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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.05 16:11:00 -
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lee corwood wrote:As far as getting isk as a reward, I think once we get the player market (whenever that is) we'll feel less underwhelmed because we'll have the ability to convert what we cannot use into isk or if we have a corp where we know dedicated players will use a piece of equipment more than me, tradesies. I get specialist weapons in types that I know I'll never use, but wish I could give to a corpmate who could use all he could get.
Other than that, I agree with Aqil in that the win requirement made it very hard for some people. On the days my corp was on, this was an easy requirement, but when alone (2 days), I found it difficult and wishing I could hurry up and win one so I could turn the game off. I'm not a new player so I imagine for newer players, this was just frustrating and even more reason to not continue playing, especially during the holidays. Next time, a 'minimum number of games' might be a better option.
I think winning is fine if the rewards match the time needed to do it. If you squad up with a 6 man group, your chances are much higher of winning so it is encouragement to work together. We know player market is in the works so that will help somewhat but does not change the fact that the rewards are no where near what players would like them to be.
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.05 16:18:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:A majority of people saying the rewards are **** are sorely mistaken. I don't think people understand that not everything can be prototype rewards and just for them.
These rewards are genuinely good and people asking for new items in this event don't have a good grasp on reality.
I think its a point for some that 0% of items have matched their role. CCP has a thing for scouts? and small amounts of std or adv gear. This round we saw AUR gear, players are not dumb, it seems to be a marketing idea that maybe someone will build a suit for 12 uses with xx item and maybe they will buy AUR to restock the suit; however, they failed to account for that high death counts of most players. Who is going to buy tons of std or adv AUR gear when you die 5-10 times a match on average.
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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G Torq
ALTA B2O
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Posted - 2014.01.05 16:27:00 -
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TODDSTER024 wrote:Since I play solo, I don't have a squad. There was one day it was lose after lose after lose after lose after lose.. Not a single win was won.
See my separate complaint that with the way the game work, whether we are able to get the award (i.e. win a match) is totally out of our hands, unless we decide to play Gallente FW.
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.05 19:40:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Rozencrutz89 wrote:Event was a good idea but all the items in it were kinda underwhelming overall. This. But, well, free stuff. Some of the stuff was great tbqh - the black eagles and quafe suits were very nice. But things like enhanced shield extenders, which aren't used much by anyone, aren't of much use. Perhaps it's simply an issue with how useful some of the items are in game. Few people use fused locus grenades and enhanced shield extenders.
Just part of the problem. One is same items being given and other is almost useless items. Free is free but why bother if players view the event rewards as nothing special. Events are suppose to increase player activity and make players want to engage the game, this event did somewhat but could have been done much better.
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Suanar Daranaus
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.05 19:47:00 -
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Quafe suits are pretty but I'm not going to spec all those sp's into a Scout just to try one on. I'm already a Min Scout next Time can the Min get some extra nice looking Duct tape to apply to our suits instead? |
lee corwood
Knights Of Ender Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.05 19:53:00 -
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Suanar Daranaus wrote:Quafe suits are pretty but I'm not going to spec all those sp's into a Scout just to try one on. I'm already a Min Scout next Time can the Min get some extra nice looking Duct tape to apply to our suits instead? Mabey it could be SOLAR POWERED so we cpild at least get a bit more PG/CPU.
I honestly would have been a ton more excited to see colored dropsuits. A band. A trim. Anything. Duct tape comes in all sorts of colors now. I'm certain the Matari would have used any duct tape they could get.
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:28:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:This was my thoughts on the subject. A handful of low-level gear or a gob of suits I have a bunch of already isn't all that cool. tl;dr for the link: A reward that'd inspire me to log on would be a couple of militia suits that have different colors than normal. Not even intricate color changes. A palette swap would suffice. No fancy balance breaking gear. Just some warbarge bling would be enough.
Yea warbarge bling would be an acceptable trade off.
I am a big proponent of CCP selling to us customisations or skins / tank camos and colour options. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:38:00 -
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It was underwhelming. Coming off the heels of the EVE Christmas event, I was intrigued by what Dust might be able to do with the same sort of setup. I actually pulled up the reward page every day to see what I might be able to get, hoping for some limited cosmetic or "fun" types of items that you'd only be able to pick up once in a year.
In the end, I didn't login a single time to play a match for the event, because not a single reward seemed worth it. Granted, I have issues with the current TTK to the point I don't find the game particularly fun, but I might've made an exception for something unique. Instead... it was all very meh and disappointing. That's compared with stuff like "livestock" and "Fedo" from EVE, mind you... which I thought was very amusing even though I have no use for them. I did login to see the vehicle changes (and noted removed BPOs... /sigh). I assume I have another month or so to 1.8 and hopefully some useful TTK adjustments and possibly content.
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Ghermard-ol Dizeriois
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.01.05 21:27:00 -
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Voted GÇó The rewards were underwhelming GÇó The event encouraged me to login GÇó I liked the event
The idea of giving free items is always nice, and the requirements were fair enough since a victory is not impossible to achieve even if you play in MLT. However, most of the rewards were/are useless to me because I already have them or I can't use due to missing requirements.
As a final note, I was quite surprised when I read "M-1 "Neo" suit" while on the background there was a Caldari soldier... c'mon guys! >_<
If you are an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
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Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.01.05 23:35:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote: I actually pulled up the reward page every day to see what I might be able to get, hoping for some limited cosmetic or "fun" types of items that you'd only be able to pick up once in a year.
I understand the sentiment. It doesn't need to be useful. It just needs to be different.
Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
Interregnum.
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Posted - 2014.01.06 00:05:00 -
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"Did not even notice/care that it was going on" If I would be rewarded after each daily-won-match, I think it would be nicer. It would actually give me filling that I participate in something.
I'm here since may 2012, my EVE alter ego is Nosum Hseebnrido.
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.06 06:16:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:A majority of people saying the rewards are **** are sorely mistaken. I don't think people understand that not everything can be prototype rewards and just for them.
These rewards are genuinely good and people asking for new items in this event don't have a good grasp on reality. Although maybe they could have skipped the ADV shield extenders for something else. I remember the Hacked Drop Uplinks I got from the Chromosome Merc Pack (or whatever it was) were incredibly useful, considering that I didn't have any SP to spare on the things.
Ya i think the items could be useful for new players, but they would not last but a match or two for a new player.
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.06 06:18:00 -
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Zunist Tae wrote:Full time college student on Christmas break (read broke with nothing better to do), had me logging all of my tons each day looking for a win. Cool for you I spent more time in Dust. Bad for you... The prizes may come in useful but they all look like AUR items to me. Which means i'll never have more than 12, so meh. I've been over exposed to Proto stomping and am really close to being burn out on Dust. Not one of the items is permanent. Not looking for amazing items, but a bpo of some sort to remember the event would have been awesome. (Maybe a Christmas colored frontline? A "Rudolph" laser rifle... something militia grade and festivish...) Came really close to missing the event, and wouldn't have even noticed or been upset...
new bpo are gone and the way its looking they want to phase them out.
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.06 12:19:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Personally, I'd rather see reward items named iin different ways to make them special, even if they are only ADV items.
Like a heavy suit with something santa implied, or a scout suit in reference to an elf. Maybe even a LAV with references to reindeer.
And then modules could be called different christmas decorations or something. What about santas vs elves where it would be kills in heavy suits vs kills in scout suits? Some creativity would be nice.
Maybe in 2014 when they will have time to fix the bugs and increase content.
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.06 15:09:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:If you're going to make it so that we can have santa hats in the future I want all sorts of other religious gear too: Kwanzaa Candles Dreidels Statue of Kali Incan Sacrificial Altar Flying Spagetti Monster Plushy Cathulu Cult Robe Mobius Brand Cough SyrupGäó (Now in new "not proven to cause blindness" formula)
Really, if this game is going to have items associated with any one religion in it doesn't it seem foolish not to be a little more inclusive. Or how about this, we leave out the whole Christmas themed thing and just make a good game.
Really though my merc wants a Flying Spagetti Monster Plushy for his quarters.
If you want a certain theme then those that want it will have to voice their opinion, but yes on good game, this thread is about the event though and how it could be improved for next year.
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.06 17:18:00 -
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TODDSTER024 wrote:Since I play solo, I don't have a squad. There was one day it was lose after lose after lose after lose after lose.. Not a single win was won.
Did you try Gallente FW?
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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The Eristic
Sad Panda Solutions
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Posted - 2014.01.07 01:29:00 -
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Liked the idea, logged in everyday to get the reward, but was repeatedly disappointed by most of the rewards themselves on reveal. |
lee corwood
Knights Of Ender Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.07 01:43:00 -
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Apparently i missed a day. I guess I played too early and got the win before the roll over. Oh well, no chip on my shoulder. I'm fairly certain I won't use most of this equipment seeing as I can't make any more fittings CCP. FOLDERS!!!
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=123830&find=unread
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
1024
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:15:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:A majority of people saying the rewards are **** are sorely mistaken. I don't think people understand that not everything can be prototype rewards and just for them.
These rewards are genuinely good and people asking for new items in this event don't have a good grasp on reality. No one's saying that these items are bad, it's just more that they arent all that interesting. If they were looking for rewards that would inspire somebody who's been around for longer than a couple weeks to log on then the sort of items they were giving out didn't do the trick.
right on.
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:17:00 -
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lithkul devant wrote:Well, the 12 days each day having a different item to win was okay, but it also encouraged me to only login and play 1-4 matches each day, why play unneeded matches during the holiday times? Also...I was hoping for a special holiday reward for you know actually sticking with Dust 514 it kind of let down not to get one. Mind you the passive boosters for 50% off was very nice (Finally they did this, about damn time) They also had a package for 75% off which was decent, but then again that isn't a holiday themed gift or truly special. I guess what I'm saying is, I wanted an actual gift like you get on Christmas, the other stuff was just nice fluff, but still just fluff.
yes, kudos for a nice promotion that we all been asking for.
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:20:00 -
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Aqil Aegivan wrote:Brush Master wrote:Aqil Aegivan wrote:For something that ran at a time when few staff were available and which was holiday themed this event seemed reasonable. Not exciting or really ground breaking in any way but I don't think it was supposed to be a highpoint for events anyway.
I'm not sure the win requirement made a lot of sense here, given the meta level and amount of gear handed out. Requiring a win can be a good mechanic for the right event but here it was disproportionate to the reward.
It also suffered due to the usual issue where one in every ten modules CCP gives away is useful to any given player. Extra SP or ISK should be part of every event where we're getting a shotgun blast of random crap. Don't like giving out SP and ISK? Then design more elegant events than "today you get a few of a randomly selected module". I agree, for what was given, simply logging in should have been enough. Maybe login gets you xx item, plus win xx matches and you will get a surprise item for that day. Larger quantity or rare official weapons would have made this event really nice but like you said it feels like a last ditch effort to through something together for the sake of having something. It's possible my post ended on a more sour note than I had intended, I just think we should have moved past handing out random gear by now. CCP has gotten the same feedback regarding this style of reward structure for a while now but it keeps happening. I'm relatively certain that "More appropriate rewards" was one of the things the community requested quite loudly when CCP had that thread on what we want to see from events, yet here we are. Brush Master wrote:I agree, for what was given, simply logging in should have been enough. This is tricky. I think that the win requirement can be very handy as it's not just gear you got, it's gear you won. It is possible to add value to low ISK rewards by adding that condition, even where people resent the necessity if it gets them playing it's not a terrible thing. The problem arises when the gear is not just cheap but also useless. Winning it is like winning one of those paper cracker things people pull on at Christmas. You get a joke and a crown but you don't feel like a winner. Just handing things out wouldn't have made this a better event so much as it would have changed people's complaints, stuff I'll never use stays stuff I'll never use no matter the relative ease with which I acquire it. My feedback is basically this: CCP, you were told that better events require more appropriate rewards rather than just randomly selected gear. You were told this repeatedly, some time ago. You failed to incorporate this into your event design philosophy. This event suffered as a result. To do better give us events with either A: Stuff everyone can use (SP, ISK or possibly LP). B: Gear tailored to each player. C: Unique or genuinely rare/desirable items. D: Some partial combination of the above. Don't give us events that are flawed in a way we've already explained and then ask why we don't like them, you know why. Edit: Or events which have a link to EVE lore. They're not for everyone (lets face it, some people don't care) but it wouldn't hurt to have them every once in a while, especially since we had so many during beta where we couldn't choose a side but now we have that ability and it's going to waste.
some really good feedback, thanks.
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.09 04:20:00 -
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Poll results added to first post ( https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1679130 ). Poll is closed but feel free to discuss anything further should you feel the need. Thanks to every that participated.
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Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.01.09 13:36:00 -
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I think the items were decent, complaining about free stuff....do I have to say it? ok ok, its like looking a gift horse in the mouth. |
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