DUST Search - Planetside 2 vrs Dust 514

Serimos Haeraven wrote:

Pvt Numnutz wrote:

Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? Is there a market? Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills?

Also dust is going to the ps4, but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that.
Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger.

Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir.

I have played a lot of PS2 in the past few months (while on my leave of absence because the poor state of dropships pre 1.7) and I have to say, Numnutz is right on the point here. While it was initially a really fun experience, it got old very fast because there is absolutely no real value in winning/losing. Comms all work, but true communication is often rare to find because people only want to communicate with level 140+ commanders who just yell at everyone to do what they tell them, and the battles all take place in 3 maps, that relatively all look alike.

And when you win entire wars (which can last a matter of hours) on maps, it only awards you a few hundred points mainly based on how much you captured in that time of the war, and often times one faction is always overpowering another, and nearly 80% of the time it's 1 certain faction that's constantly stomping all other ones. And even though the map is giant, the actual "Battlegrounds" are often the same points even in different wars, because once the enemy reaches the other enemy and draws out the battleground area, it's usually somewhere above or below the middle of the map, and often times i have found myself fighting in the same complexes I was fighting in 3 times in a row, 3 wars ago.

And when you die it doesn't really matter because you can spawn back with no reprecussions in a few seconds, so Pvt makes a point when he asserts that there isn't a "sense of loss" when you die at all, and that actually lowers replayability I've found. I never knew it was such a boring factor before Dust came around, because console shooters (or many shooters) usually give no sense of loss for deaths in multiplayer.

So it took around 2 weeks to practically completely flatten my will to play more, and I had begun skilling up my tanks, but it still wasn't enough to make me feel like I wanted to keep playing. The amount of points you need to earn better turrets (and there are only 3 variants) is extremely hard to get unless you pay money, and i feel like that's a pretty lame way to make things play to win, because the best aerial vehicles are all camo'ed up and fully modded (camo requires money points) and they have obviously poored money into the game so their vehicle can be well-equipped.

Well, this is pretty much my opinion on PS2 after trying it because of posts I've seen on Dust saying it's so awesome... and it really doesn't have much replay value, for me at least. Even though Dust has its issues, it still is completely unique in its "every death has a value" and the fact that you're actually fighting in planets inside of another game universe, and there's a market that we will eventually be able to sell things on. Planetside 2 kind of follows the typical shooter with a few differences in map size and player-size.

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ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 732	Posted - 2014.01.04 03:17:00 - [31] - Quote not this crap again. go play your amazingly boring game. dont get me wrong ps2 is awesome. or would be if it was not so dull and unrewarding https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 784	Posted - 2014.01.04 03:33:00 - [32] - Quote Does PS2 come on PS3? Awwwwwe...,snap...! Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 908	Posted - 2014.01.04 05:40:00 - [33] - Quote These comments show what a dull community does has. *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 866	Posted - 2014.01.04 05:42:00 - [34] - Quote PlanetSide 2... isn't fun though. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation 548	Posted - 2014.01.04 05:47:00 - [35] - Quote does planet side 2 cost money to play or even get.. if it does then dust is superior in every possible way. or if it isnt for ps3... because i know little about planetside. i have been a little interested in the game but have no clue where or even how to find or get it. but if it costs money to get and must be purchased and not on ps3 then dust514 wins...
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 908	Posted - 2014.01.04 06:46:00 - [36] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: does planet side 2 cost money to play or even get.. if it does then dust is superior in every possible way. or if it isnt for ps3... because i know little about planetside. i have been a little interested in the game but have no clue where or even how to find or get it. but if it costs money to get and must be purchased and not on ps3 then dust514 wins... It's on Pc for free and just because a game is free doesn't mean it's better most p2p games are better in fact. No Ps2 isnt on ps3 but it's coming to Ps4 early 2014. Check out youtube footage or visit their main site. *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 908	Posted - 2014.01.04 06:48:00 - [37] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: does planet side 2 cost money to play or even get.. if it does then dust is superior in every possible way. or if it isnt for ps3... because i know little about planetside. i have been a little interested in the game but have no clue where or even how to find or get it. but if it costs money to get and must be purchased and not on ps3 then dust514 wins... Planetside 2 uses the same micro transactions ust does but your paying for a game you actually like *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Serimos Haeraven The Exemplars Top Men. 562	Posted - 2014.01.04 06:59:00 - [38] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? Is there a market? Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? Also dust is going to the ps4, but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that. Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger. Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir. I have played a lot of PS2 in the past few months (while on my leave of absence because the poor state of dropships pre 1.7) and I have to say, Numnutz is right on the point here. While it was initially a really fun experience, it got old very fast because there is absolutely no real value in winning/losing. Comms all work, but true communication is often rare to find because people only want to communicate with level 140+ commanders who just yell at everyone to do what they tell them, and the battles all take place in 3 maps, that relatively all look alike. And when you win entire wars (which can last a matter of hours) on maps, it only awards you a few hundred points mainly based on how much you captured in that time of the war, and often times one faction is always overpowering another, and nearly 80% of the time it's 1 certain faction that's constantly stomping all other ones. And even though the map is giant, the actual "Battlegrounds" are often the same points even in different wars, because once the enemy reaches the other enemy and draws out the battleground area, it's usually somewhere above or below the middle of the map, and often times i have found myself fighting in the same complexes I was fighting in 3 times in a row, 3 wars ago. And when you die it doesn't really matter because you can spawn back with no reprecussions in a few seconds, so Pvt makes a point when he asserts that there isn't a "sense of loss" when you die at all, and that actually lowers replayability I've found. I never knew it was such a boring factor before Dust came around, because console shooters (or many shooters) usually give no sense of loss for deaths in multiplayer. So it took around 2 weeks to practically completely flatten my will to play more, and I had begun skilling up my tanks, but it still wasn't enough to make me feel like I wanted to keep playing. The amount of points you need to earn better turrets (and there are only 3 variants) is extremely hard to get unless you pay money, and i feel like that's a pretty lame way to make things play to win, because the best aerial vehicles are all camo'ed up and fully modded (camo requires money points) and they have obviously poored money into the game so their vehicle can be well-equipped. Well, this is pretty much my opinion on PS2 after trying it because of posts I've seen on Dust saying it's so awesome... and it really doesn't have much replay value, for me at least. Even though Dust has its issues, it still is completely unique in its "every death has a value" and the fact that you're actually fighting in planets inside of another game universe, and there's a market that we will eventually be able to sell things on. Planetside 2 kind of follows the typical shooter with a few differences in map size and player-size.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5253	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:00:00 - [39] - Quote I will say that Planetside 2 does the whole "feel of battle" better than Dust. More than once have I seen planes exploding overhead, raining flaming bits down next to a group of infantry, and each time I can't help but think, "Awesome". The classes are well defined, the vehicle combat is alright (I do love dogfights though), and it just feels more complete. Take my opinion with a truckload of salt though - well-defined classes also leave very little room for customization (guns locked to classes, each class gets an ability that no one else can use), the vehicle combat comes down to who brings the bigger blob, and the game hasn't received much, if any, new content since release, save for the countless bug fix / monetization additions. Also, they try to nickel and dime you left and right (You could play for a week and drop all of your cert points into a gun, or you could give us $5 and have it now, available to all characters on your account instead of just the one). If the two games had a baby, I'd play it with a raging hard-on and life outside of the PS3 would cease to exist. Never forget How to fix the Logi
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1776	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:02:00 - [40] - Quote Tectonious Falcon wrote: usually you'll just join in a zerg and go around in circles capping the same stuff you did yesterday, until you meet a more powerful zerg. TRUE ZERG CONSUME THE ESSENCE OF THE WEAK AND EVOLVE INTO SOMETHING STRONGER, MORE FEROCIOUS! But, ****. I must spawn more Overlords! "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara Use the Commando A-I suit and show your worth.

Eris Ernaga State Patriots 910	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:16:00 - [41] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Tectonious Falcon wrote: usually you'll just join in a zerg and go around in circles capping the same stuff you did yesterday, until you meet a more powerful zerg. TRUE ZERG CONSUME THE ESSENCE OF THE WEAK AND EVOLVE INTO SOMETHING STRONGER, MORE FEROCIOUS! But, **. I must spawn more Overlords! Hots hvnt played =/ when I get a new PC Closed Beta Vet** State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Drud Green Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 184	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:19:00 - [42] - Quote Can you spam equipment to essentially break the game in ps2? Does ps2 put you in games of 1 vs 10? I bet you can even walk up a hill in ps2............pffffffft dust is obviously better!!1!!
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 910	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:37:00 - [43] - Quote Drud Green wrote: Can you spam equipment to essentially break the game in ps2? Does ps2 put you in games of 1 vs 10? I bet you can even walk up a hill in ps2............pffffffft dust is obviously better!!1!! Why i think they're all crazed *Closed Beta Vet* State Patriots public - State Patriots - join for Caldari and Amarr factional warfare.
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 312	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:08:00 - [44] - Quote Enjoy never making lasting progress in planetside 2. I also remember loving the never ending zergball meat grinders with no room for any strategy. My ideal game would be planetside's open maps (+ way more) mixed with dust's economy and gear setup. But I'd rather play a semi stale lobby shooter than a completely stale zerg v zerg yawnfest.
Ninjanomyx Imperfects Negative-Feedback 514	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:14:00 - [45] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? ***Is there a market?* Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? Also dust is going to the ps4 ("SoonGäó"), but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that. Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger. Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir.** Until DUST does what you stated your argument is invalid.
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 384	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:32:00 - [46] - Quote Dust can encompass the featureset of Planetside much, much easier than Planetside can encompass the featureset of Dust.
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 590	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:41:00 - [47] - Quote Ninjanomyx wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? ***Is there a market?* Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? Also dust is going to the ps4 ("SoonGäó"), but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that. Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger. Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir.** Until DUST does what you stated your argument is invalid. Nit picker. I suppose I should have asked if ps2 has a market as complex as dust and if so are there plans to integrate it with a galactic economy? Happy now? Dust exists in the same universe as eve, eve players can give real time orbital support to dust mercs. We fight on planets inside of this universe while space battles roar overhead. We can make our own empires as well as fight for ideals of civilizations. All of that with plans to make the connection stronger. Does ps2 offer that? No. So you can you really compare the two? Of course not, ps2 isn't an mmo sandbox, its a fps.
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 590	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:54:00 - [48] - Quote Serimos Haeraven wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? Is there a market? Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? Also dust is going to the ps4, but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that. Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger. Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir. I have played a lot of PS2 in the past few months (while on my leave of absence because the poor state of dropships pre 1.7) and I have to say, Numnutz is right on the point here. While it was initially a really fun experience, it got old very fast because there is absolutely no real value in winning/losing. Comms all work, but true communication is often rare to find because people only want to communicate with level 140+ commanders who just yell at everyone to do what they tell them, and the battles all take place in 3 maps, that relatively all look alike. And when you win entire wars (which can last a matter of hours) on maps, it only awards you a few hundred points mainly based on how much you captured in that time of the war, and often times one faction is always overpowering another, and nearly 80% of the time it's 1 certain faction that's constantly stomping all other ones. And even though the map is giant, the actual "Battlegrounds" are often the same points even in different wars, because once the enemy reaches the other enemy and draws out the battleground area, it's usually somewhere above or below the middle of the map, and often times i have found myself fighting in the same complexes I was fighting in 3 times in a row, 3 wars ago. And when you die it doesn't really matter because you can spawn back with no reprecussions in a few seconds, so Pvt makes a point when he asserts that there isn't a "sense of loss" when you die at all, and that actually lowers replayability I've found. I never knew it was such a boring factor before Dust came around, because console shooters (or many shooters) usually give no sense of loss for deaths in multiplayer. So it took around 2 weeks to practically completely flatten my will to play more, and I had begun skilling up my tanks, but it still wasn't enough to make me feel like I wanted to keep playing. The amount of points you need to earn better turrets (and there are only 3 variants) is extremely hard to get unless you pay money, and i feel like that's a pretty lame way to make things play to win, because the best aerial vehicles are all camo'ed up and fully modded (camo requires money points) and they have obviously poored money into the game so their vehicle can be well-equipped. Well, this is pretty much my opinion on PS2 after trying it because of posts I've seen on Dust saying it's so awesome... and it really doesn't have much replay value, for me at least. Even though Dust has its issues, it still is completely unique in its "every death has a value" and the fact that you're actually fighting in planets inside of another game universe, and there's a market that we will eventually be able to sell things on. Planetside 2 kind of follows the typical shooter with a few differences in map size and player-size. Yeah I had the same problem with bf4, was purtty for a week, then just became a tedious grind to get to better guns? I maxed all my vehicles and was even in the top tier of tank drivers. Mostly because I was more balsy because I knew there was no repercussions for "yoloing" why are people so scared to die in those games? Anyway got really bored with it in about two weeks and went back to dust. My time away made it even better coming back, talking fits for what seemed like hours with master kail. I could talk about dropships and shocktrooper strategies all day. That raises another point, shock troopers in bf4 were very expendable, especially because of spawn mechanics with vehicles. It was just drop after drop, no rush just mundane routine. In dust you worry about your shock troops, if they will get it done with few casualties, if you can give them air support or recon, if they can in turn help protect your asset from av, getting them out in one piece. That alone is more tactics than most fps have to offer. Shame on dust for making us think!
Ninjanomyx Imperfects Negative-Feedback 514	Posted - 2014.01.04 09:19:00 - [49] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Ninjanomyx wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: Does ps2 inhabit the planets of a massive mmo space game? Does anyone use anything other than max suits? Is there a sense of loss when you die? Does it have a rich back story? Do the battles matter in the long run? Can you branch away from the three empires and make one of your own? Can you fight a war of your own ideals? ***Is there a market?* Can you call in any vehicle you want, anywhere and of any class? Is there any type of skill progression or just unlock gun at x kills? Also dust is going to the ps4 ("SoonGäó"), but ps2 is made by Sony so guess who gets to go first? I'm willing to bet that with the enormous amount of resources Sony has ps2 has a lot more devs. Might want to consider that. Oh and planner side 2 means its the second version of planet side so you know, dust is younger. Unless ps2 sprouts a massive galaxy with thousands of players in a massive sandbox universe that connects with it you cannot compare the two. Good day sir. Until DUST does what you stated your argument is invalid. Nit picker. I suppose I should have asked if ps2 has a market as complex as dust and if so are there plans to integrate it with a galactic economy? Happy now? Dust exists in the same universe as eve, eve players can give real time orbital support to dust mercs. We fight on planets inside of this universe while space battles roar overhead. We can make our own empires as well as fight for ideals of civilizations. All of that with plans to make the connection stronger. Does ps2 offer that? No. So you can you really compare the two? Of course not, ps2 isn't an mmo sandbox, its a fps.** Replace ps2 with DUST 514 & this would be correct. Also delete the underlined, you're welcome
Baltazar Pontain Phantom Universe Task Force Die Fremdenlegion 46	Posted - 2014.01.04 09:28:00 - [50] - Quote I am not an enemy to Dust514 and I am no defender of Dust514. I have seen a lot of people that have high emotions against or for Dust514. To be honest, planetside 2 makes a lot better. And I think CCP need to get better FAST if they want to have any success. But on the other side they have another game that buffers some fails and give them financial backup. If I am honest to myself than I must say that my reason to play Dust514 is the universe, the skill system and the fact that I play also Eve Online. If i would be a pure console gamer that would have never played Eve Online I would play other games you can bet. Which gets me to the question why did they drop their PC community by not developing for PC? Sigh All evil starts with M... Management... Marketing...

TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 153	Posted - 2014.01.04 11:07:00 - [51] - Quote I was not aware planetside 2 was out...
CaveCav D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 147	Posted - 2014.01.04 11:12:00 - [52] - Quote Yeah Planeside does it all pretty much better. Tank Spam? Better Spawn Trapping? Much better Lag? Yup, Dust can manage heavy lag only in PC or due to equipment spam while Planetside has that constant laggy feel that Dust could never give me Pay2Win? Let's not even get started on that Friendly Fire? In Dust I have to go into FW to get TKed in Planetside I only have to walk and wait. Mmm...now that I think about it Dust is better, the only thing I have fun doing is fly my Schyte Dedicated Logibro, Gunner, Counter-Sniper
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution 2670	Posted - 2014.01.04 11:55:00 - [53] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Planetside 2 wins Honestly it's doing everything dust has failed or is striving to do I see PS2 as the bigger brother who outshines Dust in every way. MMO PS2 does it while Dust is a lobby shooter Fighters planetside 2 has it Ground transport vechiles PS2 has it Weapon attachments PS2 has it Working comms PS2 has it Large squads and platoons PS2 has it, have fun in your 6 man squads Dusties Stunning visuals PS2 has it Game, weapon, vechile balance PS2 has it Gun recoil that can be reduced making the weapons require more skill PS2 has it Open world instant action PS2 has it Fair not rip off micro transations PS2 has it A great growing community PS2 has it . And guess what both games started beta at around the same period but I don't see Dust winning awards, all Dust is is a future concept. Also PS2 was smart enof to start on PC and move to PS4 Dust downgraded from the PC to the PS3 and now don't offer PC players a chance at the game and guess what aren't upgrading to PS4. Haha Dust will never succeed have fun with1.8 which you still haven't got news on. And yet PS2 still manages to be a horrible game. I guess all of that stuff doesn't really count for much.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 614	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:03:00 - [54] - Quote comparing ps2 and dust is like asking which turd is shinier
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 538	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:04:00 - [55] - Quote You love the playstation 2? Great! Yes the PS2 was quite a good machine back in its day. Yes those great games on the play station 2 all the time ago.... fascinating I'm sure! Now go and play some more DUST and be a good little boy.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 614	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:06:00 - [56] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: You love the playstation 2? Great! Yes the PS2 was quite a good machine back in its day. Yes those great games on the play station 2 all the time ago.... fascinating I'm sure! Now go and play some more DUST and be a good little boy. Fail
NomaDz 2K DUTY FR33 99	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:08:00 - [57] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Planetside 2 wins Honestly it's doing everything dust has failed or is striving to do I see PS2 as the bigger brother who outshines Dust in every way. MMO PS2 does it while Dust is a lobby shooter Fighters planetside 2 has it Ground transport vechiles PS2 has it Weapon attachments PS2 has it Working comms PS2 has it Large squads and platoons PS2 has it, have fun in your 6 man squads Dusties Stunning visuals PS2 has it Game, weapon, vechile balance PS2 has it Gun recoil that can be reduced making the weapons require more skill PS2 has it Open world instant action PS2 has it Fair not rip off micro transations PS2 has it A great growing community PS2 has it . And guess what both games started beta at around the same period but I don't see Dust winning awards, all Dust is is a future concept. Also PS2 was smart enof to start on PC and move to PS4 Dust downgraded from the PC to the PS3 and now don't offer PC players a chance at the game and guess what aren't upgrading to PS4. Haha Dust will never succeed have fun with1.8 which you still haven't got news on. I put in BOLD that which it seems alot of DUST players think is PAY 2 WIN, it's not and has been the most BALANCED MICRO TRANSACTION MMO game in a while, infact most of the items which you pay for are ONLY SKINS, which is another thing we don't have even as a BPO, ohh I almost forgot CCP have REMOVED BPOs from the MARKET and PSN after telling us to rush out and buy the ELITE, VETERAN and MERCENARY PACKS and then stating that they would NOT remove BPOs then less than a month later they removed 4 BPOs. DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 538	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:10:00 - [58] - Quote Baltazar Pontain wrote: I am not an enemy to Dust514 and I am no defender of Dust514. I have seen a lot of people that have high emotions against or for Dust514. To be honest, planetside 2 makes a lot better. And I think CCP need to get better FAST if they want to have any success. But on the other side they have another game that buffers some fails and give them financial backup. If I am honest to myself than I must say that my reason to play Dust514 is the universe, the skill system and the fact that I play also Eve Online. If i would be a pure console gamer that would have never played Eve Online I would play other games you can bet. Which gets me to the question why did they drop their PC community by not developing for PC? Sigh All evil starts with M... Management... Marketing... Because they naively thought they could just waltz into the console FPS market and gobble up "the 80million ps3" users. The idea was sound assuming they could make the game that they had advertised. If 1.7 release was the original first uprising release, then by now we would probably have the total foundations with a great working game. Give it another half a year to a year from now I'm sure this game will be shaping up but because of the set backs and delays they have lost out on a lot of people and have garnered bad reputation. Even still, hundreds of people a day come to play the game and if CCP makes a good first impression they will stick around. Right now the NPE (New player experience) needs a lot of work, the matchmaker isnt great either. PVE would help, and for me the biggest gripe is the NEED for optimisations, both within the code and certain levels. Some levels are nearly unplayable before you even encounter equipment spam. One of the best levels , the one with either 2 or 3 points in the city with the beam walkways that go over the road, towards B objective. It has the supply depot underground near A. That map is always laggy with low frame rate.
NomaDz 2K DUTY FR33 99	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:20:00 - [59] - Quote CaveCav wrote: Yeah Planeside does it all pretty much better. Tank Spam? Better Spawn Trapping? Much better Lag? Yup, Dust can manage heavy lag only in PC or due to equipment spam while Planetside has that constant laggy feel that Dust could never give me Pay2Win? Let's not even get started on that Friendly Fire? In Dust I have to go into FW to get TKed in Planetside I only have to walk and wait. Mmm...now that I think about it Dust is better, the only thing I have fun doing is fly my Schyte Let is divide this based upon the TRUTH: "Tank Spam? Better" - How about MORE BALANCED in the VARIOUS ways TANKS can be destroyed compared to DUST, By Aircraft, Infantry with AV and MAX AV Units, whereas in DUST - AV appears to be seriously broken. "Spawn Trapping? Much better" NOT TRUE AT ALL , U can use MANY spawn points even a Mobile Base so this comment is total nonsence. "Lag?" Yes if you selected a Server ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD or maybe DUE TO YOUR HARDWARE that You can't even reach a steady 30fps if not ALOT more due to the FACT your PC isn't able to handle PLANETSIDE 2. BTW Have you tried it recently? CPU usage has been OPTIMISED and alot have noticed a great difference in the RIGHT DIRECTION. The Servers for PLANETSIDE 2 are REGIONAL, likewise that of BATTLEFIELD, U HARDLY GET CONNECTION LAG. "Pay2Win?" You WIN WITH SKIN COLOURS? WoW ROFL, PLANETSIDE Was VOTED as one of the most BALANCED F2P games since it ISN'T PAY 2 WIN. "Friendly Fire?" Yes true it exists, ever since Planetside 1, We are talking about a Persistant Battle Experience, and this means Friendly Fire EXISTS and is in place as it should be to emerge the player in a MORE Realistic Battlefield experience. If you don't like it there is ALWAYS CoD but please don't play the VETERAN Mode , God Forbid if U die with 1 bullet - RAGE QUIT MUCH? DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen 235	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:22:00 - [60] - Quote I like to EARN my stuff. Getting stuff without working for it pisses me off. So what I gotta wait a month or so plus grinding to get my proto scout? At least I EARNED it. 'Don't talk to strangers, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT I will never stop killing you. Basically, kind of a big deal.



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