DUST Search - Planetside 2 vrs Dust 514

Asha Starwind wrote:

Pvt Numnutz wrote:

Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? Is there a market? Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills?

How does half of those amount to any tangible benefit in gaming experience? As for the other half they're pointless or aren't implemented in the game yet.

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Also dust is going to the ps4, but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that.
Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger.

Where did you get that tidbit of info, last time I remember CCP was on record saying that it isn't pleased at all with the state of the of the and game wants DUST 514 launch ready before even considering porting to the PS4. I don't think the current build of the game is anywhere near what they have in mind.

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Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir.

I haven't seen a strawman argument like this in awhile.

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Eris Ernaga State Patriots 904	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:05:00 - [1] - Quote Planetside 2 wins Honestly it's doing everything dust has failed or is striving to do I see PS2 as the bigger brother who outshines Dust in every way. MMO PS2 does it while Dust is a lobby shooter Fighters planetside 2 has it Ground transport vechiles PS2 has it Weapon attachments PS2 has it Working comms PS2 has it Large squads and platoons PS2 has it, have fun in your 6 man squads Dusties Stunning visuals PS2 has it Game, weapon, vechile balance PS2 has it Gun recoil that can be reduced making the weapons require more skill PS2 has it Open world instant action PS2 has it Fair not rip off micro transations PS2 has it A great growing community PS2 has it . And guess what both games started beta at around the same period but I don't see Dust winning awards, all Dust is is a future concept. Also PS2 was smart enof to start on PC and move to PS4 Dust downgraded from the PC to the PS3 and now don't offer PC players a chance at the game and guess what aren't upgrading to PS4. Haha Dust will never succeed have fun with1.8 which you still haven't got news on. *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 123	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:07:00 - [2] - Quote I don't see scouts on your list there. Obviously Dust is superior. Nova knifing scout masochist. I would be a sadist, but CCP won't let me.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1312	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:10:00 - [3] - Quote Planetside 2 has also been around quite a bit longer. Give Dust time. ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 905	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:10:00 - [4] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I don't see scouts on your list there. Obviously Dust is superior. They have infiltrator which have cloak and fit their sniper role in fact they have 6 main classes not 4 *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 905	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:11:00 - [5] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Planetside 2 has also been around quite a bit longer. Give Dust time. Barely both started beta around the szme time PS1 yes. *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
BuTtHuRtPEepZ Raging Pack of Homosapiens 138	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:22:00 - [6] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Planetside 2 wins Honestly it's doing everything dust has failed or is striving to do I see PS2 as the bigger brother who outshines Dust in every way. MMO PS2 does it while Dust is a lobby shooter Fighters planetside 2 has it Ground transport vechiles PS2 has it Weapon attachments PS2 has it Working comms PS2 has it Large squads and platoons PS2 has it, have fun in your 6 man squads Dusties Stunning visuals PS2 has it Game, weapon, vechile balance PS2 has it Gun recoil that can be reduced making the weapons require more skill PS2 has it Open world instant action PS2 has it Fair not rip off micro transations PS2 has it A great growing community PS2 has it . And guess what both games started beta at around the same period but I don't see Dust winning awards, all Dust is is a future concept. Also PS2 was smart enof to start on PC and move to PS4 Dust downgraded from the PC to the PS3 and now don't offer PC players a chance at the game and guess what aren't upgrading to PS4. Haha Dust will never succeed have fun with1.8 which you still haven't got news on. >gun recoil reduced >weapons require more skill >choose one
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 577	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:25:00 - [7] - Quote Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? Is there a market? Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? Also dust is going to the ps4, but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that. Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger. Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2493	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:30:00 - [8] - Quote This is just terrible that you resort to some crap like this. You were here for the PS2 bomber and you know how annoying it was. Then you post this announcement talking about you're leaving and that you have a PS4. Declaring how much you hate Dust. Yet you keep coming back spreading your horse monkey poop around here. Take this crap to the locker room. This is attention whoring at its finest. Don't make an announcement that you're leaving then you return here using alts to post up threads and your main to talk about PS2. If you're going to leave, leave. You make yourself look stupid doing this sort of crap. Creditability out the window. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2580	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:31:00 - [9] - Quote Does PS2 have a bad@$$ looking suit like the proto commando or proto amarr logi? Proud member of the Commndo 6 <3 Commando AK.0
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 906	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:36:00 - [10] - Quote Bahaha ps2 still trumps this terrible game *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
psyanyde 39	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:37:00 - [11] - Quote Don't forget to buy station cash So you can buy them there nifty weapons you don't want to grind for
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 906	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:41:00 - [12] - Quote psyanyde wrote: Don't forget to buy station cash So you can buy them there nifty weapons you don't want to grind for Nintendo 64 called itwants its game back *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 906	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:42:00 - [13] - Quote Hahahahahaha *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 906	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:44:00 - [14] - Quote psyanyde wrote: Don't forget to buy station cash So you can buy them there nifty weapons you don't want to grind for Have fun spending a month and a week for 1 proto suit XD Oh waig "boost ahead with aurum today" *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc League of Infamy 638	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:47:00 - [15] - Quote PS2 is just a big circle jerk. I personally don't like it. And although Dust doesn't have many of the features it should, it will, eventually. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 906	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:55:00 - [16] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: PS2 is just a big circle jerk. I personally don't like it. And although Dust doesn't have many of the features it should, it will, eventually. Ha everyones willing to give Dust the benifit of the doubt and wait years for Dust ask your self where will PS2 be in a few years? Still ahead of Dust with actually fixed problems. *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3012	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:58:00 - [17] - Quote The PS2 Bomber Is Back! /o\ Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate AV is easy huh? Talk is cheap.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 906	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:01:00 - [18] - Quote Guns have recoil which requires more skill however weapon recoil can be reduced with weapon attachments this rakes more skill. Guns in Dust hzve almost no recoil and guns that do can just be compensated with AA. Sorry on PS4 hard to type perfectly. *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 27	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:07:00 - [19] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? Is there a market? Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? How does half of those amount to any tangible benefit in gaming experience? As for the other half they're pointless or aren't implemented in the game yet. Quote: Also dust is going to the ps4, but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that. Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger. Where did you get that tidbit of info, last time I remember CCP was on record saying that it isn't pleased at all with the state of the of the and game wants DUST 514 launch ready before even considering porting to the PS4. I don't think the current build of the game is anywhere near what they have in mind. Quote: Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir. I haven't seen a strawman argument like this in awhile.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 906	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:12:00 - [20] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? Is there a market? Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? How does half of those amount to any tangible benefit in gaming experience? As for the other half they're pointless or aren't implemented in the game yet. Quote: Also dust is going to the ps4, but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that. Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger. Where did you get that tidbit of info, last time I remember CCP was on record saying that it isn't pleased at all with the state of the of the and game wants DUST 514 launch ready before even considering porting to the PS4. I don't think the current build of the game is anywhere near what they have in mind. Quote: Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir. I haven't seen a strawman argument like this in awhile. They think parts of the game that don't really benifit it are Dust highlights. We all know the EVE Dust connection is weak and most experienced Eve pilots hate Dusties. You all are the scut of New Eden the ones who have to clean the **. Hell even EVE VR has it better then you guys. Lol Closed Beta Vet** State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Zion Shad Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2071	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:18:00 - [21] - Quote PS2 is failing pretty bad right now. A rumor was out that Sony thought of or tried to sell it to CCP so they could merge it in to Dust. If its so good why is no one playing anymore? Prob because no matter what you do, by the next day it is undone Co-Owner of Multiplexgaming.com Co-Host of PODSIDE on iTunes
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 907	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:20:00 - [22] - Quote Is PC really zny different? *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 829	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:34:00 - [23] - Quote If its so amazing and great, then why is it dying? Planetside 2 is a ******, grindy, pay to win snoozefest. You think grinding for a week to get a top of the line proto suit is bad? Have fun grinding for a month just to get a decent setup. Not to mention the lack of action happening around the map in PS2, usually you'll just join in a zerg and go around in circles capping the same stuff you did yesterday, until you meet a more powerful zerg. "If your enemy is equal prepare for him, if greater elude him, if weaker.... crush him"
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1470	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:34:00 - [24] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: PS2 is just a big circle jerk. I personally don't like it. And although Dust doesn't have many of the features it should, it will, eventually. Ha everyones willing to give Dust the benifit of the doubt and wait years for Dust ask your self where will PS2 be in a few years? Still ahead of Dust with actually fixed problems. PS2 in a few years? Reduced to 1 server probably like PS1 because they don't have players anymore. The devs already wanted to introduce P2W. They put it on hold FOR NOW. CCP? Nobody ever said Dust 514 is P2W and what is CCP doing? Introducing the LP Store which makes it even less P2W. Another point for Dust: Your character will still be around in 6 or 7 years. In the same game. PS2? Your character will get wiped as soon as PS3 comes around. Persistent Universe: Dust has it. Planetside 2 has server resets every now and then. Pubstomps? The same in both games. PS2 has 1 faction always dominating the other 2. In Dust we have FW and problems with matchmaking. Dust has a kickass fitting system. PS2 just has predefined classes. Dust has a kickass skill system. PS2 has some boring unlocks. Dust has some awesome updates planned. Sure they may take some time. But PS2 is basically complete. They have some minor features planned down the road, but nothing as ambitious as the stuff Dust will get. Dust has player events. And I mean real big stuff news sites care about, thanks to the connection with Eve Online. Stuff like the Molden Heath Revolution for example. PS2 has some small player events only the players care about. The PS2 universe just isn't as interesting as the Eve Universe. Eve Lore is awesome! I also don't remember that you're able to call buddys from another game to help you out in PS2. PS2 of course had these big ass battles. But they are almost a thing of the past now. Too many players already left. You only have about 2500 left on each server during peak times. These are unequally distributed between the 3 factions. So I guess the biggest stuff you can see nowadays is something like maybe 100 player battles. Big? Sure. But by far not the "Battles between thousands of players!" they promised. Also these big battles have to happen first. They're not something you just can have directly after logging in. Planetside 2 will die when its player base dies. Because the main aspect that game has going for it is the big battles. So its biggest strength is also its biggest weakness. Dust? ** that **! You can still have battles and fun with only 32 players. In the future, after they introduced PvE, you can even play it alone. So here you have it. Basically most people think Planetside 2 is better because its complete. But that's about it. You don't really have awesome stuff like new gamemodes or the likes to look forward to. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 907	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:43:00 - [25] - Quote Lie post are sad to read and hard on the eyes. *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Zirzo Valcyn Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 37	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:49:00 - [26] - Quote planetside 2 bomber > op battlefield 4 beats them both imo.. it's a throwback to bad company 2 and everything 3 wasn't.. u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
Zirzo Valcyn Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 37	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:52:00 - [27] - Quote Zion Shad wrote: PS2 is failing pretty bad right now. A rumor was out that Sony thought of or tried to sell it to CCP so they could merge it in to Dust. If its so good why is no one playing anymore? Prob because no matter what you do, by the next day it is undone yea well it's a glorified cap n hold.. thats not exactly a bad thing for ppl just wanting to forget the day b4.. dust was supposed to hook up the meta game but all it hooks up is a bunch of drama for really nothing more than a glorified scoreboard but GOD DAM battlefield 4 is good.. cant wait for SW battlefront 3... u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 585	Posted - 2014.01.04 02:55:00 - [28] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? Is there a market? Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? How does half of those amount to any tangible benefit in gaming experience? As for the other half they're pointless or aren't implemented in the game yet. I'm sorry, why do you play dust? Eris I don't understand this, leave dust, or don't. Don't bring in talk about ps2
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Intara Direct Action Caldari State 281	Posted - 2014.01.04 03:01:00 - [29] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: psyanyde wrote: Don't forget to buy station cash So you can buy them there nifty weapons you don't want to grind for Nintendo 64 called it wants its game back . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 73	Posted - 2014.01.04 03:11:00 - [30] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: PS2 is just a big circle jerk. I personally don't like it. And although Dust doesn't have many of the features it should, it will, eventually. Ha everyones willing to give Dust the benifit of the doubt and wait years for Dust ask your self where will PS2 be in a few years? Still ahead of Dust with actually fixed problems. In a few years ps2 will be dead. You'll be raving about ps3 or ps4. Dust is a marathon game. It will still be kicking for years to come, that's why I like it. The short shelf life games like ps2, cod, bf3 oh wait its bf4 now, bore me to tears after a month of play time. Yes Dust is slow to change, yes it has problems, but it is getting better. And it will continue to get better over time. Go play your stupid ps2. Once you get bored with it, dust will still be here.

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