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Th3rdSun
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Posted - 2014.01.04 16:41:00 -
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I really don't understand anyone taking either side of this debate,as both games are terribly flawed in their own ways.
Planetside 2 is a beautiful game to look at,if you can afford a $1200(if not more) gaming rig to play it on it's highest settings.And since it's not on PS4 yet,the $400 price point isn't an option yet.
Also,if anyone doesn't think this game isn't one of the biggest grinds known to mankind,and that it's totally pay to win,they are fooling themselves.
Dust's only crutch at this point is potential,but again,since they are "laser focused" on developing for now outdated hardware,if this game doesn't get a PS4 treatment soon,this game is dead in the water.This game will NEVER have all of the assets that CCP has been promising for the past 2+ years on the PS3,and if they keep down this 10 year roadmap plan on PS3,there's no way this game will survive.Hell,depending on how well PS4 sells,Sony won't even have the PS3 servers running 10 years from now.
Both these games will be an afterthought this time next year without major improvements,something that Dust has more room to make,but will it be too late?The only hope either of these games have in the future is if Destiny,The Division,and Titanfall ALL suck(along with other next gen games,but those are probably the three big heavy hitters for this crowd).Titanfall is first out of the stable,and will be a HUGE foretelling of the future of both of these games.
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Th3rdSun
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Posted - 2014.01.04 17:05:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:I really don't understand anyone taking either side of this debate,as both games are terribly flawed in their own ways.
Planetside 2 is a beautiful game to look at,if you can afford a $1200(if not more) gaming rig to play it on it's highest settings.And since it's not on PS4 yet,the $400 price point isn't an option yet.
Also,if anyone doesn't think this game isn't one of the biggest grinds known to mankind,and that it's totally pay to win,they are fooling themselves.
Dust's only crutch at this point is potential,but again,since they are "laser focused" on developing for now outdated hardware,if this game doesn't get a PS4 treatment soon,this game is dead in the water.This game will NEVER have all of the assets that CCP has been promising for the past 2+ years on the PS3,and if they keep down this 10 year roadmap plan on PS3,there's no way this game will survive.Hell,depending on how well PS4 sells,Sony won't even have the PS3 servers running 10 years from now.
Both these games will be an afterthought this time next year without major improvements,something that Dust has more room to make,but will it be too late?The only hope either of these games have in the future is if Destiny,The Division,and Titanfall ALL suck(along with other next gen games,but those are probably the three big heavy hitters for this crowd).Titanfall is first out of the stable,and will be a HUGE foretelling of the future of both of these games.
Come now, you really think the roadmap is purely on ps3. I know theres no 100% solid proof but I think its pretty clear it won't be on the ps3 for that long. The devs were asked at a fan fest if they are taking it to ps4 and the reply was "its not something we are focussing on at this time"
Did you even watch EVE Vegas(which was months after Fanfest0? They clearly stated when asked about the move to PS4 that they were "laser focused" on developing on PS3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zjfBk5vEE (start watching at the 35:25 mark)
Now my position is that if CCP is smart,the entire PS3 experience has been a beta FOR the PS4,otherwise,since day one of development,they have underestimated every single aspect of making the game.They would also be very stupid to not have the foresight when development started to realize that they were developing for an outdated console.If the latter is the case,which I sincerely hope it isn't,is that CCP is,and has been over their heads,and don't ever expect this game to be the game that they promised.
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Th3rdSun
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Posted - 2014.01.04 17:24:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:I really don't understand anyone taking either side of this debate,as both games are terribly flawed in their own ways.
Planetside 2 is a beautiful game to look at,if you can afford a $1200(if not more) gaming rig to play it on it's highest settings.And since it's not on PS4 yet,the $400 price point isn't an option yet.
Also,if anyone doesn't think this game isn't one of the biggest grinds known to mankind,and that it's totally pay to win,they are fooling themselves.
Dust's only crutch at this point is potential,but again,since they are "laser focused" on developing for now outdated hardware,if this game doesn't get a PS4 treatment soon,this game is dead in the water.This game will NEVER have all of the assets that CCP has been promising for the past 2+ years on the PS3,and if they keep down this 10 year roadmap plan on PS3,there's no way this game will survive.Hell,depending on how well PS4 sells,Sony won't even have the PS3 servers running 10 years from now.
Both these games will be an afterthought this time next year without major improvements,something that Dust has more room to make,but will it be too late?The only hope either of these games have in the future is if Destiny,The Division,and Titanfall ALL suck(along with other next gen games,but those are probably the three big heavy hitters for this crowd).Titanfall is first out of the stable,and will be a HUGE foretelling of the future of both of these games.
Come now, you really think the roadmap is purely on ps3. I know theres no 100% solid proof but I think its pretty clear it won't be on the ps3 for that long. The devs were asked at a fan fest if they are taking it to ps4 and the reply was "its not something we are focussing on at this time" Did you even watch EVE Vegas(which was months after Fanfest0? They clearly stated when asked about the move to PS4 that they were "laser focused" on developing on PS3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zjfBk5vEE(start watching at the 35:25 mark) Now my position is that if CCP is smart,the entire PS3 experience has been a beta FOR the PS4,otherwise,since day one of development,they have underestimated every single aspect of making the game.They would also be very stupid to not have the foresight when development started to realize that they were developing for an outdated console.If the latter is the case,which I sincerely hope it isn't,is that CCP is,and has been over their heads,and don't ever expect this game to be the game that they promised. Laser focussed for the time being. I know we don't know for sure but you must have a screw loose to actually think that's an absolute and definite answer. Edit: pushed reply by accident. Its very clear dust on ps3 is beta entirely. They might troll us and put it on pc though lol. I'm going on what the two head guys of development have said,you are going on no facts whatsoever other than expectation,rumor,and hope.
Now common sense says that they would develop for PS4,but at this point,there's no tangible facts that can confirm that,thus the "laser fucus" has to be taken as gospel until otherwise stated by the appropriate sources.
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Th3rdSun
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Posted - 2014.01.04 17:41:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:True but do you really, seriously think its staying on ps3 for the next 8 years?
Its clearly beta still even though its 'released' and I'm adamant it will go to ps4 eventually or we got trolled and it will go to pc which I'm actually hoping it will.
At this point,with CCP's track record,you can't "expect" anything unless otherwise stated.
My initial expectation was that yes,it would eventually end up on PS4,but let's says that it's not ready for another 2-3 years until the move,it might be too late by then as interest in the game will be gone,and the potential to attract new players will be low.
Also,you never know what Sony's actual intentions will be that far down the road.Maybe they might just say,no to CCP's move,do to the fact that the game can't sustain a playerbase higher than a few thousand people online at any given time.Mind you,this is the same company that shut down Zipper after MAG sold over 1 million copies and are shutting all of their gaming servers down at the end of this month due to low playercount.Maybe they will look at CCP the same way and ask themselves why would they bother on a niche shooter that's not contributing any revenue(remember,if it's free to play,you won't need PS+).
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Th3rdSun
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Posted - 2014.01.04 18:50:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:True but do you really, seriously think its staying on ps3 for the next 8 years?
Its clearly beta still even though its 'released' and I'm adamant it will go to ps4 eventually or we got trolled and it will go to pc which I'm actually hoping it will.
At this point,with CCP's track record,you can't "expect" anything unless otherwise stated. My initial expectation was that yes,it would eventually end up on PS4,but let's says that it's not ready for another 2-3 years until the move,it might be too late by then as interest in the game will be gone,and the potential to attract new players will be low. Also,you never know what Sony's actual intentions will be that far down the road.Maybe they might just say,no to CCP's move,do to the fact that the game can't sustain a playerbase higher than a few thousand people online at any given time.Mind you,this is the same company that shut down Zipper after MAG sold over 1 million copies and are shutting all of their gaming servers down at the end of this month due to low playercount.Maybe they will look at CCP the same way and ask themselves why would they bother on a niche shooter that's not contributing any revenue(remember,if it's free to play,you won't need PS+). Iv made a very reasonable question about it in feedback request simply asking for them to state whether its moving or not. I really hope they reply.
Yeah,they already responded at EVE Vegas,so don't expect another response here on the forums.
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