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HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 444	Posted - 2013.12.29 07:43:00 - [1] - Quote Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 608	Posted - 2013.12.29 07:46:00 - [2] - Quote Kill them? It's only 3..... "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 1273	Posted - 2013.12.29 07:47:00 - [3] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: Kill them? It's only 3..... Until they just call in another 3 because they are dirt cheap. Fish in a bucket!
GeneralButtNaked 656	Posted - 2013.12.29 07:48:00 - [4] - Quote My forge eats tanks up. What is your problem? Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 3957	Posted - 2013.12.29 07:51:00 - [5] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: My forge eats tanks up. What is your problem? My sica eats forge guns for breakfest. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 3 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 631	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:00:00 - [6] - Quote this is what, the 153rd or so complaint thread? congratulations you win the "pointless repetative statement thats been repeated more times then we can count" award for the day. nothing in this thread will be a new idea or statement, its a repeatt of a repeat of a reapeat etc etc etc...... quit posting uselss crap people, nobody wants to hear bitching and moaning anymore
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 444	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:00:00 - [7] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: My forge eats tanks up. What is your problem? My sica eats forge guns for breakfest. Nobody cares. Stop hiding in a tank You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 631	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:04:00 - [8] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: My forge eats tanks up. What is your problem? My sica eats forge guns for breakfest. Nobody cares. Stop hiding in a tank nobody cares, start killing the tanks, and no i wont accept this "they cant be killed" bs i have yet to run into a tank i cant kill... and solo at that.
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 444	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:06:00 - [9] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: My forge eats tanks up. What is your problem? My sica eats forge guns for breakfest. Nobody cares. Stop hiding in a tank nobody cares, start killing the tanks, and no i wont accept this "they cant be killed" bs i have yet to run into a tank i cant kill... and solo at that. forced av is garbage. Stop hiding in tanks pvssies You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
Sgt Kirk Kirk Industries 3869	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:08:00 - [10] - Quote lol at people defending cheap ass tanks.

Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 631	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:08:00 - [11] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: My forge eats tanks up. What is your problem? My sica eats forge guns for breakfest. Nobody cares. Stop hiding in a tank nobody cares, start killing the tanks, and no i wont accept this "they cant be killed" bs i have yet to run into a tank i cant kill... and solo at that. forced av is garbage. Stop hiding in tanks pvssies forcing me to kill off infantry is too cruel. get in tanks you pussys hiding in all those buildings invulnerable to my railgun. come out and fight me in a tank like a man instead of scurrying around like mice. also < im infantry demo logi not a tanker :P although i DO have a tanker alt i havnt counted as a tanker since uprising hit.
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 1275	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:10:00 - [12] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: this is what, the 153rd or so complaint thread? congratulations you win the "pointless repetative statement thats been repeated more times then we can count" award for the day. nothing in this thread will be a new idea or statement, its a repeatt of a repeat of a reapeat etc etc etc...... quit posting uselss crap people, nobody wants to hear bitching and moaning anymore We had to hear tankers btch and moan since 1.0 about how they were UP. The minority complained long enough and CCP finally threw them a bone and made them FoTM. So, its only right that until they get balanced, people SHOULD btch and moan about it over, and over. Because CCP only listens to the loudest. They don't listen to the reasonable, or the objective. Don't like it? a) don't click on a tank thread b) don't exploit tanks in the game and encourage others not to c) tell CCP you want the issue resolved ASAP d) stop btching & moaning about others btching and moaning If there is this much complaining, then obviously something isn't right about tanks and they need to be addressed. Fish in a bucket!
Robocop Junior BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 439	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:11:00 - [13] - Quote Used to be if people were taking a beating they would just run cheap suits now they just run cheap tanks! If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 608	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:12:00 - [14] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: My forge eats tanks up. What is your problem? My sica eats forge guns for breakfest. Are you a *** that hides in the redline, or are you manning up and coming out of the redline. Well, either way, it'll be OP as you can fit a full set of complex modules and turrets on it, but whatever. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___**^
Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:13:00 - [15] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: My forge eats tanks up. What is your problem? My sica eats forge guns for breakfest. haha. Do we all have to switch to forge guns because of the tank spam? Variety is dust selling point lol
Sgt Kirk Kirk Industries 3870	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:14:00 - [16] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: Used to be if people were taking a beating they would just run cheap suits now they just run cheap tanks! dude, it's so profitable. My tank that allows me to ** face cost less than my ADV suit w/ fittings. Holy CCP, you really **** up that thought process.
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 608	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:15:00 - [17] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: lol at people defending cheap ass tanks. Didn't say I was defending them. I've said it already that the MLT hulls and the modules/turrets needs nerfing. All I'm saying is that they are killable if you try. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 631	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:16:00 - [18] - Quote 8213 wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: this is what, the 153rd or so complaint thread? congratulations you win the "pointless repetative statement thats been repeated more times then we can count" award for the day. nothing in this thread will be a new idea or statement, its a repeatt of a repeat of a reapeat etc etc etc...... quit posting uselss crap people, nobody wants to hear bitching and moaning anymore We had to hear tankers btch and moan since 1.0 about how they were UP. The minority complained long enough and CCP finally threw them a bone and made them FoTM. So, its only right that until they get balanced, people SHOULD btch and moan about it over, and over. Because CCP only listens to the loudest. They don't listen to the reasonable, or the objective. Don't like it? a) don't click on a tank thread b) don't exploit tanks in the game and encourage others not to c) tell CCP you want the issue resolved ASAP d) stop btching & moaning about others btching and moaning If there is this much complaining, then obviously something isn't right about tanks and they need to be addressed. you do realise that the primary complaint from tankers for those 6 months was that all the infantry were invisable right? the only reason infantry AV was so damn effective was because they wernt visable. also you must be new here, at any one time 95% of general discussion is bitching and moaning about a single topic. its not that somethings wrong, its that people love to ***** and moan, logis went from being bitched about to being yesterdays news without any actual changes being done to them... i wish for a wrold where general discussion isnt the same thread repeated 200 times untill people get bored and make a new thread 200 times.... what new and interesting tidbit of insight did you bring to GD exactly? nothing.... you may as well of copy and pasted one of the other 100+ threads stating "omg i hate tanks"
Justice Prevails 150	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:16:00 - [19] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: this is what, the 153rd or so complaint thread? congratulations you win the "pointless repetative statement thats been repeated more times then we can count" award for the day. nothing in this thread will be a new idea or statement, its a repeatt of a repeat of a reapeat etc etc etc...... quit posting uselss crap people, nobody wants to hear bitching and moaning anymore Don't like it, then don't read it. Don't post in it to bring it to the top of the GD board if it bothers you that much. Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 608	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:16:00 - [20] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: My forge eats tanks up. What is your problem? My sica eats forge guns for breakfest. Nobody cares. Stop hiding in a tank nobody cares, start killing the tanks, and no i wont accept this "they cant be killed" bs i have yet to run into a tank i cant kill... and solo at that. forced av is garbage. Stop hiding in tanks pvssies Refusing to do combined arms is garbage. This isn't AR514 dipshit. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution 2636	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:18:00 - [21] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. So call 3 tanks. It's not like they are hard to use or expensive. In reality you are simply losing because you decided to.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 631	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:19:00 - [22] - Quote Justice Prevails wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: this is what, the 153rd or so complaint thread? congratulations you win the "pointless repetative statement thats been repeated more times then we can count" award for the day. nothing in this thread will be a new idea or statement, its a repeatt of a repeat of a reapeat etc etc etc...... quit posting uselss crap people, nobody wants to hear bitching and moaning anymore Don't like it, then don't read it. Don't post in it to bring it to the top of the GD board if it bothers you that much. i find an odd sence of justice to post in nonsence useless threads stating how utterly pointless they are, it derails them completly and forces anyone who reads it to directly adress me instead, where i can in turn change the subject at some point and kill off any potential discussion while pissing off loads of butthurt complainers at the same time. aka im basically just aiming to counter the giant circlejerk of QQ that GD has become.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1688	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:20:00 - [23] - Quote I told someone this in chat a few days ago. If you see tanks and do not bring out AV or a tank of your own, you deserve to be steamrolled. You either cry and complain or do something about it. ******* spoiled brats these days make me angry and sad. Sangry. "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara The Traitor, in the name of "freedom".
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 3958	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:20:00 - [24] - Quote If av is forced into team work, then tanks should be forced into team work as well. I propose tanks to be changed to having either having a main cannon that is not mainly anti infantry. Or having them become a 4 seater in which the driver is not he gunner. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 3 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 631	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:22:00 - [25] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: If av is forced into team work, then tanks should be forced into team work as well. I propose tanks to be changed to having either having a main cannon that is not mainly anti infantry. Or having them become a 4 seater in which the driver is not he gunner. im not forced to use teamwork to kill off tanks as infantry, yoru entire statement is now invalid
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 608	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:25:00 - [26] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: If av is forced into team work, then tanks should be forced into team work as well. I propose tanks to be changed to having either having a main cannon that is not mainly anti infantry. Or having them become a 4 seater in which the driver is not he gunner. I just soloed a good 7 HAV's or so since I got home........ No. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 1275	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:27:00 - [27] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: 8213 wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: this is what, the 153rd or so complaint thread? congratulations you win the "pointless repetative statement thats been repeated more times then we can count" award for the day. nothing in this thread will be a new idea or statement, its a repeatt of a repeat of a reapeat etc etc etc...... quit posting uselss crap people, nobody wants to hear bitching and moaning anymore We had to hear tankers btch and moan since 1.0 about how they were UP. The minority complained long enough and CCP finally threw them a bone and made them FoTM. So, its only right that until they get balanced, people SHOULD btch and moan about it over, and over. Because CCP only listens to the loudest. They don't listen to the reasonable, or the objective. Don't like it? a) don't click on a tank thread b) don't exploit tanks in the game and encourage others not to c) tell CCP you want the issue resolved ASAP d) stop btching & moaning about others btching and moaning If there is this much complaining, then obviously something isn't right about tanks and they need to be addressed. you do realise that the primary complaint from tankers for those 6 months was that all the infantry were invisable right? the only reason infantry AV was so damn effective was because they wernt visable. also you must be new here, at any one time 95% of general discussion is bitching and moaning about a single topic. its not that somethings wrong, its that people love to ***** and moan, logis went from being bitched about to being yesterdays news without any actual changes being done to them... i wish for a wrold where general discussion isnt the same thread repeated 200 times untill people get bored and make a new thread 200 times.... what new and interesting tidbit of insight did you bring to GD exactly? nothing.... you may as well of copy and pasted one of the other 100+ threads stating "omg i hate tanks" BINGO! You brought up 2 points. Tanks have pushed other issues to the back-burner. And tanks never got FIXED. However, it does support the line of thought right now that tanks are so game breaking that its cast a shadow over everything else. So, until they get balanced, or fixed, or nerfed into oblivion people are going to complain about it. I'm sure CCP is well aware of the problems tanks have caused by now, because of the mass outcry. Mostly, its just people venting after a bad session of in game play that they make the thread about what's grieving them. I don't know what's more annoying. Coming onto the forums and seeing the same 500 threads, or getting into game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game and being FORCED to deal with OP Tank spam. Fish in a bucket!
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 1275	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:32:00 - [28] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: If av is forced into team work, then tanks should be forced into team work as well. I propose tanks to be changed to having either having a main cannon that is not mainly anti infantry. Or having them become a 4 seater in which the driver is not he gunner. I just soloed a good 7 HAV's or so since I got home........ No. Whoop-dee-doo... The fact that the other team apparently can afford to drop 7 tanks in one pub match is a problem. The fact that you made no noticeable increase in iSK destroying that many tanks is a problem. And, you didn't solo sh*t. Because, you still needed help from your teammates to cover you when you went tank hunting. Yes, noob tankers are in force in this game. You can kill 10 of them a match and its of no consequence. But one professional tanker will be beat a professional AVer 100% of the time now in 1.7. Fish in a bucket!
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 631	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:35:00 - [29] - Quote 8213 wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: 8213 wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: this is what, the 153rd or so complaint thread? congratulations you win the "pointless repetative statement thats been repeated more times then we can count" award for the day. nothing in this thread will be a new idea or statement, its a repeatt of a repeat of a reapeat etc etc etc...... quit posting uselss crap people, nobody wants to hear bitching and moaning anymore We had to hear tankers btch and moan since 1.0 about how they were UP. The minority complained long enough and CCP finally threw them a bone and made them FoTM. So, its only right that until they get balanced, people SHOULD btch and moan about it over, and over. Because CCP only listens to the loudest. They don't listen to the reasonable, or the objective. Don't like it? a) don't click on a tank thread b) don't exploit tanks in the game and encourage others not to c) tell CCP you want the issue resolved ASAP d) stop btching & moaning about others btching and moaning If there is this much complaining, then obviously something isn't right about tanks and they need to be addressed. you do realise that the primary complaint from tankers for those 6 months was that all the infantry were invisable right? the only reason infantry AV was so damn effective was because they wernt visable. also you must be new here, at any one time 95% of general discussion is bitching and moaning about a single topic. its not that somethings wrong, its that people love to ***** and moan, logis went from being bitched about to being yesterdays news without any actual changes being done to them... i wish for a wrold where general discussion isnt the same thread repeated 200 times untill people get bored and make a new thread 200 times.... what new and interesting tidbit of insight did you bring to GD exactly? nothing.... you may as well of copy and pasted one of the other 100+ threads stating "omg i hate tanks" BINGO! You brought up 2 points. Tanks have pushed other issues to the back-burner. And tanks never got FIXED. However, it does support the line of thought right now that tanks are so game breaking that its cast a shadow over everything else. So, until they get balanced, or fixed, or nerfed into oblivion people are going to complain about it. I'm sure CCP is well aware of the problems tanks have caused by now, because of the mass outcry. Mostly, its just people venting after a bad session of in game play that they make the thread about what's grieving them. I don't know what's more annoying. Coming onto the forums and seeing the same 500 threads, or getting into game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game after game and being FORCED to deal with OP Tank spam. never got fixed? it hasnt even been a month yet and 1.8 is already code locked and not due to arrive anytime soon due to the holiday season and the end of the monthly release cycle.... what exactly did you expect them to bypass sony QA and make a new patch? also i hate to break this to you... but your not FORCED to do anything, turn off the damn game. also this is a game with things in it, things your going to have to counter, just because you dont feel like countering a specific piece doesnt mean you get to bend things to your will for your convienince. for instance uplink and other equipment spam, proto spam, FOTM spam, any kind of spam. you cant just not want to deal with everything that works... grow a pair and stop spouting useless dribble
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 631	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:37:00 - [30] - Quote 8213 wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: If av is forced into team work, then tanks should be forced into team work as well. I propose tanks to be changed to having either having a main cannon that is not mainly anti infantry. Or having them become a 4 seater in which the driver is not he gunner. I just soloed a good 7 HAV's or so since I got home........ No. Whoop-dee-doo... The fact that the other team apparently can afford to drop 7 tanks in one pub match is a problem. The fact that you made no noticeable increase in iSK destroying that many tanks is a problem. And, you didn't solo sh*t. Because, you still needed help from your teammates to cover you when you went tank hunting. Yes, noob tankers are in force in this game. You can kill 10 of them a match and its of no consequence. But one professional tanker will be beat a professional AVer 100% of the time now in 1.7. YAH tell em, the fact that if you kill that guy in an ADV suit he can just equip a new one and keep coming at me is unfair! i want permadeth in this game, if i kill someone i want em to stay dead or be forced to use something thats more adventagious for me!

Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 608	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:40:00 - [31] - Quote 8213 wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: If av is forced into team work, then tanks should be forced into team work as well. I propose tanks to be changed to having either having a main cannon that is not mainly anti infantry. Or having them become a 4 seater in which the driver is not he gunner. I just soloed a good 7 HAV's or so since I got home........ No. Whoop-dee-doo... The fact that the other team apparently can afford to drop 7 tanks in one pub match is a problem. The fact that you made no noticeable increase in iSK destroying that many tanks is a problem. And, you didn't solo sht. Because, you still needed help from your teammates to cover you when you went tank hunting. Yes, noob tankers are in force in this game. You can kill 10 of them a match and its of no consequence. But one professional tanker will be beat a professional AVer 100% of the time now in 1.7. We had no points, and most of my team was in the redline. Also, this was over the course of 2 games. Lastly, Since 1.7, I've killed about 400-500 HAV's solo using AV. Oh, I've killed the pro pilots already as well. You just have to know how to hunt, and it seems as though many people don't. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___*^
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 1276	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:53:00 - [32] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: 8213 wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: If av is forced into team work, then tanks should be forced into team work as well. I propose tanks to be changed to having either having a main cannon that is not mainly anti infantry. Or having them become a 4 seater in which the driver is not he gunner. I just soloed a good 7 HAV's or so since I got home........ No. Whoop-dee-doo... The fact that the other team apparently can afford to drop 7 tanks in one pub match is a problem. The fact that you made no noticeable increase in iSK destroying that many tanks is a problem. And, you didn't solo sht. Because, you still needed help from your teammates to cover you when you went tank hunting. Yes, noob tankers are in force in this game. You can kill 10 of them a match and its of no consequence. But one professional tanker will be beat a professional AVer 100% of the time now in 1.7. YAH tell em, the fact that if you kill that guy in an ADV suit he can just equip a new one and keep coming at me is unfair! i want permadeth in this game, if i kill someone i want em to stay dead or be forced to use something thats more adventagious for me! So, its okay that tanks cost less than infantry? Because you just compared an ADV dropsuit to a HAV... am I reading that right? What world do you live in where a single tank costs less than a single infantry personal? World of tanks is that way ---------> advantageous btw Fish in a bucket!
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 1276	Posted - 2013.12.29 08:57:00 - [33] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: Since 1.7, I've killed about 400-500 HAV's solo using AV. How many tanks did you kill from 1.0-1.6? Do you not see a problem here? These are tanks and yet they cost so little that people are just throwing them away on the field like they are empty tuna cans. Destroying the tanks isn't hard. Its the fact that they just keep getting called in and spammed game after game. Fish in a bucket!
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 608	Posted - 2013.12.29 09:01:00 - [34] - Quote 8213 wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: Since 1.7, I've killed about 400-500 HAV's solo using AV. How many tanks did you kill from 1.0-1.6? Do you not see a problem here? These are tanks and yet they cost so little that people are just throwing them away on the field like they are empty tuna cans. Destroying the tanks isn't hard. Its the fact that they just keep getting called in and spammed game after game. Sadly, only around 1000. but the prices are fine. Just that MLT HAV's are too strong (and Caldari vehicles/turrets in general are too strong), and needs nerfing. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5298	Posted - 2013.12.29 09:02:00 - [35] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. Get a Sica and own them if they are scrubs. I'm getting to the point where I am able to take 3 tanks on at once or in rapid succession, downed 4 in an ambush match today..... HTFU. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Wallaby1 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 67	Posted - 2013.12.29 10:32:00 - [36] - Quote if enemy tanks are such a problem Y U NO COUNTER TANK? suppose you think you should be able to just kill it with 3 grenades
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 638	Posted - 2013.12.29 11:39:00 - [37] - Quote 8213 wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: 8213 wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: If av is forced into team work, then tanks should be forced into team work as well. I propose tanks to be changed to having either having a main cannon that is not mainly anti infantry. Or having them become a 4 seater in which the driver is not he gunner. I just soloed a good 7 HAV's or so since I got home........ No. Whoop-dee-doo... The fact that the other team apparently can afford to drop 7 tanks in one pub match is a problem. The fact that you made no noticeable increase in iSK destroying that many tanks is a problem. And, you didn't solo sht. Because, you still needed help from your teammates to cover you when you went tank hunting. Yes, noob tankers are in force in this game. You can kill 10 of them a match and its of no consequence. But one professional tanker will be beat a professional AVer 100% of the time now in 1.7. YAH tell em, the fact that if you kill that guy in an ADV suit he can just equip a new one and keep coming at me is unfair! i want permadeth in this game, if i kill someone i want em to stay dead or be forced to use something thats more adventagious for me! So, its okay that tanks cost less than infantry? Because you just compared an ADV dropsuit to a HAV... am I reading that right? What world do you live in where a single tank costs less than a single infantry personal? World of tanks is that way ---------> advantageous btw there you go ranting about things i havnt said :P you "omg i hate tanks" guys always have the same things to say reguardless of what everyone else is talking about :P i mearly pointed out that its unreasonable to expect that a tanker wouldnt pull out another tank :P after all cost isnt even nessesarily a factor since people unprofitably run proto over and over again all the time :P so of course a guy who runs tanks is going to continue to bring tanks out, how else are you going to learn how not to explode? anything you read beyond that was in your imagination. my adv suit costs the same as a tank :P hence why i compaired them in that manner. and by compairison my demo fit is more threatening then a tank is even if its designed not to look that way for the pupose of bait :P get out of here with your same 4 phrases in responce to anything that isnt tank QQ blah blah blah teamwork blah blah blah cost blah blah blah spam blah blah blah crutch
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5300	Posted - 2013.12.29 11:54:00 - [38] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. So call 3 tanks. It's not like they are hard to use or expensive. In reality you are simply losing because you decided to. Depends. If those three idiots meet a smart enemy tanker yeah using an MLT tank becomes very hard. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
EVILyn Stadden Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 0	Posted - 2013.12.29 12:06:00 - [39] - Quote Personally I love the changes to tanks. I used to hate being raped by tanks in matches, but I've adopted the 'Adapt and overcome atittude.' I run ML tanks and AV and enjoy the skill involved in making both work effectively. ML tanks aren't OP in my opinion I get raped on a regular basis and eventually give up dropping them, or have the most fun ive had in a long time on this game. One more tanker on the field is one less groundie trying to take an objective in my opinion and gives the opposing ground forces the edge in numbers. Tanks are now more available to the masses to try out and see if they want to start skiling into. Personally I invite the idea of more vehicles onto the field. Its brought a new dynamic into the game. Has anyone seen the screenshots of the big vehicle battles!? xD These have been regularly popping up on my PC screensaver for months and I wondered when CCP were going to step the game to this level or encourage more vehicles skilling. Well guess what its working and people are having heaps of fun in the process. Hopefully these new changes will make more people 'Adapt and overcome' their play style. It would be great if these changes made people: 1) Stop running solo, 2) Maybe drop your 4 man corp corp and join one that has a larger player base and dont deploy till you got a full squad. 3) If the enemies dropping tanks, drop a ML Soma or Sica, dependant on the situation and try to out-manouver them. 4)Put some skills into tanks or AV maybe... 5) Just avoid the tanks,its pretty easy to do.. 6) Rage quit, uninstall and break your console with a bat and put that on youtube so we can all have a good laugh... There are plenty of awesome ways to kill tanks, and in the EVE/PVP fashion, Every battle has its unique characteristics that you can build on. This game is heavily Cooperative and that's what keeps me keen on it regardless of the various flaws. Teamwork wins matches. If you get jumped and outskiled take your licks, adapt and learn.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1343	Posted - 2013.12.29 12:09:00 - [40] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. So call 3 tanks. It's not like they are hard to use or expensive. In reality you are simply losing because you decided to. Depends. If those three idiots meet a smart enemy tanker yeah using an MLT tank becomes very hard. So once again your reply is use a tank, that doesn't clock over as being OP to you? That I have to field the same thing as you to stand a chance of winning? Im sure I have told you about linear escalation before. So what about all those infantry hiding in a corner because they can't leave because of tanks? When do theh get to enjoy using the equipment they skilled into? Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1

Beld Errmon The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1184	Posted - 2013.12.29 12:10:00 - [41] - Quote 8213 wrote: How many tanks did you kill from 1.0-1.6? Do you not see a problem here? These are tanks and yet they cost so little that people are just throwing them away on the field like they are empty tuna cans. Destroying the tanks isn't hard. Its the fact that they just keep getting called in and spammed game after game. Why are you still here sooking about tanks when you supposedly quit and uninstalled the game? Tanks aren't ruining the game, your teams lack of tanks is, when both teams have tanks they are far to busy fighting each other to nail infantry.
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 594	Posted - 2013.12.29 12:10:00 - [42] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: My forge eats tanks up. What is your problem? Not until they turn that turtle mode st on. Assassination is my thing.**
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 638	Posted - 2013.12.29 12:13:00 - [43] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. So call 3 tanks. It's not like they are hard to use or expensive. In reality you are simply losing because you decided to. Depends. If those three idiots meet a smart enemy tanker yeah using an MLT tank becomes very hard. So once again your reply is use a tank, that doesn't clock over as being OP to you? That I have to field the same thing as you to stand a chance of winning? Im sure I have told you about linear escalation before. So what about all those infantry hiding in a corner because they can't leave because of tanks? When do theh get to enjoy using the equipment they skilled into? if they come out swining with AV granades i GUARENTEE YOU that they can leave that corner :P that tanks going to have to bail pretty quickly :P if i can acomplish that with STD packav AV all on my lonesome then 3 of em should be able to put the hurt on more than i can am i wrong? ive noticed a pattern with you, every time anyone doesnt directly and completly agree with you on this issue you immediatly start ranting about this whole only a tank counters a tank nonsence... i suggest you pick a different argument and start packing AV nades on all your suits if your anything more then just a blowhard repeating yoruself over and over again.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1344	Posted - 2013.12.29 13:37:00 - [44] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. So call 3 tanks. It's not like they are hard to use or expensive. In reality you are simply losing because you decided to. Depends. If those three idiots meet a smart enemy tanker yeah using an MLT tank becomes very hard. So once again your reply is use a tank, that doesn't clock over as being OP to you? That I have to field the same thing as you to stand a chance of winning? Im sure I have told you about linear escalation before. So what about all those infantry hiding in a corner because they can't leave because of tanks? When do theh get to enjoy using the equipment they skilled into? if they come out swining with AV granades i GUARENTEE YOU that they can leave that corner :P that tanks going to have to bail pretty quickly :P if i can acomplish that with STD packav AV all on my lonesome then 3 of em should be able to put the hurt on more than i can am i wrong? ive noticed a pattern with you, every time anyone doesnt directly and completly agree with you on this issue you immediatly start ranting about this whole only a tank counters a tank nonsence... i suggest you pick a different argument and start packing AV nades on all your suits if your anything more then just a blowhard repeating yoruself over and over again. Great So I have to skill into more AV, because the orginal doesn't work? Then I have to hope the tank is stupid enough to get in rangemof me withoutnhis hardners active? Or I have to chase him across open fields? Brilliant. Look, the fact is simple AV needs to be a dedicated role, some people still don't understand that. But those that run dedicated AV don't have enough tools at their disposal. They don't get duely rewarded and the suitnthat lends itself to the role is terrible. We need more AV options than dealing damage, in the current iteration all but a forge gun deals pitiful damage against tankers with more than half a brain cell. I mean come one don't tell me that tanking is difficult at the moment. All you have to do is turn on a hardner as soon as you come under fire. The commando suit needs more buffs to make it sustainable as an AV suit, give it a grenade slot at the very least. Give us equipment that hampers tanks, things like temporal grenades, webifiers, emp grenades. Givd us artillery turrets that can be designated targets, give us bombers, gunships, give us something that tanks are WEAK to, give us a HARD COUNTER. And for balance, somewhere along the line a vehicle that takes out aerial ships should be weak to tanks. Then AV can be situationalaly better. For example look at Tom Clancy's EndWar Tank < Gunship < Transport < Tank Engineer > Vehicles (While in Cover, advantageous Position) Engineer < Soilder Soilder < Vehicles That's balance! Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2055	Posted - 2013.12.29 13:43:00 - [45] - Quote OP calls enemy scrubs because they have 3 tanks on the field If the enemy is a scrub what does that make OP since scrubs handed his ass to him on a plate Intelligence is OP
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1094	Posted - 2013.12.29 13:48:00 - [46] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: 8213 wrote: How many tanks did you kill from 1.0-1.6? Do you not see a problem here? These are tanks and yet they cost so little that people are just throwing them away on the field like they are empty tuna cans. Destroying the tanks isn't hard. Its the fact that they just keep getting called in and spammed game after game. Why are you still here sooking about tanks when you supposedly quit and uninstalled the game? Tanks aren't ruining the game, your teams lack of tanks is, when both teams have tanks they are far to busy fighting each other to nail infantry. 82s got a fan. I don't remember peoples name unless they good. Except mith, he busts my balls every time I post. There was a time we fought good tankers. Now we just fight good tanks.
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention 946	Posted - 2013.12.29 13:52:00 - [47] - Quote Since 1.7.
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 159	Posted - 2013.12.29 14:23:00 - [48] - Quote Tankers are the cockroaches of New Eden. Blow them up or nerf them. I don't care as long as they are exterminated.
Sir Petersen Valhalla Nord 445	Posted - 2013.12.29 14:25:00 - [49] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. Tanks are super easy to handle once you get the hang of it. Blew up 2 off them a minute ago. This game is easier with all this metal on the ground.
Leonid Tybalt Dark Knightz Corp. 60	Posted - 2013.12.29 14:26:00 - [50] - Quote 8213 wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: Kill them? It's only 3..... Until they just call in another 3 because they are dirt cheap. Kill them too then? Or do you think that ammo is too expensive in this game?

Leonid Tybalt Dark Knightz Corp. 60	Posted - 2013.12.29 14:29:00 - [51] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: 8213 wrote: How many tanks did you kill from 1.0-1.6? Do you not see a problem here? These are tanks and yet they cost so little that people are just throwing them away on the field like they are empty tuna cans. Destroying the tanks isn't hard. Its the fact that they just keep getting called in and spammed game after game. Why are you still here sooking about tanks when you supposedly quit and uninstalled the game? Tanks aren't ruining the game, your teams lack of tanks is, when both teams have tanks they are far to busy fighting each other to nail infantry. This ^
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 952	Posted - 2013.12.29 14:32:00 - [52] - Quote You mean blaster tanks in ambush don't you? Because this doesn't happen in other modes nor with non blaster tanks. Play skirmish and enjoy how infantry plus droplinks wins regardless of tanks. Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn! BURN DUST 2014
Leonid Tybalt Dark Knightz Corp. 60	Posted - 2013.12.29 14:35:00 - [53] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: If av is forced into team work, then tanks should be forced into team work as well. I propose tanks to be changed to having either having a main cannon that is not mainly anti infantry. Or having them become a 4 seater in which the driver is not he gunner. We are already forced into teamwork. We can't hack any objectives from inside a tank, we need help from infantry to do that. If we don't hack objectives then it doesn't matter how many kills we make because our team will lose. Also try going upp against coordinated tankers running in a convoy in just one tank on your own. It's nigh impossible, which illustrate that tanks need to cooperate too if they wish to be effective against other tanks.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 747	Posted - 2013.12.29 14:55:00 - [54] - Quote +1 only read title STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1095	Posted - 2013.12.29 15:04:00 - [55] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: My forge eats tanks up. What is your problem? My sica eats forge guns for breakfest. yep. And those poor poor swarmers are pathetic. I think CCP should take that off the list for starter fits. It only gets blueberries killed. tanks don't ruin matches. People ruin matches, with tanks. There was a time we fought good tankers. Now we just fight good tanks.
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 611	Posted - 2013.12.29 16:33:00 - [56] - Quote 8213 wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: 8213 wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: If av is forced into team work, then tanks should be forced into team work as well. I propose tanks to be changed to having either having a main cannon that is not mainly anti infantry. Or having them become a 4 seater in which the driver is not he gunner. I just soloed a good 7 HAV's or so since I got home........ No. Whoop-dee-doo... The fact that the other team apparently can afford to drop 7 tanks in one pub match is a problem. The fact that you made no noticeable increase in iSK destroying that many tanks is a problem. And, you didn't solo sht. Because, you still needed help from your teammates to cover you when you went tank hunting. Yes, noob tankers are in force in this game. You can kill 10 of them a match and its of no consequence. But one professional tanker will be beat a professional AVer 100% of the time now in 1.7. YAH tell em, the fact that if you kill that guy in an ADV suit he can just equip a new one and keep coming at me is unfair! i want permadeth in this game, if i kill someone i want em to stay dead or be forced to use something thats more adventagious for me! So, its okay that tanks cost less than infantry? Because you just compared an ADV dropsuit to a HAV... am I reading that right? What world do you live in where a single tank costs less than a single infantry personal? World of tanks is that way ---------> advantageous btw Okay, I'm about to show you something, and it is fact. Not opinion, FACT. Actually, I'll show you two: Iphone 5s cost: $899.99 Average Laptop: $500 Ishkur cost: 24.8 mil ISK Vexor Cost: 9 mil ISK The first example is showing that it can be although weaker, since Iphone 5s is considered popular and strong for a smart phone, it costs more. The second example is the exact same ting. Although technically weaker, the ishkur is stronger ship of it's hull size, and therefore it will cost more. It's the same thing with HAV's and Dropsuits. At the end side, the HAV's will cost more. But if they are at polar end's of the spectrum mata level wise, one's obviously going to be more costly. But, that doesn't mean the MLT vehicles are balanced. SInce they are so cheap now, and since you can make a fit that's basically the same power of a good fitted HAV from a 10m SP pilot into a tech 1 hull that's just has longer cooldowns, there's an imbalance that needs to be fixed. They're still killable, just that's a little too much when I'm having to work just as hard to take down a ** fit as a good fit. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___**^
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 446	Posted - 2013.12.29 17:14:00 - [57] - Quote Scrubs defending tanks are scrubs. The truth us 99% of all tank users have almost no impact on matches without tanks. I blame battlefeild 4 for this also. Ccp has to remain competitive. Unlike tank clowns. Seruous buy a rail rifle if you suck. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1595	Posted - 2013.12.29 18:23:00 - [58] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. So call 3 tanks. It's not like they are hard to use or expensive. In reality you are simply losing because you decided to. LOL bad tanker calling tanks easy to use. Jumps out before they explode to use his forge gun. You're a bad tanker. Don't call tanks easy. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 401	Posted - 2013.12.29 20:26:00 - [59] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. Lure them off the field into tighter quarters, proxy's, re's forge's and swarms, BOOM!!! Then kill more tanks. CEO Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
Beld Errmon The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1194	Posted - 2013.12.29 21:16:00 - [60] - Quote Kam Elto wrote: Tankers are the cockroaches of New Eden. Blow them up or nerf them. I don't care as long as they are exterminated. HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrubs defending tanks are scrubs. The truth us 99% of all tank users have almost no impact on matches without tanks. These are the people that wanna tell CCP how to balance the game, and what an interesting game we would have, spaceCod 2000 and fun.

Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1443	Posted - 2013.12.29 21:22:00 - [61] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Kam Elto wrote: Tankers are the cockroaches of New Eden. Blow them up or nerf them. I don't care as long as they are exterminated. HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrubs defending tanks are scrubs. The truth us 99% of all tank users have almost no impact on matches without tanks. These are the people that wanna tell CCP how to balance the game, and what an interesting game we would have, spaceCod 2000 and fun. No body wants Cod. Cod is the justin barber of FPS. But to taki and spkr you get the impression that to them DUST514 is a RTS and not FPS. if moves, and looks, and barks like a dog..then it must be a lion?
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 447	Posted - 2013.12.30 04:42:00 - [62] - Quote Scrubs roll in tanks period. So many guys should be dieing but to busy running from tanks. Tankers cant fight You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
GeneralButtNaked 661	Posted - 2013.12.30 04:50:00 - [63] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrubs roll in tanks period. So many guys should be dieing but to busy running from tanks. Tankers cant fight Sounds like someone is mad they can't even tank. Get good scrub. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 447	Posted - 2013.12.30 04:57:00 - [64] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrubs roll in tanks period. So many guys should be dieing but to busy running from tanks. Tankers cant fight Sounds like someone is mad they can't even tank. Get good scrub. I can actually get kills without 4k hp and rolling 30 mph. Go hide in your tank clown. This is a mans topic. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
GeneralButtNaked 661	Posted - 2013.12.30 04:59:00 - [65] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: I can actually get kills without 4k hp and rolling 30 mph. Go hide in your tank clown. This is a mans topic. I am a Forge Gunner, clearly more man than you, because I face down those 4k hp tanks and live, while you scurry around like a cockroach and die. And then come and cry about it. Real manly. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 447	Posted - 2013.12.30 05:12:00 - [66] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: I can actually get kills without 4k hp and rolling 30 mph. Go hide in your tank clown. This is a mans topic. I am a Forge Gunner, clearly more man than you, because I face down those 4k hp tanks and live, while you scurry around like a cockroach and die. And then come and cry about it. Real manly. You hide on roof tops with nanohives. Manly. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3184	Posted - 2013.12.30 05:24:00 - [67] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: My forge eats tanks up. What is your problem? My sica eats forge guns for breakfest. Nobody cares. Stop hiding in a tank nobody cares, start killing the tanks, and no i wont accept this "they cant be killed" bs i have yet to run into a tank i cant kill... and solo at that. forced av is garbage. Stop hiding in tanks pvssies Do you expect the tank to blow up on its own? Lack of content makes stuff broken... Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
GeneralButtNaked 665	Posted - 2013.12.30 05:25:00 - [68] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: You hide on roof tops with nanohives. Manly. Guristas Sage Prof 5 FG Proto nade of choice. I don't need a rooftop. But maybe you should stay up there away from the mean tanks that scare you so much. Must be a sad gameplay experience running away all the time. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 447	Posted - 2013.12.30 05:26:00 - [69] - Quote No I expect half the comunity to pad its stats with tanks. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2780	Posted - 2013.12.30 06:20:00 - [70] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: No I expect half the comunity to pad its stats with tanks. That's practically all they've ever been used for. Even before 1.6. ...

deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 354	Posted - 2013.12.30 06:21:00 - [71] - Quote and you had av right? did you use it? "May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace" - Second Corinthians chapter one verse two.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 740	Posted - 2013.12.30 07:31:00 - [72] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: My forge eats tanks up. What is your problem? My sica eats forge guns for breakfest. Nobody cares. Stop hiding in a tank nobody cares, start killing the tanks, and no i wont accept this "they cant be killed" bs i have yet to run into a tank i cant kill... and solo at that. Either you are the most badS person in the game or you drive a tank yourself; don't see how there can be another explanation to soloing any tank. Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
Jason Pearson 3688	Posted - 2013.12.30 07:38:00 - [73] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. Stop ruining my match and get a tank, you infantry are so boring. ;) King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire. Zaria for Miss Universe 2014
DeathwindRising ROGUE SPADES 164	Posted - 2013.12.30 08:01:00 - [74] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: My forge eats tanks up. What is your problem? My sica eats forge guns for breakfest. Nobody cares. Stop hiding in a tank i stopped counting how many times ive hopped out of my complex tank to kill 5 guys in my proto suit only to hop back in and tank an orbital and 6 swarmers before killing 4 tanks... im not sure if your complaint is well founded. do you prefer to die by my militia fit? adv fit? proto fit? or tank? i can do all of them in match if you like. oh and unless youre a dedicated tanker, dont bother calling in those crap militia tanks... i actually make tons of isk off them lol
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 08:49:00 - [75] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. So squad with a tanker. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 08:52:00 - [76] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: My forge eats tanks up. What is your problem? My sica eats forge guns for breakfest. Nobody cares. Stop hiding in a tank nobody cares, start killing the tanks, and no i wont accept this "they cant be killed" bs i have yet to run into a tank i cant kill... and solo at that. forced av is garbage. Stop hiding in tanks pvssies LOL There's a weak argument in a nutshell. Dedicated infantry doesn't want to take out AV to destroy tanks. They complain that they can't destroy tanks. They complain there's one tank on the field. They complain that AV got nerfed. Is there anything pertaining to vehicles you don't complain about? Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 08:53:00 - [77] - Quote 8213 wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: this is what, the 153rd or so complaint thread? congratulations you win the "pointless repetative statement thats been repeated more times then we can count" award for the day. nothing in this thread will be a new idea or statement, its a repeatt of a repeat of a reapeat etc etc etc...... quit posting uselss crap people, nobody wants to hear bitching and moaning anymore We had to hear tankers btch and moan since 1.0 about how they were UP. The minority complained long enough and CCP finally threw them a bone and made them FoTM. So, its only right that until they get balanced, people SHOULD btch and moan about it over, and over. Because CCP only listens to the loudest. They don't listen to the reasonable, or the objective. Don't like it? a) don't click on a tank thread b) don't exploit tanks in the game and encourage others not to c) tell CCP you want the issue resolved ASAP d) stop btching & moaning about others btching and moaning If there is this much complaining, then obviously something isn't right about tanks and they need to be addressed. You wanna try to fit out a dropsuit without proper CPU and PG skills? How many infantry complained that tanks were still too hard to destroy? Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 08:55:00 - [78] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. So call 3 tanks. It's not like they are hard to use or expensive. In reality you are simply losing because you decided to. They're definitely hard for some people. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
demonkiller 12 G.L.O.R.Y Public Disorder. 290	Posted - 2013.12.30 08:55:00 - [79] - Quote tanks should have never changed, if you couldnt do good in a tank pre 1.7 thats because you are bad and the game shouldnt have to give you special privileges just because you are ** ~sincerely, someone who wasnt a *** ** in a 1.5mil tank and you people *** about losing 100k tanks...
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 08:56:00 - [80] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: If av is forced into team work, then tanks should be forced into team work as well. I propose tanks to be changed to having either having a main cannon that is not mainly anti infantry. Or having them become a 4 seater in which the driver is not he gunner. You wanna remove blasters, then you gotta give up something. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 08:58:00 - [81] - Quote 8213 wrote: Waaaaaaaaaaambulance Do you have any idea what just a Sica can do to the best tanks if they catch them without hardeners? Even a rail installation is great at AV. You just don't want to bother. You invalidate anything you say with that attitude. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 08:59:00 - [82] - Quote 8213 wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: If av is forced into team work, then tanks should be forced into team work as well. I propose tanks to be changed to having either having a main cannon that is not mainly anti infantry. Or having them become a 4 seater in which the driver is not he gunner. I just soloed a good 7 HAV's or so since I got home........ No. Whoop-dee-doo... The fact that the other team apparently can afford to drop 7 tanks in one pub match is a problem. The fact that you made no noticeable increase in iSK destroying that many tanks is a problem. And, you didn't solo sh*t. Because, you still needed help from your teammates to cover you when you went tank hunting. Yes, noob tankers are in force in this game. You can kill 10 of them a match and its of no consequence. But one professional tanker will be beat a professional AVer 100% of the time now in 1.7. Who said he needed help? There are some people that are pretty intelligent, that know the terrain, and know how to handle their own machine. All I need is someone watching the field, telling me where vehicles are, and I'm all good to go. I mean, it's not my fault that you don't listen to us when we tell you how to destroy us. How many times collectively have tankers told infantry how to destroy us? Maybe 10,000 times? Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:02:00 - [83] - Quote 8213 wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: 8213 wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: If av is forced into team work, then tanks should be forced into team work as well. I propose tanks to be changed to having either having a main cannon that is not mainly anti infantry. Or having them become a 4 seater in which the driver is not he gunner. I just soloed a good 7 HAV's or so since I got home........ No. Whoop-dee-doo... The fact that the other team apparently can afford to drop 7 tanks in one pub match is a problem. The fact that you made no noticeable increase in iSK destroying that many tanks is a problem. And, you didn't solo sht. Because, you still needed help from your teammates to cover you when you went tank hunting. Yes, noob tankers are in force in this game. You can kill 10 of them a match and its of no consequence. But one professional tanker will be beat a professional AVer 100% of the time now in 1.7. YAH tell em, the fact that if you kill that guy in an ADV suit he can just equip a new one and keep coming at me is unfair! i want permadeth in this game, if i kill someone i want em to stay dead or be forced to use something thats more adventagious for me! So, its okay that tanks cost less than infantry? Because you just compared an ADV dropsuit to a HAV... am I reading that right? What world do you live in where a single tank costs less than a single infantry personal? World of tanks is that way ---------> advantageous btw Another one complaining that MLT gear is cheaper than PRO gear. That's like complaining a Honda is cheaper than a Ferrari. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:03:00 - [84] - Quote 8213 wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: Since 1.7, I've killed about 400-500 HAV's solo using AV. How many tanks did you kill from 1.0-1.6? Do you not see a problem here? These are tanks and yet they cost so little that people are just throwing them away on the field like they are empty tuna cans. Destroying the tanks isn't hard. Its the fact that they just keep getting called in and spammed game after game. Yet few of you ever agreed that PRO turrets were prohibitively expensive. Do you know what it's like to lose 1.5 mil in one death? Maybe CCP should increase the price of PRO to what it used to be, over 300,000 ISK for one suit, with no modules on it. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:07:00 - [85] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: True Adamance wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. So call 3 tanks. It's not like they are hard to use or expensive. In reality you are simply losing because you decided to. Depends. If those three idiots meet a smart enemy tanker yeah using an MLT tank becomes very hard. So once again your reply is use a tank, that doesn't clock over as being OP to you? That I have to field the same thing as you to stand a chance of winning? Im sure I have told you about linear escalation before. So what about all those infantry hiding in a corner because they can't leave because of tanks? When do theh get to enjoy using the equipment they skilled into? So if you're facing 4 guys in Gallente suits, kinda CQC, what do you do? Use an SMG or shotgun, or use a mass driver? You could go from point to point using BPO vehicles so you don't lose ISK, and have someone watching out for tanks, so you don't get stopped on the way. Why do we always have to tell you how to do things? Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:10:00 - [86] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Great So I have to skill into more AV, because the orginal doesn't work? Then I have to hope the tank is stupid enough to get in rangemof me withoutnhis hardners active? Or I have to chase him across open fields? Brilliant. Look, the fact is simple AV needs to be a dedicated role, some people still don't understand that. But those that run dedicated AV don't have enough tools at their disposal. They don't get duely rewarded and the suitnthat lends itself to the role is terrible. We need more AV options than dealing damage, in the current iteration all but a forge gun deals pitiful damage against tankers with more than half a brain cell. I mean come one don't tell me that tanking is difficult at the moment. All you have to do is turn on a hardner as soon as you come under fire. The commando suit needs more buffs to make it sustainable as an AV suit, give it a grenade slot at the very least. Give us equipment that hampers tanks, things like temporal grenades, webifiers, emp grenades. Givd us artillery turrets that can be designated targets, give us bombers, gunships, give us something that tanks are WEAK to, give us a HARD COUNTER. And for balance, somewhere along the line a vehicle that takes out aerial ships should be weak to tanks. Then AV can be situationalaly better. For example look at Tom Clancy's EndWar Tank < Gunship < Transport < Tank Engineer > Vehicles (While in Cover, advantageous Position) Engineer < Soilder Soilder < Vehicles That's balance! Guess what................ a railgun is a hard counter to all tankers. Every single tanker tucks tail and runs when they start getting hit by a railgun. But that's not fair to you, because that means you can't PRO stomp noobs fresh out the academy. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:12:00 - [87] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: Kam Elto wrote: Tankers are the cockroaches of New Eden. Blow them up or nerf them. I don't care as long as they are exterminated. HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrubs defending tanks are scrubs. The truth us 99% of all tank users have almost no impact on matches without tanks. These are the people that wanna tell CCP how to balance the game, and what an interesting game we would have, spaceCod 2000 and fun. No body wants Cod. Cod is the justin barber of FPS. But to taki and spkr you get the impression that to them DUST514 is a RTS and not FPS. if moves, and looks, and barks like a dog..then it must be a lion? FPS doesn't mean only infantry all the time. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:13:00 - [88] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrubs roll in tanks period. So many guys should be dieing but to busy running from tanks. Tankers cant fight So pilots are scrubs now. Fine then. People that only run in PRO gear are scrubs too. Why do you need such a crutch? Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Levithunder Butt Hurt Try Hards Primus Federation 135	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:13:00 - [89] - Quote Me and my buddy saw 20 enemy tanks in a domination, I lost a sica... My friend never died and we tolk all them out ..... Stop complaining , if it's Sooooooo cheap why don't you buy some tanks?? OHHHHHHHHHH I JUST WENT THERE (-í° -£-û -í°) Nerf Me If You Dare.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:13:00 - [90] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: I can actually get kills without 4k hp and rolling 30 mph. Go hide in your tank clown. This is a mans topic. I am a Forge Gunner, clearly more man than you, because I face down those 4k hp tanks and live, while you scurry around like a cockroach and die. And then come and cry about it. Real manly. You hide on roof tops with nanohives. Manly. That's using the terrain to his advantage, something you clearly don't know how to do. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:14:00 - [91] - Quote Atiim wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: No I expect half the comunity to pad its stats with tanks. That's practically all they've ever been used for. Even before 1.6. Says the guy that had to use AV to destroy tanks because he's such a bad tanker himself. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix 614	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:20:00 - [92] - Quote Nobody else post anything; let's see how many pages Spkr can fill by himself by only quoting & responding to a single person in each post with only 1-3 sentences. CCP: Is it the most asinine way possible to do this? Yes. Then that's how we're doing it.
Jason Pearson 3690	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:20:00 - [93] - Quote Jaysus Spkr, you went loose xD King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire. Zaria for Miss Universe 2014
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 1828	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:29:00 - [94] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. So call 3 tanks. It's not like they are hard to use or expensive. In reality you are simply losing because you decided to. This works well enough in Skirmish. Domination is on the harder side. Ambush? No. Tanks are king of K/D. Half the time in Ambush, whoever gets the first rail tank on the ground wins because they can pop everything deploying, unless the enemy runs all the way to the redline. Even Domination and Skirmish on some maps are like this. How do I deal with enemy tanks coming in to pop me in a tank squad? I pop them as they deploy or use a better tank, since 90% of the enemy team can only use militia tanks. I won 12 matches in a row squadded with Nyain San yesterday on my alt. Mostly Ambush with some Skirmishes, most of us in tanks. I'm guessing all of the enemies just "decided" to lose when they were deploying their tanks, slowly, one by one, getting them all blown up on deployment or shortly afterwards? Good luck even getting to the red to deploy. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:31:00 - [95] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Nobody else post anything; let's see how many pages Spkr can fill by himself by only quoting & responding to a single person in each post with only 1-3 sentences. So I should post the way you want me to? Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Lorhak Gannarsein 943	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:38:00 - [96] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Nobody else post anything; let's see how many pages Spkr can fill by himself by only quoting & responding to a single person in each post with only 1-3 sentences. So I should post the way you want me to? Please. PRO tanker and proud. Lentarr Legionary.
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix 614	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:49:00 - [97] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Nobody else post anything; let's see how many pages Spkr can fill by himself by only quoting & responding to a single person in each post with only 1-3 sentences. So I should post the way you want me to? Well, it would be nice but I know how hard it is for you to not be annoying. Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Please. EDIT: holy sh*t. That's like twenty posts! What in the hell? Going for Forum Warrior (by post count) #1, I see. Don't actually have anything to say to you; I'm just demonstrating how this works for Spkr should he decide to use it. CCP: Is it the most asinine way possible to do this? Yes. Then that's how we're doing it.
Beld Errmon The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1199	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:02:00 - [98] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: There's a weak argument in a nutshell. Dedicated infantry doesn't want to take out AV to destroy tanks. They complain that they can't destroy tanks. They complain there's one tank on the field. They complain that AV got nerfed. Is there anything pertaining to vehicles you don't complain about? You see this is the problem, for every guy who has a genuine complaint about the AV vs tank balance there are five who just rabidly hate tanks and will +1 any argument that features the words tank and nerf, these people were around and saying the same things when tanks were terrible and easy to kill.
noob cavman Tickle My Null-Sac 330	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:18:00 - [99] - Quote I still miss chrome tanks they were the most fun to kill. Now its jist point yoir swarms in a direction and your bound hit a mlt hull. Btw moaners grab a sica with a rail and two damage mods, or the same but with a missile turret.... or just drive a lav like how I do Hey mlt tank guess what my lav is ready and I GOT TWO TICKETS TO PARADISE!!!
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 454	Posted - 2013.12.30 15:41:00 - [100] - Quote Do any of you clown tankers ever think about why you have such high kdr? you cant defend against tanks and infantry effecticely at the same time.You have to choose one or the other. seeing how av is garbage 95% of the community just equips rifles. Who do you guys think you are kidding? You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type

Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3187	Posted - 2013.12.30 16:26:00 - [101] - Quote Atiim wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: No I expect half the comunity to pad its stats with tanks. That's practically all they've ever been used for. Even before 1.6. That's your personal opinion... I personally use tanks because it's different from infantry and adds an other dimension to battle, I hate using the same thing as everyone else. Tank spam makes me sad as it just separates the infantry comunity from the vehicle community even more. Lack of content makes stuff broken... Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1444	Posted - 2013.12.30 16:48:00 - [102] - Quote It's the obvious go to. You die less. nothing more to it than that. Many don't go into FPS games with the thought of "I'm never gonna have to shoot a gun with hands EVER in this game" Even those that went into dedicated HAV roles in PS2 or BF or Arma, warhark, unreal ext. They knew what they were playing, a fps game. But in those FPS games that avenue of abuse is closed, by how HAV and AV work. If the simple equation is Infantry=Infantry Hav> Infantry AV> Hav Then what happened? Are we going for RL equation? They really wouldn't want that! lol since in RL AV is close to OHK with tanks Ok, so FPS rules can't apply. RL rules can't apply. lol Man, there is no spinning this as to why this FPS game has troubles. or that 1.7 brought anyone back or kept anyone.
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 159	Posted - 2013.12.30 16:51:00 - [103] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Kam Elto wrote: Tankers are the cockroaches of New Eden. Blow them up or nerf them. I don't care as long as they are exterminated. HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrubs defending tanks are scrubs. The truth us 99% of all tank users have almost no impact on matches without tanks. These are the people that wanna tell CCP how to balance the game, and what an interesting game we would have, spaceCod 2000 and fun. Not trying to tell CCP anything. Just want to rid New Eden of the infestation.
The Attorney General 1715	Posted - 2013.12.30 17:03:00 - [104] - Quote Kam Elto wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: Kam Elto wrote: Tankers are the cockroaches of New Eden. Blow them up or nerf them. I don't care as long as they are exterminated. HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrubs defending tanks are scrubs. The truth us 99% of all tank users have almost no impact on matches without tanks. These are the people that wanna tell CCP how to balance the game, and what an interesting game we would have, spaceCod 2000 and fun. Not trying to tell CCP anything. Just want to rid New Eden of the infestation. So then a grab a forge and get to it. If you let scrubs in MLT tanks run all over you, they get paid while you get mad. If you refuse to blow them up because it takes some effort, then the infestation is your fault, not theirs. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Elmo Love U 514 Mile High Club 552	Posted - 2013.12.30 17:05:00 - [105] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: this is what, the 153rd or so complaint thread? congratulations you win the "pointless repetative statement thats been repeated more times then we can count" award for the day. nothing in this thread will be a new idea or statement, its a repeatt of a repeat of a reapeat etc etc etc...... quit posting uselss crap people, nobody wants to hear bitching and moaning anymore U sure came to read it. Ps.spam the forum,they will come. ChantsPVE PVE PVE PVE
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 159	Posted - 2013.12.30 17:11:00 - [106] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Kam Elto wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: Kam Elto wrote: Tankers are the cockroaches of New Eden. Blow them up or nerf them. I don't care as long as they are exterminated. HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrubs defending tanks are scrubs. The truth us 99% of all tank users have almost no impact on matches without tanks. These are the people that wanna tell CCP how to balance the game, and what an interesting game we would have, spaceCod 2000 and fun. Not trying to tell CCP anything. Just want to rid New Eden of the infestation. So then a grab a forge and get to it. If you let scrubs in MLT tanks run all over you, they get paid while you get mad. If you refuse to blow them up because it takes some effort, then the infestation is your fault, not theirs. I exterminate several everyday but they keep coming back.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1620	Posted - 2013.12.30 19:00:00 - [107] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Do any of you clown tankers ever think about why you have such high kdr? you cant defend against tanks and infantry effecticely at the same time.You have to choose one or the other. seeing how av is garbage 95% of the community just equips rifles. Who do you guys think you are kidding? The ones that camp in the redline have a high KDR. I don't camp in the redline, mine is a little below 3.0. I'm in the fight, trying to make a difference. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2835	Posted - 2013.12.30 19:03:00 - [108] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: So then a grab a forge and get to it. If you let scrubs in MLT tanks run all over you, they get paid while you get mad. If you refuse to blow them up because it takes some effort, then the infestation is your fault, not theirs. Oh Yes I Forgot. *FORGE MASTER RACE* ...
noob cavman Tickle My Null-Sac 333	Posted - 2013.12.30 19:04:00 - [109] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Do any of you clown tankers ever think about why you have such high kdr? you cant defend against tanks and infantry effecticely at the same time.You have to choose one or the other. seeing how av is garbage 95% of the community just equips rifles. Who do you guys think you are kidding? The ones that camp in the redline have a high KDR. I don't camp in the redline, mine is a little below 3.0. I'm in the fight, trying to make a difference. You can be arse on the forum's sometimes but always see you in the thick of it from both sides Hey mlt tank guess what my lav is ready and I GOT TWO TICKETS TO PARADISE!!! Renegade minja fighting for the empress
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1620	Posted - 2013.12.30 19:05:00 - [110] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: It's the obvious go to. You die less. nothing more to it than that. Many don't go into FPS games with the thought of "I'm never gonna have to shoot a gun with hands EVER in this game" Even those that went into dedicated HAV roles in PS2 or BF or Arma, warhark, unreal ext. They knew what they were playing, a fps game. But in those FPS games that avenue of abuse is closed, by how HAV and AV work. If the simple equation is Infantry=Infantry Hav> Infantry AV> Hav Then what happened? Are we going for RL equation? They really wouldn't want that! lol since in RL AV is close to OHK with tanks Ok, so FPS rules can't apply. RL rules can't apply. lol Man, there is no spinning this as to why this FPS game has troubles. or that 1.7 brought anyone back or kept anyone. But you see, in real life, tanks have countermeasures, and we can't be allowed to have those, right? Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway

Vakki Yuki DUST University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2013.12.30 20:20:00 - [111] - Quote Personally, all I've got to say is I see full tank squads decimating matches. 3 tanks, plausible for a decent character. 6 tanks is nothing short of one-sided. What should we do? Bring out 6 tanks of our own? Why not just make Dust a tank vs tank game? It's painfully obvious, 1.7 nerfed the practical anti-tank weapons. I've resorted to jumping on tanks and suicide bombing them with remote explosives and flux grenades. And sadly, it's far more effective than anything else I've seen from infantry. I would like to see a little practicality returned to the field. I don't want to see 6 tanks roll out onto our spawns and lock the map down. A handful of snipers to back up those tanks and suddenly you can't even get your forge gun off. I'm a fan of the plasma cannon, but it's bloddy useless against multiple tanks. I like the swarm, glad they nerfed it again, but the lock-on reticle is still atrocious. Give me a little more feedback. Give me the distance and speed of what I'm locking. Add a reticle that shows the process of locking, like two squares dialing in. As it stands now, the swarm is unpractical for unspecialized users, and sometimes hard to read. Most people just can't operate a forge gun effectively. Give me something to scare off a tank. Give me a laser cannon. Or tweak the plasma cannon. Give me more ways to deal with tanks. Allow players to get innovative so they'll quit complaining about this recent imbalance. Maybe let me jump on a tank and kill the person inside via grenade. Tanks would then have to be backed more by infantry. Just do something. Tanks are, without a doubt, slightly obnoxious now. Especially multiple tanks.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2840	Posted - 2013.12.30 20:26:00 - [112] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: But you see, in real life, tanks have countermeasures, and we can't be allowed to have those, right? Tanks in real life also don't have Large Blasters. So yeah you can have countermeasures. Just remove the Large Blaster Turret. ...
Mortedeamor 1154	Posted - 2013.12.30 20:26:00 - [113] - Quote lols why use suits when ccp gave us nice shiny op as hell tanks that cost next to nothing
TunRa Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 290	Posted - 2013.12.30 20:32:00 - [114] - Quote Whatever, I'm going back to my alt for some AT Tanking and will pop every tank that crosses my path. Thanks CCP Foxfour
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2840	Posted - 2013.12.30 20:32:00 - [115] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: No I expect half the comunity to pad its stats with tanks. That's practically all they've ever been used for. Even before 1.6. Says the guy that had to use AV to destroy tanks because he's such a bad tanker himself. Says the scrub who had to use tanks to destory tanks because he's such a bad AVer himself. If I was trying to use achieve an easier medium, why would I use AV? You "logic" would only work if I truly believed that tanks were harder to use than AV in 1.7. Which in all actuality, tanks were stupid easy to use in 1.6 and their even easier to use now. I guess logic isn't your strongsuit is it? ...
Valmorgan Aubaris Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services ACME Holding Conglomerate 81	Posted - 2013.12.30 21:02:00 - [116] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: this is what, the 153rd or so complaint thread? congratulations you win the "pointless repetative statement thats been repeated more times then we can count" award for the day. nothing in this thread will be a new idea or statement, its a repeatt of a repeat of a reapeat etc etc etc...... quit posting uselss crap people, nobody wants to hear bitching and moaning anymore Are you aware that you are repeating an argument yourself that has also been brought up numerous times?... In a game about spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, EVE alliance seeks mercs, join Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services today! Let's gank Scotty.
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 635	Posted - 2013.12.30 21:26:00 - [117] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. The only scrub here is you. If your soo good at the game then destroy all three tanks. Again they are the pros and your the scrub.
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 458	Posted - 2013.12.31 03:16:00 - [118] - Quote Al im saying is that there should be an age limit and kdr restriction. No one over 12 or with a positive kdr should be in a tank. Almost you rankers prolly rock skinny jeans and blast emo. Scrubs. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1447	Posted - 2013.12.31 03:31:00 - [119] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Surt gods end wrote: It's the obvious go to. You die less. nothing more to it than that. Many don't go into FPS games with the thought of "I'm never gonna have to shoot a gun with hands EVER in this game" Even those that went into dedicated HAV roles in PS2 or BF or Arma, warhark, unreal ext. They knew what they were playing, a fps game. But in those FPS games that avenue of abuse is closed, by how HAV and AV work. If the simple equation is Infantry=Infantry Hav> Infantry AV> Hav Then what happened? Are we going for RL equation? They really wouldn't want that! lol since in RL AV is close to OHK with tanks Ok, so FPS rules can't apply. RL rules can't apply. lol Man, there is no spinning this as to why this FPS game has troubles. or that 1.7 brought anyone back or kept anyone. But you see, in real life, tanks have countermeasures, and we can't be allowed to have those, right? see.. now we getting somewhere. counter measures I was all for. a warning sound to let you when you have been locked on. smoke screen to let you get away. or a hologram of your tank that kicks in the minute your locked on, so enemy has to think which one is you. But then you have to limit the hardners one can put on a tank. increase speed to lock weapons if current tank speed stays. or range of weapons. (but not to 1.6 level) if it's RE that's gonna be the new AV, then it needs a damage buff. You get the countermeasures, but without it helping you become more indestructible. AV is AV. No mater what conditions.
Scout Registry 185	Posted - 2013.12.31 03:53:00 - [120] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: AV is AV. No matter what conditions. I'm with you, Brother. Though there must've been a condition that we missed :-) Perhaps one of these fine folks can point it out for us. In the mean time, let's talk trade ... I'll give you my Lai Dais and Wiki Haha Proficiency for some of my 30M SP back. I really want to join Nyain San, but they said I need to skill into Tanks first.

Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1448	Posted - 2013.12.31 04:13:00 - [121] - Quote I'm not hard to get. Ladies? But seriously, I'm not oppose to compromise but within the setting that we find ourselves in. Because foremost, and always. I'm a FPS player first.
Zerus Ni'Kator Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 46	Posted - 2013.12.31 09:08:00 - [122] - Quote noob cavman wrote: I still miss chrome tanks they were the most fun to kill. Now its jist point yoir swarms in a direction and your bound hit a mlt hull. Btw moaners grab a sica with a rail and two damage mods, or the same but with a missile turret.... or just drive a lav like how I do Okay well how about this .. to kill a scout you have to use a scout suit otherwise you can't kill them .. how does that sound ? That's basically what your saying .. want to kill a tank .. jump in a tank AV = Anti Vehicle .. when none of your suggestions to kill Vehicles is AV then there is clearly a problem I'm not a Tanker .. I don't want to be a Tanker .. why do I have to become a Tanker just to play the game ? Where's the diversity ? Your basically forcing people to have to go into Tanking just because YOU decided to be a Tanker .. Honestly I'm tired of speaking to moronic Tankers ... your no different to all the people who defended the pre nerf flaylock pistols
Zerus Ni'Kator Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 46	Posted - 2013.12.31 09:15:00 - [123] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. So squad with a tanker. How about this .. Only scouts can hack anything .. thus forcing everyone to have to run with a scout in their squad Or no one can shoot their guns unless a logi is within 5m of them .. thus forcing everyone to have a logi in their squad Or only Assault suit users can actually kill people thus forcing everyone to have to squad with an assault suit user ...... ...... Your trying to force people to play in a particular way .. I cannot stand people who try and dictate how other people should play .. Tanks aren't balanced and no class or role on this game should ever be a necessity ...
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 672	Posted - 2013.12.31 13:42:00 - [124] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. Only 3 ?! That sounds like a fairy tale compared to what actually goes on...
The Attorney General 1717	Posted - 2013.12.31 14:03:00 - [125] - Quote Zerus Ni'Kator wrote: Your trying to force people to play in a particular way .. I cannot stand people who try and dictate how other people should play .. Tanks aren't balanced and no class or role on this game should ever be a necessity ... Every squad needs a pair of logis, a couple of slayers, a tank and AV. Combined arms have always been the best way. It is much more apparent who really understood that now. The only really optional roles are dropships, LAV's scouts and snipers. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.


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