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Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1015	Posted - 2014.01.03 15:24:00 - [1] - Quote This is a simple pool for the community to give CCP a general idea of what you thought of the event through a poll. http://strawpoll.me/960929 click link, check all that apply and vote. Which did you vote for and why? 12 Days of Dust Event (December 25th GÇô January 5th) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=127895 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1733	Posted - 2014.01.03 15:29:00 - [2] - Quote i liked the event and thought the rewards were decent. If i didn't already like the game and login daily, this wouldnt have changed that. Not a big enough event. Minmatar Assault. Confused on what weapons i should use :/
Mogar Bobac Algintal Core Gallente Federation 77	Posted - 2014.01.03 15:35:00 - [3] - Quote Althought I enjoyed it I would have rather just had a permenant santa hat or some decorations in my quarters
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1015	Posted - 2014.01.03 15:38:00 - [4] - Quote It might be interesting to know how much SP/how long you been playing. Maybe it was good for newer players but for vets it might have been more a bitter vet syndrome? 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1015	Posted - 2014.01.03 15:43:00 - [5] - Quote Mogar Bobac wrote: Althought I enjoyed it I would have rather just had a permenant santa hat or some decorations in my quarters I think they would like this too but they just don't have a system in place to skin things or only allow certain items during certain periods of times. Hopefully 2014 is the year they make some major upgrades to the system. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
Rozencrutz89 From The Mist 20	Posted - 2014.01.03 16:08:00 - [6] - Quote Event was a good idea but all the items in it were kinda underwhelming overall. https://www.youtube.com/user/Rozencrutz89 Dust Vids http://rozencrutz89.blogspot.com/ Blog on FW Matches
Saxbrin Shain Ivory Vanguard 160	Posted - 2014.01.03 16:22:00 - [7] - Quote It's an interesting event, but I was expecting something hilariously impractical but appropriate to the season GÇö like the Snowball Launchers in EVE GÇö instead of a barely-useful number of existing items. 12 of something doesn't last very long, IMMORTALS; From the Sands to the Stars We fight until we die. Then we fight some more.
CMDR Girr Vendetta Reactionary Force 0	Posted - 2014.01.03 16:25:00 - [8] - Quote My main issue is, that often I only have time for a few matches at night, and sometimes, those few matches were massacres, where we were pinned at the red line. This prevented me many times from getting anything. Even though I was #1 on my team many times, because of the loss, I missed out on almost every day of rewards. I still think the kill or resupply or team spawn counting is the best way to go. This gives every player a chance to get items if they are good or at least prolific. Commander Girr. Doom, etc, etc.
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Public Disorder. 297	Posted - 2014.01.03 16:46:00 - [9] - Quote Basically what other said as far as the event being better probably for newer players. I found most of the items underwhelming and 12 really does go by fast. If it was intended for newer players, I see them losing out on this equipment most matches before even finding out the potential of said equipment. It kept me logging in each day and since I have an active corp was easy to grab it and go. Though, honestly, without the event, I would have just logged in for the free consecutive points and been on my way over this break. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1015	Posted - 2014.01.03 17:07:00 - [10] - Quote Saxbrin Shain wrote: It's an interesting event, but I was expecting something hilariously impractical but appropriate to the season GÇö like the Snowball Launchers in EVE GÇö instead of a barely-useful number of existing items. 12 of something doesn't last very long, Could have been a bit more interesting but they have the concept down. 12 even if a play on words only last good plays 2-4 match and new players maybe 1-2. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]

RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 598	Posted - 2014.01.03 17:15:00 - [11] - Quote Event: A significant (important, notable, or momentous) occurrence or happening. Where was the significant occurrence? Hell, when one those special contracts show up that placed you in a game where everyone deploys with dumbfiring swarmlaunchers that actually shoot snowballs and santa/showmannen dropsuits and you get a goodie for every kill you make? That's what I call an event, but yeah it's too much work so they don't do that. This was not even worth the name 'event'.
Dr Accipitradea Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 27	Posted - 2014.01.03 17:33:00 - [12] - Quote Rewards were very inconsistent. The Quafe and Black Eagle suits? Cool, but they've already been given out as rewards, which diminishes their uniqueness for people who earned them previously and makes them less special for people who get them now. Kinda surprised they haven't implemented an achievement or medals system where they can give out cosmetic and moral rewards that aren't items that can be acquired from the store for a few AUR.
Veka Kari The Phoenix Federation 23	Posted - 2014.01.03 17:40:00 - [13] - Quote I didnt even notice it was going on. MUST READ (All Suits): The Logi Code. You depend on it.
We are 138 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 486	Posted - 2014.01.03 18:07:00 - [14] - Quote It was not good enough to get me go log on. I'm so burned out that I can't play any more. Waiting for new content..... Like real new content not just a few guns, more like different game modes or god f u cking forbid pve. Eleven months is long enough for me to be bashing my head against the wall.
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1016	Posted - 2014.01.03 18:47:00 - [15] - Quote RKKR wrote: Event: A significant (important, notable, or momentous) occurrence or happening. Where was the significant occurrence? Hell, when one those special contracts show up that placed you in a game where everyone deploys with dumbfiring swarmlaunchers that actually shoot snowballs and santa/snowmen/(squadleaders as Rudolph) dropsuits and you get a goodie for every kill you make? That's what I call an event, but yeah it's too much work so they don't do that. This was not even worth the name 'event'. Well it could have at least been a bit better had it been rewards of like 50+ of an item or something like that. We all know they have better stuff to fix then create Christmas themed things. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1928	Posted - 2014.01.03 19:35:00 - [16] - Quote This was my thoughts on the subject. A handful of low-level gear or a gob of suits I have a bunch of already isn't all that cool. tl;dr for the link: A reward that'd inspire me to log on would be a couple of militia suits that have different colors than normal. Not even intricate color changes. A palette swap would suffice. No fancy balance breaking gear. Just some warbarge bling would be enough. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Alex Desmond Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 8	Posted - 2014.01.03 19:50:00 - [17] - Quote I really like the concept of the event and it somewhat encouraged me to play a quick match but i feel like it should have been tiered rewards. e.g. day x: 1 win = aur std assault rifle, 2 wins = aur adv assault rifle, 3 wins = aur pro assault rifle. This way we are more encouraged to play a few rounds and we actually use some of the rewards. "Scan Attempt Prevented"... Music to my ears.
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1018	Posted - 2014.01.04 00:28:00 - [18] - Quote Veka Kari wrote: I didnt even notice it was going on. didn't you read the news when you log in? 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 618	Posted - 2014.01.04 04:18:00 - [19] - Quote This is an awesome idea. I'd love to see more of these kinds of constructive initiatives - I'll take the results of this feedback and present it to the relevant teams for you guys. :) CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian


CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 618	Posted - 2014.01.04 04:19:00 - [20] - Quote Brush Master wrote: Mogar Bobac wrote: Althought I enjoyed it I would have rather just had a permenant santa hat or some decorations in my quarters I think they would like this too but they just don't have a system in place to skin things or only allow certain items during certain periods of times. Hopefully 2014 is the year they make some major upgrades to the system. We'd love to - but the backend for this just doesn't exist at the moment. It's definitely something we want to do and will be looking at putting systems in place for in the future. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian


Veka Kari The Phoenix Federation 25	Posted - 2014.01.04 04:42:00 - [21] - Quote I am always logged in. So no, I didnt get the news. Aparently I also am subscribed to the newsletter, but still not subscribed to getting it. I did put in a request to get it fixed, but it never got answered, and never showed up on my requests. So, I have quite litterally given up on submitting tickets, requests, information and just look for it myself. As for any content ideas... You want an event? 1) Free for all, all players spawn in an enclosed arena, vehicles are prohibited, Light weapons are prohibited, heavy weapons are prohibited. You spawn in a light suit, with a scrambler pistol and nova knives. 2) Drop ship Demo, All players are given a 'special' selection during this even from the vehicle menu, The Demolition Drop Ship. They are speced out to have militia blasters with 1 damage mod and an active scanner. Two players are the gunners and one is the pilot, the team that clones out first loses. 3) King of the rock pile, A single wide area indestructible nano-hive, which reps a 75 HP (armor and shields), and regerates at 20% ammo is placed on top of a hill/rock pile. The players within the range of the nano hive get the benefits of the nano-hive. Winners are the team who still has clones left. 4) Squad enforcement, a match is created with room for only 12 people. All players are forced into a single squad, and placed on the largest map. The clone count is only 36 per team. When you spawn in you spawn in 25m behind (opposite direction of the opponents) the rest of your squad. Winners are the team with clones left. Take those for a test drive. MUST READ (All Suits): The Logi Code. You depend on it.
jordy mack Ultramarine Corp 80	Posted - 2014.01.04 04:43:00 - [22] - Quote How do those percentages work if u can choose multiple options? Less QQ more PewPew
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1071	Posted - 2014.01.04 04:55:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: This is an awesome idea. I'd love to see more of these kinds of constructive initiatives - I'll take the results of this feedback and present it to the relevant teams for you guys. :) What I think would be a nice event, (or at least a bit unique) would be to give out some new content through battlefield initiative using 100% salvage. Dev sponsored teams given new content, and mercs fighting them can "earn" the bonus content through special battles. The most obvious flaw is covering timezones. Though this could be minimized through the use of Proxy organizations, such as crewing a special Corp for the event and recruiting players to run the gear, and allowing them to earn bonus gear for joining the Dev side. KRRROOOOOOM
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 2046	Posted - 2014.01.04 05:10:00 - [24] - Quote I logged on a few days and did one match where I wouldn't have otherwise, but only because I thought there was the chance that doing all 12 days would net me something nice. Nothing that interesting so far. Maybe day 12 will give us something nice, like a 1 day active booster or something. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 371	Posted - 2014.01.04 05:18:00 - [25] - Quote Events are always good. My feedback on this one however - Players should actually feel like they are taking part in something, as in, doing something differently. Players who skip past the 'news feed' when logging in and jump right into games, would literally be participating in the event without even realizing it. For future events, I think it'd be a great idea to utilize the "Other Contracts" option. As in having event specific battles, so that everyone in the game is consciously participating in the event. And then the prizes. I think the prizes should be awesome, but the risks should be high as well. In my imaginary 'event', players would play special battles found in "Other Contracts" during the time of the event. The battles would not reward ISK, but have really awesome gear rewards, like unique prototype variants. There would be a somewhat decent participation prize, so you wouldn't leave any game empty handed, but winners would get something really awesome (don't know what, perhaps choosing one of several unique items... vehicles etc). I think an event like this would be competitive, engaging, risky, and above all, FUN! Who cares what some sniper has to say
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 394	Posted - 2014.01.04 05:38:00 - [26] - Quote This didn't seem like a event. As event has something happen in it. Something big. I only got 3 or 4 days in,so it didn't grab me much. I liked the Black Eagle Event, kind of. Everyone was running black eagles. THAT was an event. But 1 suit for 5 kills? C'mon. ..
Rusty Shallows 676	Posted - 2014.01.04 06:30:00 - [27] - Quote Thanks for the poll. In y book any promotion without unintended consequences is a good one. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1020	Posted - 2014.01.04 06:31:00 - [28] - Quote We are 138 wrote: It was not good enough to get me go log on. I'm so burned out that I can't play any more. Waiting for new content..... Like real new content not just a few guns, more like different game modes or god f u cking forbid pve. Eleven months is long enough for me to be bashing my head against the wall. definitely understand this. Every time I have to login, I have the mic glitch which many do right now where you have to login, activate a channel voice coms, logout, then back in again. Am reminded this entire holiday season that a year later and large bugs still exist. I'm a vet and if not for the fact, I don't see how anyone just trying the game would accept the bugs but CCP knows this and I'm just waiting to hear what their plans will be in 2014. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1020	Posted - 2014.01.04 06:34:00 - [29] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: This was my thoughts on the subject. A handful of low-level gear or a gob of suits I have a bunch of already isn't all that cool. tl;dr for the link: A reward that'd inspire me to log on would be a couple of militia suits that have different colors than normal. Not even intricate color changes. A palette swap would suffice. No fancy balance breaking gear. Just some warbarge bling would be enough. Agreed, it was better than nothing but I think the point of most of it all is, if it not unique or valuable then small quantities will be viewed as an underwhelming reward. You should take a second and do the poll, not much to read, 6 options to choose from, basically 3 questions within the poll. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
Aqil Aegivan The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 251	Posted - 2014.01.04 06:36:00 - [30] - Quote For something that ran at a time when few staff were available and which was holiday themed this event seemed reasonable. Not exciting or really ground breaking in any way but I don't think it was supposed to be a highpoint for events anyway. I'm not sure the win requirement made a lot of sense here, given the meta level and amount of gear handed out. Requiring a win can be a good mechanic for the right event but here it was disproportionate to the reward. It also suffered due to the usual issue where one in every ten modules CCP gives away is useful to any given player. Extra SP or ISK should be part of every event where we're getting a shotgun blast of random crap. Don't like giving out SP and ISK? Then design more elegant events than "today you get a few of a randomly selected module".

Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1020	Posted - 2014.01.04 06:53:00 - [31] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: This is an awesome idea. I'd love to see more of these kinds of constructive initiatives - I'll take the results of this feedback and present it to the relevant teams for you guys. :) Thanks for stopping by Ya me too, I would like to see the initiative come from the team(s) that actually does the rewards and marketing. Actually that might be a good dev blog on how those teams take the data from an event and analyze it. Was it an effective event? how do you determine what players might like? the process of creating the event, the challenges, what you can and can not do? etc. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Public Disorder. 306	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:03:00 - [32] - Quote As far as getting isk as a reward, I think once we get the player market (whenever that is) we'll feel less underwhelmed because we'll have the ability to convert what we cannot use into isk or if we have a corp where we know dedicated players will use a piece of equipment more than me, tradesies. I get specialist weapons in types that I know I'll never use, but wish I could give to a corpmate who could use all he could get. Other than that, I agree with Aqil in that the win requirement made it very hard for some people. On the days my corp was on, this was an easy requirement, but when alone (2 days), I found it difficult and wishing I could hurry up and win one so I could turn the game off. I'm not a new player so I imagine for newer players, this was just frustrating and even more reason to not continue playing, especially during the holidays. Next time, a 'minimum number of games' might be a better option. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 606	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:16:00 - [33] - Quote This event would have been 250% more awesome if it had been tied into the same achieve->award system as the new player tutorial. "Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)" GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 3983	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:17:00 - [34] - Quote A majority of people saying the rewards are **** are sorely mistaken. I don't think people understand that not everything can be prototype rewards and just for them. These rewards are genuinely good and people asking for new items in this event don't have a good grasp on reality.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 7432	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:20:00 - [35] - Quote Rozencrutz89 wrote: Event was a good idea but all the items in it were kinda underwhelming overall. This. But, well, free stuff. Some of the stuff was great tbqh - the black eagles and quafe suits were very nice. But things like enhanced shield extenders, which aren't used much by anyone, aren't of much use. Perhaps it's simply an issue with how useful some of the items are in game. Few people use fused locus grenades and enhanced shield extenders. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Lorhak Gannarsein 1118	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:40:00 - [36] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: A majority of people saying the rewards are **** are sorely mistaken. I don't think people understand that not everything can be prototype rewards and just for them. These rewards are genuinely good and people asking for new items in this event don't have a good grasp on reality. Although maybe they could have skipped the ADV shield extenders for something else. I remember the Hacked Drop Uplinks I got from the Chromosome Merc Pack (or whatever it was) were incredibly useful, considering that I didn't have any SP to spare on the things. PRO tanker and proud. Number of PRO-turret HAVs killed w/ my permahardened MLT Blaster Gunny - 2 (so far xD)
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2626	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:02:00 - [37] - Quote Free stuff is nice, but unless I'm already using something a batch of twelve isn't going to induce me to alter a current fitting to equip it, much less delete one to create a new one.
Zunist Tae Single Player Opps 15	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:22:00 - [38] - Quote Full time college student on Christmas break (read broke with nothing better to do), had me logging all of my tons each day looking for a win. Cool for you I spent more time in Dust. Bad for you... The prizes may come in useful but they all look like AUR items to me. Which means i'll never have more than 12, so meh. I've been over exposed to Proto stomping and am really close to being burn out on Dust. Not one of the items is permanent. Not looking for amazing items, but a bpo of some sort to remember the event would have been awesome. (Maybe a Christmas colored frontline? A "Rudolph" laser rifle... something militia grade and festivish...) Came really close to missing the event, and wouldn't have even noticed or been upset...
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1794	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:36:00 - [39] - Quote Personally, I'd rather see reward items named iin different ways to make them special, even if they are only ADV items. Like a heavy suit with something santa implied, or a scout suit in reference to an elf. Maybe even a LAV with references to reindeer. And then modules could be called different christmas decorations or something. What about santas vs elves where it would be kills in heavy suits vs kills in scout suits? Some creativity would be nice. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 467	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:51:00 - [40] - Quote Veka Kari wrote: I am always logged in. So no, I didnt get the news. Aparently I also am subscribed to the newsletter, but still not subscribed to getting it. I did put in a request to get it fixed, but it never got answered, and never showed up on my requests. So, I have quite litterally given up on submitting tickets, requests, information and just look for it myself. As for any content ideas... You want an event? 1) Free for all, all players spawn in an enclosed arena, vehicles are prohibited, Light weapons are prohibited, heavy weapons are prohibited. You spawn in a light suit, with a scrambler pistol and nova knives. 2) Drop ship Demo, All players are given a 'special' selection during this even from the vehicle menu, The Demolition Drop Ship. They are speced out to have militia blasters with 1 damage mod and an active scanner. Two players are the gunners and one is the pilot, the team that clones out first loses. 3) King of the rock pile, A single wide area indestructible nano-hive, which reps a 75 HP (armor and shields), and regerates at 20% ammo is placed on top of a hill/rock pile. The players within the range of the nano hive get the benefits of the nano-hive. Winners are the team who still has clones left. 4) Squad enforcement, a match is created with room for only 12 people. All players are forced into a single squad, and placed on the largest map. The clone count is only 36 per team. When you spawn in you spawn in 25m behind (opposite direction of the opponents) the rest of your squad. Winners are the team with clones left. Take those for a test drive. Veka, you just earned my vote. How about a commando LolRena?: Free for all, everyone spawns in a1 commandos, fitted with plasma cannons and nova knives, the Plc has 1 shot, and it's proto tier. The NK's do diminishing damage as you charge them, but the range increases, and punching out a full charge does 300% melee. Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) I have a God, His name is Dakka.

Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1179	Posted - 2014.01.04 09:19:00 - [41] - Quote If you're going to make it so that we can have santa hats in the future I want all sorts of other religious gear too: Kwanzaa Candles Dreidels Statue of Kali Incan Sacrificial Altar Flying Spagetti Monster Plushy Cathulu Cult Robe Mobius Brand Cough SyrupGäó (Now in new "not proven to cause blindness" formula) Really, if this game is going to have items associated with any one religion in it doesn't it seem foolish not to be a little more inclusive. Or how about this, we leave out the whole Christmas themed thing and just make a good game. Really though my merc wants a Flying Spagetti Monster Plushy for his quarters. Fun > Realism
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1020	Posted - 2014.01.04 09:42:00 - [42] - Quote jordy mack wrote: How do those percentages work if u can choose multiple options? The percentage is overall poll. When I'm done polling maybe a few days afterwards I will post results here since there are basically 3 key areas that people can give their opinion on and will compares those 3 keys questions. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
jordy mack Ultramarine Corp 81	Posted - 2014.01.04 09:49:00 - [43] - Quote Brush Master wrote: jordy mack wrote: How do those percentages work if u can choose multiple options? The percentage is overall poll. When I'm done polling maybe a few days afterwards I will post results here since there are basically 3 key areas that people can give their opinion on and will compares those 3 keys questions. So if everyone checks every box will it be like 20% in each column? I don't know what u mean. Less QQ more PewPew
Ealphea Aeeagol BadAssClones 0	Posted - 2014.01.04 10:40:00 - [44] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: If you're going to make it so that we can have santa hats in the future I want all sorts of other religious gear too: Kwanzaa Candles Dreidels Statue of Kali Incan Sacrificial Altar Flying Spagetti Monster Plushy Cathulu Cult Robe Mobius Brand Cough SyrupGäó (Now in new "not proven to cause blindness" formula) Really, if this game is going to have items associated with any one religion in it doesn't it seem foolish not to be a little more inclusive. Or how about this, we leave out the whole Christmas themed thing and just make a good game. Really though my merc wants a Flying Spagetti Monster Plushy for his quarters. Christmas is more like a cutural thing nowadays than a religious thing. Santa has, besides the origin of his name, nothing religious about him. CCP have added nothing religous, nor referenced to the religious origins, of this event. I think you are overly sensitive. Also, CCP are not the government. There is no seperation of church and game developer. So even if they did add some reference to the baby jesus or the christian background to the event, there's nothing stopping them. Would you really be upset if they did something for chinese new year? Or for the islamic new year?
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 468	Posted - 2014.01.04 10:50:00 - [45] - Quote I voted for underwhelming. Sorry but 12 of advanced gear is not much. It wont even save me much isk for the very few things i will use from the rewards.
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 468	Posted - 2014.01.04 10:51:00 - [46] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: If you're going to make it so that we can have santa hats in the future I want all sorts of other religious gear too: Kwanzaa Candles Dreidels Statue of Kali Incan Sacrificial Altar Flying Spagetti Monster Plushy Cathulu Cult Robe Mobius Brand Cough SyrupGäó (Now in new "not proven to cause blindness" formula) Really, if this game is going to have items associated with any one religion in it doesn't it seem foolish not to be a little more inclusive. Or how about this, we leave out the whole Christmas themed thing and just make a good game. Really though my merc wants a Flying Spagetti Monster Plushy for his quarters. I want a giant statue to Cathulu!
TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 153	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:17:00 - [47] - Quote Since I play solo, I don't have a squad. There was one day it was lose after lose after lose after lose after lose.. Not a single win was won.
Draco Cerberus BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 646	Posted - 2014.01.04 15:31:00 - [48] - Quote Although the rewards seem ok, I understood the delivery of awards was set for the end of the event, not the middle. I seem to also recall that I won more matches than just 1 every day I played, and while I understand a win was necessary, I don't understand why I only received 2 different items rather than several different items. LogiGod earns his pips
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1020	Posted - 2014.01.04 15:46:00 - [49] - Quote jordy mack wrote: Brush Master wrote: jordy mack wrote: How do those percentages work if u can choose multiple options? The percentage is overall poll. When I'm done polling maybe a few days afterwards I will post results here since there are basically 3 key areas that people can give their opinion on and will compares those 3 keys questions. So if everyone checks every box will it be like 20% in each column? I don't know what u mean. the percentage on the polls doesn't really matter, the top three answers are basically what we will be looking at. you have The rewards were underwhelming vs The rewards were decent Encouraged me to login vs Did not encourage me to login Liked the Event vs Did not even notice/care that it was going on We can see overall which was the top opinion and we will also look at each question individually a couple day after the event ends. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
Zunist Tae Single Player Opps 15	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:32:00 - [50] - Quote Draco Cerberus wrote: Although the rewards seem ok, I understood the delivery of awards was set for the end of the event, not the middle. I seem to also recall that I won more matches than just 1 every day I played, and while I understand a win was necessary, I don't understand why I only received 2 different items rather than several different items. Rewards for this event haven't been passed out yet. Most likely you received items for the last event, RR, CR trials.

Sgt Buttscratch 1235	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:32:00 - [51] - Quote I voted for "The rewards were underwhelming" and "Did not encourage me to login". The rewards were not only a joke but actually kinda insulting. the made me feel that the little discussion CCP had included the sentence "** em and feed em beans". Day:1 Queef scout gk.0 suits, great if you have gallente scout suits a level 5. Otherwise 100% useless Day 2: Hacked Nanohive: ya... a *** nanohive, not a good nanohive. Day 3: Pyrus STANDARD assault rifle.... tef fuh? Day 4: Heavy Mauler suits.... not to bad on this one but still...meh Day: 5: Fused locus grenades, 12 of them...yup Day 6: ADV armor plates..boring Day 7: Standard repair tool almost useless. Day 8 Black eagle suits, 1 bullet away from dead, useless suits Day 9: An aurum shield extender shown with the armor icon /facepalm Day 10: ADV submachine gun, one of the better ones, still didn't log in. Day 11: A scanner I can avoid with my gallente assault suit. Day 12: who gives a duck. All in all not only was non of this good, but there was no surprises. No red and white santa suit for the Heavies, no green and red elf suit for the scouts, just absolute lack luster bullshit. Showed me they don't want to have to do any work here, if it aint creating fancy ingame menus or fancy pages for their website they don't want to know. Apparent by effort in the 12 days of dust event page versus the rewards given. I say next time don't even bother. I would have just ran an X SP/ISK/LP event. simple as. 1st day 10% extra SP/ISK/LP through to the 12th day 120% SP/ISK/LP, raised the cap to 120% its usual. Given all maps snow for these 12 days and said merry ***** xmas. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1020	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:26:00 - [52] - Quote Aqil Aegivan wrote: For something that ran at a time when few staff were available and which was holiday themed this event seemed reasonable. Not exciting or really ground breaking in any way but I don't think it was supposed to be a highpoint for events anyway. I'm not sure the win requirement made a lot of sense here, given the meta level and amount of gear handed out. Requiring a win can be a good mechanic for the right event but here it was disproportionate to the reward. It also suffered due to the usual issue where one in every ten modules CCP gives away is useful to any given player. Extra SP or ISK should be part of every event where we're getting a shotgun blast of random crap. Don't like giving out SP and ISK? Then design more elegant events than "today you get a few of a randomly selected module". I agree, for what was given, simply logging in should have been enough. Maybe login gets you xx item, plus win xx matches and you will get a surprise item for that day. Larger quantity or rare official weapons would have made this event really nice but like you said it feels like a last ditch effort to through something together for the sake of having something. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1932	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:33:00 - [53] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: A majority of people saying the rewards are **** are sorely mistaken. I don't think people understand that not everything can be prototype rewards and just for them. These rewards are genuinely good and people asking for new items in this event don't have a good grasp on reality. No one's saying that these items are bad, it's just more that they arent all that interesting. If they were looking for rewards that would inspire somebody who's been around for longer than a couple weeks to log on then the sort of items they were giving out didn't do the trick. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Bat Cow Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:37:00 - [54] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Brush Master wrote: Mogar Bobac wrote: Althought I enjoyed it I would have rather just had a permenant santa hat or some decorations in my quarters I think they would like this too but they just don't have a system in place to skin things or only allow certain items during certain periods of times. Hopefully 2014 is the year they make some major upgrades to the system. We'd love to - but the backend for this just doesn't exist at the moment. It's definitely something we want to do and will be looking at putting systems in place for in the future. A couple of items were good (the Quafe, black eagle, and Heavy fitting), many were average or subpar (but this is free stuff from a free game, so I'm not going to complain too much), but I was hoping for more unique items. I understand if the backend wasn't in place for room decorations, but a holiday themed drop suit would've been really cool. Something like a red and white "Santa/candy cane" theme; a green, red, and white "elf" theme; or even a special snowflake color scheme (light blue/white) suit or vehicle would have been awesome. I could even see it as a final reward- get all the items from each of the 12 days, and then get the bonus suit. That would have made me more excited to make sure I log on each day. Of course, there's one day left, so I can still hope. Moo.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1499	Posted - 2014.01.04 20:57:00 - [55] - Quote I'm cool with the event overall, I think it was good in that the requirements were small and didn't encourage massive protostomping like the last one. If I were to offer some constructive criticism, I think most of the items, like the enhanced extenders and pyrus AR were a little too weak. I think they all should have been ADV or better no-skill items, at an absolute minimum. Personally though, I think they all should have been different colored suits (shouldn't be that hard to do, I would think), or, failing that, all of them should have been prefit suits like the heavy was, all with no skill prerquisites. Make the first day 12 of some weak suit, then day two, 11 of a slighty better suit, day three, 10 of an even better one, etc, until on the last day you get a no-skill-required full proto suit. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
lithkul devant Legions of Infinite Dominion 134	Posted - 2014.01.04 21:21:00 - [56] - Quote Well, the 12 days each day having a different item to win was okay, but it also encouraged me to only login and play 1-4 matches each day, why play unneeded matches during the holiday times? Also...I was hoping for a special holiday reward for you know actually sticking with Dust 514 it kind of let down not to get one. Mind you the passive boosters for 50% off was very nice (Finally they did this, about damn time) They also had a package for 75% off which was decent, but then again that isn't a holiday themed gift or truly special. I guess what I'm saying is, I wanted an actual gift like you get on Christmas, the other stuff was just nice fluff, but still just fluff.
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation 654	Posted - 2014.01.04 21:38:00 - [57] - Quote Sorry overwhelming, i mean really? black eagles after we just had 50? random aurum stuff that we don't even need or use? i'm hoping tomorrow is going to be a respec or something worthy... *Assassination is my thing.*
Kahn Zo Furyan Alpha 180	Posted - 2014.01.04 23:10:00 - [58] - Quote Alex Desmond wrote: I really like the concept of the event and it somewhat encouraged me to play a quick match but i feel like it should have been tiered rewards. e.g. day x: 1 win = aur std assault rifle, 2 wins = aur adv assault rifle, 3 wins = aur pro assault rifle. This way we are more encouraged to play a few rounds and we actually use some of the rewards. ^ this. was a nice gesture CCP, thank you, and holidayz to you and yours. now if you returned the hit detection back to the sniper rifle, I would be a happy Furyan [quote=mollerz] No no no no. I can't just fit willy nilly on my suit.[/quote]
Aqil Aegivan The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 252	Posted - 2014.01.05 01:20:00 - [59] - Quote Brush Master wrote: Aqil Aegivan wrote: For something that ran at a time when few staff were available and which was holiday themed this event seemed reasonable. Not exciting or really ground breaking in any way but I don't think it was supposed to be a highpoint for events anyway. I'm not sure the win requirement made a lot of sense here, given the meta level and amount of gear handed out. Requiring a win can be a good mechanic for the right event but here it was disproportionate to the reward. It also suffered due to the usual issue where one in every ten modules CCP gives away is useful to any given player. Extra SP or ISK should be part of every event where we're getting a shotgun blast of random crap. Don't like giving out SP and ISK? Then design more elegant events than "today you get a few of a randomly selected module". I agree, for what was given, simply logging in should have been enough. Maybe login gets you xx item, plus win xx matches and you will get a surprise item for that day. Larger quantity or rare official weapons would have made this event really nice but like you said it feels like a last ditch effort to through something together for the sake of having something. It's possible my post ended on a more sour note than I had intended, I just think we should have moved past handing out random gear by now. CCP has gotten the same feedback regarding this style of reward structure for a while now but it keeps happening. I'm relatively certain that "More appropriate rewards" was one of the things the community requested quite loudly when CCP had that thread on what we want to see from events, yet here we are. Brush Master wrote: I agree, for what was given, simply logging in should have been enough. This is tricky. I think that the win requirement can be very handy as it's not just gear you got, it's gear you won. It is possible to add value to low ISK rewards by adding that condition, even where people resent the necessity if it gets them playing it's not a terrible thing. The problem arises when the gear is not just cheap but also useless. Winning it is like winning one of those paper cracker things people pull on at Christmas. You get a joke and a crown but you don't feel like a winner. Just handing things out wouldn't have made this a better event so much as it would have changed people's complaints, stuff I'll never use stays stuff I'll never use no matter the relative ease with which I acquire it. My feedback is basically this: CCP, you were told that better events require more appropriate rewards rather than just randomly selected gear. You were told this repeatedly, some time ago. You failed to incorporate this into your event design philosophy. This event suffered as a result. To do better give us events with either A: Stuff everyone can use (SP, ISK or possibly LP). B: Gear tailored to each player. C: Unique or genuinely rare/desirable items. D: Some partial combination of the above. Don't give us events that are flawed in a way we've already explained and then ask why we don't like them, you know why.
Veka Kari The Phoenix Federation 33	Posted - 2014.01.05 07:06:00 - [60] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Veka, you just earned my vote. How about a commando LolRena?: Free for all, everyone spawns in a1 commandos, fitted with plasma cannons and nova knives, the Plc has 1 shot, and it's proto tier. The NK's do diminishing damage as you charge them, but the range increases, and punching out a full charge does 300% melee. Aside from the weapon modifying effects, I think its pretty good. I would modify it thusly: The Commando LolRena, FFA, 5 Spawns, Commando A/1 Suit, Prototype Plasma Cannon, and as well as Prototype Nova Knives. Last man standing wins. Vote me for CPM1, A Conduit for change

Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1022	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:11:00 - [61] - Quote lee corwood wrote: As far as getting isk as a reward, I think once we get the player market (whenever that is) we'll feel less underwhelmed because we'll have the ability to convert what we cannot use into isk or if we have a corp where we know dedicated players will use a piece of equipment more than me, tradesies. I get specialist weapons in types that I know I'll never use, but wish I could give to a corpmate who could use all he could get. Other than that, I agree with Aqil in that the win requirement made it very hard for some people. On the days my corp was on, this was an easy requirement, but when alone (2 days), I found it difficult and wishing I could hurry up and win one so I could turn the game off. I'm not a new player so I imagine for newer players, this was just frustrating and even more reason to not continue playing, especially during the holidays. Next time, a 'minimum number of games' might be a better option. I think winning is fine if the rewards match the time needed to do it. If you squad up with a 6 man group, your chances are much higher of winning so it is encouragement to work together. We know player market is in the works so that will help somewhat but does not change the fact that the rewards are no where near what players would like them to be. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1022	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:18:00 - [62] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: A majority of people saying the rewards are **** are sorely mistaken. I don't think people understand that not everything can be prototype rewards and just for them. These rewards are genuinely good and people asking for new items in this event don't have a good grasp on reality. I think its a point for some that 0% of items have matched their role. CCP has a thing for scouts? and small amounts of std or adv gear. This round we saw AUR gear, players are not dumb, it seems to be a marketing idea that maybe someone will build a suit for 12 uses with xx item and maybe they will buy AUR to restock the suit; however, they failed to account for that high death counts of most players. Who is going to buy tons of std or adv AUR gear when you die 5-10 times a match on average. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
G Torq ALTA B2O 351	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:27:00 - [63] - Quote TODDSTER024 wrote: Since I play solo, I don't have a squad. There was one day it was lose after lose after lose after lose after lose.. Not a single win was won. See my separate complaint that with the way the game work, whether we are able to get the award (i.e. win a match) is totally out of our hands, unless we decide to play Gallente FW. Team Fairy DUST HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1023	Posted - 2014.01.05 19:40:00 - [64] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Rozencrutz89 wrote: Event was a good idea but all the items in it were kinda underwhelming overall. This. But, well, free stuff. Some of the stuff was great tbqh - the black eagles and quafe suits were very nice. But things like enhanced shield extenders, which aren't used much by anyone, aren't of much use. Perhaps it's simply an issue with how useful some of the items are in game. Few people use fused locus grenades and enhanced shield extenders. Just part of the problem. One is same items being given and other is almost useless items. Free is free but why bother if players view the event rewards as nothing special. Events are suppose to increase player activity and make players want to engage the game, this event did somewhat but could have been done much better. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
Suanar Daranaus Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 106	Posted - 2014.01.05 19:47:00 - [65] - Quote Quafe suits are pretty but I'm not going to spec all those sp's into a Scout just to try one on. I'm already a Min Scout next Time can the Min get some extra nice looking Duct tape to apply to our suits instead?
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Public Disorder. 326	Posted - 2014.01.05 19:53:00 - [66] - Quote Suanar Daranaus wrote: Quafe suits are pretty but I'm not going to spec all those sp's into a Scout just to try one on. I'm already a Min Scout next Time can the Min get some extra nice looking Duct tape to apply to our suits instead? Mabey it could be SOLAR POWERED so we cpild at least get a bit more PG/CPU. I honestly would have been a ton more excited to see colored dropsuits. A band. A trim. Anything. Duct tape comes in all sorts of colors now. I'm certain the Matari would have used any duct tape they could get. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 541	Posted - 2014.01.05 20:28:00 - [67] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: This was my thoughts on the subject. A handful of low-level gear or a gob of suits I have a bunch of already isn't all that cool. tl;dr for the link: A reward that'd inspire me to log on would be a couple of militia suits that have different colors than normal. Not even intricate color changes. A palette swap would suffice. No fancy balance breaking gear. Just some warbarge bling would be enough. Yea warbarge bling would be an acceptable trade off. I am a big proponent of CCP selling to us customisations or skins / tank camos and colour options.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3105	Posted - 2014.01.05 20:38:00 - [68] - Quote It was underwhelming. Coming off the heels of the EVE Christmas event, I was intrigued by what Dust might be able to do with the same sort of setup. I actually pulled up the reward page every day to see what I might be able to get, hoping for some limited cosmetic or "fun" types of items that you'd only be able to pick up once in a year. In the end, I didn't login a single time to play a match for the event, because not a single reward seemed worth it. Granted, I have issues with the current TTK to the point I don't find the game particularly fun, but I might've made an exception for something unique. Instead... it was all very meh and disappointing. That's compared with stuff like "livestock" and "Fedo" from EVE, mind you... which I thought was very amusing even though I have no use for them. I did login to see the vehicle changes (and noted removed BPOs... /sigh). I assume I have another month or so to 1.8 and hopefully some useful TTK adjustments and possibly content. Join my cult.
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois Maphia Clan Corporation 51	Posted - 2014.01.05 21:27:00 - [69] - Quote Voted GÇó The rewards were underwhelming GÇó The event encouraged me to login GÇó I liked the event The idea of giving free items is always nice, and the requirements were fair enough since a victory is not impossible to achieve even if you play in MLT. However, most of the rewards were/are useless to me because I already have them or I can't use due to missing requirements. As a final note, I was quite surprised when I read "M-1 "Neo" suit" while on the background there was a Caldari soldier... c'mon guys! >_< If you are an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1936	Posted - 2014.01.05 23:35:00 - [70] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: I actually pulled up the reward page every day to see what I might be able to get, hoping for some limited cosmetic or "fun" types of items that you'd only be able to pick up once in a year. I understand the sentiment. It doesn't need to be useful. It just needs to be different. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.

Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 227	Posted - 2014.01.06 00:05:00 - [71] - Quote Brush Master wrote: This is a simple pool for the community to give CCP a general idea of what you thought of the event through a poll. http://strawpoll.me/960929 click link, check all that apply and vote. Which did you vote for and why? 12 Days of Dust Event (December 25th GÇô January 5th) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=127895 "Did not even notice/care that it was going on" If I would be rewarded after each daily-won-match, I think it would be nicer. It would actually give me filling that I participate in something. I'm here since may 2012, my EVE alter ego is Nosum Hseebnrido.
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1023	Posted - 2014.01.06 06:16:00 - [72] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: A majority of people saying the rewards are **** are sorely mistaken. I don't think people understand that not everything can be prototype rewards and just for them. These rewards are genuinely good and people asking for new items in this event don't have a good grasp on reality. Although maybe they could have skipped the ADV shield extenders for something else. I remember the Hacked Drop Uplinks I got from the Chromosome Merc Pack (or whatever it was) were incredibly useful, considering that I didn't have any SP to spare on the things. Ya i think the items could be useful for new players, but they would not last but a match or two for a new player. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1023	Posted - 2014.01.06 06:18:00 - [73] - Quote Zunist Tae wrote: Full time college student on Christmas break (read broke with nothing better to do), had me logging all of my tons each day looking for a win. Cool for you I spent more time in Dust. Bad for you... The prizes may come in useful but they all look like AUR items to me. Which means i'll never have more than 12, so meh. I've been over exposed to Proto stomping and am really close to being burn out on Dust. Not one of the items is permanent. Not looking for amazing items, but a bpo of some sort to remember the event would have been awesome. (Maybe a Christmas colored frontline? A "Rudolph" laser rifle... something militia grade and festivish...) Came really close to missing the event, and wouldn't have even noticed or been upset... new bpo are gone and the way its looking they want to phase them out. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1023	Posted - 2014.01.06 12:19:00 - [74] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Personally, I'd rather see reward items named iin different ways to make them special, even if they are only ADV items. Like a heavy suit with something santa implied, or a scout suit in reference to an elf. Maybe even a LAV with references to reindeer. And then modules could be called different christmas decorations or something. What about santas vs elves where it would be kills in heavy suits vs kills in scout suits? Some creativity would be nice. Maybe in 2014 when they will have time to fix the bugs and increase content. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1023	Posted - 2014.01.06 15:09:00 - [75] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: If you're going to make it so that we can have santa hats in the future I want all sorts of other religious gear too: Kwanzaa Candles Dreidels Statue of Kali Incan Sacrificial Altar Flying Spagetti Monster Plushy Cathulu Cult Robe Mobius Brand Cough SyrupGäó (Now in new "not proven to cause blindness" formula) Really, if this game is going to have items associated with any one religion in it doesn't it seem foolish not to be a little more inclusive. Or how about this, we leave out the whole Christmas themed thing and just make a good game. Really though my merc wants a Flying Spagetti Monster Plushy for his quarters. If you want a certain theme then those that want it will have to voice their opinion, but yes on good game, this thread is about the event though and how it could be improved for next year. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1023	Posted - 2014.01.06 17:18:00 - [76] - Quote TODDSTER024 wrote: Since I play solo, I don't have a squad. There was one day it was lose after lose after lose after lose after lose.. Not a single win was won. Did you try Gallente FW? 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 110	Posted - 2014.01.07 01:29:00 - [77] - Quote Liked the idea, logged in everyday to get the reward, but was repeatedly disappointed by most of the rewards themselves on reveal.
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Public Disorder. 328	Posted - 2014.01.07 01:43:00 - [78] - Quote Apparently i missed a day. I guess I played too early and got the win before the roll over. Oh well, no chip on my shoulder. I'm fairly certain I won't use most of this equipment seeing as I can't make any more fittings CCP. FOLDERS!!! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=123830&find=unread Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1024	Posted - 2014.01.07 13:15:00 - [79] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: A majority of people saying the rewards are **** are sorely mistaken. I don't think people understand that not everything can be prototype rewards and just for them. These rewards are genuinely good and people asking for new items in this event don't have a good grasp on reality. No one's saying that these items are bad, it's just more that they arent all that interesting. If they were looking for rewards that would inspire somebody who's been around for longer than a couple weeks to log on then the sort of items they were giving out didn't do the trick. right on. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1024	Posted - 2014.01.07 13:17:00 - [80] - Quote lithkul devant wrote: Well, the 12 days each day having a different item to win was okay, but it also encouraged me to only login and play 1-4 matches each day, why play unneeded matches during the holiday times? Also...I was hoping for a special holiday reward for you know actually sticking with Dust 514 it kind of let down not to get one. Mind you the passive boosters for 50% off was very nice (Finally they did this, about damn time) They also had a package for 75% off which was decent, but then again that isn't a holiday themed gift or truly special. I guess what I'm saying is, I wanted an actual gift like you get on Christmas, the other stuff was just nice fluff, but still just fluff. yes, kudos for a nice promotion that we all been asking for. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]

Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1024	Posted - 2014.01.07 13:20:00 - [81] - Quote Aqil Aegivan wrote: Brush Master wrote: Aqil Aegivan wrote: For something that ran at a time when few staff were available and which was holiday themed this event seemed reasonable. Not exciting or really ground breaking in any way but I don't think it was supposed to be a highpoint for events anyway. I'm not sure the win requirement made a lot of sense here, given the meta level and amount of gear handed out. Requiring a win can be a good mechanic for the right event but here it was disproportionate to the reward. It also suffered due to the usual issue where one in every ten modules CCP gives away is useful to any given player. Extra SP or ISK should be part of every event where we're getting a shotgun blast of random crap. Don't like giving out SP and ISK? Then design more elegant events than "today you get a few of a randomly selected module". I agree, for what was given, simply logging in should have been enough. Maybe login gets you xx item, plus win xx matches and you will get a surprise item for that day. Larger quantity or rare official weapons would have made this event really nice but like you said it feels like a last ditch effort to through something together for the sake of having something. It's possible my post ended on a more sour note than I had intended, I just think we should have moved past handing out random gear by now. CCP has gotten the same feedback regarding this style of reward structure for a while now but it keeps happening. I'm relatively certain that "More appropriate rewards" was one of the things the community requested quite loudly when CCP had that thread on what we want to see from events, yet here we are. Brush Master wrote: I agree, for what was given, simply logging in should have been enough. This is tricky. I think that the win requirement can be very handy as it's not just gear you got, it's gear you won. It is possible to add value to low ISK rewards by adding that condition, even where people resent the necessity if it gets them playing it's not a terrible thing. The problem arises when the gear is not just cheap but also useless. Winning it is like winning one of those paper cracker things people pull on at Christmas. You get a joke and a crown but you don't feel like a winner. Just handing things out wouldn't have made this a better event so much as it would have changed people's complaints, stuff I'll never use stays stuff I'll never use no matter the relative ease with which I acquire it. My feedback is basically this: CCP, you were told that better events require more appropriate rewards rather than just randomly selected gear. You were told this repeatedly, some time ago. You failed to incorporate this into your event design philosophy. This event suffered as a result. To do better give us events with either A: Stuff everyone can use (SP, ISK or possibly LP). B: Gear tailored to each player. C: Unique or genuinely rare/desirable items. D: Some partial combination of the above. Don't give us events that are flawed in a way we've already explained and then ask why we don't like them, you know why. Edit: Or events which have a link to EVE lore. They're not for everyone (lets face it, some people don't care) but it wouldn't hurt to have them every once in a while, especially since we had so many during beta where we couldn't choose a side but now we have that ability and it's going to waste. some really good feedback, thanks. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1024	Posted - 2014.01.09 04:20:00 - [82] - Quote Poll results added to first post ( https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1679130 ). Poll is closed but feel free to discuss anything further should you feel the need. Thanks to every that participated. 514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core [email protected]
Akdhar Saif Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 156	Posted - 2014.01.09 13:36:00 - [83] - Quote I think the items were decent, complaining about free stuff....do I have to say it? ok ok, its like looking a gift horse in the mouth.


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