in circles capping the same stuff you did yesterday, until you meet a more powerful zerg. TRUE ZERG CONSUME THE ESSENCE OF THE WEAK AND EVOLVE INTO SOMETHING STRONGER, MORE FEROCIOUS! But, **. I must spawn more Overlords! Hots hvnt played =/ when I get a new PC Closed Beta Vet** State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Drud Green Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 184	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:19:00 - [42] - Quote Can you spam equipment to essentially break the game in ps2? Does ps2 put you in games of 1 vs 10? I bet you can even walk up a hill in ps2............pffffffft dust is obviously better!!1!!
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 910	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:37:00 - [43] - Quote Drud Green wrote: Can you spam equipment to essentially break the game in ps2? Does ps2 put you in games of 1 vs 10? I bet you can even walk up a hill in ps2............pffffffft dust is obviously better!!1!! Why i think they're all crazed *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 312	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:08:00 - [44] - Quote Enjoy never making lasting progress in planetside 2. I also remember loving the never ending zergball meat grinders with no room for any strategy. My ideal game would be planetside's open maps (+ way more) mixed with dust's economy and gear setup. But I'd rather play a semi stale lobby shooter than a completely stale zerg v zerg yawnfest.
Ninjanomyx Imperfects Negative-Feedback 514	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:14:00 - [45] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? ***Is there a market?* Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? Also dust is going to the ps4 ("SoonGäó"), but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that. Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger. Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir.** Until DUST does what you stated your argument is invalid.
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 384	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:32:00 - [46] - Quote Dust can encompass the featureset of Planetside much, much easier than Planetside can encompass the featureset of Dust.
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 590	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:41:00 - [47] - Quote Ninjanomyx wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? ***Is there a market?* Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? Also dust is going to the ps4 ("SoonGäó"), but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that. Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger. Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir.** Until DUST does what you stated your argument is invalid. Nit picker. I suppose I should have asked if ps2 has a market as complex as dust and if so are there plans to integrate it with a galactic economy? Happy now? Dust exists in the same universe as eve, eve players can give real time orbital support to dust mercs. We fight on planets inside of this universe while space battles roar overhead. We can make our own empires as well as fight for ideals of civilizations. All of that with plans to make the connection stronger. Does ps2 offer that? No. So you can you really compare the two? Of course not, ps2 isn't an mmo sandbox, its a fps.
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 590	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:54:00 - [48] - Quote Serimos Haeraven wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? Is there a market? Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? Also dust is going to the ps4, but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that. Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger. Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir. I have played a lot of PS2 in the past few months (while on my leave of absence because the poor state of dropships pre 1.7) and I have to say, Numnutz is right on the point here. While it was initially a really fun experience, it got old very fast because there is absolutely no real value in winning/losing. Comms all work, but true communication is often rare to find because people only want to communicate with level 140+ commanders who just yell at everyone to do what they tell them, and the battles all take place in 3 maps, that relatively all look alike. And when you win entire wars (which can last a matter of hours) on maps, it only awards you a few hundred points mainly based on how much you captured in that time of the war, and often times one faction is always overpowering another, and nearly 80% of the time it's 1 certain faction that's constantly stomping all other ones. And even though the map is giant, the actual "Battlegrounds" are often the same points even in different wars, because once the enemy reaches the other enemy and draws out the battleground area, it's usually somewhere above or below the middle of the map, and often times i have found myself fighting in the same complexes I was fighting in 3 times in a row, 3 wars ago. And when you die it doesn't really matter because you can spawn back with no reprecussions in a few seconds, so Pvt makes a point when he asserts that there isn't a "sense of loss" when you die at all, and that actually lowers replayability I've found. I never knew it was such a boring factor before Dust came around, because console shooters (or many shooters) usually give no sense of loss for deaths in multiplayer. So it took around 2 weeks to practically completely flatten my will to play more, and I had begun skilling up my tanks, but it still wasn't enough to make me feel like I wanted to keep playing. The amount of points you need to earn better turrets (and there are only 3 variants) is extremely hard to get unless you pay money, and i feel like that's a pretty lame way to make things play to win, because the best aerial vehicles are all camo'ed up and fully modded (camo requires money points) and they have obviously poored money into the game so their vehicle can be well-equipped. Well, this is pretty much my opinion on PS2 after trying it because of posts I've seen on Dust saying it's so awesome... and it really doesn't have much replay value, for me at least. Even though Dust has its issues, it still is completely unique in its "every death has a value" and the fact that you're actually fighting in planets inside of another game universe, and there's a market that we will eventually be able to sell things on. Planetside 2 kind of follows the typical shooter with a few differences in map size and player-size. Yeah I had the same problem with bf4, was purtty for a week, then just became a tedious grind to get to better guns? I maxed all my vehicles and was even in the top tier of tank drivers. Mostly because I was more balsy because I knew there was no repercussions for "yoloing" why are people so scared to die in those games? Anyway got really bored with it in about two weeks and went back to dust. My time away made it even better coming back, talking fits for what seemed like hours with master kail. I could talk about dropships and shocktrooper strategies all day. That raises another point, shock troopers in bf4 were very expendable, especially because of spawn mechanics with vehicles. It was just drop after drop, no rush just mundane routine. In dust you worry about your shock troops, if they will get it done with few casualties, if you can give them air support or recon, if they can in turn help protect your asset from av, getting them out in one piece. That alone is more tactics than most fps have to offer. Shame on dust for making us think!
Ninjanomyx Imperfects Negative-Feedback 514	Posted - 2014.01.04 09:19:00 - [49] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Ninjanomyx wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? ***Is there a market?* Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? Also dust is going to the ps4 ("SoonGäó"), but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that. Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger. Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir. Until DUST does what you stated your argument is invalid. Nit picker. I suppose I should have asked if ps2 has a market as complex as dust and if so are there plans to integrate it with a galactic economy? Happy now? Dust exists in the same universe as eve, eve players can give real time orbital support to dust mercs. We fight on planets inside of this universe while space battles roar overhead. We can make our own empires as well as fight for ideals of civilizations. All of that with plans to make the connection stronger. Does ps2 offer that? No. So you can you really compare the two? Of course not, ps2 isn't an mmo sandbox, its a fps.** Replace ps2 with DUST 514 & this would be correct. Also delete the underlined, you're welcome
Baltazar Pontain Phantom Universe Task Force Die Fremdenlegion 46	Posted - 2014.01.04 09:28:00 - [50] - Quote I am not an enemy to Dust514 and I am no defender of Dust514. I have seen a lot of people that have high emotions against or for Dust514. To be honest, planetside 2 makes a lot better. And I think CCP need to get better FAST if they want to have any success. But on the other side they have another game that buffers some fails and give them financial backup. If I am honest to myself than I must say that my reason to play Dust514 is the universe, the skill system and the fact that I play also Eve Online. If i would be a pure console gamer that would have never played Eve Online I would play other games you can bet. Which gets me to the question why did they drop their PC community by not developing for PC? Sigh All evil starts with M... Management... Marketing...

TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 153	Posted - 2014.01.04 11:07:00 - [51] - Quote I was not aware planetside 2 was out...
CaveCav D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 147	Posted - 2014.01.04 11:12:00 - [52] - Quote Yeah Planeside does it all pretty much better. Tank Spam? Better Spawn Trapping? Much better Lag? Yup, Dust can manage heavy lag only in PC or due to equipment spam while Planetside has that constant laggy feel that Dust could never give me Pay2Win? Let's not even get started on that Friendly Fire? In Dust I have to go into FW to get TKed in Planetside I only have to walk and wait. Mmm...now that I think about it Dust is better, the only thing I have fun doing is fly my Schyte Dedicated Logibro, Gunner, Counter-Sniper
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution 2670	Posted - 2014.01.04 11:55:00 - [53] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Planetside 2 wins Honestly it's doing everything dust has failed or is striving to do I see PS2 as the bigger brother who outshines Dust in every way. MMO PS2 does it while Dust is a lobby shooter Fighters planetside 2 has it Ground transport vechiles PS2 has it Weapon attachments PS2 has it Working comms PS2 has it Large squads and platoons PS2 has it, have fun in your 6 man squads Dusties Stunning visuals PS2 has it Game, weapon, vechile balance PS2 has it Gun recoil that can be reduced making the weapons require more skill PS2 has it Open world instant action PS2 has it Fair not rip off micro transations PS2 has it A great growing community PS2 has it . And guess what both games started beta at around the same period but I don't see Dust winning awards, all Dust is is a future concept. Also PS2 was smart enof to start on PC and move to PS4 Dust downgraded from the PC to the PS3 and now don't offer PC players a chance at the game and guess what aren't upgrading to PS4. Haha Dust will never succeed have fun with1.8 which you still haven't got news on. And yet PS2 still manages to be a horrible game. I guess all of that stuff doesn't really count for much.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 614	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:03:00 - [54] - Quote comparing ps2 and dust is like asking which turd is shinier
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 538	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:04:00 - [55] - Quote You love the playstation 2? Great! Yes the PS2 was quite a good machine back in its day. Yes those great games on the play station 2 all the time ago.... fascinating I'm sure! Now go and play some more DUST and be a good little boy.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 614	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:06:00 - [56] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: You love the playstation 2? Great! Yes the PS2 was quite a good machine back in its day. Yes those great games on the play station 2 all the time ago.... fascinating I'm sure! Now go and play some more DUST and be a good little boy. Fail
NomaDz 2K DUTY FR33 99	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:08:00 - [57] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Planetside 2 wins Honestly it's doing everything dust has failed or is striving to do I see PS2 as the bigger brother who outshines Dust in every way. MMO PS2 does it while Dust is a lobby shooter Fighters planetside 2 has it Ground transport vechiles PS2 has it Weapon attachments PS2 has it Working comms PS2 has it Large squads and platoons PS2 has it, have fun in your 6 man squads Dusties Stunning visuals PS2 has it Game, weapon, vechile balance PS2 has it Gun recoil that can be reduced making the weapons require more skill PS2 has it Open world instant action PS2 has it Fair not rip off micro transations PS2 has it A great growing community PS2 has it . And guess what both games started beta at around the same period but I don't see Dust winning awards, all Dust is is a future concept. Also PS2 was smart enof to start on PC and move to PS4 Dust downgraded from the PC to the PS3 and now don't offer PC players a chance at the game and guess what aren't upgrading to PS4. Haha Dust will never succeed have fun with1.8 which you still haven't got news on. I put in BOLD that which it seems alot of DUST players think is PAY 2 WIN, it's not and has been the most BALANCED MICRO TRANSACTION MMO game in a while, infact most of the items which you pay for are ONLY SKINS, which is another thing we don't have even as a BPO, ohh I almost forgot CCP have REMOVED BPOs from the MARKET and PSN after telling us to rush out and buy the ELITE, VETERAN and MERCENARY PACKS and then stating that they would NOT remove BPOs then less than a month later they removed 4 BPOs. DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 538	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:10:00 - [58] - Quote Baltazar Pontain wrote: I am not an enemy to Dust514 and I am no defender of Dust514. I have seen a lot of people that have high emotions against or for Dust514. To be honest, planetside 2 makes a lot better. And I think CCP need to get better FAST if they want to have any success. But on the other side they have another game that buffers some fails and give them financial backup. If I am honest to myself than I must say that my reason to play Dust514 is the universe, the skill system and the fact that I play also Eve Online. If i would be a pure console gamer that would have never played Eve Online I would play other games you can bet. Which gets me to the question why did they drop their PC community by not developing for PC? Sigh All evil starts with M... Management... Marketing... Because they naively thought they could just waltz into the console FPS market and gobble up "the 80million ps3" users. The idea was sound assuming they could make the game that they had advertised. If 1.7 release was the original first uprising release, then by now we would probably have the total foundations with a great working game. Give it another half a year to a year from now I'm sure this game will be shaping up but because of the set backs and delays they have lost out on a lot of people and have garnered bad reputation. Even still, hundreds of people a day come to play the game and if CCP makes a good first impression they will stick around. Right now the NPE (New player experience) needs a lot of work, the matchmaker isnt great either. PVE would help, and for me the biggest gripe is the NEED for optimisations, both within the code and certain levels. Some levels are nearly unplayable before you even encounter equipment spam. One of the best levels , the one with either 2 or 3 points in the city with the beam walkways that go over the road, towards B objective. It has the supply depot underground near A. That map is always laggy with low frame rate.
NomaDz 2K DUTY FR33 99	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:20:00 - [59] - Quote CaveCav wrote: Yeah Planeside does it all pretty much better. Tank Spam? Better Spawn Trapping? Much better Lag? Yup, Dust can manage heavy lag only in PC or due to equipment spam while Planetside has that constant laggy feel that Dust could never give me Pay2Win? Let's not even get started on that Friendly Fire? In Dust I have to go into FW to get TKed in Planetside I only have to walk and wait. Mmm...now that I think about it Dust is better, the only thing I have fun doing is fly my Schyte Let is divide this based upon the TRUTH: "Tank Spam? Better" - How about MORE BALANCED in the VARIOUS ways TANKS can be destroyed compared to DUST, By Aircraft, Infantry with AV and MAX AV Units, whereas in DUST - AV appears to be seriously broken. "Spawn Trapping? Much better" NOT TRUE AT ALL , U can use MANY spawn points even a Mobile Base so this comment is total nonsence. "Lag?" Yes if you selected a Server ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD or maybe DUE TO YOUR HARDWARE that You can't even reach a steady 30fps if not ALOT more due to the FACT your PC isn't able to handle PLANETSIDE 2. BTW Have you tried it recently? CPU usage has been OPTIMISED and alot have noticed a great difference in the RIGHT DIRECTION. The Servers for PLANETSIDE 2 are REGIONAL, likewise that of BATTLEFIELD, U HARDLY GET CONNECTION LAG. "Pay2Win?" You WIN WITH SKIN COLOURS? WoW ROFL, PLANETSIDE Was VOTED as one of the most BALANCED F2P games since it ISN'T PAY 2 WIN. "Friendly Fire?" Yes true it exists, ever since Planetside 1, We are talking about a Persistant Battle Experience, and this means Friendly Fire EXISTS and is in place as it should be to emerge the player in a MORE Realistic Battlefield experience. If you don't like it there is ALWAYS CoD but please don't play the VETERAN Mode , God Forbid if U die with 1 bullet - RAGE QUIT MUCH? DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen 235	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:22:00 - [60] - Quote I like to EARN my stuff. Getting stuff without working for it pisses me off. So what I gotta wait a month or so plus grinding to get my proto scout? At least I EARNED it. 'Don't talk to strangers, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT I will never stop killing you. Basically, kind of a big deal.

NomaDz 2K DUTY FR33 99	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:23:00 - [61] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I don't see scouts on your list there. Obviously Dust is superior. PLanetside has had SCOUTS since 2003 and they could go CLOAK/Invisible like Predator Which is yet ANOTHER idea which CCP is tring hard to RIP off the Planetside DEVS, infact SCOUTS are ALOT more fun to play in PLANETSIDE DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen 235	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:38:00 - [62] - Quote Then go play P2. 'Don't talk to strangers, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT I will never stop killing you. Basically, kind of a big deal.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 217	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:43:00 - [63] - Quote No one is arguing about that dust 514 has a essenes to somthing brilliant. it has so mutch potential that it's on verge of borderline or insanety . The one problem this game has is not the lag/balance of gunst/tanks/protostomp/matchmaking or whatever issues we al can list, It's comes down to one thing only: THE JUMP FROM ACADAMY TO ENNYTHING ELSE IS TO HUGE. That's the Nr 1 priority in my mind ( feel free to disagree ) War never changes
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 734	Posted - 2014.01.04 14:19:00 - [64] - Quote ps2 - pay to win dust - not pay to win thats all anyone needs to know https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1477	Posted - 2014.01.04 14:20:00 - [65] - Quote PS2 always needed to be optimized. Now it will be. many will be playing it.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1892	Posted - 2014.01.04 15:09:00 - [66] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: PS2 is just a big circle jerk. I personally don't like it. And although Dust doesn't have many of the features it should, it will, eventually. Ha everyones willing to give Dust the benifit of the doubt and wait years for Dust ask your self where will PS2 be in a few years? Still ahead of Dust with actually fixed problems. In a few years games like dust will be the norm, ps2 (which is pure sht, good for a week) will be considered boring and dust will still be developing while companies try to create dust clones but without an actual galaxy to host their game in they won't last long and will always be ten years behind in that department. Anyway ps2 is a clusterfk bum rushing nub game, those games have been going for years so what's actually new? Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1892	Posted - 2014.01.04 15:12:00 - [67] - Quote NomaDz 2K wrote: One Eyed King wrote: I don't see scouts on your list there. Obviously Dust is superior. PLanetside has had SCOUTS since 2003 and they could go CLOAK/Invisible like Predator Which is yet ANOTHER idea which CCP is tring hard to RIP off the Planetside DEVS, infact SCOUTS are ALOT more fun to play in PLANETSIDE Lol priceless. Dust and ps2 are rips of rips of rips you sprog lol, ps2 is full of nubs who enjoy ridiculous advantages and the scouts in that game are the easiest mode. So how is that easy mode nub sht better you gimp lol. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 736	Posted - 2014.01.04 15:14:00 - [68] - Quote i played it.. loved it for about 2 week. just long enough for me to buy a years subs to it. then the following weak i realised how incredibly boring it was to attack the same places over and over again every day for no reason whatsoever. yes dust has similar elements but the fact ps2 has no goals to it at all makes if pointless to play. ps2 - capture the entire planet over a few hours (great), go for your lunch, come back an hour later and the entire planet is captured back. you feel like you wasted your time. you log on when your faction has few people online and you can't capture anything. it is litterally each faction is a different area. one is america etc, one is europe, and 1 if asia/russia etc. you cant play for the wrong faction otherwise you will never go anywhere due to lack of players at your play time. 99% of the weapons are pay to win. you can try and buy them with cert points but cert points are also your skill points so its save up for days/weeks to buy a weapon to compete but then have no points to skill up yourself leaving you still at a disadvantage to everyone who buys them and still has all their cert points to upgrade. also each map is the same every day, every battle, never changing and they have no plans to add more in the future. dust - currently a lobby shooter. sure thats kind of restrictive but im sure its in the 5/10 year plans to change this. you can get instant action any time of the day against anyone on any server. you earn money to buy gear in game and sp to skill up depending on how well you did. for the most part tiles change so almost every map is laid out different. there is only a small tile base at the moment but as we have seen ccp keep adding more over time. every fight could go either way, just because there is a squad doesn't mean they are any good. all items ingame isk/aur bought are the same. your never at a disadvantage because you have no money to pay for the latest fotm. you can do it with isk or aur. so to put it short, there is no comparison. ps2 does its battles across 3 large battlefields, dust does it over 10's of thousands of small battles in a single universe (battlefield). the only thing is dusts battles leave a lasting impact on the eve universe whereas ps2's do not. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1892	Posted - 2014.01.04 15:15:00 - [69] - Quote I'll still play ps2 on the ps4 but the potential for it to be good was ruining by bum rushing nubs on pc so its gotten boring. What makes you think it won't be an epic fail on the ps4 though considering console only players are monkeys compared to the average pc gamer? Human stupidity and exploiting nubs ruin every game that has potential to be good. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 736	Posted - 2014.01.04 15:24:00 - [70] - Quote people on consoles have a need to advance or get something good quite often to keep them hooked. cod,bf,even dust plays to this but with ps2 on the ps4 a lot of people are going to be in for a shock. its so hard to advance and compete its beyond a joke you think leaving the academy and meeting a proto squad is bad. wait till you join ps2 and run into a 100 strong p2w crowd stomping across the map and your there struggling to even upgrade your basic weapons and armor. it will happen. i have never seen a game so heavily p2w orientated https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find

Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 409	Posted - 2014.01.04 15:25:00 - [71] - Quote Planetside 2 feels like **** to play, nothing you do has and consequence because of the sheer scale of it, there is no where near the customization and leveling in PS2, PS2 has no sense of loss when you die and it is ridiculously P2W. We want cake and tea.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1894	Posted - 2014.01.04 15:29:00 - [72] - Quote Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: Planetside 2 feels like **** to play, nothing you do has and consequence because of the sheer scale of it, there is no where near the customization and leveling in PS2, PS2 has no sense of loss when you die and it is ridiculously P2W. Its pure sht, teeny boppers might think its ace but newsflash, theres nothing new about, same with dust fundamentally. No bloke will 100% aimlessly bum rush for longer than a week but sprogs will as crap like ps2 actually means something lol. Its dying on the pc where the elite play, how long will it survive on a platform inhabited by monkeys? I'm not digging at you either melchiah. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1894	Posted - 2014.01.04 15:35:00 - [73] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: people on consoles have a need to advance or get something good quite often to keep them hooked. cod,bf,even dust plays to this but with ps2 on the ps4 a lot of people are going to be in for a shock. its so hard to advance and compete its beyond a joke you think leaving the academy and meeting a proto squad is bad. wait till you join ps2 and run into a 100 strong p2w crowd stomping across the map and your there struggling to even upgrade your basic weapons and armor. it will happen. i have never seen a game so heavily p2w orientated Actually its because theres more kids on console and they need to be rewarded for EVERYTHING. Remember playing a game for a challenge? Well people these days play for treats and expects rewards simply by playing. You can't even lose games these days and can save whenever you want, they are all easy mode crap. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1477	Posted - 2014.01.04 15:46:00 - [74] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: people on consoles have a need to advance or get something good quite often to keep them hooked. cod,bf,even dust plays to this but with ps2 on the ps4 a lot of people are going to be in for a shock. its so hard to advance and compete its beyond a joke you think leaving the academy and meeting a proto squad is bad. wait till you join ps2 and run into a 100 strong p2w crowd stomping across the map and your there struggling to even upgrade your basic weapons and armor. it will happen. i have never seen a game so heavily p2w orientated Actually its because theres more kids on console and they need to be rewarded for EVERYTHING. Remember playing a game for a challenge? Well people these days play for treats and expects rewards simply by playing. You can't even lose games these days and can save whenever you want, they are all easy mode crap. Aye, just careful with the word "dying" cause no one here can say dust is KEEPING any one. It's LOSING players as well. Dust as a FPS has competition from all fps not just ps2. and on the PC it gets worse. PC being home to FPS. Dust can't even compete right now with unreal tournament 3 and how old is that game?
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1895	Posted - 2014.01.04 15:59:00 - [75] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: people on consoles have a need to advance or get something good quite often to keep them hooked. cod,bf,even dust plays to this but with ps2 on the ps4 a lot of people are going to be in for a shock. its so hard to advance and compete its beyond a joke you think leaving the academy and meeting a proto squad is bad. wait till you join ps2 and run into a 100 strong p2w crowd stomping across the map and your there struggling to even upgrade your basic weapons and armor. it will happen. i have never seen a game so heavily p2w orientated Actually its because theres more kids on console and they need to be rewarded for EVERYTHING. Remember playing a game for a challenge? Well people these days play for treats and expects rewards simply by playing. You can't even lose games these days and can save whenever you want, they are all easy mode crap. Aye, just careful with the word "dying" cause no one here can say dust is KEEPING any one. It's LOSING players as well. Dust as a FPS has competition from all fps not just ps2. and on the PC it gets worse. PC being home to FPS. Dust can't even compete right now with unreal tournament 3 and how old is that game? Do you not understand how much more relaxed ccp is compared t other game companies that spend hundreds of millions on production and logistics? Ccp doesn't actually have to compete and actually the servers show between 3 - 4k players on dust at any given time and has steadily shown that for months. People also forget the money raked in by eve sub's and micro transactions over the years but time will show whether dust will become what its supposed to be OR have all its ideas robbed and forgotten about. Seriously its not as bad as people think but time will tell if dust dies, don't be forgetting that before it was playable on any level they said WE HAVE A TEN YEAR ROADMAP, they know its not going to hit off straight away. Games are games, its not a popularity contest for companies like ccp, they waste a fraction of the money on production compared to just about every game company going who risk millions by producing, distributing and marketing just to produce games that generally get boring within a month and completed in a day. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1895	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:06:00 - [76] - Quote Time will tell if dust dies, still 8 years left in the road map and its more secure than people think. The worst that could happen is that its taken offline and worked on in their studios, which actually means it will be sorted quicker so that would actually be a blessing in disguise. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1477	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:09:00 - [77] - Quote Not saying is not gonna have a place. but it will be a niche place. hell even eve online is considered niche umong mmo players. To which "boring" have often been used to describe why eve is there. Will Dust change the face of FPS gaming? No. Cause Fps will always be moving forward with games that go beyond the BF, and COD. In large scale and small. But in 10yrs I think dust will still be struggling against established fps series, one being socom.
sabre prime The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 10	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:12:00 - [78] - Quote Planetside 2 is a more polished game. More polished to look at, more polished to play. Fun. Dust is arguably more ambitious and has a greater depth. The fun isn't really there yet though. Anyway, the biggest threat to Dust is not planetside 2. The big threat to Dust and EVE is Star Citizen. That game is being built from the ground up with the aim to integrate a space MMO RPG with future FPS-based planetary combat. I think we should be discussing that a little bit more. SC looks amazing BTW. Peace mercs. Desperate attempt to get BPOs
NomaDz 2K DUTY FR33 99	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:34:00 - [79] - Quote The level of ignorance from DUST FANBOYZ is beyond me Seems that most people here tring to put down Planetside 2 is Because of : 1. They NEVER had a High END GAMING PC to ENJOY it at High Res and GOOD FPS. 2. They may have had the High END PC BUT NEVER Joined an ACTIVE and GOOD Corp, so they have no idea whatsoever how FUN PS2 is compared to the MAJORITY of FPS Games. 3. They Don't have the PS4 and R BUTT HURT cause they won't get to play PS2 on the PS4 in ULTRA GRAPHICS - Yes that is one step up from what the PC version offers without editing an in game file. 4. They Probably believe PS2 is P2W when it isn't and even if there is a level grind it is NOTHING Compared to the grind and Unbalanced crap we have here in DUST. 5. Alot don't realise that it will be as Updated as the PC version, therefore Optimised on the PS4 due to the fact that the PS4 is the same for everyone, there are no HARDWARE Conflicts cause everyone has the same PS4, so even here there will be less problems. 6. It will have a Higher player count than DUST and i'm sure more than the PC version due to the fact every PS4 is the same and Sony can focus easier on making the game Better on the PS4 due to the fact that it will not have Hardware Conflicts , whereas on PC , people had different CPUs, Graphics Cards, RAM, Mainboards etc.... But then again I guess most of the Negative Comments towards Planetside 2 on the PS4 are probably from people which never played Planetside 1 for more than a year and haven't played PS2 after the recent Optimisations made. DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 550	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:41:00 - [80] - Quote I really don't understand anyone taking either side of this debate,as both games are terribly flawed in their own ways. Planetside 2 is a beautiful game to look at,if you can afford a $1200(if not more) gaming rig to play it on it's highest settings.And since it's not on PS4 yet,the $400 price point isn't an option yet. Also,if anyone doesn't think this game isn't one of the biggest grinds known to mankind,and that it's totally pay to win,they are fooling themselves. Dust's only crutch at this point is potential,but again,since they are "laser focused" on developing for now outdated hardware,if this game doesn't get a PS4 treatment soon,this game is dead in the water.This game will NEVER have all of the assets that CCP has been promising for the past 2+ years on the PS3,and if they keep down this 10 year roadmap plan on PS3,there's no way this game will survive.Hell,depending on how well PS4 sells,Sony won't even have the PS3 servers running 10 years from now. Both these games will be an afterthought this time next year without major improvements,something that Dust has more room to make,but will it be too late?The only hope either of these games have in the future is if Destiny,The Division,and Titanfall ALL suck(along with other next gen games,but those are probably the three big heavy hitters for this crowd).Titanfall is first out of the stable,and will be a HUGE foretelling of the future of both of these games.

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1895	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:47:00 - [81] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: I really don't understand anyone taking either side of this debate,as both games are terribly flawed in their own ways. Planetside 2 is a beautiful game to look at,if you can afford a $1200(if not more) gaming rig to play it on it's highest settings.And since it's not on PS4 yet,the $400 price point isn't an option yet. Also,if anyone doesn't think this game isn't one of the biggest grinds known to mankind,and that it's totally pay to win,they are fooling themselves. Dust's only crutch at this point is potential,but again,since they are "laser focused" on developing for now outdated hardware,if this game doesn't get a PS4 treatment soon,this game is dead in the water.This game will NEVER have all of the assets that CCP has been promising for the past 2+ years on the PS3,and if they keep down this 10 year roadmap plan on PS3,there's no way this game will survive.Hell,depending on how well PS4 sells,Sony won't even have the PS3 servers running 10 years from now. Both these games will be an afterthought this time next year without major improvements,something that Dust has more room to make,but will it be too late?The only hope either of these games have in the future is if Destiny,The Division,and Titanfall ALL suck(along with other next gen games,but those are probably the three big heavy hitters for this crowd).Titanfall is first out of the stable,and will be a HUGE foretelling of the future of both of these games. Come now, you really think the roadmap is purely on ps3. I know theres no 100% solid proof but I think its pretty clear it won't be on the ps3 for that long. The devs were asked at a fan fest if they are taking it to ps4 and the reply was "its not something we are focussing on at this time" Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1895	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:53:00 - [82] - Quote NomaDz 2K wrote: The level of ignorance from DUST FANBOYZ is beyond me Seems that most people here tring to put down Planetside 2 is Because of : 1. They NEVER had a High END GAMING PC to ENJOY it at High Res and GOOD FPS. 2. They may have had the High END PC BUT NEVER Joined an ACTIVE and GOOD Corp, so they have no idea whatsoever how FUN PS2 is compared to the MAJORITY of FPS Games. 3. They Don't have the PS4 and R BUTT HURT cause they won't get to play PS2 on the PS4 in ULTRA GRAPHICS - Yes that is one step up from what the PC version offers without editing an in game file. 4. They Probably believe PS2 is P2W when it isn't and even if there is a level grind it is NOTHING Compared to the grind and Unbalanced crap we have here in DUST. 5. Alot don't realise that it will be as Updated as the PC version, therefore Optimised on the PS4 due to the fact that the PS4 is the same for everyone, there are no HARDWARE Conflicts cause everyone has the same PS4, so even here there will be less problems. 6. It will have a Higher player count than DUST and i'm sure more than the PC version due to the fact every PS4 is the same and Sony can focus easier on making the game Better on the PS4 due to the fact that it will not have Hardware Conflicts , whereas on PC , people had different CPUs, Graphics Cards, RAM, Mainboards etc.... But then again I guess most of the Negative Comments towards Planetside 2 on the PS4 are probably from people which never played Planetside 1 for more than a year and haven't played PS2 after the recent Optimisations made. Lol, nice assumptions. I could go buy 3 ps4s comfortably right now but I'm not buying a test model, I'm waiting until the third gen ps4s but considering the spec I believe it will actually be fine and have little or no problems. And ps2 is absolute sht period. Better graphics and more players per battle doesn't make it any less pointless and zerg spamming but I will be trying it on the ps4. It may be good but I doubt it. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1895	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:54:00 - [83] - Quote sabre prime wrote: Planetside 2 is a more polished game. More polished to look at, more polished to play. Fun. Dust is arguably more ambitious and has a greater depth. The fun isn't really there yet though. Anyway, the biggest threat to Dust is not planetside 2. The big threat to Dust and EVE is Star Citizen. That game is being built from the ground up with the aim to integrate a space MMO RPG with future FPS-based planetary combat. I think we should be discussing that a little bit more. SC looks amazing BTW. Peace mercs. Indeed Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 550	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:05:00 - [84] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: I really don't understand anyone taking either side of this debate,as both games are terribly flawed in their own ways. Planetside 2 is a beautiful game to look at,if you can afford a $1200(if not more) gaming rig to play it on it's highest settings.And since it's not on PS4 yet,the $400 price point isn't an option yet. Also,if anyone doesn't think this game isn't one of the biggest grinds known to mankind,and that it's totally pay to win,they are fooling themselves. Dust's only crutch at this point is potential,but again,since they are "laser focused" on developing for now outdated hardware,if this game doesn't get a PS4 treatment soon,this game is dead in the water.This game will NEVER have all of the assets that CCP has been promising for the past 2+ years on the PS3,and if they keep down this 10 year roadmap plan on PS3,there's no way this game will survive.Hell,depending on how well PS4 sells,Sony won't even have the PS3 servers running 10 years from now. Both these games will be an afterthought this time next year without major improvements,something that Dust has more room to make,but will it be too late?The only hope either of these games have in the future is if Destiny,The Division,and Titanfall ALL suck(along with other next gen games,but those are probably the three big heavy hitters for this crowd).Titanfall is first out of the stable,and will be a HUGE foretelling of the future of both of these games. Come now, you really think the roadmap is purely on ps3. I know theres no 100% solid proof but I think its pretty clear it won't be on the ps3 for that long. The devs were asked at a fan fest if they are taking it to ps4 and the reply was "its not something we are focussing on at this time" Did you even watch EVE Vegas(which was months after Fanfest0? They clearly stated when asked about the move to PS4 that they were "laser focused" on developing on PS3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zjfBk5vEE (start watching at the 35:25 mark) Now my position is that if CCP is smart,the entire PS3 experience has been a beta FOR the PS4,otherwise,since day one of development,they have underestimated every single aspect of making the game.They would also be very stupid to not have the foresight when development started to realize that they were developing for an outdated console.If the latter is the case,which I sincerely hope it isn't,is that CCP is,and has been over their heads,and don't ever expect this game to be the game that they promised.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1895	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:10:00 - [85] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: I really don't understand anyone taking either side of this debate,as both games are terribly flawed in their own ways. Planetside 2 is a beautiful game to look at,if you can afford a $1200(if not more) gaming rig to play it on it's highest settings.And since it's not on PS4 yet,the $400 price point isn't an option yet. Also,if anyone doesn't think this game isn't one of the biggest grinds known to mankind,and that it's totally pay to win,they are fooling themselves. Dust's only crutch at this point is potential,but again,since they are "laser focused" on developing for now outdated hardware,if this game doesn't get a PS4 treatment soon,this game is dead in the water.This game will NEVER have all of the assets that CCP has been promising for the past 2+ years on the PS3,and if they keep down this 10 year roadmap plan on PS3,there's no way this game will survive.Hell,depending on how well PS4 sells,Sony won't even have the PS3 servers running 10 years from now. Both these games will be an afterthought this time next year without major improvements,something that Dust has more room to make,but will it be too late?The only hope either of these games have in the future is if Destiny,The Division,and Titanfall ALL suck(along with other next gen games,but those are probably the three big heavy hitters for this crowd).Titanfall is first out of the stable,and will be a HUGE foretelling of the future of both of these games. Come now, you really think the roadmap is purely on ps3. I know theres no 100% solid proof but I think its pretty clear it won't be on the ps3 for that long. The devs were asked at a fan fest if they are taking it to ps4 and the reply was "its not something we are focussing on at this time" Did you even watch EVE Vegas(which was months after Fanfest0? They clearly stated when asked about the move to PS4 that they were "laser focused" on developing on PS3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zjfBk5vEE (start watching at the 35:25 mark) Now my position is that if CCP is smart,the entire PS3 experience has been a beta FOR the PS4,otherwise,since day one of development,they have underestimated every single aspect of making the game.They would also be very stupid to not have the foresight when development started to realize that they were developing for an outdated console.If the latter is the case,which I sincerely hope it isn't,is that CCP is,and has been over their heads,and don't ever expect this game to be the game that they promised. Laser focussed for the time being. I know we don't know for sure but you must have a screw loose to actually think that's an absolute and definite answer. Edit: pushed reply by accident. Its very clear dust on ps3 is beta entirely. They might troll us and put it on pc though lol. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
George Moros Area 514 227	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:17:00 - [86] - Quote sabre prime wrote: Planetside 2 is a more polished game. More polished to look at, more polished to play. Fun. Dust is arguably more ambitious and has a greater depth. The fun isn't really there yet though. Anyway, the biggest threat to Dust is not planetside 2. The big threat to Dust and EVE is Star Citizen. That game is being built from the ground up with the aim to integrate a space MMO RPG with future FPS-based planetary combat. I think we should be discussing that a little bit more. SC looks amazing BTW. Peace mercs. Star Citizen's developers have yet to prove that their game will be able to deliver anything they promise. Sure, the videos look very promising (although, one wonders what kind of machine specs will be required to run it). However, I lost count of game trailers and tech demos that looked very promising but turned out to be utter crap. Considering the scope and scale they claim to aim at, combined with the fact that they are doing it from the ground up, I can only assume that the path to SC's success is littered with land mines. I'm not saying this because I wish SC to fail, I'm saying it because such ambitious projects often end up this way. Pulvereus ergo queritor.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 551	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:24:00 - [87] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: I really don't understand anyone taking either side of this debate,as both games are terribly flawed in their own ways. Planetside 2 is a beautiful game to look at,if you can afford a $1200(if not more) gaming rig to play it on it's highest settings.And since it's not on PS4 yet,the $400 price point isn't an option yet. Also,if anyone doesn't think this game isn't one of the biggest grinds known to mankind,and that it's totally pay to win,they are fooling themselves. Dust's only crutch at this point is potential,but again,since they are "laser focused" on developing for now outdated hardware,if this game doesn't get a PS4 treatment soon,this game is dead in the water.This game will NEVER have all of the assets that CCP has been promising for the past 2+ years on the PS3,and if they keep down this 10 year roadmap plan on PS3,there's no way this game will survive.Hell,depending on how well PS4 sells,Sony won't even have the PS3 servers running 10 years from now. Both these games will be an afterthought this time next year without major improvements,something that Dust has more room to make,but will it be too late?The only hope either of these games have in the future is if Destiny,The Division,and Titanfall ALL suck(along with other next gen games,but those are probably the three big heavy hitters for this crowd).Titanfall is first out of the stable,and will be a HUGE foretelling of the future of both of these games. Come now, you really think the roadmap is purely on ps3. I know theres no 100% solid proof but I think its pretty clear it won't be on the ps3 for that long. The devs were asked at a fan fest if they are taking it to ps4 and the reply was "its not something we are focussing on at this time" Did you even watch EVE Vegas(which was months after Fanfest0? They clearly stated when asked about the move to PS4 that they were "laser focused" on developing on PS3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zjfBk5vEE (start watching at the 35:25 mark) Now my position is that if CCP is smart,the entire PS3 experience has been a beta FOR the PS4,otherwise,since day one of development,they have underestimated every single aspect of making the game.They would also be very stupid to not have the foresight when development started to realize that they were developing for an outdated console.If the latter is the case,which I sincerely hope it isn't,is that CCP is,and has been over their heads,and don't ever expect this game to be the game that they promised. Laser focussed for the time being. I know we don't know for sure but you must have a screw loose to actually think that's an absolute and definite answer. Edit: pushed reply by accident. Its very clear dust on ps3 is beta entirely. They might troll us and put it on pc though lol. I'm going on what the two head guys of development have said,you are going on no facts whatsoever other than expectation,rumor,and hope. Now common sense says that they would develop for PS4,but at this point,there's no tangible facts that can confirm that,thus the "laser fucus" has to be taken as gospel until otherwise stated by the appropriate sources.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1895	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:30:00 - [88] - Quote True but do you really, seriously think its staying on ps3 for the next 8 years? Its clearly beta still even though its 'released' and I'm adamant it will go to ps4 eventually or we got trolled and it will go to pc which I'm actually hoping it will. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 551	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:41:00 - [89] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: True but do you really, seriously think its staying on ps3 for the next 8 years? Its clearly beta still even though its 'released' and I'm adamant it will go to ps4 eventually or we got trolled and it will go to pc which I'm actually hoping it will. At this point,with CCP's track record,you can't "expect" anything unless otherwise stated. My initial expectation was that yes,it would eventually end up on PS4,but let's says that it's not ready for another 2-3 years until the move,it might be too late by then as interest in the game will be gone,and the potential to attract new players will be low. Also,you never know what Sony's actual intentions will be that far down the road.Maybe they might just say,no to CCP's move,do to the fact that the game can't sustain a playerbase higher than a few thousand people online at any given time.Mind you,this is the same company that shut down Zipper after MAG sold over 1 million copies and are shutting all of their gaming servers down at the end of this month due to low playercount.Maybe they will look at CCP the same way and ask themselves why would they bother on a niche shooter that's not contributing any revenue(remember,if it's free to play,you won't need PS+).
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1895	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:45:00 - [90] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: True but do you really, seriously think its staying on ps3 for the next 8 years? Its clearly beta still even though its 'released' and I'm adamant it will go to ps4 eventually or we got trolled and it will go to pc which I'm actually hoping it will. At this point,with CCP's track record,you can't "expect" anything unless otherwise stated. My initial expectation was that yes,it would eventually end up on PS4,but let's says that it's not ready for another 2-3 years until the move,it might be too late by then as interest in the game will be gone,and the potential to attract new players will be low. Also,you never know what Sony's actual intentions will be that far down the road.Maybe they might just say,no to CCP's move,do to the fact that the game can't sustain a playerbase higher than a few thousand people online at any given time.Mind you,this is the same company that shut down Zipper after MAG sold over 1 million copies and are shutting all of their gaming servers down at the end of this month due to low playercount.Maybe they will look at CCP the same way and ask themselves why would they bother on a niche shooter that's not contributing any revenue(remember,if it's free to play,you won't need PS+). Very true, the glass is always half full to me until I know its half empty. Iv made a very reasonable question about it in feedback request simply asking for them to state whether its moving or not. I really hope they reply. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.

Donwalis BIG BAD W0LVES 8	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:56:00 - [91] - Quote you know i and a few others are getting tired of every other day someone posting about PS2 you know what if it's that great go play it and get the fuk off dust if it's so bad. why waste our time reading and yours posting . i and a few others like dust, if it dies in the future or tomorrow oh well till then if it doesn't have nothing to do with dust go fuk a duck and play PS2. and stay the hell off the dust forums. good day sir.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11543	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:07:00 - [92] - Quote Shoots a hostile tank with 18 tank shells and it laughs it off. Same tank dies to 4 infantry rockets. Tank fires a massive gun at a aircraft that just happened to be caught in a stupid situation of flying to low and getting caught in crosshairs, nothing notable in terms of damage. Aircraft fires a tank shell back down and splits tank in half. Balanced Logic of Planetside 2. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Rail Turret =// Unlocked
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 552	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:50:00 - [93] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: True but do you really, seriously think its staying on ps3 for the next 8 years? Its clearly beta still even though its 'released' and I'm adamant it will go to ps4 eventually or we got trolled and it will go to pc which I'm actually hoping it will. At this point,with CCP's track record,you can't "expect" anything unless otherwise stated. My initial expectation was that yes,it would eventually end up on PS4,but let's says that it's not ready for another 2-3 years until the move,it might be too late by then as interest in the game will be gone,and the potential to attract new players will be low. Also,you never know what Sony's actual intentions will be that far down the road.Maybe they might just say,no to CCP's move,do to the fact that the game can't sustain a playerbase higher than a few thousand people online at any given time.Mind you,this is the same company that shut down Zipper after MAG sold over 1 million copies and are shutting all of their gaming servers down at the end of this month due to low playercount.Maybe they will look at CCP the same way and ask themselves why would they bother on a niche shooter that's not contributing any revenue(remember,if it's free to play,you won't need PS+). Iv made a very reasonable question about it in feedback request simply asking for them to state whether its moving or not. I really hope they reply. Yeah,they already responded at EVE Vegas,so don't expect another response here on the forums.


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