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NomaDz 2K
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Posted - 2014.01.04 12:23:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:I don't see scouts on your list there. Obviously Dust is superior.
PLanetside has had SCOUTS since 2003 and they could go CLOAK/Invisible like Predator  Which is yet ANOTHER idea which CCP is tring hard to RIP off the Planetside DEVS, infact SCOUTS are ALOT more fun to play in PLANETSIDE 
DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514
CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force
Seekers of the Unseen
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Posted - 2014.01.04 12:38:00 -
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Then go play P2.
'Don't talk to strangers, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT
I will never stop killing you.
Basically, kind of a big deal.
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 12:43:00 -
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No one is arguing about that dust 514 has a essenes to somthing brilliant. it has so mutch potential that it's on verge of borderline or insanety .
The one problem this game has is not the lag/balance of gunst/tanks/protostomp/matchmaking or whatever issues we al can list, It's comes down to one thing only:
THE JUMP FROM ACADAMY TO ENNYTHING ELSE IS TO HUGE.
That's the Nr 1 priority in my mind ( feel free to disagree )
War never changes
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.01.04 14:19:00 -
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ps2 - pay to win
dust - not pay to win
thats all anyone needs to know
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2014.01.04 14:20:00 -
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PS2 always needed to be optimized. Now it will be. many will be playing it. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:09:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:PS2 is just a big circle jerk. I personally don't like it. And although Dust doesn't have many of the features it should, it will, eventually. Ha everyones willing to give Dust the benifit of the doubt and wait years for Dust ask your self where will PS2 be in a few years? Still ahead of Dust with actually fixed problems.
In a few years games like dust will be the norm, ps2 (which is pure sht, good for a week) will be considered boring and dust will still be developing while companies try to create dust clones but without an actual galaxy to host their game in they won't last long and will always be ten years behind in that department.
Anyway ps2 is a clusterfk bum rushing nub game, those games have been going for years so what's actually new?
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Minmatar and Gallente fw.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:12:00 -
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NomaDz 2K wrote:One Eyed King wrote:I don't see scouts on your list there. Obviously Dust is superior. PLanetside has had SCOUTS since 2003 and they could go CLOAK/Invisible like Predator Which is yet ANOTHER idea which CCP is tring hard to RIP off the Planetside DEVS, infact SCOUTS are ALOT more fun to play in PLANETSIDE
Lol priceless.
Dust and ps2 are rips of rips of rips you sprog lol, ps2 is full of nubs who enjoy ridiculous advantages and the scouts in that game are the easiest mode.
So how is that easy mode nub sht better you gimp lol.
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Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:14:00 -
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i played it.. loved it for about 2 week. just long enough for me to buy a years subs to it. then the following weak i realised how incredibly boring it was to attack the same places over and over again every day for no reason whatsoever. yes dust has similar elements but the fact ps2 has no goals to it at all makes if pointless to play.
ps2 - capture the entire planet over a few hours (great), go for your lunch, come back an hour later and the entire planet is captured back. you feel like you wasted your time. you log on when your faction has few people online and you can't capture anything. it is litterally each faction is a different area. one is america etc, one is europe, and 1 if asia/russia etc. you cant play for the wrong faction otherwise you will never go anywhere due to lack of players at your play time. 99% of the weapons are pay to win. you can try and buy them with cert points but cert points are also your skill points so its save up for days/weeks to buy a weapon to compete but then have no points to skill up yourself leaving you still at a disadvantage to everyone who buys them and still has all their cert points to upgrade. also each map is the same every day, every battle, never changing and they have no plans to add more in the future.
dust - currently a lobby shooter. sure thats kind of restrictive but im sure its in the 5/10 year plans to change this. you can get instant action any time of the day against anyone on any server. you earn money to buy gear in game and sp to skill up depending on how well you did. for the most part tiles change so almost every map is laid out different. there is only a small tile base at the moment but as we have seen ccp keep adding more over time. every fight could go either way, just because there is a squad doesn't mean they are any good. all items ingame isk/aur bought are the same. your never at a disadvantage because you have no money to pay for the latest fotm. you can do it with isk or aur.
so to put it short, there is no comparison. ps2 does its battles across 3 large battlefields, dust does it over 10's of thousands of small battles in a single universe (battlefield). the only thing is dusts battles leave a lasting impact on the eve universe whereas ps2's do not.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:15:00 -
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I'll still play ps2 on the ps4 but the potential for it to be good was ruining by bum rushing nubs on pc so its gotten boring. What makes you think it won't be an epic fail on the ps4 though considering console only players are monkeys compared to the average pc gamer?
Human stupidity and exploiting nubs ruin every game that has potential to be good.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:24:00 -
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people on consoles have a need to advance or get something good quite often to keep them hooked. cod,bf,even dust plays to this but with ps2 on the ps4 a lot of people are going to be in for a shock. its so hard to advance and compete its beyond a joke
you think leaving the academy and meeting a proto squad is bad. wait till you join ps2 and run into a 100 strong p2w crowd stomping across the map and your there struggling to even upgrade your basic weapons and armor. it will happen. i have never seen a game so heavily p2w orientated
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
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Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:25:00 -
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Planetside 2 feels like **** to play, nothing you do has and consequence because of the sheer scale of it, there is no where near the customization and leveling in PS2, PS2 has no sense of loss when you die and it is ridiculously P2W.
We want cake and tea.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:29:00 -
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Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:Planetside 2 feels like **** to play, nothing you do has and consequence because of the sheer scale of it, there is no where near the customization and leveling in PS2, PS2 has no sense of loss when you die and it is ridiculously P2W.
Its pure sht, teeny boppers might think its ace but newsflash, theres nothing new about, same with dust fundamentally.
No bloke will 100% aimlessly bum rush for longer than a week but sprogs will as crap like ps2 actually means something lol.
Its dying on the pc where the elite play, how long will it survive on a platform inhabited by monkeys?
I'm not digging at you either melchiah.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:35:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:people on consoles have a need to advance or get something good quite often to keep them hooked. cod,bf,even dust plays to this but with ps2 on the ps4 a lot of people are going to be in for a shock. its so hard to advance and compete its beyond a joke
you think leaving the academy and meeting a proto squad is bad. wait till you join ps2 and run into a 100 strong p2w crowd stomping across the map and your there struggling to even upgrade your basic weapons and armor. it will happen. i have never seen a game so heavily p2w orientated
Actually its because theres more kids on console and they need to be rewarded for EVERYTHING.
Remember playing a game for a challenge? Well people these days play for treats and expects rewards simply by playing.
You can't even lose games these days and can save whenever you want, they are all easy mode crap.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:46:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:people on consoles have a need to advance or get something good quite often to keep them hooked. cod,bf,even dust plays to this but with ps2 on the ps4 a lot of people are going to be in for a shock. its so hard to advance and compete its beyond a joke
you think leaving the academy and meeting a proto squad is bad. wait till you join ps2 and run into a 100 strong p2w crowd stomping across the map and your there struggling to even upgrade your basic weapons and armor. it will happen. i have never seen a game so heavily p2w orientated Actually its because theres more kids on console and they need to be rewarded for EVERYTHING. Remember playing a game for a challenge? Well people these days play for treats and expects rewards simply by playing. You can't even lose games these days and can save whenever you want, they are all easy mode crap.
Aye, just careful with the word "dying" cause no one here can say dust is KEEPING any one. It's LOSING players as well.
Dust as a FPS has competition from all fps not just ps2. and on the PC it gets worse. PC being home to FPS. Dust can't even compete right now with unreal tournament 3 and how old is that game? |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:59:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:people on consoles have a need to advance or get something good quite often to keep them hooked. cod,bf,even dust plays to this but with ps2 on the ps4 a lot of people are going to be in for a shock. its so hard to advance and compete its beyond a joke
you think leaving the academy and meeting a proto squad is bad. wait till you join ps2 and run into a 100 strong p2w crowd stomping across the map and your there struggling to even upgrade your basic weapons and armor. it will happen. i have never seen a game so heavily p2w orientated Actually its because theres more kids on console and they need to be rewarded for EVERYTHING. Remember playing a game for a challenge? Well people these days play for treats and expects rewards simply by playing. You can't even lose games these days and can save whenever you want, they are all easy mode crap. Aye, just careful with the word "dying" cause no one here can say dust is KEEPING any one. It's LOSING players as well. Dust as a FPS has competition from all fps not just ps2. and on the PC it gets worse. PC being home to FPS. Dust can't even compete right now with unreal tournament 3 and how old is that game?
Do you not understand how much more relaxed ccp is compared t other game companies that spend hundreds of millions on production and logistics?
Ccp doesn't actually have to compete and actually the servers show between 3 - 4k players on dust at any given time and has steadily shown that for months.
People also forget the money raked in by eve sub's and micro transactions over the years but time will show whether dust will become what its supposed to be OR have all its ideas robbed and forgotten about.
Seriously its not as bad as people think but time will tell if dust dies, don't be forgetting that before it was playable on any level they said WE HAVE A TEN YEAR ROADMAP, they know its not going to hit off straight away.
Games are games, its not a popularity contest for companies like ccp, they waste a fraction of the money on production compared to just about every game company going who risk millions by producing, distributing and marketing just to produce games that generally get boring within a month and completed in a day.
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Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 16:06:00 -
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Time will tell if dust dies, still 8 years left in the road map and its more secure than people think.
The worst that could happen is that its taken offline and worked on in their studios, which actually means it will be sorted quicker so that would actually be a blessing in disguise.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2014.01.04 16:09:00 -
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Not saying is not gonna have a place. but it will be a niche place. hell even eve online is considered niche umong mmo players. To which "boring" have often been used to describe why eve is there.
Will Dust change the face of FPS gaming? No. Cause Fps will always be moving forward with games that go beyond the BF, and COD. In large scale and small. But in 10yrs I think dust will still be struggling against established fps series, one being socom. |
sabre prime
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.01.04 16:12:00 -
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Planetside 2 is a more polished game. More polished to look at, more polished to play. Fun. Dust is arguably more ambitious and has a greater depth. The fun isn't really there yet though.
Anyway, the biggest threat to Dust is not planetside 2. The big threat to Dust and EVE is Star Citizen. That game is being built from the ground up with the aim to integrate a space MMO RPG with future FPS-based planetary combat. I think we should be discussing that a little bit more. SC looks amazing BTW.
Peace mercs.
Desperate attempt to get BPOs
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NomaDz 2K
DUTY FR33
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Posted - 2014.01.04 16:34:00 -
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The level of ignorance from DUST FANBOYZ is beyond me 
Seems that most people here tring to put down Planetside 2 is Because of :
1. They NEVER had a High END GAMING PC to ENJOY it at High Res and GOOD FPS.
2. They may have had the High END PC BUT NEVER Joined an ACTIVE and GOOD Corp, so they have no idea whatsoever how FUN PS2 is compared to the MAJORITY of FPS Games.
3. They Don't have the PS4 and R BUTT HURT cause they won't get to play PS2 on the PS4 in ULTRA GRAPHICS - Yes that is one step up from what the PC version offers without editing an in game file.
4. They Probably believe PS2 is P2W when it isn't and even if there is a level grind it is NOTHING Compared to the grind and Unbalanced crap we have here in DUST.
5. Alot don't realise that it will be as Updated as the PC version, therefore Optimised on the PS4 due to the fact that the PS4 is the same for everyone, there are no HARDWARE Conflicts cause everyone has the same PS4, so even here there will be less problems.
6. It will have a Higher player count than DUST and i'm sure more than the PC version due to the fact every PS4 is the same and Sony can focus easier on making the game Better on the PS4 due to the fact that it will not have Hardware Conflicts , whereas on PC , people had different CPUs, Graphics Cards, RAM, Mainboards etc....
But then again I guess most of the Negative Comments towards Planetside 2 on the PS4 are probably from people which never played Planetside 1 for more than a year and haven't played PS2 after the recent Optimisations made.
DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514
CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.01.04 16:41:00 -
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I really don't understand anyone taking either side of this debate,as both games are terribly flawed in their own ways.
Planetside 2 is a beautiful game to look at,if you can afford a $1200(if not more) gaming rig to play it on it's highest settings.And since it's not on PS4 yet,the $400 price point isn't an option yet.
Also,if anyone doesn't think this game isn't one of the biggest grinds known to mankind,and that it's totally pay to win,they are fooling themselves.
Dust's only crutch at this point is potential,but again,since they are "laser focused" on developing for now outdated hardware,if this game doesn't get a PS4 treatment soon,this game is dead in the water.This game will NEVER have all of the assets that CCP has been promising for the past 2+ years on the PS3,and if they keep down this 10 year roadmap plan on PS3,there's no way this game will survive.Hell,depending on how well PS4 sells,Sony won't even have the PS3 servers running 10 years from now.
Both these games will be an afterthought this time next year without major improvements,something that Dust has more room to make,but will it be too late?The only hope either of these games have in the future is if Destiny,The Division,and Titanfall ALL suck(along with other next gen games,but those are probably the three big heavy hitters for this crowd).Titanfall is first out of the stable,and will be a HUGE foretelling of the future of both of these games.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 16:47:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:I really don't understand anyone taking either side of this debate,as both games are terribly flawed in their own ways.
Planetside 2 is a beautiful game to look at,if you can afford a $1200(if not more) gaming rig to play it on it's highest settings.And since it's not on PS4 yet,the $400 price point isn't an option yet.
Also,if anyone doesn't think this game isn't one of the biggest grinds known to mankind,and that it's totally pay to win,they are fooling themselves.
Dust's only crutch at this point is potential,but again,since they are "laser focused" on developing for now outdated hardware,if this game doesn't get a PS4 treatment soon,this game is dead in the water.This game will NEVER have all of the assets that CCP has been promising for the past 2+ years on the PS3,and if they keep down this 10 year roadmap plan on PS3,there's no way this game will survive.Hell,depending on how well PS4 sells,Sony won't even have the PS3 servers running 10 years from now.
Both these games will be an afterthought this time next year without major improvements,something that Dust has more room to make,but will it be too late?The only hope either of these games have in the future is if Destiny,The Division,and Titanfall ALL suck(along with other next gen games,but those are probably the three big heavy hitters for this crowd).Titanfall is first out of the stable,and will be a HUGE foretelling of the future of both of these games.
Come now, you really think the roadmap is purely on ps3. I know theres no 100% solid proof but I think its pretty clear it won't be on the ps3 for that long.
The devs were asked at a fan fest if they are taking it to ps4 and the reply was "its not something we are focussing on at this time"
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 16:53:00 -
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NomaDz 2K wrote:The level of ignorance from DUST FANBOYZ is beyond me Seems that most people here tring to put down Planetside 2 is Because of : 1. They NEVER had a High END GAMING PC to ENJOY it at High Res and GOOD FPS. 2. They may have had the High END PC BUT NEVER Joined an ACTIVE and GOOD Corp, so they have no idea whatsoever how FUN PS2 is compared to the MAJORITY of FPS Games. 3. They Don't have the PS4 and R BUTT HURT cause they won't get to play PS2 on the PS4 in ULTRA GRAPHICS - Yes that is one step up from what the PC version offers without editing an in game file. 4. They Probably believe PS2 is P2W when it isn't and even if there is a level grind it is NOTHING Compared to the grind and Unbalanced crap we have here in DUST. 5. Alot don't realise that it will be as Updated as the PC version, therefore Optimised on the PS4 due to the fact that the PS4 is the same for everyone, there are no HARDWARE Conflicts cause everyone has the same PS4, so even here there will be less problems. 6. It will have a Higher player count than DUST and i'm sure more than the PC version due to the fact every PS4 is the same and Sony can focus easier on making the game Better on the PS4 due to the fact that it will not have Hardware Conflicts , whereas on PC , people had different CPUs, Graphics Cards, RAM, Mainboards etc.... But then again I guess most of the Negative Comments towards Planetside 2 on the PS4 are probably from people which never played Planetside 1 for more than a year and haven't played PS2 after the recent Optimisations made.
Lol, nice assumptions.
I could go buy 3 ps4s comfortably right now but I'm not buying a test model, I'm waiting until the third gen ps4s but considering the spec I believe it will actually be fine and have little or no problems.
And ps2 is absolute sht period. Better graphics and more players per battle doesn't make it any less pointless and zerg spamming but I will be trying it on the ps4. It may be good but I doubt it.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 16:54:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:Planetside 2 is a more polished game. More polished to look at, more polished to play. Fun. Dust is arguably more ambitious and has a greater depth. The fun isn't really there yet though.
Anyway, the biggest threat to Dust is not planetside 2. The big threat to Dust and EVE is Star Citizen. That game is being built from the ground up with the aim to integrate a space MMO RPG with future FPS-based planetary combat. I think we should be discussing that a little bit more. SC looks amazing BTW.
Peace mercs.
Indeed
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Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 17:05:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:I really don't understand anyone taking either side of this debate,as both games are terribly flawed in their own ways.
Planetside 2 is a beautiful game to look at,if you can afford a $1200(if not more) gaming rig to play it on it's highest settings.And since it's not on PS4 yet,the $400 price point isn't an option yet.
Also,if anyone doesn't think this game isn't one of the biggest grinds known to mankind,and that it's totally pay to win,they are fooling themselves.
Dust's only crutch at this point is potential,but again,since they are "laser focused" on developing for now outdated hardware,if this game doesn't get a PS4 treatment soon,this game is dead in the water.This game will NEVER have all of the assets that CCP has been promising for the past 2+ years on the PS3,and if they keep down this 10 year roadmap plan on PS3,there's no way this game will survive.Hell,depending on how well PS4 sells,Sony won't even have the PS3 servers running 10 years from now.
Both these games will be an afterthought this time next year without major improvements,something that Dust has more room to make,but will it be too late?The only hope either of these games have in the future is if Destiny,The Division,and Titanfall ALL suck(along with other next gen games,but those are probably the three big heavy hitters for this crowd).Titanfall is first out of the stable,and will be a HUGE foretelling of the future of both of these games.
Come now, you really think the roadmap is purely on ps3. I know theres no 100% solid proof but I think its pretty clear it won't be on the ps3 for that long. The devs were asked at a fan fest if they are taking it to ps4 and the reply was "its not something we are focussing on at this time"
Did you even watch EVE Vegas(which was months after Fanfest0? They clearly stated when asked about the move to PS4 that they were "laser focused" on developing on PS3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zjfBk5vEE
(start watching at the 35:25 mark)
Now my position is that if CCP is smart,the entire PS3 experience has been a beta FOR the PS4,otherwise,since day one of development,they have underestimated every single aspect of making the game.They would also be very stupid to not have the foresight when development started to realize that they were developing for an outdated console.If the latter is the case,which I sincerely hope it isn't,is that CCP is,and has been over their heads,and don't ever expect this game to be the game that they promised.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 17:10:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:I really don't understand anyone taking either side of this debate,as both games are terribly flawed in their own ways.
Planetside 2 is a beautiful game to look at,if you can afford a $1200(if not more) gaming rig to play it on it's highest settings.And since it's not on PS4 yet,the $400 price point isn't an option yet.
Also,if anyone doesn't think this game isn't one of the biggest grinds known to mankind,and that it's totally pay to win,they are fooling themselves.
Dust's only crutch at this point is potential,but again,since they are "laser focused" on developing for now outdated hardware,if this game doesn't get a PS4 treatment soon,this game is dead in the water.This game will NEVER have all of the assets that CCP has been promising for the past 2+ years on the PS3,and if they keep down this 10 year roadmap plan on PS3,there's no way this game will survive.Hell,depending on how well PS4 sells,Sony won't even have the PS3 servers running 10 years from now.
Both these games will be an afterthought this time next year without major improvements,something that Dust has more room to make,but will it be too late?The only hope either of these games have in the future is if Destiny,The Division,and Titanfall ALL suck(along with other next gen games,but those are probably the three big heavy hitters for this crowd).Titanfall is first out of the stable,and will be a HUGE foretelling of the future of both of these games.
Come now, you really think the roadmap is purely on ps3. I know theres no 100% solid proof but I think its pretty clear it won't be on the ps3 for that long. The devs were asked at a fan fest if they are taking it to ps4 and the reply was "its not something we are focussing on at this time" Did you even watch EVE Vegas(which was months after Fanfest0? They clearly stated when asked about the move to PS4 that they were "laser focused" on developing on PS3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zjfBk5vEE(start watching at the 35:25 mark) Now my position is that if CCP is smart,the entire PS3 experience has been a beta FOR the PS4,otherwise,since day one of development,they have underestimated every single aspect of making the game.They would also be very stupid to not have the foresight when development started to realize that they were developing for an outdated console.If the latter is the case,which I sincerely hope it isn't,is that CCP is,and has been over their heads,and don't ever expect this game to be the game that they promised.
Laser focussed for the time being.
I know we don't know for sure but you must have a screw loose to actually think that's an absolute and definite answer.
Edit: pushed reply by accident. Its very clear dust on ps3 is beta entirely. They might troll us and put it on pc though lol.
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Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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Area 514
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Posted - 2014.01.04 17:17:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:Planetside 2 is a more polished game. More polished to look at, more polished to play. Fun. Dust is arguably more ambitious and has a greater depth. The fun isn't really there yet though.
Anyway, the biggest threat to Dust is not planetside 2. The big threat to Dust and EVE is Star Citizen. That game is being built from the ground up with the aim to integrate a space MMO RPG with future FPS-based planetary combat. I think we should be discussing that a little bit more. SC looks amazing BTW.
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Star Citizen's developers have yet to prove that their game will be able to deliver anything they promise. Sure, the videos look very promising (although, one wonders what kind of machine specs will be required to run it). However, I lost count of game trailers and tech demos that looked very promising but turned out to be utter crap. Considering the scope and scale they claim to aim at, combined with the fact that they are doing it from the ground up, I can only assume that the path to SC's success is littered with land mines. I'm not saying this because I wish SC to fail, I'm saying it because such ambitious projects often end up this way.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 17:24:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:I really don't understand anyone taking either side of this debate,as both games are terribly flawed in their own ways.
Planetside 2 is a beautiful game to look at,if you can afford a $1200(if not more) gaming rig to play it on it's highest settings.And since it's not on PS4 yet,the $400 price point isn't an option yet.
Also,if anyone doesn't think this game isn't one of the biggest grinds known to mankind,and that it's totally pay to win,they are fooling themselves.
Dust's only crutch at this point is potential,but again,since they are "laser focused" on developing for now outdated hardware,if this game doesn't get a PS4 treatment soon,this game is dead in the water.This game will NEVER have all of the assets that CCP has been promising for the past 2+ years on the PS3,and if they keep down this 10 year roadmap plan on PS3,there's no way this game will survive.Hell,depending on how well PS4 sells,Sony won't even have the PS3 servers running 10 years from now.
Both these games will be an afterthought this time next year without major improvements,something that Dust has more room to make,but will it be too late?The only hope either of these games have in the future is if Destiny,The Division,and Titanfall ALL suck(along with other next gen games,but those are probably the three big heavy hitters for this crowd).Titanfall is first out of the stable,and will be a HUGE foretelling of the future of both of these games.
Come now, you really think the roadmap is purely on ps3. I know theres no 100% solid proof but I think its pretty clear it won't be on the ps3 for that long. The devs were asked at a fan fest if they are taking it to ps4 and the reply was "its not something we are focussing on at this time" Did you even watch EVE Vegas(which was months after Fanfest0? They clearly stated when asked about the move to PS4 that they were "laser focused" on developing on PS3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zjfBk5vEE(start watching at the 35:25 mark) Now my position is that if CCP is smart,the entire PS3 experience has been a beta FOR the PS4,otherwise,since day one of development,they have underestimated every single aspect of making the game.They would also be very stupid to not have the foresight when development started to realize that they were developing for an outdated console.If the latter is the case,which I sincerely hope it isn't,is that CCP is,and has been over their heads,and don't ever expect this game to be the game that they promised. Laser focussed for the time being. I know we don't know for sure but you must have a screw loose to actually think that's an absolute and definite answer. Edit: pushed reply by accident. Its very clear dust on ps3 is beta entirely. They might troll us and put it on pc though lol.
I'm going on what the two head guys of development have said,you are going on no facts whatsoever other than expectation,rumor,and hope.
Now common sense says that they would develop for PS4,but at this point,there's no tangible facts that can confirm that,thus the "laser fucus" has to be taken as gospel until otherwise stated by the appropriate sources.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 17:30:00 -
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True but do you really, seriously think its staying on ps3 for the next 8 years?
Its clearly beta still even though its 'released' and I'm adamant it will go to ps4 eventually or we got trolled and it will go to pc which I'm actually hoping it will.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 17:41:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:True but do you really, seriously think its staying on ps3 for the next 8 years?
Its clearly beta still even though its 'released' and I'm adamant it will go to ps4 eventually or we got trolled and it will go to pc which I'm actually hoping it will.
At this point,with CCP's track record,you can't "expect" anything unless otherwise stated.
My initial expectation was that yes,it would eventually end up on PS4,but let's says that it's not ready for another 2-3 years until the move,it might be too late by then as interest in the game will be gone,and the potential to attract new players will be low.
Also,you never know what Sony's actual intentions will be that far down the road.Maybe they might just say,no to CCP's move,do to the fact that the game can't sustain a playerbase higher than a few thousand people online at any given time.Mind you,this is the same company that shut down Zipper after MAG sold over 1 million copies and are shutting all of their gaming servers down at the end of this month due to low playercount.Maybe they will look at CCP the same way and ask themselves why would they bother on a niche shooter that's not contributing any revenue(remember,if it's free to play,you won't need PS+).
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Posted - 2014.01.04 17:45:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:True but do you really, seriously think its staying on ps3 for the next 8 years?
Its clearly beta still even though its 'released' and I'm adamant it will go to ps4 eventually or we got trolled and it will go to pc which I'm actually hoping it will.
At this point,with CCP's track record,you can't "expect" anything unless otherwise stated. My initial expectation was that yes,it would eventually end up on PS4,but let's says that it's not ready for another 2-3 years until the move,it might be too late by then as interest in the game will be gone,and the potential to attract new players will be low. Also,you never know what Sony's actual intentions will be that far down the road.Maybe they might just say,no to CCP's move,do to the fact that the game can't sustain a playerbase higher than a few thousand people online at any given time.Mind you,this is the same company that shut down Zipper after MAG sold over 1 million copies and are shutting all of their gaming servers down at the end of this month due to low playercount.Maybe they will look at CCP the same way and ask themselves why would they bother on a niche shooter that's not contributing any revenue(remember,if it's free to play,you won't need PS+).
Very true, the glass is always half full to me until I know its half empty.
Iv made a very reasonable question about it in feedback request simply asking for them to state whether its moving or not. I really hope they reply.
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Minmatar and Gallente fw.
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