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Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:14:00 - [91] - Quote Atiim wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: No I expect half the comunity to pad its stats with tanks. That's practically all they've ever been used for. Even before 1.6. Says the guy that had to use AV to destroy tanks because he's such a bad tanker himself. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix 614	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:20:00 - [92] - Quote Nobody else post anything; let's see how many pages Spkr can fill by himself by only quoting & responding to a single person in each post with only 1-3 sentences. CCP: Is it the most asinine way possible to do this? Yes. Then that's how we're doing it.
Jason Pearson 3690	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:20:00 - [93] - Quote Jaysus Spkr, you went loose xD King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire. Zaria for Miss Universe 2014
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 1828	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:29:00 - [94] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. So call 3 tanks. It's not like they are hard to use or expensive. In reality you are simply losing because you decided to. This works well enough in Skirmish. Domination is on the harder side. Ambush? No. Tanks are king of K/D. Half the time in Ambush, whoever gets the first rail tank on the ground wins because they can pop everything deploying, unless the enemy runs all the way to the redline. Even Domination and Skirmish on some maps are like this. How do I deal with enemy tanks coming in to pop me in a tank squad? I pop them as they deploy or use a better tank, since 90% of the enemy team can only use militia tanks. I won 12 matches in a row squadded with Nyain San yesterday on my alt. Mostly Ambush with some Skirmishes, most of us in tanks. I'm guessing all of the enemies just "decided" to lose when they were deploying their tanks, slowly, one by one, getting them all blown up on deployment or shortly afterwards? Good luck even getting to the red to deploy. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1604	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:31:00 - [95] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Nobody else post anything; let's see how many pages Spkr can fill by himself by only quoting & responding to a single person in each post with only 1-3 sentences. So I should post the way you want me to? Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Lorhak Gannarsein 943	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:38:00 - [96] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Nobody else post anything; let's see how many pages Spkr can fill by himself by only quoting & responding to a single person in each post with only 1-3 sentences. So I should post the way you want me to? Please. PRO tanker and proud. Lentarr Legionary.
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix 614	Posted - 2013.12.30 09:49:00 - [97] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Nobody else post anything; let's see how many pages Spkr can fill by himself by only quoting & responding to a single person in each post with only 1-3 sentences. So I should post the way you want me to? Well, it would be nice but I know how hard it is for you to not be annoying. Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Please. EDIT: holy sh*t. That's like twenty posts! What in the hell? Going for Forum Warrior (by post count) #1, I see. Don't actually have anything to say to you; I'm just demonstrating how this works for Spkr should he decide to use it. CCP: Is it the most asinine way possible to do this? Yes. Then that's how we're doing it.
Beld Errmon The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1199	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:02:00 - [98] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: There's a weak argument in a nutshell. Dedicated infantry doesn't want to take out AV to destroy tanks. They complain that they can't destroy tanks. They complain there's one tank on the field. They complain that AV got nerfed. Is there anything pertaining to vehicles you don't complain about? You see this is the problem, for every guy who has a genuine complaint about the AV vs tank balance there are five who just rabidly hate tanks and will +1 any argument that features the words tank and nerf, these people were around and saying the same things when tanks were terrible and easy to kill.
noob cavman Tickle My Null-Sac 330	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:18:00 - [99] - Quote I still miss chrome tanks they were the most fun to kill. Now its jist point yoir swarms in a direction and your bound hit a mlt hull. Btw moaners grab a sica with a rail and two damage mods, or the same but with a missile turret.... or just drive a lav like how I do Hey mlt tank guess what my lav is ready and I GOT TWO TICKETS TO PARADISE!!!
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 454	Posted - 2013.12.30 15:41:00 - [100] - Quote Do any of you clown tankers ever think about why you have such high kdr? you cant defend against tanks and infantry effecticely at the same time.You have to choose one or the other. seeing how av is garbage 95% of the community just equips rifles. Who do you guys think you are kidding? You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type

Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3187	Posted - 2013.12.30 16:26:00 - [101] - Quote Atiim wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: No I expect half the comunity to pad its stats with tanks. That's practically all they've ever been used for. Even before 1.6. That's your personal opinion... I personally use tanks because it's different from infantry and adds an other dimension to battle, I hate using the same thing as everyone else. Tank spam makes me sad as it just separates the infantry comunity from the vehicle community even more. Lack of content makes stuff broken... Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1444	Posted - 2013.12.30 16:48:00 - [102] - Quote It's the obvious go to. You die less. nothing more to it than that. Many don't go into FPS games with the thought of "I'm never gonna have to shoot a gun with hands EVER in this game" Even those that went into dedicated HAV roles in PS2 or BF or Arma, warhark, unreal ext. They knew what they were playing, a fps game. But in those FPS games that avenue of abuse is closed, by how HAV and AV work. If the simple equation is Infantry=Infantry Hav> Infantry AV> Hav Then what happened? Are we going for RL equation? They really wouldn't want that! lol since in RL AV is close to OHK with tanks Ok, so FPS rules can't apply. RL rules can't apply. lol Man, there is no spinning this as to why this FPS game has troubles. or that 1.7 brought anyone back or kept anyone.
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 159	Posted - 2013.12.30 16:51:00 - [103] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Kam Elto wrote: Tankers are the cockroaches of New Eden. Blow them up or nerf them. I don't care as long as they are exterminated. HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrubs defending tanks are scrubs. The truth us 99% of all tank users have almost no impact on matches without tanks. These are the people that wanna tell CCP how to balance the game, and what an interesting game we would have, spaceCod 2000 and fun. Not trying to tell CCP anything. Just want to rid New Eden of the infestation.
The Attorney General 1715	Posted - 2013.12.30 17:03:00 - [104] - Quote Kam Elto wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: Kam Elto wrote: Tankers are the cockroaches of New Eden. Blow them up or nerf them. I don't care as long as they are exterminated. HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrubs defending tanks are scrubs. The truth us 99% of all tank users have almost no impact on matches without tanks. These are the people that wanna tell CCP how to balance the game, and what an interesting game we would have, spaceCod 2000 and fun. Not trying to tell CCP anything. Just want to rid New Eden of the infestation. So then a grab a forge and get to it. If you let scrubs in MLT tanks run all over you, they get paid while you get mad. If you refuse to blow them up because it takes some effort, then the infestation is your fault, not theirs. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Elmo Love U 514 Mile High Club 552	Posted - 2013.12.30 17:05:00 - [105] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: this is what, the 153rd or so complaint thread? congratulations you win the "pointless repetative statement thats been repeated more times then we can count" award for the day. nothing in this thread will be a new idea or statement, its a repeatt of a repeat of a reapeat etc etc etc...... quit posting uselss crap people, nobody wants to hear bitching and moaning anymore U sure came to read it. Ps.spam the forum,they will come. ChantsPVE PVE PVE PVE
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 159	Posted - 2013.12.30 17:11:00 - [106] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Kam Elto wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: Kam Elto wrote: Tankers are the cockroaches of New Eden. Blow them up or nerf them. I don't care as long as they are exterminated. HYENAKILLER X wrote: Scrubs defending tanks are scrubs. The truth us 99% of all tank users have almost no impact on matches without tanks. These are the people that wanna tell CCP how to balance the game, and what an interesting game we would have, spaceCod 2000 and fun. Not trying to tell CCP anything. Just want to rid New Eden of the infestation. So then a grab a forge and get to it. If you let scrubs in MLT tanks run all over you, they get paid while you get mad. If you refuse to blow them up because it takes some effort, then the infestation is your fault, not theirs. I exterminate several everyday but they keep coming back.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1620	Posted - 2013.12.30 19:00:00 - [107] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Do any of you clown tankers ever think about why you have such high kdr? you cant defend against tanks and infantry effecticely at the same time.You have to choose one or the other. seeing how av is garbage 95% of the community just equips rifles. Who do you guys think you are kidding? The ones that camp in the redline have a high KDR. I don't camp in the redline, mine is a little below 3.0. I'm in the fight, trying to make a difference. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2835	Posted - 2013.12.30 19:03:00 - [108] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: So then a grab a forge and get to it. If you let scrubs in MLT tanks run all over you, they get paid while you get mad. If you refuse to blow them up because it takes some effort, then the infestation is your fault, not theirs. Oh Yes I Forgot. *FORGE MASTER RACE* ...
noob cavman Tickle My Null-Sac 333	Posted - 2013.12.30 19:04:00 - [109] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Do any of you clown tankers ever think about why you have such high kdr? you cant defend against tanks and infantry effecticely at the same time.You have to choose one or the other. seeing how av is garbage 95% of the community just equips rifles. Who do you guys think you are kidding? The ones that camp in the redline have a high KDR. I don't camp in the redline, mine is a little below 3.0. I'm in the fight, trying to make a difference. You can be arse on the forum's sometimes but always see you in the thick of it from both sides Hey mlt tank guess what my lav is ready and I GOT TWO TICKETS TO PARADISE!!! Renegade minja fighting for the empress
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1620	Posted - 2013.12.30 19:05:00 - [110] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: It's the obvious go to. You die less. nothing more to it than that. Many don't go into FPS games with the thought of "I'm never gonna have to shoot a gun with hands EVER in this game" Even those that went into dedicated HAV roles in PS2 or BF or Arma, warhark, unreal ext. They knew what they were playing, a fps game. But in those FPS games that avenue of abuse is closed, by how HAV and AV work. If the simple equation is Infantry=Infantry Hav> Infantry AV> Hav Then what happened? Are we going for RL equation? They really wouldn't want that! lol since in RL AV is close to OHK with tanks Ok, so FPS rules can't apply. RL rules can't apply. lol Man, there is no spinning this as to why this FPS game has troubles. or that 1.7 brought anyone back or kept anyone. But you see, in real life, tanks have countermeasures, and we can't be allowed to have those, right? Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway

Vakki Yuki DUST University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2013.12.30 20:20:00 - [111] - Quote Personally, all I've got to say is I see full tank squads decimating matches. 3 tanks, plausible for a decent character. 6 tanks is nothing short of one-sided. What should we do? Bring out 6 tanks of our own? Why not just make Dust a tank vs tank game? It's painfully obvious, 1.7 nerfed the practical anti-tank weapons. I've resorted to jumping on tanks and suicide bombing them with remote explosives and flux grenades. And sadly, it's far more effective than anything else I've seen from infantry. I would like to see a little practicality returned to the field. I don't want to see 6 tanks roll out onto our spawns and lock the map down. A handful of snipers to back up those tanks and suddenly you can't even get your forge gun off. I'm a fan of the plasma cannon, but it's bloddy useless against multiple tanks. I like the swarm, glad they nerfed it again, but the lock-on reticle is still atrocious. Give me a little more feedback. Give me the distance and speed of what I'm locking. Add a reticle that shows the process of locking, like two squares dialing in. As it stands now, the swarm is unpractical for unspecialized users, and sometimes hard to read. Most people just can't operate a forge gun effectively. Give me something to scare off a tank. Give me a laser cannon. Or tweak the plasma cannon. Give me more ways to deal with tanks. Allow players to get innovative so they'll quit complaining about this recent imbalance. Maybe let me jump on a tank and kill the person inside via grenade. Tanks would then have to be backed more by infantry. Just do something. Tanks are, without a doubt, slightly obnoxious now. Especially multiple tanks.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2840	Posted - 2013.12.30 20:26:00 - [112] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: But you see, in real life, tanks have countermeasures, and we can't be allowed to have those, right? Tanks in real life also don't have Large Blasters. So yeah you can have countermeasures. Just remove the Large Blaster Turret. ...
Mortedeamor 1154	Posted - 2013.12.30 20:26:00 - [113] - Quote lols why use suits when ccp gave us nice shiny op as hell tanks that cost next to nothing
TunRa Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 290	Posted - 2013.12.30 20:32:00 - [114] - Quote Whatever, I'm going back to my alt for some AT Tanking and will pop every tank that crosses my path. Thanks CCP Foxfour
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2840	Posted - 2013.12.30 20:32:00 - [115] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: No I expect half the comunity to pad its stats with tanks. That's practically all they've ever been used for. Even before 1.6. Says the guy that had to use AV to destroy tanks because he's such a bad tanker himself. Says the scrub who had to use tanks to destory tanks because he's such a bad AVer himself. If I was trying to use achieve an easier medium, why would I use AV? You "logic" would only work if I truly believed that tanks were harder to use than AV in 1.7. Which in all actuality, tanks were stupid easy to use in 1.6 and their even easier to use now. I guess logic isn't your strongsuit is it? ...
Valmorgan Aubaris Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services ACME Holding Conglomerate 81	Posted - 2013.12.30 21:02:00 - [116] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: this is what, the 153rd or so complaint thread? congratulations you win the "pointless repetative statement thats been repeated more times then we can count" award for the day. nothing in this thread will be a new idea or statement, its a repeatt of a repeat of a reapeat etc etc etc...... quit posting uselss crap people, nobody wants to hear bitching and moaning anymore Are you aware that you are repeating an argument yourself that has also been brought up numerous times?... In a game about spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, EVE alliance seeks mercs, join Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services today! Let's gank Scotty.
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 635	Posted - 2013.12.30 21:26:00 - [117] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Seriously, losing to scrubs because a team has 3 tanks on the feild is bad. The only scrub here is you. If your soo good at the game then destroy all three tanks. Again they are the pros and your the scrub.
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 458	Posted - 2013.12.31 03:16:00 - [118] - Quote Al im saying is that there should be an age limit and kdr restriction. No one over 12 or with a positive kdr should be in a tank. Almost you rankers prolly rock skinny jeans and blast emo. Scrubs. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1447	Posted - 2013.12.31 03:31:00 - [119] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Surt gods end wrote: It's the obvious go to. You die less. nothing more to it than that. Many don't go into FPS games with the thought of "I'm never gonna have to shoot a gun with hands EVER in this game" Even those that went into dedicated HAV roles in PS2 or BF or Arma, warhark, unreal ext. They knew what they were playing, a fps game. But in those FPS games that avenue of abuse is closed, by how HAV and AV work. If the simple equation is Infantry=Infantry Hav> Infantry AV> Hav Then what happened? Are we going for RL equation? They really wouldn't want that! lol since in RL AV is close to OHK with tanks Ok, so FPS rules can't apply. RL rules can't apply. lol Man, there is no spinning this as to why this FPS game has troubles. or that 1.7 brought anyone back or kept anyone. But you see, in real life, tanks have countermeasures, and we can't be allowed to have those, right? see.. now we getting somewhere. counter measures I was all for. a warning sound to let you when you have been locked on. smoke screen to let you get away. or a hologram of your tank that kicks in the minute your locked on, so enemy has to think which one is you. But then you have to limit the hardners one can put on a tank. increase speed to lock weapons if current tank speed stays. or range of weapons. (but not to 1.6 level) if it's RE that's gonna be the new AV, then it needs a damage buff. You get the countermeasures, but without it helping you become more indestructible. AV is AV. No mater what conditions.
Scout Registry 185	Posted - 2013.12.31 03:53:00 - [120] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: AV is AV. No matter what conditions. I'm with you, Brother. Though there must've been a condition that we missed :-) Perhaps one of these fine folks can point it out for us. In the mean time, let's talk trade ... I'll give you my Lai Dais and Wiki Haha Proficiency for some of my 30M SP back. I really want to join Nyain San, but they said I need to skill into Tanks first.



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