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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:09:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:PS2 is just a big circle jerk. I personally don't like it. And although Dust doesn't have many of the features it should, it will, eventually. Ha everyones willing to give Dust the benifit of the doubt and wait years for Dust ask your self where will PS2 be in a few years? Still ahead of Dust with actually fixed problems.
In a few years games like dust will be the norm, ps2 (which is pure sht, good for a week) will be considered boring and dust will still be developing while companies try to create dust clones but without an actual galaxy to host their game in they won't last long and will always be ten years behind in that department.
Anyway ps2 is a clusterfk bum rushing nub game, those games have been going for years so what's actually new?
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:12:00 -
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NomaDz 2K wrote:One Eyed King wrote:I don't see scouts on your list there. Obviously Dust is superior. PLanetside has had SCOUTS since 2003 and they could go CLOAK/Invisible like Predator Which is yet ANOTHER idea which CCP is tring hard to RIP off the Planetside DEVS, infact SCOUTS are ALOT more fun to play in PLANETSIDE
Lol priceless.
Dust and ps2 are rips of rips of rips you sprog lol, ps2 is full of nubs who enjoy ridiculous advantages and the scouts in that game are the easiest mode.
So how is that easy mode nub sht better you gimp lol.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:15:00 -
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I'll still play ps2 on the ps4 but the potential for it to be good was ruining by bum rushing nubs on pc so its gotten boring. What makes you think it won't be an epic fail on the ps4 though considering console only players are monkeys compared to the average pc gamer?
Human stupidity and exploiting nubs ruin every game that has potential to be good.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:29:00 -
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Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:Planetside 2 feels like **** to play, nothing you do has and consequence because of the sheer scale of it, there is no where near the customization and leveling in PS2, PS2 has no sense of loss when you die and it is ridiculously P2W.
Its pure sht, teeny boppers might think its ace but newsflash, theres nothing new about, same with dust fundamentally.
No bloke will 100% aimlessly bum rush for longer than a week but sprogs will as crap like ps2 actually means something lol.
Its dying on the pc where the elite play, how long will it survive on a platform inhabited by monkeys?
I'm not digging at you either melchiah.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:35:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:people on consoles have a need to advance or get something good quite often to keep them hooked. cod,bf,even dust plays to this but with ps2 on the ps4 a lot of people are going to be in for a shock. its so hard to advance and compete its beyond a joke
you think leaving the academy and meeting a proto squad is bad. wait till you join ps2 and run into a 100 strong p2w crowd stomping across the map and your there struggling to even upgrade your basic weapons and armor. it will happen. i have never seen a game so heavily p2w orientated
Actually its because theres more kids on console and they need to be rewarded for EVERYTHING.
Remember playing a game for a challenge? Well people these days play for treats and expects rewards simply by playing.
You can't even lose games these days and can save whenever you want, they are all easy mode crap.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:59:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:people on consoles have a need to advance or get something good quite often to keep them hooked. cod,bf,even dust plays to this but with ps2 on the ps4 a lot of people are going to be in for a shock. its so hard to advance and compete its beyond a joke
you think leaving the academy and meeting a proto squad is bad. wait till you join ps2 and run into a 100 strong p2w crowd stomping across the map and your there struggling to even upgrade your basic weapons and armor. it will happen. i have never seen a game so heavily p2w orientated Actually its because theres more kids on console and they need to be rewarded for EVERYTHING. Remember playing a game for a challenge? Well people these days play for treats and expects rewards simply by playing. You can't even lose games these days and can save whenever you want, they are all easy mode crap. Aye, just careful with the word "dying" cause no one here can say dust is KEEPING any one. It's LOSING players as well. Dust as a FPS has competition from all fps not just ps2. and on the PC it gets worse. PC being home to FPS. Dust can't even compete right now with unreal tournament 3 and how old is that game?
Do you not understand how much more relaxed ccp is compared t other game companies that spend hundreds of millions on production and logistics?
Ccp doesn't actually have to compete and actually the servers show between 3 - 4k players on dust at any given time and has steadily shown that for months.
People also forget the money raked in by eve sub's and micro transactions over the years but time will show whether dust will become what its supposed to be OR have all its ideas robbed and forgotten about.
Seriously its not as bad as people think but time will tell if dust dies, don't be forgetting that before it was playable on any level they said WE HAVE A TEN YEAR ROADMAP, they know its not going to hit off straight away.
Games are games, its not a popularity contest for companies like ccp, they waste a fraction of the money on production compared to just about every game company going who risk millions by producing, distributing and marketing just to produce games that generally get boring within a month and completed in a day.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.01.04 16:06:00 -
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Time will tell if dust dies, still 8 years left in the road map and its more secure than people think.
The worst that could happen is that its taken offline and worked on in their studios, which actually means it will be sorted quicker so that would actually be a blessing in disguise.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.01.04 16:47:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:I really don't understand anyone taking either side of this debate,as both games are terribly flawed in their own ways.
Planetside 2 is a beautiful game to look at,if you can afford a $1200(if not more) gaming rig to play it on it's highest settings.And since it's not on PS4 yet,the $400 price point isn't an option yet.
Also,if anyone doesn't think this game isn't one of the biggest grinds known to mankind,and that it's totally pay to win,they are fooling themselves.
Dust's only crutch at this point is potential,but again,since they are "laser focused" on developing for now outdated hardware,if this game doesn't get a PS4 treatment soon,this game is dead in the water.This game will NEVER have all of the assets that CCP has been promising for the past 2+ years on the PS3,and if they keep down this 10 year roadmap plan on PS3,there's no way this game will survive.Hell,depending on how well PS4 sells,Sony won't even have the PS3 servers running 10 years from now.
Both these games will be an afterthought this time next year without major improvements,something that Dust has more room to make,but will it be too late?The only hope either of these games have in the future is if Destiny,The Division,and Titanfall ALL suck(along with other next gen games,but those are probably the three big heavy hitters for this crowd).Titanfall is first out of the stable,and will be a HUGE foretelling of the future of both of these games.
Come now, you really think the roadmap is purely on ps3. I know theres no 100% solid proof but I think its pretty clear it won't be on the ps3 for that long.
The devs were asked at a fan fest if they are taking it to ps4 and the reply was "its not something we are focussing on at this time"
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.01.04 16:53:00 -
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NomaDz 2K wrote:The level of ignorance from DUST FANBOYZ is beyond me Seems that most people here tring to put down Planetside 2 is Because of : 1. They NEVER had a High END GAMING PC to ENJOY it at High Res and GOOD FPS. 2. They may have had the High END PC BUT NEVER Joined an ACTIVE and GOOD Corp, so they have no idea whatsoever how FUN PS2 is compared to the MAJORITY of FPS Games. 3. They Don't have the PS4 and R BUTT HURT cause they won't get to play PS2 on the PS4 in ULTRA GRAPHICS - Yes that is one step up from what the PC version offers without editing an in game file. 4. They Probably believe PS2 is P2W when it isn't and even if there is a level grind it is NOTHING Compared to the grind and Unbalanced crap we have here in DUST. 5. Alot don't realise that it will be as Updated as the PC version, therefore Optimised on the PS4 due to the fact that the PS4 is the same for everyone, there are no HARDWARE Conflicts cause everyone has the same PS4, so even here there will be less problems. 6. It will have a Higher player count than DUST and i'm sure more than the PC version due to the fact every PS4 is the same and Sony can focus easier on making the game Better on the PS4 due to the fact that it will not have Hardware Conflicts , whereas on PC , people had different CPUs, Graphics Cards, RAM, Mainboards etc.... But then again I guess most of the Negative Comments towards Planetside 2 on the PS4 are probably from people which never played Planetside 1 for more than a year and haven't played PS2 after the recent Optimisations made.
Lol, nice assumptions.
I could go buy 3 ps4s comfortably right now but I'm not buying a test model, I'm waiting until the third gen ps4s but considering the spec I believe it will actually be fine and have little or no problems.
And ps2 is absolute sht period. Better graphics and more players per battle doesn't make it any less pointless and zerg spamming but I will be trying it on the ps4. It may be good but I doubt it.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.01.04 16:54:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:Planetside 2 is a more polished game. More polished to look at, more polished to play. Fun. Dust is arguably more ambitious and has a greater depth. The fun isn't really there yet though.
Anyway, the biggest threat to Dust is not planetside 2. The big threat to Dust and EVE is Star Citizen. That game is being built from the ground up with the aim to integrate a space MMO RPG with future FPS-based planetary combat. I think we should be discussing that a little bit more. SC looks amazing BTW.
Peace mercs.
Indeed
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.01.04 17:10:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:I really don't understand anyone taking either side of this debate,as both games are terribly flawed in their own ways.
Planetside 2 is a beautiful game to look at,if you can afford a $1200(if not more) gaming rig to play it on it's highest settings.And since it's not on PS4 yet,the $400 price point isn't an option yet.
Also,if anyone doesn't think this game isn't one of the biggest grinds known to mankind,and that it's totally pay to win,they are fooling themselves.
Dust's only crutch at this point is potential,but again,since they are "laser focused" on developing for now outdated hardware,if this game doesn't get a PS4 treatment soon,this game is dead in the water.This game will NEVER have all of the assets that CCP has been promising for the past 2+ years on the PS3,and if they keep down this 10 year roadmap plan on PS3,there's no way this game will survive.Hell,depending on how well PS4 sells,Sony won't even have the PS3 servers running 10 years from now.
Both these games will be an afterthought this time next year without major improvements,something that Dust has more room to make,but will it be too late?The only hope either of these games have in the future is if Destiny,The Division,and Titanfall ALL suck(along with other next gen games,but those are probably the three big heavy hitters for this crowd).Titanfall is first out of the stable,and will be a HUGE foretelling of the future of both of these games.
Come now, you really think the roadmap is purely on ps3. I know theres no 100% solid proof but I think its pretty clear it won't be on the ps3 for that long. The devs were asked at a fan fest if they are taking it to ps4 and the reply was "its not something we are focussing on at this time" Did you even watch EVE Vegas(which was months after Fanfest0? They clearly stated when asked about the move to PS4 that they were "laser focused" on developing on PS3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zjfBk5vEE(start watching at the 35:25 mark) Now my position is that if CCP is smart,the entire PS3 experience has been a beta FOR the PS4,otherwise,since day one of development,they have underestimated every single aspect of making the game.They would also be very stupid to not have the foresight when development started to realize that they were developing for an outdated console.If the latter is the case,which I sincerely hope it isn't,is that CCP is,and has been over their heads,and don't ever expect this game to be the game that they promised.
Laser focussed for the time being.
I know we don't know for sure but you must have a screw loose to actually think that's an absolute and definite answer.
Edit: pushed reply by accident. Its very clear dust on ps3 is beta entirely. They might troll us and put it on pc though lol.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.01.04 17:30:00 -
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True but do you really, seriously think its staying on ps3 for the next 8 years?
Its clearly beta still even though its 'released' and I'm adamant it will go to ps4 eventually or we got trolled and it will go to pc which I'm actually hoping it will.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 17:45:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:True but do you really, seriously think its staying on ps3 for the next 8 years?
Its clearly beta still even though its 'released' and I'm adamant it will go to ps4 eventually or we got trolled and it will go to pc which I'm actually hoping it will.
At this point,with CCP's track record,you can't "expect" anything unless otherwise stated. My initial expectation was that yes,it would eventually end up on PS4,but let's says that it's not ready for another 2-3 years until the move,it might be too late by then as interest in the game will be gone,and the potential to attract new players will be low. Also,you never know what Sony's actual intentions will be that far down the road.Maybe they might just say,no to CCP's move,do to the fact that the game can't sustain a playerbase higher than a few thousand people online at any given time.Mind you,this is the same company that shut down Zipper after MAG sold over 1 million copies and are shutting all of their gaming servers down at the end of this month due to low playercount.Maybe they will look at CCP the same way and ask themselves why would they bother on a niche shooter that's not contributing any revenue(remember,if it's free to play,you won't need PS+).
Very true, the glass is always half full to me until I know its half empty.
Iv made a very reasonable question about it in feedback request simply asking for them to state whether its moving or not. I really hope they reply.
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